View Full Version : What makes all of you so sure Floyd will be on his Bike???
Biggame
07-30-2007, 10:55 AM
I keep reading post sfter post about how Floyd will run his way to a UD, or Floyd will fight in survival mode. I don't think Floyd will be anywhere except in front of Hatton, or giving him angles. You can best believe that Floyd will be putting alot behind his shots. This isn't just a fight for Floyd, it's personal, and he wants to make a statement! I don't think Floyd has any intentions on jut outboxing Hatton which he could rather easily, and prolly when all 12rds. He wants to punish Ricky, and he will from the moment that bell rings.
Alot of ppl on here used to say Hatton was/is the bigger stronger guy well I beg to differ w/the strength aspect. I think ppl make all pressure fighters out to be the extremely strong guys, and boxer movers out to be sorta weaker. It's a myth to me. I doubt Hatton is stronger than Floyd, and I doubt he hits harder. I'm almost possitve Floyd has stronger legs.
Heart? It's funny how Floyds heart is questioned and I'm curious as to why that is? Someone please ans that for me!! The guys fought w/injured ribs, an injured shoulder, multiple hand injuries, and has never bailed out of a fight or loss a fight:nono His will power, and determination are underestimated and you'll all find out what more he's made of in Dec. Hatton will come hard, and come strong, but Floyd will be waiting w/a bag full of Skill, Will, Speed, Determination, Power, and the ability to make Hatton look bad if he doesn't polish up! Oh yeah...and if you think Hatton will stop Floyd w/a body shot you're folling yourself. Hatton has a nice left hook to the body, but Floyd's never really been affected by them, but Hatton on the otherhand has, and Floyd is a very good body puncher. Hatton better find a way to protect his!!
I'm going w/Floyd by stoppage!!
sinosleep
07-30-2007, 11:00 AM
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah, the guy who was on his bike against Carlos friggen Baldomire is going to stand with Hatton? Not. In. A. Million. Years.
twenty1
07-30-2007, 11:03 AM
I keep reading post sfter post about how Floyd will run his way to a UD, or Floyd will fight in survival mode. I don't think Floyd will be anywhere except in front of Hatton, or giving him angles. You can best believe that Floyd will be putting alot behind his shots. This isn't just a fight for Floyd, it's personal, and he wants to make a statement! I don't think Floyd has any intentions on jut outboxing Hatton which he could rather easily, and prolly when all 12rds. He wants to punish Ricky, and he will from the moment that bell rings.
Alot of ppl on here used to say Hatton was/is the bigger stronger guy well I beg to differ w/the strength aspect. I think ppl make all pressure fighters out to be the extremely strong guys, and boxer movers out to be sorta weaker. It's a myth to me. I doubt Hatton is stronger than Floyd, and I doubt he hits harder. I'm almost possitve Floyd has stronger legs.
Heart? It's funny how Floyds heart is questioned and I'm curious as to why that is? Someone please ans that for me!! The guys fought w/injured ribs, an injured shoulder, multiple hand injuries, and has never bailed out of a fight or loss a fight:nono His will power, and determination are underestimated and you'll all find out what more he's made of in Dec. Hatton will come hard, and come strong, but Floyd will be waiting w/a bag full of Skill, Will, Speed, Determination, Power, and the ability to make Hatton look bad if he doesn't polish up! Oh yeah...and if you think Hatton will stop Floyd w/a body shot you're folling yourself. Hatton has a nice left hook to the body, but Floyd's never really been affected by them, but Hatton on the otherhand has, and Floyd is a very good body puncher. Hatton better find a way to protect his!!
I'm going w/Floyd by stoppage!!
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:good
twenty1
07-30-2007, 11:04 AM
I have to disagree with you on the part where u say that Floyd hits harder than Hatton. During the onslaught of Gatti, Floyd punched him about 45-50x clean in the face, and STILL couldnt drop Gatti. Hatton almost gave Castillo a kidney/liver extraction in the middle of the ring with 1 punch.
Man thats because Gatti is a punching bag..... he just keeps coming......fuck that
The Kurgan
07-30-2007, 11:05 AM
If Mayweather trades with Hatton, then he will lose. The best tactic for Mayweather is to unload with combinations, hold, get a quick break and then move. Repeat until the last 3 rounds, THEN do the Mayweather Marathon.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:10 AM
I have to disagree with you on the part where u say that Floyd hits harder than Hatton. During the onslaught of Gatti, Floyd punched him about 45-50x clean in the face, and STILL couldnt drop Gatti. Hatton almost gave Castillo a kidney/liver extraction in the middle of the ring with 1 punch.
I believe Hatton is a much harder body puncher, but to the dome, I disagree w/you. His left hook is awesome to the body, but outside of that he seems to have alright power. BTW...Castillo was old, and shot! Against Gatti Floyd hit Gatti alot, but he never really threw one planted solid shot. Even when he hit Gatti and he went down he didn't plant but he only intended on throwing one shot. If you ask me They have simular power, but Mayweather is much more accurate! Hatton's record makes him look as if he has real good power, but that's decieving once you look at the opponents on his record!
Btw...Hatton hit Zoo w/several hard body, and head shots, and never dropped him so that can go both ways, and it's not like Zoo don't go down!!
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:14 AM
The only way that happens it is if PBF hits Hatton with a piece of 4x4 before they go into the ring. PBF couldnt Knockdown Gatti...LMAO...And you think he is going to KO Hatton....No Fokin Way Jose!!!!!!!
PBF is going to fight safe as always....
Comical!!
You guys act like Hatton has this iron chin!! Hatton will be taking massive punishment, and he won't even see half the punches coming. He'll not go down once, but a couple times. Floyd has a better chin, and a tighter defense.
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 11:14 AM
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah, the guy who was on his bike against Carlos friggen Baldomire is going to stand with Hatton? Not. In. A. Million. Years.
Did you see the Baldo-Fight this weekend? Baldo's chin is iron Forrest couldn't stop him from coming at him and he can crack. No way in hell was PBF going to be able to hurt or KO Baldo. PBF's gameplan against Baldo couldn't have been better.
The funny thing about it is people act as if Hatton is a murderous puncher when he's clearly not. PBF has faced bigger punchers in Chico, Zab and Oscar and wasn't fazed, Hatton will be no different.
I agree with Biggame this is personal and PBF has wanted to beat down Hatton for a long time. PBF by wide UD or TKO.:deal
sinosleep
07-30-2007, 11:15 AM
Which is why he ran, ALL NIGHT LONG against Baldo?
grayggr
07-30-2007, 11:15 AM
I believe Hatton is a much harder body puncher, but to the dome, I disagree w/you. His left hook is awesome to the body, but outside of that he seems to have alright power. BTW...Castillo was old, and shot! Against Gatti Floyd hit Gatti alot, but he never really threw one planted solid shot. Even when he hit Gatti and he went down he didn't plant but he only intended on throwing one shot. If you ask me They have simular power, but Mayweather is much more accurate! Hatton's record makes him look as if he has real good power, but that's decieving once you look at the opponents on his record!
Btw...Hatton hit Zoo w/several hard body, and head shots, and never dropped him so that can go both ways, and it's not like Zoo don't go down!!
Castillo was old and shot.
Gatti must have been young and fresh against floyd then???
hotboy18
07-30-2007, 11:16 AM
If Mayweather continues to utilize his jab and keep moving then Hatton will not be a problem for him. Mayweather is a very fast boxer and can see the punches coming to move out the way.
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 11:17 AM
Which is why he ran, ALL NIGHT LONG against Baldo?
Did you not read my post?:patsch Baldo out weighed PBF by 14 pounds on fight night.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:19 AM
Gatti is indeed a punching bag, but he was Floored by Baldomir with just a few punches, and by that last guy he fought with just 1 punch.
Floyd beat any bit of a jaw and will Gatti had left out of him! Also if Gatti had lasted as long w/Floyd as he did w/Baldo he'd not only get dropped a couple times and stopped brutally, but he'd probably be brain dead!!
sinosleep
07-30-2007, 11:20 AM
Actually no, we posted at the same time. That was in reply to the other dude. The Gatti fight was the last time Floyed stood with anyone. At this point I wouldn't be confident of him standing in front of a paper bag.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:22 AM
Castillo was old and shot.
Gatti must have been young and fresh against floyd then???
Never said Gatti was, but he certainly didn't look like Castillo did in his last fight, and as a matter of fact his career was revived, and on the upside!
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:25 AM
Actually no, we posted at the same time. That was in reply to the other dude. The Gatti fight was the last time Floyed stood with anyone. At this point I wouldn't be confident of him standing in front of a paper bag.
You don't watch much boxing do you?
Floyd walked down Judah, and Mitchell in his next two fights. He didn't start moving against Baldo til he hurt his hand, and against Oscar he picked his spots. You don't make a guy stop throwing punches, and start backing up if you're backing up too!!
sinosleep
07-30-2007, 11:27 AM
EH the DLH was boring as hell as was the Baldo fight. You're right on Judah though, he did actually fight him.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:27 AM
Biggame, i know you did not just say that Gatti looked better against Floyd, than Castillo did against Hatton. Please tell me u are only kidding. Gatti practically used his face to block the punches.
Please tell me you comprehend better than that!!
Hatton isn't big enough to make Floyd run. He'll be right there in the pocket all night long.
nickthegreek
07-30-2007, 11:31 AM
Comical!!
You guys act like Hatton has this iron chin!! Hatton will be taking massive punishment, and he won't even see half the punches coming. He'll not go down once, but a couple times. Floyd has a better chin, and a tighter defense.
If he could take Tsyzu best shots all night on his way in he sure won't be bothered about what Mayweather will be throwing at him.
As for an answer to the original question, he has ran and potshotted his way to victory in at least his last 3 fights, what makes you think he won't do it this time?
Im not a Mayweather hater before you come back with that, i actually respect his skills and think he's the finest pure boxer in my lifetime. I just don't like the way he goes about his buisness in the ring at times.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:33 AM
Biggame, i know you did not just say that Gatti looked better against Floyd, than Castillo did against Hatton. Please tell me u are only kidding. Gatti practically used his face to block the punches. Just because Hatton floored Castillo with a devestating body shot, doesnt mean that Castillo was shot!
Why don't you watch Castillo last two fights, and tell me how he looked! He looked the same. Slow, stagnent, not getting off, and not the fighter he once was. Anyone who watched Castillo fights know that cstillo is much more aggressive, a bully, more skilled, and polished! He looked like shit earlier this year!
Gatti career was on the upside going into to fight w/Floyd. He changed his style up some, and he was winning easily stopping his last 2 opponents including one w/a body shot!
MancMexican
07-30-2007, 11:39 AM
Every Floyd fan thinks its going to be an easy night's work. What are they going to say if it isnt so easy?
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:45 AM
If he could take Tsyzu best shots all night on his way in he sure won't be bothered about what Mayweather will be throwing at him.
As for an answer to the original question, he has ran and potshotted his way to victory in at least his last 3 fights, what makes you think he won't do it this time?
Im not a Mayweather hater before you come back with that, i actually respect his skills and think he's the finest pure boxer in my lifetime. I just don't like the way he goes about his buisness in the ring at times.
Correction...he moved more against his last two opponents, Judah being the other he walked down!! Hatton doesn't have the size or chin of Oscar or Baldo so Floyd won't be anywhere near as cautious:nono
Hatton did a very smart thing when he fought Zoo. He smoothered his punches, and he held like a motherfucker!! Floyd won't be there to hold like that, and he won't be able to smoother his punches. He'll be getting hit w/clean hard shot the minute the bell rings. Counter will be Hatton's worse nightmare. If you really think Hatton will walk thru Mayweathers shots ask Oscar was it easy, and ask Gatti. These are two guys ppl claimed could hurt Floyd, and the only ppl who ended up hurt were those two!!
I only dream that's Hatton's plan!!
The Kurgan
07-30-2007, 11:46 AM
Every Floyd fan thinks its going to be an easy night's work. What are they going to say if it isnt so easy?
- Floyd was old.
- 147 just isn't his weight.
- Hatton is too dirty.
- REALLY, Floyd won/had an easy night.
nickthegreek
07-30-2007, 11:48 AM
Correction...he moved more against his last two opponents, Judah being the other he walked down!! Hatton doesn't have the size or chin of Oscar or Baldo so Floyd won't be anywhere near as cautious:nono
Hatton did a very smart thing when he fought Zoo. He smoothered his punches, and he held like a motherfucker!! Floyd won't be there to hold like that, and he won't be able to smoother his punches. He'll be getting hit w/clean hard shot the minute the bell rings. Counter will be Hatton's worse nightmare. If you really think Hatton will walk thru Mayweathers shots ask Oscar was it easy, and ask Gatti. These are two guys ppl claimed could hurt Floyd, and the only ppl who ended up hurt were those two!!
I only dream that's Hatton's plan!!
Not going to bother getting into another PBF/Hatton argument as its been done about 1274556353494949473562728203 times.
We will all hopefully find out soon enough :good
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:51 AM
This is what u wrote: Never said Gatti was, but he certainly didn't look like Castillo did in his last fight, and as a matter of fact his career was revived, and on the upside!
I myself, and anybody who has a 3rd grade reading level would tell you that your implying that Gatti looked better than Castillo during the fights mentioned.
You should keep up then. I was implying Castillo was shot going into the fight w/Hatton, and Gatti on the otherhand was on the upside, and was winning easily going into the fight against Floyd!! Hence the quote. Comprehend the whole quote and you(well hopefully you) and anyone w/a 3rd grade reading level will see that I'm talking about fights leading up to there most recent fights!!
Is that simpler!!
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:52 AM
Not going to bother getting into another PBF/Hatton argument as its been done about 1274556353494949473562728203 times.
We will all hopefully find out soon enough :good
No doubt!!:good
Biggame
07-30-2007, 11:56 AM
I honestly think Hatton is just to "tuff and rough" for Floyd. As Hatton once said: I've had steaks that were tougher than Floyd" :rofl
Meaning - Someone can't cook, and he needs to find a new resturaunt!!
He'll change is tune after Dec.!!!
Biggame
07-30-2007, 12:00 PM
um no, Gatti picked up a vacant belt fighting a european fighter..
and not too long before had lost to mickey ward
Who said he didn't:huh
And I guess you're a little slow today too. I stated that Gatti looked alot better going into his fight w/Floyd than Castillo did going into his w/Hatton or did you skip that part?
New subject!!!
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 12:32 PM
Correction...he moved more against his last two opponents, Judah being the other he walked down!! Hatton doesn't have the size or chin of Oscar or Baldo so Floyd won't be anywhere near as cautious:nono
Hatton did a very smart thing when he fought Zoo. He smoothered his punches, and he held like a motherfucker!! Floyd won't be there to hold like that, and he won't be able to smoother his punches. He'll be getting hit w/clean hard shot the minute the bell rings. Counter will be Hatton's worse nightmare. If you really think Hatton will walk thru Mayweathers shots ask Oscar was it easy, and ask Gatti. These are two guys ppl claimed could hurt Floyd, and the only ppl who ended up hurt were those two!!
I only dream that's Hatton's plan!!
Exactly PBF has underrated power. At first it might not hurt but after about the sixth round of being countered you start to feel it, just ask Oscar who was scared to let his hands go in the middle of the ring because he knew he would pay.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 12:37 PM
Exactly PBF has underrated power. At first it might not hurt but after about the sixth round of being countered you start to feel it, just ask Oscar who was scared to let his hands go in the middle of the ring because he knew he would pay.
Floyd like to get into a rhythm, and he figures out all aspects of his opponent before he starts adding more pop to his punches! Haton will have about 3rds tops before he starts feeling some hard crisp punches, and if he makes it to easy he'll start to suffer as soon as the bell rings! Hatton's not going to be able to smoother Floyd, nor play homo all night!:nono Once Floyd gets his timing together it's a rap!!
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 12:45 PM
Floyd like to get into a rhythm, and he figures out all aspects of his opponent before he starts adding more pop to his punches! Haton will have about 3rds tops before he starts feeling some hard crisp punches, and if he makes it to easy he'll start to suffer as soon as the bell rings! Hatton's not going to be able to smoother Floyd, nor play homo all night!:nono Once Floyd gets his timing together it's a rap!!
Yep and Oscar has good defense. What will the no defense Hatton do around the 6th round when he's being countered and beaten to the punch? No one has been able to really answer this. How will hatton cope?
Biggame
07-30-2007, 12:47 PM
looked better?
:lol:
were talking about friggin Gatti :lol:
NEW SUBJECT!
Did you have a point:huh
Biggame
07-30-2007, 12:49 PM
Yep and Oscar has good defense. What will the no defense Hatton do around the 6th round when he's being countered and beaten to the punch? No one has been able to really answer this. How will hatton cope?
There claim is hasn't goes all out for 12rds, well w/that defense I'm sure Floyd will welcome it, and bring it all to a screeching halt by the middle rds, and what's Hatton's plan B gonna be...survive the fight like he did against Collazo, and Urango!!!
Floyd won't let him!!!:nono
Biggame
07-30-2007, 12:59 PM
yes, Hatton gets more cred for stopping a guy that Floyd lost to, THAN Floyd get's credit foe beating someone Mickey Ward beat
You're pathetic:patsch
So in that case Phillips gets more credit than Hatton cause he beat a prime Zoo correct? Oh yeah, and Floyd never lost to Castillo and he beat him in his prime!!
Who has Hatton beaten(top tier) that was prime? :huh
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 12:59 PM
yes, Hatton gets more cred for stopping a guy that Floyd lost to, THAN Floyd get's credit foe beating someone Mickey Ward beat
Lost to? I could have sworn PBF's record was 38-0.:think
Olu G. Rotimi
07-30-2007, 01:03 PM
PBF does not have to run against Hattoon he can stay in the pocket all night long and hurt Hatton, making him miss and making him pay through the middle. Hatton's asked for it now he is going to get it. People who are making comparison with the PBF vs ODLH fight are way off base. PBF will stop Hatton inside 8-9rounds either by knockout or the referee stopping the bleedy Hatton from taking on any more punishment. The Hitman will become the Hit Me Man.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 01:06 PM
PBF does not have to run against Hattoon he can stay in the pocket all night long and hurt Hatton, making him miss and making him pay through the middle. Hatton's asked for it now he is going to get it. People who are making comparison with the PBF vs ODLH fight are way off base. PBF will stop Hatton inside 8-9rounds either by knockout or the referee stopping the bleedy Hatton from taking on any more punishment. The Hitman will become the Hit Me Man.
That'z what I'm talking bout!!:good
grayggr
07-30-2007, 01:07 PM
There claim is hasn't goes all out for 12rds, well w/that defense I'm sure Floyd will welcome it, and bring it all to a screeching halt by the middle rds, and what's Hatton's plan B gonna be...survive the fight like he did against Collazo, and Urango!!!
Floyd won't let him!!!:nono
Hatton survived v Urango???................ man I dont mind balanced stuff but this is way off base. Hatton was hurt by a body blow by Urango in the fight that is clear. His pace dramatically drifted off throughout the last quarter...admittedly, but he was a class above Urango. Anytime any remote flaw is picked up on from Hatton's game it gets over exagerated 10 fold. There was no element of survival to it.
119 - 109 on all the judges scorecards. Not a bad way to survive.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 01:16 PM
Hatton survived v Urango???................ man I dont mind balanced stuff but this is way off base. Hatton was hurt by a body blow by Urango in the fight that is clear. His pace dramatically drifted off throughout the last quarter...admittedly, but he was a class above Urango. Anytime any remote flaw is picked up on from Hatton's game it gets over exagerated 10 fold. There was no element of survival to it.
119 - 109 on all the judges scorecards. Not a bad way to survive.
Ok,...Let's knock it down to Hatton stopped fighting and held the rest of the fight! Not much difference:nono When you're jumping in and holding and most of the time it's w/out even throwing a punch you're just trying to survive. I never said Hatton was ever hurt after that body blow, but he sure stopped fighting much after that, and held the rest of the way!!
He may have won by that large Margin, but it was because Urango wasn't shit, should not have been there, and he was trying to do much fighting himself!!
grayggr
07-30-2007, 01:22 PM
Ok,...Let's knock it down to Hatton stopped fighting and held the rest of the fight! Not much difference:nono When you're jumping in and holding and most of the time it's w/out even throwing a punch you're just trying to survive. I never said Hatton was ever hurt after that body blow, but he sure stopped fighting much after that, and held the rest of the way!!
He may have won by that large Margin, but it was because Urango wasn't shit, should not have been there, and he was trying to do much fighting himself!!
I agree Urango was not in Hatton's class. I was merely pointing out he didn't survive in that bout. I accept the last round v Collazo that Ricky was holding for dear life, but certainly not v Urango.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 01:24 PM
I agree Urango was not in Hatton's class. I was merely pointing out he didn't survive in that bout. I accept the last round v Collazo that Ricky was holding for dear life, but certainly not v Urango.
He wasn't holding on for dear life against Urango, but he held enough to give them both arm, and chest burns!! Ppl in the nose bleed seat thoght they were fucking!!!
:yep
grayggr
07-30-2007, 01:26 PM
Yep and Oscar has good defense. What will the no defense Hatton do around the 6th round when he's being countered and beaten to the punch? No one has been able to really answer this. How will hatton cope?
No one states Hatton will not get hit. In fact it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that he does get hit. It will happen it is inevitable. Ricky's defence is offence, he will walk through punches to get to his man. He will be countered all night make no bones about it. But he WILL keep coming, and he will let his hands go and connect.
grayggr
07-30-2007, 01:30 PM
He wasn't holding on for dear life against Urango, but he held enough to give them both arm, and chest burns!! Ppl in the nose bleed seat thoght they were fucking!!!
:yep
He's an inside fighter. That's what happens, clinches, holding, short hooks to the body, uppercuts. It's not Ballet in there, Hatton will hold PBF, that is clear. He will also hook to the body, uppercut, all night. He remains active, that's why even though he looked bad vs Collazo he still put points on the board, because he's aggressive and active, even in the clinches. You may not like his style but the lad never takes a backward step in the ring, and all credit to him for that.
FlatNose
07-30-2007, 01:33 PM
I've seen wishful thinking before, but anyone even dreaming that Hatton can beat Mayweather should wake up and apologize.Not to say Hatton is soft, or even denying that Rick is one of the best in the world.But Mayweather is a rare talent who works his ass off to be excellent.And he is.Floyd is also a classless thug, with a third world mentality, but he's the best..by far.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 01:35 PM
He's an inside fighter. That's what happens, clinches, holding, short hooks to the body, uppercuts. It's not Ballet in there, Hatton will hold PBF, that is clear. He will also hook to the body, uppercut, all night. He remains active, that's why even though he looked bad vs Collazo he still put points on the board, because he's aggressive and active, even in the clinches. You may not like his style but the lad never takes a backward step in the ring, and all credit to him for that.
My point is he wasn't even throwing punches. He might hold and hit, but he wasn't throwing much of anything, and dumb ass Urango just looked happy to be there. He wasn't doing shit either!!
Hatton will try to hold Mayweather, and but he'll soon enough find out what in pocket fighting really is, and he'll find out that Floyd indeed is physically strong!! Hatton is going to have to find a different way to win, and well sadly,.. all those other ways works in Floyd favor!!
Biggame
07-30-2007, 01:38 PM
I've seen wishful thinking before, but anyone even dreaming that Hatton can beat Mayweather should wake up and apologize.Not to say Hatton is soft, or even denying that Rick is one of the best in the world.But Mayweather is a rare talent who works his ass off to be excellent.And he is.Floyd is also a classless thug, with a third world mentality, but he's the best..by far.
:patsch
What even makes Floyd a thug, and pls describe this 3rd world mentality for us!!
Shotgun
07-30-2007, 01:41 PM
I doubt Hatton is stronger than Floyd, and I doubt he hits harder
Show me where Floyd ever hit anyone decent this hard
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EL BULLY
07-30-2007, 01:47 PM
Because he's a pussy.
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 01:52 PM
Because he's a pussy.
He's a pussy huh? What will be your excuse when he gives ricky a boxing lesson in Dec?
Biggame
07-30-2007, 01:52 PM
I already stated that Hatton is the harder body puncher so what your point?
Floyd has a wicked body attack of his own, and w/more variety than Hatton's! He beat Judah into low blowing him, stopped fighters w/them including Mitchell. He also Buckled Oscar something lovely w/one in the 11th rd. Gatti still has blood shot skin around his torso from Floyd!!
the_what
07-30-2007, 01:54 PM
I dont think Hatton will allow him to get on his bike.
Shotgun
07-30-2007, 01:55 PM
I already stated that Hatton is the harder body puncher so what your point?
Show me where Mayweather ever hit someone with a head shot as hard as that left hook Hatton hit Maussa with. Maussa has a very durable chin and he crumpled like he got shot. I've never seen Mayweather hit anyone that hard
So my point is that if you say "I doubt Hatton hits harder" to provide some sort of evidence that can hit someone with the force that Hatton hit Maussa with
EL BULLY
07-30-2007, 01:57 PM
He's a pussy huh? What will be your excuse when he gives ricky a boxing lesson in Dec?
Should have been at 140
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 02:02 PM
Should have been at 140
And it should have. If Hatton wasn't such a pussy and didn't turn PBF down and signed the fight back in 05 while PBF was still there.:hi:
EL BULLY
07-30-2007, 02:05 PM
And it should have. If Hatton wasn't such a pussy and didn't turn PBF down and signed the fight back in 05 while PBF was still there.:hi:
Bigger fight now, more exposure = more money, and we all know how that classless piece of shit Floyd likes money. Probably a business decision agreed by both camps at the time. PBF could make 140 easy, so why wont he???
Because he's a pussy.:good
Biggame
07-30-2007, 02:09 PM
Show me where Mayweather ever hit someone with a head shot as hard as that left hook Hatton hit Maussa with. Maussa has a very durable chin and he crumpled like he got shot. I've never seen Mayweather hit anyone that hard
So my point is that if you say "I doubt Hatton hits harder" to provide some sort of evidence that can hit someone with the force that Hatton hit Maussa with
You're talking one fight and were talking a bum! Does Hatton do that on a regular bases? Neither one has one punch power! I doubt Hatton hits harder, and you really need to check the quality of his opponents before you brag on his power!!
Biggame
07-30-2007, 02:10 PM
Floyd wanted GATTI not Hatton..:rofl
Actually he wanted Hatton or Zoo for his 1st fight at 140lbs!!
warrior85
07-30-2007, 02:11 PM
um bcoz thats how hes fought every fight
Imperial1
07-30-2007, 02:12 PM
I'm sure Floyd wins this fight in spectaculr boring ass fashion !!
Then he will talk like he brutalized him ..I was excited about this fight along time ago and then I saw Floyd's lackluster performances against Baldi and Oscar ..If this fight is going to happen the least they can do is put it on HBO ..We shouldn't be made to pay to see an extra extra cautious loud mouth win another boring ass decision !
Biggame
07-30-2007, 02:13 PM
um bcoz thats how hes fought every fight
Fake fan alert!!!!
You can't watch two boxing matches and call a guy a runner! It's so funny that you guys are sincere when you say that!!
Biggame
07-30-2007, 02:13 PM
:rofl
You're still here:huh
Shotgun
07-30-2007, 02:15 PM
You're talking one fight and were talking a bum! Does Hatton do that on a regular bases? Neither one has one punch power! I doubt Hatton hits harder, and you really need to check the quality of his opponents before you brag on his power!!
Maussa is not a bum. He's a journeyman/gatekeeper, but not a bum, and has a very sturdy chin. There's plenty of guys who are journeyman/gatekeepers that have great chins. Destroying a guy with a chin as solid as Maussa's with one punch is an impressive display of punching power. The only reason you're downplaying it is that Floyd has never dropped anyone with a decent chin as brutally or convincingly as Hatton did to Maussa
kg0208
07-30-2007, 02:18 PM
Hatton hits harder IMO, but I don't think that will effect the outcome of the fight much. I would guess that Castillo hit harder in his prime when he fought PBF than Hatton does now.
I do have to ask though, when was the last time Hatton beat a great technical boxer? Has he ever faced one? I never saw Hatton until the KT fight.
PBF has never ran from anyone in the ring...he uses angles, and darts in and out against bigger stronger opponents...but no way PBF will stop Hatton unless it's on cuts...Tszyu hits miles harder than PBF and Hatton took his shots so PBF ain't gonna do it...but i'd like to see him try...
Hatton hits harder IMO, but I don't think that will effect the outcome of the fight much. I would guess that Castillo hit harder in his prime when he fought PBF than Hatton does now.
I do have to ask though, when was the last time Hatton beat a great technical boxer? Has he ever faced one? I never saw Hatton until the KT fight.
Tszyu is a great boxer/puncher but he didn't use his jab against Hatton and decided he was gonna KO Hatton with one punch...that strategy obviously was flawed...
Biggame
07-30-2007, 02:30 PM
Maussa is not a bum. He's a journeyman/gatekeeper, but not a bum, and has a very sturdy chin. There's plenty of guys who are journeyman/gatekeepers that have great chins. Destroying a guy with a chin as solid as Maussa's with one punch is an impressive display of punching power. The only reason you're downplaying it is that Floyd has never dropped anyone with a decent chin as brutally or convincingly as Hatton did to Maussa
Unlike you I could careless who dropped who w/one punch or not. He destroyed Maussa, but couldn't put away Zoo, who he hit w/tons and tons of shots, and according to you Maussa has a sturdy Chin. Zoo doesn't so again what's your point. Everyone has a devastating KO or two on there resume! BTW Maussa is a BUM!!
Again you're talking about 1 fight against a bum, and one against a shot fighter. You think Hatton hits harder, I think Floyd does or just as hard. Fight night we'll see how much a body shot against Castillo, and a left hook against Maussa matters since you're staking everything on that!! Watch who get's hurt and stopped! Floyd's been hit by harder punchers and Hatton won't hurt him!!
Biggame
07-30-2007, 02:33 PM
Hatton hits harder IMO, but I don't think that will effect the outcome of the fight much. I would guess that Castillo hit harder in his prime when he fought PBF than Hatton does now.
I do have to ask though, when was the last time Hatton beat a great technical boxer? Has he ever faced one? I never saw Hatton until the KT fight.
He never has, he was giving a gift against a semi fast slick southpaw in Collazo, but that's the closest he's ever come to fighting a technical boxer. Hatton camp has always steered him clear of fighters like that right Hatton fans!!!
ron u.k.
07-30-2007, 02:41 PM
nothing is set in stone in this one.some think hatton is one dimensional and is going to get a gattiesque beating but they should know there's much more to him than that.others have mayweather simply running and jabbing his way to a boring ud but they should certainly know there's much more ways for him to win than that.hatton's footwork coming in at angles for him to get where he wants to be,with his head on floyds chest shouldn't be underestimated,but also mayweathers no slouch on the inside,and also the way he leans back and to the side looking over his left shoulder will mean hatton will find it hard to unload his favourite left hook to the liver.hatton will almost certainly try to bully mayweather in all sorts of ways if he can get up close, he will try to fight a dirty fight,floyd did look uncomfortable in the first half of the de la hoya fight when backed up on the ropes.on the other hand i think certainly upstairs mayweather hits harder, he certainly hurt de la hoya a couple of times,and it's not inconceivable that he could knock hatton out.mayweather should win this but hatton should not be underestimated.graham will have studied hundreds of hours of tapes of floyd and will have a gameplan, and hatton when the bit is between his teeth is a determined and relentless sob.
Shotgun
07-30-2007, 02:45 PM
according to you Maussa has a sturdy Chin. Zoo doesn't
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
Tsyzu doesn't have a sturdy chin? He's eaten a lot of bombs over his career from good punchers, and both times he was stopped were due to fatigue and accumulation and he wasn't "knocked out" for a count either time
Your logic that he wasn't able to put away Tszyu is really dumb. He stopped him didn't he? He's one of only two people to do that. The only other person who stopped him did so by landing a barrage of 9 or 10 clean punches that ended with an exhausted Tszyu trapped against the ropes and stopped on his feet
Tszyu may not of the chin of JCC but to say he doesn't have a sturdy chin is just pure ignorance
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 02:52 PM
Bigger fight now, more exposure = more money, and we all know how that classless piece of shit Floyd likes money. Probably a business decision agreed by both camps at the time. PBF could make 140 easy, so why wont he???
Because he's a pussy.:good
So he wasn't a pussy for wanting the fight back in 2005 when he was at 140 but he is now because he wants the fight at 147 and he hasn't fought at 140 in two years?:patsch
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 02:54 PM
Hatton could win via KO, and the Floydboys would say that Floyd was winning/would've won if not for the KO! :-(
And PBF could put on a clinic outboxing Hatton for 12 rounds and the haters would say he ran from Hatton all night.:-( Just like they did when he outboxed Oscar.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 03:12 PM
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
Tsyzu doesn't have a sturdy chin? He's eaten a lot of bombs over his career from good punchers, and both times he was stopped were due to fatigue and accumulation and he wasn't "knocked out" for a count either time
Your logic that he wasn't able to put away Tszyu is really dumb. He stopped him didn't he? He's one of only two people to do that. The only other person who stopped him did so by landing a barrage of 9 or 10 clean punches that ended with an exhausted Tszyu trapped against the ropes and stopped on his feet
Tszyu may not of the chin of JCC but to say he doesn't have a sturdy chin is just pure ignorance
Still on this subject? I guess you don't have much else to say, but you're boy Zoo, and Maussa both hit the canvas a few times in there careers. Floyd not once, nor was he evry hurt. Hatton:rofl :rofl :rofl we already know about him!!
What's your take on the two fighters?
TheGreat
07-30-2007, 03:16 PM
Hatton in terms of size, strength, one punch power and defense is not ODLH so PBF will be able to stand in the pocket more and I expect him to tee off at some point and stop Hatton thats right I said it PBF will KO Hatton in December. PBF vs SSM, Cotto or even PW would be a beter fight than this.
Shotgun
07-30-2007, 03:21 PM
Still on this subject? I guess you don't have much else to say, but you're boy Zoo, and Maussa both hit the canvas a few times in there careers
Absolutely still on the subject. Because you continue to make ignorant statements which hurts the credibility of every point you're attempting to make
Statements such as hitting the canvas or getting hurt at any point during your career equals having unsturdy chin, saying Hatton doesn't hit harder than Floyd despite evidence to the contrary existing, sayin Hatton wasn't able to "get Tszyu out of there" even though he stopped him, saying Mayweather has never been down or hurt (both false). This nonstop stream of nonsense flowing through your posts makes it hard to take anything you say seriously, and I'm just trying to verify that you actually believe what you're saying
Alo2006
07-30-2007, 03:41 PM
The only way that happens it is if PBF hits Hatton with a piece of 4x4 before they go into the ring. PBF couldnt Knockdown Gatti...LMAO...And you think he is going to KO Hatton....No Fokin Way Jose!!!!!!!
PBF is going to fight safe as always....
So u thing Hatton has a better chin then Gatti :lol: that's a negative.
TroubleLurks
07-30-2007, 03:45 PM
Mosley KO1
mancat
07-30-2007, 04:11 PM
Bigger fight now, more exposure = more money, and we all know how that classless piece of shit Floyd likes money. Probably a business decision agreed by both camps at the time. PBF could make 140 easy, so why wont he???
Because he's a pussy.:good
So, you acknowledge Hatton loses at 147 and already have an excuse handy. "It should have been at 140". You sir, are the PUSSAAAY.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 04:46 PM
Absolutely still on the subject. Because you continue to make ignorant statements which hurts the credibility of every point you're attempting to make
Statements such as hitting the canvas or getting hurt at any point during your career equals having unsturdy chin, saying Hatton doesn't hit harder than Floyd despite evidence to the contrary existing, sayin Hatton wasn't able to "get Tszyu out of there" even though he stopped him, saying Mayweather has never been down or hurt (both false). This nonstop stream of nonsense flowing through your posts makes it hard to take anything you say seriously, and I'm just trying to verify that you actually believe what you're saying
I wouldn't call that evidence..it's called an opinion!! It's not that steep buddy. There's other things to talk about and you should never talk about ignorance or credibility:nono It's comical that's you're so into this, but at no pont have you giving your take on the fight:nono
What's the problem...you don't have one!!
The Kurgan
07-30-2007, 04:59 PM
Yep and Oscar has good defense. What will the no defense Hatton do around the 6th round when he's being countered and beaten to the punch? No one has been able to really answer this. How will hatton cope?
Probably what he did when he was countered and beaten to the punch by Tszyu: hit his opponent back until he loses his will to go on. Does Floyd have the power or will of Kostya? I think not.
mancat
07-30-2007, 05:14 PM
Probably what he did when he was countered and beaten to the punch by Tszyu: hit his opponent back until he loses his will to go on. Does Floyd have the power or will of Kostya? I think not.
What has Tzyu done to prove he has a great will? Remember, he QUIT on his stool against Hatton, he wasn't carried out on his shield. You had better hope that Hatton has a strong will to hang with Mayweather.
Ramshall1
07-30-2007, 05:32 PM
Floyd ran from Baldomir, nuff said.
psychopath
07-30-2007, 05:41 PM
What makes all of you so sure Floyd will be on his Bike???
SIMPLE . . . COMMON SENSE!
Have you seen Floyd figure out in a hugfest? Do you think he will allow Hatton to clinch and punch?
. . . . there . . . you've got your answer. :yep :rofl
The Kurgan
07-30-2007, 06:22 PM
What has Tzyu done to prove he has a great will? Remember, he QUIT on his stool against Hatton, he wasn't carried out on his shield. You had better hope that Hatton has a strong will to hang with Mayweather.
The point being that Tszyu quit because he was fighting Hatton. Tszyu never seemed close to being troubled by adversity before then, because he'd never faced adversity such as Hatton presents. Floyd hasn't, and won't, until the Hitman Hits.
Stewbear
07-30-2007, 06:36 PM
all those saying floyd wont be on his bicycle.... all seems very familiar the conversations just like before the baldo and oscar fights/track events:patsch
C Money
07-30-2007, 07:10 PM
Everyones entitled to their opinion:good
That said?? I hope and pray that BigGame and ALo are right with this "assesment" that Floyd will come at Hatton.:happy
It'll be THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF HIS LIFE:D
Floyd isnt anywhere near as physically strong as Hatton and to allow him anywhere NEAR him only plays to Hatton's advantage!!! Floyd must rely on his defense, speed, and angles or MYSELF and many, many, many others will get an early Christmas wish:good
IMO?? This strategy "idea" just goes to show the blind bias of PBF fans toward their man. It makes absolutely no sense from a realistic fight plan perspective.
Now, PBf could win this fight by using his movement, defense and angles, in fact he'll win NO OTHER WAY!!! As for stoppage:lol: I'll go so far as to say THE ONLY WAY PBF can get a stoppage is ON CUTS which would likely be the result of his jab and countering Hatton on the way in.
I'd like to put Big Game and ALO in Floyds corner working the fight:yep :yep
Toopretty
07-30-2007, 07:44 PM
Castillo is and was shot. period...no fucking question about that an old war torn lightweight. Castillo looked like pure shot shit in his last fight and took him 6 rounds just to get going.
Toopretty
07-30-2007, 07:46 PM
Floyd can stand and dead in front of hatton and make him miss block his little so called power shots and counter him with the right hand any way any time he wants. If hattons starts to push and shove he will be suprised with a forearm or elbow in the throat..Counter right hands all day until hatton is a bloody puddle
BigReg
07-30-2007, 07:58 PM
Floyd can stand and dead in front of hatton and make him miss block his little so called power shots and counter him with the right hand any way any time he wants. If hattons starts to push and shove he will be suprised with a forearm or elbow in the throat..Counter right hands all day until hatton is a bloody puddle
You're crazy. You have no idea what you're talking about. If Floyd sticks out that elbow, it will clearly hit that short son of a bitch in his forehead, not his throat. There's no way Floyd can get is forearm that low unless he's on his knees.
C Money
07-30-2007, 07:59 PM
Floyd can stand and dead in front of hatton and make him miss block his little so called power shots and counter him with the right hand any way any time he wants. If hattons starts to push and shove he will be suprised with a forearm or elbow in the throat..Counter right hands all day until hatton is a bloody puddle
Glad you feel that way. Maybewe can sign you on as the "cutman":good
Let Floyd stand inside, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Toopretty
07-30-2007, 08:03 PM
You're crazy. You have no idea what you're talking about. If Floyd sticks out that elbow, it will clearly hit that short son of a bitch in his forehead, not his throat. There's no way Floyd can get is forearm that low unless he's on his knees.
Hatton is 2 inches shorter. and he fights str8 up. He dont tuck his chin and does not damn for sure bend his knees or fight in a crouch. His kneck is in the perfect spot to be forearmed. Floyd did that to castillo and castillo fights in a crouch also Jesus chavez who is shorter then hatton..give me a break.
mancat
07-30-2007, 08:03 PM
The point being that Tszyu quit because he was fighting Hatton. Tszyu never seemed close to being troubled by adversity before then, because he'd never faced adversity such as Hatton presents. Floyd hasn't, and won't, until the Hitman Hits.
Nonsense. He quit because he's a quitter. None of Hatton's other opponents quit on their stool. You cannot claim a fighter has agreat will when he has refused to come out for the 11th round. Hell, Tzyu wasn't even injured.
Mayweather, on the other hand, has fought with broken ribs and hand (Castillo I) and gave Castillo an immeadiate rematch when the victory was questioned. Therefore your point about Tzyu having a stronger will than Mayweather is baseless.
BigReg
07-30-2007, 08:06 PM
Hatton is 2 inches shorter. and he fights str8 up. He dont tuck his chin and does not damn for sure bend his knees or fight in a crouch. His kneck is in the perfect spot to be forearmed. Floyd did that to castillo and castillo fights in a crouch also Jesus chavez who is shorter then hatton..give me a break.
I was just joking. I've watched plenty of Floyd's fights. He's famous for sticking out that forerarm(got docked for it against Castillo). He also used to have a habbit of sliding out of the way real quick and pushing his opponent into the ropes. He needs to bring that move back.
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 08:42 PM
What has Tzyu done to prove he has a great will? Remember, he QUIT on his stool against Hatton, he wasn't carried out on his shield. You had better hope that Hatton has a strong will to hang with Mayweather.
Exactly! Zoo quit on his stool and was TKOed by that crackhead Phiilips. PBF has more heart and will than most give him credit for.
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 08:44 PM
Floyd ran from Baldomir, nuff said.
Ran to a 11 round to 1 boxing lesson.:deal
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 08:46 PM
Floyd can stand and dead in front of hatton and make him miss block his little so called power shots and counter him with the right hand any way any time he wants. If hattons starts to push and shove he will be suprised with a forearm or elbow in the throat..Counter right hands all day until hatton is a bloody puddle
Yep if Hatton wants to hold an hit PBF will be more than happy to smash his throat in with his forearm.:yep
Ramshall1
07-30-2007, 08:48 PM
Ran to a 11 round to 1 boxing lesson.:deal
zzzzzzzzz
Toopretty
07-30-2007, 08:50 PM
zzzzzzzzz
Ram, its no denying your hate for Mayweather. That stupid pick. Post a pick of him getting knocked out. Crying on his stool from punishment. Oh..you cant..there are none.:patsch
C Money
07-30-2007, 08:50 PM
Exactly! Zoo quit on his stool and was TKOed by that crackhead Phiilips. PBF has more heart and will than most give him credit for.
You're a fucking IDIOT for shitting on Phillips like that and TSZYU. VP wasnt always a crackhead, in fact he was a damn tough fighter. Many great fighters have had drug issues, they are human and human's fail and make mistakes, unfortunately.
Tszyu?? Funny how floyd opted for Bruseles and said Tszyu wasnt old enough when Tszyu had said he only wanted the biggest fight/money he could get. Yes, he quit in that fight, but he was a TRUE and TOUGH CHAMPION. You werent the one taking the punishment and Duran quit too once upon a time under worse circumstances.....let me guess, ANOTHER PUSSY???
Should the world run around saying Fuck Floyd The Woman beater???:-( :-( :-( :-(
Ramshall1
07-30-2007, 08:52 PM
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C Money
07-30-2007, 08:54 PM
Ram, its no denying your hate for Mayweather. That stupid pick. Post a pick of him getting knocked out. Crying on his stool from punishment. Oh..you cant..there are none.:patsch
Well, this is the first time since 2002 that floyd has taken on a top opponent and it'll be interesting to see the pics we'll get out of
PBF vs Hatton, PBF vs SSM, PBF vs Cotto(KO 4 SURE), and PBF vs Williams.
I hate PBF and find him a fucking ASSHOLE who avoids tough opponents all the while talking shit and disrespecting the ATG's and the sport itself. Yet?? If Floyd throws up 4 more W's?? I'll respect what he will HAVE PROVEN TO BE and NOT UNTIL!!!!!!!!
Ramshall1
07-30-2007, 08:55 PM
Well, this is the first time since 2002 that floyd has taken on a top opponent and it'll be interesting to see the pics we'll get out of
PBF vs Hatton, PBF vs SSM, PBF vs Cotto(KO 4 SURE), and PBF vs Williams.
I hate PBF and find him a fucking ASSHOLE who avoids tough opponents all the while talking shit and disrespecting the ATG's and the sport itself. Yet?? If Floyd throws up 4 more W's?? I'll respect what he will HAVE PROVEN TO BE and NOT UNTIL!!!!!!!!
Fraud doesnt have the balls to get in the ring with Cotto/Shane/Williams.
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 08:55 PM
You're a fucking IDIOT for shitting on Phillips like that and TSZYU. VP wasnt always a crackhead, in fact he was a damn tough fighter. Many great fighters have had drug issues, they are human and human's fail and make mistakes, unfortunately.
Tszyu?? Funny how floyd opted for Bruseles and said Tszyu wasnt old enough when Tszyu had said he only wanted the biggest fight/money he could get. Yes, he quit in that fight, but he was a TRUE and TOUGH CHAMPION. You werent the one taking the punishment and Duran quit too once upon a time under worse circumstances.....let me guess, ANOTHER PUSSY???
Should the world run around saying Fuck Floyd The Woman beater???:-( :-( :-( :-(
You can't handle the truth. The truth is Zoo quit on his stool... it is what it is. I picked Zoo to win that fight and was pulling for him to win but he quit period. As for Phillips perhaps I was being a bit harsh but Zoo should have never been beaten by a fighter the calibre of Phillips.
As for the whole Zoo-PBF thing we've already had that discussion and both of us have our own opinions and will never change each others mind.:good
Pimp C
07-30-2007, 08:59 PM
Fraud doesnt have the balls to get in the ring with Cotto/Shane/Williams.
How do you know this? He already tried fighting Mosley but was turned down by him because Shane wanted to get his tooth fixed.
When Cotto was at 140 PBF wanted him but Arum said he was too green and wouldn't put him anywher near Cotto. Williams you might have a point but who knows. If the fight makes him a lot of money 10 mil or more he'll probably fight him. But really Williams hasn't really done anything IMO he beat an overhyped limited fighter he has a lot more to prove IMO.
samita
07-30-2007, 08:59 PM
I keep reading post sfter post about how Floyd will run his way to a UD, or Floyd will fight in survival mode. I don't think Floyd will be anywhere except in front of Hatton, or giving him angles. You can best believe that Floyd will be putting alot behind his shots. This isn't just a fight for Floyd, it's personal, and he wants to make a statement! I don't think Floyd has any intentions on jut outboxing Hatton which he could rather easily, and prolly when all 12rds. He wants to punish Ricky, and he will from the moment that bell rings.
Alot of ppl on here used to say Hatton was/is the bigger stronger guy well I beg to differ w/the strength aspect. I think ppl make all pressure fighters out to be the extremely strong guys, and boxer movers out to be sorta weaker. It's a myth to me. I doubt Hatton is stronger than Floyd, and I doubt he hits harder. I'm almost possitve Floyd has stronger legs.
Heart? It's funny how Floyds heart is questioned and I'm curious as to why that is? Someone please ans that for me!! The guys fought w/injured ribs, an injured shoulder, multiple hand injuries, and has never bailed out of a fight or loss a fight:nono His will power, and determination are underestimated and you'll all find out what more he's made of in Dec. Hatton will come hard, and come strong, but Floyd will be waiting w/a bag full of Skill, Will, Speed, Determination, Power, and the ability to make Hatton look bad if he doesn't polish up! Oh yeah...and if you think Hatton will stop Floyd w/a body shot you're folling yourself. Hatton has a nice left hook to the body, but Floyd's never really been affected by them, but Hatton on the otherhand has, and Floyd is a very good body puncher. Hatton better find a way to protect his!!
I'm going w/Floyd by stoppage!!
he'll be on his bike because he's too paranoid, afraid of losing. the last thing floyd cares about these days is winning in an impressive way. He's more than satisfied oupointing his opponents with soft feathery punches. fuck, at this point of his career you can put a junior flyweight against him and he'd still be running around.
its just funny how floyd got the nerve to cry after fights cause people aren't giving him love, bitch please. maybe if he starts fighting and punching like he means it.
El Bombasto
07-30-2007, 09:01 PM
Because I have seen his fights
Ramshall1
07-30-2007, 09:02 PM
How do you know this? He already tried fighting Mosley but was turned down by him because Shane wanted to get his tooth fixed.
When Cotto was at 140 PBF wanted him but Arum said he was too green and wouldn't put him anywher near Cotto. Williams you might have a point but who knows. If the fight makes him a lot of money 10 mil or more he'll probably fight him. But really Williams hasn't really done anything IMO he beat an overhyped limited fighter he has a lot more to prove IMO.
blah blah blah. . . he saw that Shane still had his handspeed in the Collazo fight, saw Cotto slice up Zab worse than he ever did and saw Hatton struggle with Collazo and beat a "no legs" JLC and said - Yup, Hatton is the path of least resistance of the bunch.
C Money
07-30-2007, 09:03 PM
You can't handle the truth. The truth is Zoo quit on his stool... it is what it is. I picked Zoo to win that fight and was pulling for him to win but he quit period. As for Phillips perhaps I was being a bit harsh but Zoo should have never been beaten by a fighter the calibre of Phillips.
As for the whole Zoo-PBF thing we've already had that discussion and both of us have our own opinions and will never change each others mind.:good
I handled the truth and yes Tzsyu QUIT as I said Duran did too, that alone doesnt erase what they were as Champions AND FIGHTERS.
As for the Tszyu vs PBF thing?? IT was an ON CAMERA STATEMENT BY FLOYD, not a figment of my imagination. You can interpret and feel as you like.
Glad to hear you admit harshness on Phillips, all I'll say is I think you're also underestimating how tough he was PRE-CRACK:good
C Money
07-30-2007, 09:05 PM
How do you know this? He already tried fighting Mosley but was turned down by him because Shane wanted to get his tooth fixed.
When Cotto was at 140 PBF wanted him but Arum said he was too green and wouldn't put him anywher near Cotto. Williams you might have a point but who knows. If the fight makes him a lot of money 10 mil or more he'll probably fight him. But really Williams hasn't really done anything IMO he beat an overhyped limited fighter he has a lot more to prove IMO.
Fucking more offers BS??:lol: :lol:
Well, you sang the same song about Hatton. At least one hurdle is cleared, I hope that Floyd will do the same vs the others as well and legitimize his legacy:good
samita
07-30-2007, 09:05 PM
blah blah blah. . . he saw that Shane still had his handspeed in the Collazo fight, saw Cotto slice up Zab worse than he ever did and saw Hatton struggle with Collazo and beat a "no legs" JLC and said - Yup, Hatton is the path of least resistance of the bunch.
very true. this fight makes no sense to me whatsoever, its not going to prove shit.
sonny73
07-30-2007, 09:22 PM
This fight ain't personal...Floyd is fighting for the dollar,not much prestige in fighting a guy at WW who will be coming in at LW,Mayweather don't care too much.Hatton is fighting primarily for the prestige,beating the P4P guy at a higher weight class than your own is pretty damn impressive
Ambition_Def
07-30-2007, 09:37 PM
Against Hatton? He has to get on his bike. And you know what? I don't blame him.
Hatton will punch and grab all night long. You don't beat a guy like that moving forward. Unless of course you can get off first and hurt him bad enough to stop him.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 09:45 PM
Everyones entitled to their opinion:good
That said?? I hope and pray that BigGame and ALo are right with this "assesment" that Floyd will come at Hatton.:happy
It'll be THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF HIS LIFE:D
Floyd isnt anywhere near as physically strong as Hatton and to allow him anywhere NEAR him only plays to Hatton's advantage!!! Floyd must rely on his defense, speed, and angles or MYSELF and many, many, many others will get an early Christmas wish:good
IMO?? This strategy "idea" just goes to show the blind bias of PBF fans toward their man. It makes absolutely no sense from a realistic fight plan perspective.
Now, PBf could win this fight by using his movement, defense and angles, in fact he'll win NO OTHER WAY!!! As for stoppage:lol: I'll go so far as to say THE ONLY WAY PBF can get a stoppage is ON CUTS which would likely be the result of his jab and countering Hatton on the way in.
I'd like to put Big Game and ALO in Floyds corner working the fight:yep :yep
That pretty funny there C Money. Do you really think Hatton is that much stronger than Floyd? Because they fight in different styles doesn't mean Hatton is stronger. I go as far as to say Floyd's probably stronger. You might've be right 2-3yrs ago, but not now!!:nono
Floyd's been there w/much harder hitter, and these are one one punch power guys. Floyd doesn't back down he fights smart. Against Baldo and Oscar he fought smart and won easily. Both guys outweighed him by 15-20lbs fight night and as you saw recently w/Baldo there was no way Floyd was KO/tkoing him...who can!! W/Hatton it will be different, he'll be fighting a guy his size, and in his weightclass fight night. Hatton will bring it, but Floyd will be there to give it back crisper,faster, and harder.
Here's the difference some you guys can't seem to grasp. When you think of Floyd going at it you think of a guy who's chin is exposed, and who getting hit just as much, that won't be the case. You're mixing him up w/Hatton, so you might want to get that picture out of your head! Floyd will be there and mix it up, except he'll do it wisely, and w/more precision w/out having to leave himself vunerable like Hatton will. Floyd will fight Hatton in the pocket, and show him how to in fight. He'll beat him from the outside too. Floyd's body is very durable, chin real good, but we can't say the same for Hatton can we?
Get one thing straight...Hatton's style is made for guys who have little to no footwork, and the same type of head movement. Guys who are right there to be hit. Collazo didn't give Hatton that trouble because he was bigger, or because of the weight. Hatton couldn't deal w/a slick fighter w/good hand speed! It's an excuse!!! Hatton hadn't faced one, and now he's facing someone who's faster, slicker, and more than likely hits harder!! Hatton's camp has alwys paired him w/opponents he could get to so he looks good. Floyd isn't one of those guys:nono
Now to mistakes...what will be Hatton's biggest mistake is if he thinks he can walk thru Floyds punches!! Hatton better use his head in there or it'll be over early!!
:hi:
Ted Stickles
07-30-2007, 09:46 PM
In all honesty i think Hatton has no place at the 147 weight class ,and Mayweather will not only be the faster and better skilled fighter but also the bigger one and i dont see Ricky winning this one as much as i would like him to ............
Biggame
07-30-2007, 09:56 PM
he'll be on his bike because he's too paranoid, afraid of losing. the last thing floyd cares about these days is winning in an impressive way. He's more than satisfied oupointing his opponents with soft feathery punches. fuck, at this point of his career you can put a junior flyweight against him and he'd still be running around.
its just funny how floyd got the nerve to cry after fights cause people aren't giving him love, bitch please. maybe if he starts fighting and punching like he means it.
Thanks for very insightful post!!
:patsch
Biggame
07-30-2007, 09:59 PM
This fight ain't personal...Floyd is fighting for the dollar,not much prestige in fighting a guy at WW who will be coming in at LW,Mayweather don't care too much.Hatton is fighting primarily for the prestige,beating the P4P guy at a higher weight class than your own is pretty damn impressive
That's a good one, I guess than Oscar was fighting for money, and Floyd was fighting for prestige in there bout then right?
Toopretty
07-30-2007, 10:04 PM
Hatton is damned for sure fighting for the money..lol..I love it...UK got to love it....If there wasnt 10 mill for him(his best pay day by more then triple) he would not go near floyd.
Biggame
07-30-2007, 10:41 PM
Hatton is damned for sure fighting for the money..lol..I love it...UK got to love it....If there wasnt 10 mill for him(his best pay day by more then triple) he would not go near floyd.
Exactly!!
C Money
07-31-2007, 03:17 AM
That pretty funny there C Money. Do you really think Hatton is that much stronger than Floyd? Because they fight in different styles doesn't mean Hatton is stronger. I go as far as to say Floyd's probably stronger. You might've be right 2-3yrs ago, but not now!!:nono
Floyd's been there w/much harder hitter, and these are one one punch power guys. Floyd doesn't back down he fights smart. Against Baldo and Oscar he fought smart and won easily. Both guys outweighed him by 15-20lbs fight night and as you saw recently w/Baldo there was no way Floyd was KO/tkoing him...who can!! W/Hatton it will be different, he'll be fighting a guy his size, and in his weightclass fight night. Hatton will bring it, but Floyd will be there to give it back crisper,faster, and harder.
Here's the difference some you guys can't seem to grasp. When you think of Floyd going at it you think of a guy who's chin is exposed, and who getting hit just as much, that won't be the case. You're mixing him up w/Hatton, so you might want to get that picture out of your head! Floyd will be there and mix it up, except he'll do it wisely, and w/more precision w/out having to leave himself vunerable like Hatton will. Floyd will fight Hatton in the pocket, and show him how to in fight. He'll beat him from the outside too. Floyd's body is very durable, chin real good, but we can't say the same for Hatton can we?
Get one thing straight...Hatton's style is made for guys who have little to no footwork, and the same type of head movement. Guys who are right there to be hit. Collazo didn't give Hatton that trouble because he was bigger, or because of the weight. Hatton couldn't deal w/a slick fighter w/good hand speed! It's an excuse!!! Hatton hadn't faced one, and now he's facing someone who's faster, slicker, and more than likely hits harder!! Hatton's camp has alwys paired him w/opponents he could get to so he looks good. Floyd isn't one of those guys:nono
Now to mistakes...what will be Hatton's biggest mistake is if he thinks he can walk thru Floyds punches!! Hatton better use his head in there or it'll be over early!!
:hi:
:lol:
On the matter of physical strength??? I'm going on what I've seen from Floyds opponents and WHAT I'VE HAD DIRECTLY RELATED TO ME from someone WHO"S BEEN IN THE RING WITH PBF:good
I love when turds compare a southpaw and an orthodox fighter and then use it as a guide to what happens in this fight:rofl :rofl :rofl
You do nothing more than SHOW THE IGNORANCE and LIMIT of you're opinion!!!
Further?/ OLD DLH made a competitive and rather close fight with Floyd and failed to use his jab, so the fantasy dominance PBF will have vs Hatton doesnt hold weight in my book. I can see PBF winning a UD or even by stoppage ON CUTS, but he will have to look more li9ke he did in the second Castillo fight than the first or the DLH fight. Anything less?? It's going down to the wire and Floyd's in danger of losing that oh so precious.....0:good
Further, Floyd's a decent puncher, but has hand issues and isnt a 1 punch type guy. Hatton will NOT stay in Floyd's punching range as did Gatti and Hatton is superior to Gatti in damn near every category. Floyd's power wont be an issue for Hatton, speed and cuts?? Might be.
Like I said, You, ALo, and TOO Pretty should man Floyd's corner for this event!!! It''l be a very, merry Christmas INDEED!!!!!!!:happy :happy :happy
Lacyace
07-31-2007, 03:33 AM
Hatton's about to fall into counter-punch hell.
kg0208
07-31-2007, 03:47 AM
Hatton is gonna need to get a good read on Mayweather's counters early on to win. He needs to be able to read them not to dodge them, but to know when they are coming so he can immediately follow up since the best openings against PBF are when he is throwing. He cannot get in a chess match with PBF.
Biggame
07-31-2007, 09:01 AM
:lol:
On the matter of physical strength??? I'm going on what I've seen from Floyds opponents and WHAT I'VE HAD DIRECTLY RELATED TO ME from someone WHO"S BEEN IN THE RING WITH PBF:good
I love when turds compare a southpaw and an orthodox fighter and then use it as a guide to what happens in this fight:rofl :rofl :rofl
You do nothing more than SHOW THE IGNORANCE and LIMIT of you're opinion!!!
Further?/ OLD DLH made a competitive and rather close fight with Floyd and failed to use his jab, so the fantasy dominance PBF will have vs Hatton doesnt hold weight in my book. I can see PBF winning a UD or even by stoppage ON CUTS, but he will have to look more li9ke he did in the second Castillo fight than the first or the DLH fight. Anything less?? It's going down to the wire and Floyd's in danger of losing that oh so precious.....0:good
Further, Floyd's a decent puncher, but has hand issues and isnt a 1 punch type guy. Hatton will NOT stay in Floyd's punching range as did Gatti and Hatton is superior to Gatti in damn near every category. Floyd's power wont be an issue for Hatton, speed and cuts?? Might be.
Like I said, You, ALo, and TOO Pretty should man Floyd's corner for this event!!! It''l be a very, merry Christmas INDEED!!!!!!!:happy :happy :happy
Call it what you want buddy. I call yours an opinion which you're entitled to, you call mines ignorance(pretty corny) I guess one of us will be right come December! I mysef think your limited period. There's nothing I said that sounds ignorant, and you fall along the lines of cornball posters who feel like if the opinion varies than the other side is ignorant:-( What a dumb fuck you are!! I'm comparing a southpaw, and an orthodox fighter genius:huh If you noticed I state the style of fighter, not the fighter himself! Who's ignorant,...I mean you should've picked that up right? Uhhh no!! You can't see that far or comprehend that. Hatton has steered clear of slick fighters w/good speed, and w/reason! Let me write it again for those slow on the take(C Money) Hatton has steered clear of slick fighters w/good speed) It has nothing to do w/stance!
Neither fighter is a one punch hitter, but they both have decent power and Floyd having hand problems aint news to anyone. It also had a big affect on his punching during his career!
You bring up the fight w/Oscar for what? Hatton aint oscar:nono Hatton aint a prime Castillo. Floyd doesn't have to worry about a mean left hook, Polished pressure(Castillo) or penetrating a defense(Oscar) against Hatton's face forward huggy bear style. You're to used to seeing Hatton fight ppl in front of him w/ski boots and a neck brace on! Floyd is something new for Hatton whereas Hatton aint nothing new for Floyd! Hatton doesn't have a jab, and even if he did it would only work against him w/Floyd being longer, and much faster. Floyd has the quick footwork to get out of the way of Hatton hold, and hug style when he wants to.
Floyd won't be on his bike, and be there didnging Hatton from the outside, the inside, and from angles that will have Hatton frustrated. The fight won't go the distance. If it gets stopped because of cuts that will be a good thing. A cut stoppage is better than a ref or corner stoppage!!
BTW...what does Hatton have that Floyd should be very concerned about? I want this from you. You tell what Hatton could do to win, and why it will be affective!!
Floors yours buddy!!
Imperial1
07-31-2007, 09:49 AM
Hatton is gonna need to get a good read on Mayweather's counters early on to win. He needs to be able to read them not to dodge them, but to know when they are coming so he can immediately follow up since the best openings against PBF are when he is throwing. He cannot get in a chess match with PBF.
What Hatton needs to do is apply his grapple and punch technique ..If Floyd is allowed some space Hatton's face is going to look like this :twisted: from getting tagged all night long ..Floyd won't be abe to counter as effectivly if he is roughed up and has to worry about fighting out of clinches ..
Grabonator
07-31-2007, 09:55 AM
The only way that happens it is if PBF hits Hatton with a piece of 4x4 before they go into the ring. PBF couldnt Knockdown Gatti...LMAO...And you think he is going to KO Hatton....No Fokin Way Jose!!!!!!!
PBF is going to fight safe as always....
Gatti was fucked upm verry bad against Mayweather and if McGirt wouldnt end the fight he would have been stopped, maybe in the next round. It was like Wlad vs. Brewster 2.
MacManJr.
07-31-2007, 10:15 AM
The only way that happens it is if PBF hits Hatton with a piece of 4x4 before they go into the ring. PBF couldnt Knockdown Gatti...LMAO...And you think he is going to KO Hatton....No Fokin Way Jose!!!!!!!
PBF is going to fight safe as always....Do you really think Hatton has a better chin than Gatti?
Fab2333
07-31-2007, 01:09 PM
I keep reading post sfter post about how Floyd will run his way to a UD, or Floyd will fight in survival mode. I don't think Floyd will be anywhere except in front of Hatton, or giving him angles. You can best believe that Floyd will be putting alot behind his shots. This isn't just a fight for Floyd, it's personal, and he wants to make a statement! I don't think Floyd has any intentions on jut outboxing Hatton which he could rather easily, and prolly when all 12rds. He wants to punish Ricky, and he will from the moment that bell rings.
Alot of ppl on here used to say Hatton was/is the bigger stronger guy well I beg to differ w/the strength aspect. I think ppl make all pressure fighters out to be the extremely strong guys, and boxer movers out to be sorta weaker. It's a myth to me. I doubt Hatton is stronger than Floyd, and I doubt he hits harder. I'm almost possitve Floyd has stronger legs.
Heart? It's funny how Floyds heart is questioned and I'm curious as to why that is? Someone please ans that for me!! The guys fought w/injured ribs, an injured shoulder, multiple hand injuries, and has never bailed out of a fight or loss a fight:nono His will power, and determination are underestimated and you'll all find out what more he's made of in Dec. Hatton will come hard, and come strong, but Floyd will be waiting w/a bag full of Skill, Will, Speed, Determination, Power, and the ability to make Hatton look bad if he doesn't polish up! Oh yeah...and if you think Hatton will stop Floyd w/a body shot you're folling yourself. Hatton has a nice left hook to the body, but Floyd's never really been affected by them, but Hatton on the otherhand has, and Floyd is a very good body puncher. Hatton better find a way to protect his!!
I'm going w/Floyd by stoppage!!:happy:deal
Biggame
07-31-2007, 02:30 PM
:happy:deal
:good
Biggame
07-31-2007, 02:35 PM
:happy:deal
Love that avatar!!!
:hey
markbrooklyn
07-31-2007, 05:00 PM
The only way that happens it is if PBF hits Hatton with a piece of 4x4 before they go into the ring. PBF couldnt Knockdown Gatti...LMAO...And you think he is going to KO Hatton....No Fokin Way Jose!!!!!!!
PBF is going to fight safe as always....
Ummmm Collazo who has 10 kos or so had hatton on queer street :hi:
Danny Ocean
07-31-2007, 05:04 PM
I have to disagree with you on the part where u say that Floyd hits harder than Hatton. During the onslaught of Gatti, Floyd punched him about 45-50x clean in the face, and STILL couldnt drop Gatti. Hatton almost gave Castillo a kidney/liver extraction in the middle of the ring with 1 punch.
theres a difference with head shots and body shots
plus even manny steward said pbf wears winning gloves which basically are pillows
hatton hits harder and he should he started 10pounds higher than mayweather
Ramshall1
07-31-2007, 05:14 PM
expect another track meet for the price of 55.00.
C Money
07-31-2007, 08:33 PM
Call it what you want buddy. I call yours an opinion which you're entitled to, you call mines ignorance(pretty corny) I guess one of us will be right come December! I mysef think your limited period. There's nothing I said that sounds ignorant, and you fall along the lines of cornball posters who feel like if the opinion varies than the other side is ignorant:-( What a dumb fuck you are!! I'm comparing a southpaw, and an orthodox fighter genius:huh If you noticed I state the style of fighter, not the fighter himself! Who's ignorant,...I mean you should've picked that up right? Uhhh no!! You can't see that far or comprehend that. Hatton has steered clear of slick fighters w/good speed, and w/reason! Let me write it again for those slow on the take(C Money) Hatton has steered clear of slick fighters w/good speed) It has nothing to do w/stance!
Neither fighter is a one punch hitter, but they both have decent power and Floyd having hand problems aint news to anyone. It also had a big affect on his punching during his career!
You bring up the fight w/Oscar for what? Hatton aint oscar:nono Hatton aint a prime Castillo. Floyd doesn't have to worry about a mean left hook, Polished pressure(Castillo) or penetrating a defense(Oscar) against Hatton's face forward huggy bear style. You're to used to seeing Hatton fight ppl in front of him w/ski boots and a neck brace on! Floyd is something new for Hatton whereas Hatton aint nothing new for Floyd! Hatton doesn't have a jab, and even if he did it would only work against him w/Floyd being longer, and much faster. Floyd has the quick footwork to get out of the way of Hatton hold, and hug style when he wants to.
Floyd won't be on his bike, and be there didnging Hatton from the outside, the inside, and from angles that will have Hatton frustrated. The fight won't go the distance. If it gets stopped because of cuts that will be a good thing. A cut stoppage is better than a ref or corner stoppage!!
BTW...what does Hatton have that Floyd should be very concerned about? I want this from you. You tell what Hatton could do to win, and why it will be affective!!
Floors yours buddy!!
I said ignorance is using the exmaple of Collazo(a southpaw with diffrent traits than PBF) as an example of how this fight will go. Doing that shows ignorance of the differences between such fighters and styles. You're entitled to speak as you wish, but that comparison is USELESS in predicting this outcome. PBF fans bring it up because its the worst Hatton has looked, and they want to say 47 is a weight issue, instead of realizing that Collazo's style, size, and physicality were bigger factors than just being at 47. Floyd is a naturally smaller guy and I've said all along that i dont feel 40 or 47 makes a diffrence other than in TITLES. Floyd will still have never been Champ at 40 even with a W in december. Being a slick fighter and being a slick southpaw is still very different. You wanna say Hatton's avoided slick orthodox fighter's?? Go right ahead, just leave the name Collazo OUT OF THE EQUATION, as it has nothing in style similarity to FLOYD. Or, continue sounding like an idiot, it's you're choice.:good Although, Hattons about to face the slickest of slick(right?), so he's avoiding them, no longer holds weight.
As for opinion's varying??? STFU!!!!! I said that I can see PBF winning a decision or even getting a stoppage on cuts, so I'm not, nor was I, dissing you because our opinion's DIFFER!!! I dissed the Collazo fight as a comparison TO THIS FIGHT and I'm absolutley right in doing so!!
IMO, you simply downgrade the abilities posessed by Hatton because you swing from Floyd's balls. Why bring up Oscar?? Well you PBF groupies act as if Floyd's some kind of SUPERHUMAN that is light years ahead of Hatton and ignore the fact that an old DLH pushed Floyd and came within a few points of winning. At this stage?? Hatton's younger, faster, and has a better body attack than DLH ever did. The point is despite all your musing and conjecture, this will be a competitive fight between TWO PRIME UNDEFEATED CHAMPIONS, not floyd vs another also ran:nono You say Hatton doesnt have a jab?? DLH didnt use his against Floyd either and still made it competitive. BTW, Hatton did use his own jab vs Maussa and it helped set up a beatiful left hook that nearly decapitated Maussa. Now, obviously Floyd's far, far better than Maussa but Hatton does know how to jab, though he doesnt prefer too. If he mixes just a little of that in against PBF?? It's gonna be even harder for Supa lips.
Castillo?? :lol: Hatton's better than Castillo THEN and NOW in my opinion. That's no knock of JLC, I respect him and he's a solid Champ, but again, you feel the way you do, and I see it more as singing Floyds song, rather than objectivity or rationale comparison. Hatton will have more effective pressure than JLC did it the first fight:yep
What does Floyd have to worry about with Hatton?? PRESSURE, body work, good power(especially to the body), good conditioning, and underrated speed. Hatton will force Floyd to work each and every moment and PBF displays the low work rate he did vs DLH?? You ladies will be :| :| :| . Now, nothing I'm gonna say is gonna make you believe or feel differently and that's fine, feel what ya like:good
This will be a tough competitive fight, no matter who wins, and it will be a VERY GOOD WIN for the winner. I believe PBF is the slight favorite, but very much look forward to seeing Primadonna Boy pushed as he hasnt been TO DATE!!!!
Dear God,
Please let Floyd follow Big Girl's fightplan and drastically underestimate Hatton the way he does. That's ALL I WANT, for Christmas:good
:lol:
JMotrain
07-31-2007, 10:32 PM
Floyd knocked Gatti down in the first round :D
Yeah when Gatti had his back to him. Yes Floyd will run, he is not going to trade with Hatton. What makes you guys think Floyd is going to change his style against Hatton? He talks all this shit about how he is going to KO Baldomir, KO ODLH and all it is is Floyd running his god damn mouth. He will most likely potshot himself to a boring decision, since judges look for activity over power.
Biggame
08-01-2007, 03:08 AM
I said ignorance is using the exmaple of Collazo(a southpaw with diffrent traits than PBF) as an example of how this fight will go. Doing that shows ignorance of the differences between such fighters and styles. You're entitled to speak as you wish, but that comparison is USELESS in predicting this outcome. PBF fans bring it up because its the worst Hatton has looked, and they want to say 47 is a weight issue, instead of realizing that Collazo's style, size, and physicality were bigger factors than just being at 47. Floyd is a naturally smaller guy and I've said all along that i dont feel 40 or 47 makes a diffrence other than in TITLES. Floyd will still have never been Champ at 40 even with a W in december. Being a slick fighter and being a slick southpaw is still very different. You wanna say Hatton's avoided slick orthodox fighter's?? Go right ahead, just leave the name Collazo OUT OF THE EQUATION, as it has nothing in style similarity to FLOYD. Or, continue sounding like an idiot, it's you're choice.:good Although, Hattons about to face the slickest of slick(right?), so he's avoiding them, no longer holds weight.
As for opinion's varying??? STFU!!!!! I said that I can see PBF winning a decision or even getting a stoppage on cuts, so I'm not, nor was I, dissing you because our opinion's DIFFER!!! I dissed the Collazo fight as a comparison TO THIS FIGHT and I'm absolutley right in doing so!!
IMO, you simply downgrade the abilities posessed by Hatton because you swing from Floyd's balls. Why bring up Oscar?? Well you PBF groupies act as if Floyd's some kind of SUPERHUMAN that is light years ahead of Hatton and ignore the fact that an old DLH pushed Floyd and came within a few points of winning. At this stage?? Hatton's younger, faster, and has a better body attack than DLH ever did. The point is despite all your musing and conjecture, this will be a competitive fight between TWO PRIME UNDEFEATED CHAMPIONS, not floyd vs another also ran:nono You say Hatton doesnt have a jab?? DLH didnt use his against Floyd either and still made it competitive. BTW, Hatton did use his own jab vs Maussa and it helped set up a beatiful left hook that nearly decapitated Maussa. Now, obviously Floyd's far, far better than Maussa but Hatton does know how to jab, though he doesnt prefer too. If he mixes just a little of that in against PBF?? It's gonna be even harder for Supa lips.
Castillo?? :lol: Hatton's better than Castillo THEN and NOW in my opinion. That's no knock of JLC, I respect him and he's a solid Champ, but again, you feel the way you do, and I see it more as singing Floyds song, rather than objectivity or rationale comparison. Hatton will have more effective pressure than JLC did it the first fight:yep
What does Floyd have to worry about with Hatton?? PRESSURE, body work, good power(especially to the body), good conditioning, and underrated speed. Hatton will force Floyd to work each and every moment and PBF displays the low work rate he did vs DLH?? You ladies will be :| :| :| . Now, nothing I'm gonna say is gonna make you believe or feel differently and that's fine, feel what ya like:good
This will be a tough competitive fight, no matter who wins, and it will be a VERY GOOD WIN for the winner. I believe PBF is the slight favorite, but very much look forward to seeing Primadonna Boy pushed as he hasnt been TO DATE!!!!
:lol:
1st off,.. what's ignorant is you actually believing that you can throw a fighter in an equation to try and bolster you point or opinion, and turn around and act as if another fighter doesn't fit it because you can't comprehend the point!! That's ignorant!!
Everything you just said was of opinion, and from your point of view(you do realize that don't you?) it's like your primitive or something. I mean read, and comprehend the words and sentences as they are written. Don't take a word or two out and respond. You sound like an idiot!
So what style does Collazo employ? That wouldn't be a slick style w/good hand speed would it? Damn...that's sorta like Floyd, but not as fluid, or good right. Interpet what you see, not what you want to see. You haters stay skipping shit, and forgetting a word, and even whole lines so you can call someone a hugger, or your favorite one..swinging from someones balls!! Another thing...I never said 147lbs was an issue for Hatton which is a clear sign that you're slow, or you just block shit it. I already stated in a post directly to you that "Collazo didn't give Hatton trouble because he was bigger, or because of weight. Hatton couldn't deal w/a slick fighter w/good hand speed" So what the fuck are you talking about here? You keep trying to dismiss my point because Collazo was a southpaw, but you know exactly what it's about. You know that if you agree w/what I say it makes it even clearer why Floyd will make Hatton look bad! You can't have that because it will kill some of your argument. That's cool.. play dumb. You can play stupid all night but come fight night you see exactly what I meant, and you'll try and say Floyd was to slick, and to fast!
Now how could you bring Oscar into the equation for what you think he was capable of doing but feel Hatton will do better and more effectively against Floyd, but dismiss Collazo:huh Typical...let's bring up Oscar for his little success against Floyd, but leave Collazo out because....umm! Try and finish that for me ok. Talk about ignorance!! Hatton has avoided slick fighter like the plague, and if Collazo wasn't one I wouldn't mention him. So what he's a southpaw. I'm not talking stance, I'm talking skillset, and style! You get that part yet? Oh yeah, and that fight wasn't even close as the cards, and you Haterz try to make it out to be. See you guys gave Oscar rds because he didn't look as bad. Just because you look better the next rd doesn't mean you win the rd...it means you didn't lose it as badly!!
You bring up Hatton having a jab and how he used it against Maussa...well that just shows how fucking desperate you can be. You're really bringing up Maussa as an example. A guy who could be hit on accident. This guy defense is non-existent. He couldn't couldn't get out of the way of turtles punch, but this is your example?:rofl :rofl :rofl What a village Idiot!!! Maussa couldn't get out of the way of a punch if he was told 30 sec's in advance it was coming, and where it was landing!! I hope Hatton does try and jab because Floyd loves to come overtop of them w/right hand counters! I'm not downgrading Hatton's abilities as you'd like to think because I can downgrade something he doesn't have. He's not polished, he doesn't have a good jab(IMO) I think he only looks quick because of the opponent he has in front of him
As far as Hatton and Prime Castillo comparison. Castillo in his prime was a vicious body puncher, and a much much more polished pressure fighter, and that's why he was able to deal w/faster, slicker fighters. Again these are guys Hatton has avoided his whole career. Hatton won't come close to what Castillo was able to do against Floyd in there 1st fight:nono If I saw Hatton deal w/a slick fast fighter well, than I might state else wise. Floyd on the other hand has dealt w/guys like Hatton who were more polished which is what you and all your pussy Haterz don't realize. You say I act like Floyd's superhuman...lol! Hatton better be superhuman fight night!! You say Hatton will force Floyd to work every rd, and I know he'll try but he won't have to hard because Floyd will be coming to work every rd while it last. Evrything you just mentioned for Hatton to do to win Floyd's Faced. Hatton has never faced anything close to Floyd:nono remember that!!! Also don't forget that Floyd's a defensive wizard. The best in the business. That's another reason why Hatton will look bad!!
Well I'm not here to change you're opinion, nor do I want to. I like to here yours, and others w/out the BS. Hell..this forum wouldn't last if there wasn't a difference of opinion. I'll try to debate in a more civil manner next time if you leave out you're corny little tidbits! I just hope you're here after the fight so I can get in that ass about this debate!!
BTW...now that I got you to say what you think Hatton could do to win, tell what Floyd could do or why you think he wins!!!
I have to disagree with you on the part where u say that Floyd hits harder than Hatton. During the onslaught of Gatti, Floyd punched him about 45-50x clean in the face, and STILL couldnt drop Gatti. Hatton almost gave Castillo a kidney/liver extraction in the middle of the ring with 1 punch.
The sad thing about floyd's punching power is even gomez dropped gatti with 1 punch.
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