Forrest Griffin vs Rashad Evans [Archive]

rekcutnevets

09-09-2008, 12:33 AM

Tito was not prepared for Griffin. Shogun didn't know he could fight, and showed up ill prepared due to an injury. Jackson didn't know any better than Tito or Shogun.

I'm not falling for the all these people not being prepared excuse. Forrest is just a tough person to get a w against.

Griffin UD

jimmie

09-09-2008, 12:55 AM

Forest sub, people understimate the fact he is world class on the ground.

Hes good I dont know if id go ahead calling him world class on the ground just yet.

scurlaruntings

09-09-2008, 06:10 AM

Forest sub, people understimate the fact he is world class on the ground.World class? Forrest is competent on the ground but id hardly call him world class. :nono

jupzrooni

09-09-2008, 06:15 AM

shit when will machida ever get a title shot?:-(

forrest UD

dwilson

09-09-2008, 07:23 AM

Forest by stoppage.

québecwarrior

09-09-2008, 08:11 AM

Forrest UD but he has a weak chin so Evans could get a KO.
a weak chin gets KO by that uppercut of Rampage. But I agree that his chin is far from great, he get buzzed there and there by punch.

BewareofDawg

09-09-2008, 08:20 AM

And just like that....the Lt Heavyweight division is less interesting then the Heavyweight division.

jimmie

09-09-2008, 03:17 PM

a weak chin gets KO by that uppercut of Rampage. But I agree that his chin is far from great, he get buzzed there and there by punch.

Theres difference between your chin and your heart. Forrest was also taken out by a Jeremy Horn headkick and Jardine KOed him. His chin isnt very good.

québecwarrior

09-09-2008, 06:56 PM

Theres difference between your chin and your heart. Forrest was also taken out by a Jeremy Horn headkick and Jardine KOed him. His chin isnt very good. Jardine Koed him? i didnt see the fight, but I think i've seen the finish and it was like Liddell-Couture 1 where it was GnP TKO no?

ufoalf

09-09-2008, 08:13 PM

Jardine Koed him? i didnt see the fight, but I think i've seen the finish and it was like Liddell-Couture 1 where it was GnP TKO no?

No, it was Keith Jardine fucking Forrest up. Finished him off on the ground with 1-2 punches before being called off.

québecwarrior

09-09-2008, 08:34 PM

No, it was Keith Jardine fucking Forrest up. Finished him off on the ground with 1-2 punches before being called off.
Okay, thanks

jimmie

09-09-2008, 10:22 PM

Yeah but it wasnt like a takedown then GNP Jardine dropped him then finished him off alittle later imagine what Rampage did to Forrest in the 1st just a couple more shots and getting the finish.

québecwarrior

09-09-2008, 11:40 PM

Jardine is a bizzare guy, he seem that when he is focused well, and not an hot head, he can be elite. But when he come down like a prick attitude, he gets starched. I dont know, maybe it's just me

jimmie

09-09-2008, 11:46 PM

Jardine is a bizzare guy, he seem that when he is focused well, and not an hot head, he can be elite. But when he come down like a prick attitude, he gets starched. I dont know, maybe it's just me

Yup kinda like a white much uglier verison of Kevin Randleman. Im not a Jardine fan though but it seems though his struggles come agianst the agressive wild guys like Wanderlei and Houston Alexander so maybe he needs to stay away from them I honestly got him beating Brandon Vera.

Kairos

09-10-2008, 03:27 AM

Forrest Griffin is the biggest fraud in the UFC seeing as how he beat a hurt Shogun and got a gift decision against Rampage. Evans will easily beat him.

hopkinsfan07

09-10-2008, 08:23 AM

Forrest Griffin is the biggest fraud in the UFC seeing as how he beat a hurt Shogun and got a gift decision against Rampage. Evans will easily beat him.

agreed

berserkafied

09-10-2008, 08:35 AM

Evans UD

québecwarrior

09-10-2008, 08:37 AM

scurlaruntings

09-10-2008, 08:41 AM

The biggest fraud in UFC?
get the fuck out of here you dickhead.
yeah Shogun wasnt the same, so fuckin what, HE decided to fight and you all cocksucker you were still picking him to trash him. Tito was supposed to trash him too and he won a CLOSE decision. Rampage was supposed to make him his bitch and got beat fair and square.Okay skippy calm down. Tito won a close decision but Griffin beat Rampage fair and sqaure?!?! Ok buddy :roll:
Anyway lets keep things in perspective. Griffin has done tremendously well of late but we ALL know what the result of Rampage Vs Griffin 2 will be.

québecwarrior

09-10-2008, 09:02 AM

Okay skippy calm down. Tito won a close decision but Griffin beat Rampage fair and sqaure?!?! Ok buddy :roll:
Anyway lets keep things in perspective. Griffin has done tremendously well of late but we ALL know what the result of Rampage Vs Griffin 2 will be. that was close, but that was clear.

we all know what the result of Rampage vs Griffin 2 will be?:lol:
yeah sure
I guess you are gonna say that was an off night the fisrt fight for Rampage?
I am as calm down as you are when you are talking about Ricky Hatton:good

québecwarrior

09-10-2008, 09:16 AM

First round was all Forrest until he got nearly koed so for me that even the round
Second round was at least 10-8
The third round was close for Rampage
The fourth round could go either way
The fifth round was all Griffin because if you people didnt notice, Rampage, apart form a ocuple of punch there and there who landed, he got outworked

I don't know how it can't be fair and square.
It is as close as any fight can be, yeah, but Griffin did more, I want you to explain me how it aint fair and square. Maybe I just don't know that expression because i'm a french canadian?

YardApe123

09-10-2008, 02:41 PM

Evans is no amateur.He is underrated by too many people. I think he takes it.

Wilhelm

09-10-2008, 03:01 PM

Griffin is smart and disciplined and well rounded enough to win what will probably be a boring tactical fight. It always strikes me that Evans is content to wait around for a chance to win when his opponent makes a mistake and if his opponent never does that he'll coast to a three round loss.

Wilhelm

09-10-2008, 03:02 PM

Oh, and I suspect that Griffin is THRILLED to be taking this fight instead of Machida.

Tyga

09-10-2008, 04:30 PM

Evans by KO/TKO. Ala Jardine/Griffin.

Wilhelm

09-11-2008, 08:03 PM

Evans by KO/TKO. Ala Jardine/Griffin.

When has Evans ever come out that aggressive? Since the Jardine fight, Griffin has been a lot less reckless. This fight will look a lot more like Jardine/Liddell than it will Jardine/Griffin.

québecwarrior

09-11-2008, 08:06 PM

Tyga

09-11-2008, 08:06 PM

When has Evans ever come out that aggressive? Since the Jardine fight, Griffin has been a lot less reckless. This fight will look a lot more like Jardine/Liddell than it will Jardine/Griffin.

What is Griffin going to do, out-point Rashad to a decision? I don't see that happening. Forrest doesn't have to come out swinging like he did when he fought Bonnar the first time or Keith. Rashad has shown his one-punch KO power with Salmon and now Liddell. All it takes is one punch and Forrest will be out.

Hermit

09-11-2008, 09:38 PM

that was close, but that was clear.

I'll give you close. I don't know if I had a winner picked in that fight.

Wilhelm

09-12-2008, 06:24 PM

What is Griffin going to do, out-point Rashad to a decision? I don't see that happening. Forrest doesn't have to come out swinging like he did when he fought Bonnar the first time or Keith. Rashad has shown his one-punch KO power with Salmon and now Liddell. All it takes is one punch and Forrest will be out.

Griffin very patiently stuck to his plan and outpointed Rampage to a decision, and Evans just waits around the whole fight. I don't see Griffin allowing Evans to land a clean shot like the one that put Liddell out. I suspect he'll land his share of jabs because he's going to be quicker than Griffin, but not that looping right.

You make it sound like Evans is superhuman knockout machine when Bisping (who is MUCH smaller than Griffin) went the distance as have plenty of other guys.

Also, he knocked Salmon out with a kick that Griffin will NEVER leave himself open to.

Tyga

09-12-2008, 06:36 PM

Griffin very patiently stuck to his plan and outpointed Rampage to a decision, and Evans just waits around the whole fight. I don't see Griffin allowing Evans to land a clean shot like the one that put Liddell out. I suspect he'll land his share of jabs because he's going to be quicker than Griffin, but not that looping right.

You make it sound like Evans is superhuman knockout machine when Bisping (who is MUCH smaller than Griffin) went the distance as have plenty of other guys.

Also, he knocked Salmon out with a kick that Griffin will NEVER leave himself open to.

And you make it seem like you know Griffin's every move by saying he will never leave himself open to a head kick.

Bro, Forrest won that fight because Page was basically fighting on one leg. Griffin didn't do crap to Quinton besides landing those kicks early in the second round. But the point is that fight is over and done with. I'm not going to sit here and make excuses. Griffin won that fight.

But Rashad moves quicker than Rampage. You always see Evans moving his head and constantly moving around. Forrest is a slow dude, even you have to admit that. If this fight were to be a snooze fest, I'd take Rashad to win only because he's never loss.

Sundance

09-12-2008, 08:11 PM

Big win for Griffin.

québecwarrior

09-12-2008, 09:37 PM

And you make it seem like you know Griffin's every move by saying he will never leave himself open to a head kick.

Bro, Forrest won that fight because Page was basically fighting on one leg. Griffin didn't do crap to Quinton besides landing those kicks early in the second round. But the point is that fight is over and done with. I'm not going to sit here and make excuses. Griffin won that fight.

But Rashad moves quicker than Rampage. You always see Evans moving his head and constantly moving around. Forrest is a slow dude, even you have to admit that. If this fight were to be a snooze fest, I'd take Rashad to win only because he's never loss.
Forrest MADE him fight on one leg:good
you cant take that away from him

Sardu

09-12-2008, 10:58 PM

Forrest by split decision IMO.

Tyga

09-12-2008, 11:01 PM

Forrest MADE him fight on one leg:good
you cant take that away from him

Yeah, that's what I said. Did you read the entire paragraph?

Wige247

09-13-2008, 01:08 AM

Rashad Evans late TKO

thesandman51

09-13-2008, 06:24 AM

evans by ko.

thebrodstar

09-13-2008, 11:41 PM

Yup kinda like a white much uglier verison of Kevin Randleman. Im not a Jardine fan though but it seems though his struggles come agianst the agressive wild guys like Wanderlei and Houston Alexander so maybe he needs to stay away from them I honestly got him beating Brandon Vera.

ya Jardine is a tough horse to bet on, you never know how mentally prepared he is for a fight.

québecwarrior

11-12-2008, 10:18 PM

bump!

I'm getting more and more excited for this fight..
+ the winner is gonna fight who? the winner of Jackson vs W.Silva?

The 205 is just great in future fight

bigG

11-12-2008, 11:46 PM

grif. by decision...higher workrate and, as someone else said, he is just one tough sob to get a w against....does evans hit harder than rampage..??....cos grif. might have been shook but he took those punches..and prevailed.....

El Matador

11-13-2008, 12:29 AM

bump!

I'm getting more and more excited for this fight..
+ the winner is gonna fight who? the winner of Jackson vs W.Silva?

The 205 is just great in future fight
Just when you think the Light Heavyweight division couldn't get any better, it does.

I'm going to pick Rashad Evans, with caution. I'm almost always wrong with Forrest Griffin fights (when I pick him to lose, he wins, and vice versa). I like Evans stand up game, and he's a good wrestler to boot.

Evans, via stoppage, three rounds.

tri-pod

11-13-2008, 12:31 AM

ill give it to Griffin. he will out work Evans in a very long fight.

Blacc Jesus

11-13-2008, 01:11 AM

Evans by TKO in the 4th.

PUMPERG

11-13-2008, 01:52 AM

Rashad Got This. To Me Forest Ain't No Real Champ, Heart But Not A Champ.

Stoo

11-13-2008, 07:46 AM

Rashad Got This. To Me Forest Ain't No Real Champ, Heart But Not A Champ.

To me heart is the most important part of bein a champ

PUMPERG

11-13-2008, 12:19 PM

Heart Is Very Important, But When I Think Of A Champ, Forest Does Not Catch My Eye!! Maybe Cause I Aint A Fan Of Him.

PUMPERG

11-13-2008, 12:19 PM

Heart Is Very Important, But When I Think Of A Champ, Forest Does Not Catch My Eye!! Maybe Cause I Aint A Fan Of Him.

PUMPERG

11-13-2008, 12:19 PM

Heart Is Very Important, But When I Think Of A Champ, Forest Does Not Catch My Eye!! Maybe Cause I Aint A Fan Of Him.

PUMPERG

11-13-2008, 12:19 PM

Heart Is Very Important, But When I Think Of A Champ, Forest Does Not Catch My Eye!! Maybe Cause I Aint A Fan Of Him.

BewareofDawg

11-13-2008, 12:24 PM

I think Evans takes this one. Maybe by KO.

jimmie

11-13-2008, 03:18 PM

Evans best chance is to land a big shot on Forrest. Watching Forrest fights I noticed he doesnt do well punching on the inside watch the Jardine fight and Rampage fight and what happened to him there. Evans IMO has the power to stop him and do it brutally but after that I dont like his chances to be honest. Evans aside from his 2 highlight reel KOs has never impressed me standing even in those 2 fights he was passive as hell and didnt work very hard. Forrest Griffin will throw kicks and punches at a high volume and score them points whether then land or not. Then theres Evans Wrestling ability which is pretty good but Forrest has a good sprawl and a very underatted guard even if it does go the ground I cant imagine Evans doing much on the ground in this fight. So I got Forrest UD in a fight similar to the Bonnar rematch as Evans will probablly take more chances here then usual but it wont be enough unless he lures Forrest into punching inside and lands his vicious right hand.

TheBradyHawkes

11-13-2008, 03:51 PM

Evans by KO mid rounds

Beebs

11-13-2008, 07:42 PM

Rashad Got This. To Me Forest Ain't No Real Champ, Heart But Not A Champ.

He's got the belt, he beat the champion, he has the lineal championship, therefore he is the real champ, thats all there is to it.

Theres a lot of ways this fight can go, but I think Forrest wins most of the time.

Rashad's power is still a big question mark, obviously he has it, but in all of his fights before Chuck, he never really KO'd people with punches; his boxing technique and spacing are quite good, but he can also be pretty passive, which is a good way to lose to Forrest.

Rashad has great takedowns, but seems less apt to use them with each fight, using his wrestling more like Liddell does, to keep the fight standing, and to be honest I don't know if thats a good idea against Forrest or a bad one. Forrest has really improved the technique in his stand up, he has come along way in that area.

I just can't really get a feel for how this fight will go, on the ground Forrest is better, but can he get the takedown if he wants it? Will Rashad want the takedown? Is Rashad's power what we saw from him in the Liddell fight, or what weve seen in most of his other fights? Is Rashad's conditioning as good as Forrests?

All in all I think Forrest grinds out a win, probably late in the fight by either GnP or a sub, or a decision. Rashad by KO is a real possiblity too, but I just don't think he will get the chance to get planted and throw full force like he did against Liddell.

I wouldn't bet on the fight, but I would pick Forrest if there was a gun to my head.