Will Rey Bautista Beat Ponce DeLeon? [Archive]

Richel Hersisia

07-30-2007, 04:06 PM

his fight with medina was a great fight. but the fact that Bautista had many problems with him, worries me for next weeks fight.

I saw 2 fights of him in the philipinnes, he looked great there. But his defense is lacking.

Think de Leon will get this, but it will be a great fight, bautista can throw combinations

CASH_718

07-30-2007, 04:07 PM

I think De Leon takes him out. Medina had Bautista ready to go. If Medina can do that imagine what happens when Ponce connects.

LeedsLad

07-30-2007, 04:07 PM

I think its abit too early for Bautista, his fight with Medina was exciting but he had a lot of trouble and the ref did Bautista a big favour when he was seriously all over the place.

De Leon looked shit in his last fight too though, its a pick 'em fight, it could be whoever lands the first big punch.

jonesjrp4p1

07-30-2007, 04:08 PM

i seen batistas last fight and he did not impress me at all i think ponce deleon will beat him btw awesome avatar augustus

hooligan

07-30-2007, 04:08 PM

rey has killer offense...not too good on defense however...

boxbox

07-30-2007, 04:15 PM

but if bautista hits him he'll get in trouble too...rey hits a lot harder than penalosa and is a lot quicker too...no sure winner here

Illmatic

07-30-2007, 04:30 PM

bautista is a beast but if you just walk ahead and stay open against De Leon youre gonna get hurt

Brickhaus

07-30-2007, 04:39 PM

Bautista's being rushed into this one. Technically, he could improve on a lot, and I do expect him to be a champion someday, but not after this fight. Ponce De Leon KO 5.

PATSYS

07-30-2007, 04:53 PM

I've never seen Bautista but he's getting some hype. Anyone have some knowledge on this kid? Can he stop DeLeon or is he overrated?

Bautista is a bit overrated IMO but De Leon is more overrated so Bautista can win, yes.

HandsOfGold

07-30-2007, 07:49 PM

Ponce De Leon is taking everything from anyone. Bautista I don't think can.

david6w

07-30-2007, 08:41 PM

Bautista's defense is lacking.

theunderdog

07-30-2007, 08:48 PM

hiw jaw id a questions mark. he's been dropped already by fighters with ok power and we all know that de leon has more than average power

PacDbest

07-30-2007, 08:52 PM

Bautista is good, has some Flaws, But if you compare Ponce & BOom-Boom, BB has more potential. All Ponce has is his Power. BB has that too, He already shows his heart for the 2 fights he was Knockdown, BB has the best trainer & Manager. All points to BB, Maybe by UD, but I rather see a KO.

By the way, Penalosa beat Ponce in my Book, that was a Masterpiece by Gerry. Compubox is Flawed, you shound't count Punches that was landed in the Gloves & Elbow or Blocked. It should count only the Hurting or The Effective Punches.

theunderdog

07-30-2007, 09:14 PM

BOGART

07-30-2007, 10:46 PM

Whoever wins, this should be a good fight. I've only seen the one fight of Bautista so I'm not positive what he brings. From the fight I saw against Medina I'd pick DeLeon. Bautista is just too hittable for a guy who throws a lot of heavy punches like DeLeon. If there's more to him than the Medina fight than it could be a different story because it's a close fight as is. But I suspect the lack of defense and possilby being put in too deep too soon will spell big trouble for Bautista.

psychopath

07-30-2007, 11:50 PM

I've never seen Bautista but he's getting some hype. Anyone have some knowledge on this kid? Can he stop DeLeon or is he overrated?

Bautista has some pop in his punches. Can he stop De leon? If he hits De Leon with a solid shot I think he can . . . and I'm fucki'n praying for it.:yep After the "injustice" they have done to Gerry Penaloza, I'm praying that the other filipino exact vengeance on him.

theunderdog

07-31-2007, 12:21 AM

Not as much as Ponces

it could be argued that boomboom may have better defense that de leon but the latter's chin makes up for what defense he's lacking. boomboom on the other hand has been dropped by average fighters.

LeonardLeroy

07-31-2007, 12:27 AM

I think Bautista will take it. I've haven't seen him take so many hits in than he did in the Medina fight. He opened up a lot more recklessly than usual. I think he was trying hard to put on a show being on the undercard of DLH-Mayweather. Normally he isn't so reckless and is more precise with picking his shots.

Medina also proved surprisingly resilient --- Bautista was landing really well in the body. And although there were no immediate effects, it won Bautista the fight as the last rounds showed a tired and weary Medina.

After watching De Leon embarrass himself against Penelosa, even being chased in the last round, I think Bautista will take it.

theunderdog

07-31-2007, 12:36 AM

Can you name who these fighters are, underdog? The guy is undefeated but I haven't seen gone down in his fights. He was tagged by Medina but not knocked down.

dude. are you even serious? boomboom was given an 8 count on the medina match because the ropes were the only thing preventing a kd. if he wasn't given the count, there was a total possibility that he would have been tko'd. therfore, he was kd by medina and not just "tagged" as you claim to be. and he also was knocked down by gerardo espinoza early in their fight. either round 2 or 3. i don't remember.

you're ignorance never ceases to amaze

theunderdog

07-31-2007, 12:37 AM

ahh for once you got something right, arguably PDL does have a better chin..

Boy but those wide slow looping punches...against a slickster like BB

just a bad formula for Ponce

so you think boomboom will win?

theunderdog

07-31-2007, 12:42 AM

Yes, its biology 101

what's you prediction? ko? ud?

theunderdog

07-31-2007, 12:49 AM

I am just asking you a question and you said a mouthful. Anyway, BoomBoom eventually came out the winner, so what's your point? You should remember that this boy is only 20 or 21. For Christ's sake. His bones haven't developed yet. Give him time to toughen up and Boom Boom will intimidate all the other boxers in his division and even in higher division.

you're really a retard. i know that boomboom won, maggot. i'm not as stupid as you. my point from the very start was that boomboom's chin is questionable. i said a mouthful to educate your sorry ass.

theunderdog

07-31-2007, 01:01 AM

Id say decision, Ponces got a hard head and BB punches hard but not that hard.

See how honest I am.

But Wide looping punch and short hook by Boom Boom and you'll never knwo.

I see a similar fight to Donaire/Darch except that Ponces no bum

fair enough

theunderdog

07-31-2007, 01:09 AM

de leon cannot perform like how he did against old man gerry and expect to win. he just can't afford to do that against a young opponent

Lance_Uppercut

07-31-2007, 01:23 AM

Ponce de leon looked sloppy as hell the last time I saw him. But I reckon he should win a pretty good fight.

SugarShane_24

07-31-2007, 05:51 AM

I really believe bautista is still way over his head on this one. De leon too strong and seems too big. Hope I'm wrong but de leon by decision or late tko.

Bangis

07-31-2007, 06:08 AM

theHawtness

07-31-2007, 06:31 AM

i hope boomboom wins... but i think hes a bit being rushed here... a couple of more figths would've done him good... his chin is still suspect and i am hoping it can withstand de leons power, which is the only thing ponce has.
i agree. for christ sake he's just 21. his muscles are not even developed yet. i just hope he doesn't become another vargas.:verysad

nighthunter

07-31-2007, 07:16 AM

In fairness, if Ponce connects flush, its night night for rey:good

I cant wait to see this fight and I will bet for Rey :bbb let see...:happy

nighthunter

07-31-2007, 07:21 AM

i hope boomboom wins... but i think hes a bit being rushed here... a couple of more figths would've done him good... his chin is still suspect and i am hoping it can withstand de leons power, which is the only thing ponce has.

Just like what they predict about manny when he beat MAB he question his ability to take the punch. lets give this kid a chance to prove that he can. I think he can if he fight smart and carefully pick his punches.
:rasta

Ambition_Def

07-31-2007, 07:42 AM

This is a tough fight for me to make a prediction but I'm gonna go with De Leon's workrate and strength over Bautista's skill.

emanuel_augustus

07-31-2007, 11:28 AM

The more I look at it, the more I think DeLeon has the advantage. If Bautista doesn't hurt him early, he could be in for a long night.

theunderdog

07-31-2007, 09:54 PM

that shit looks scary. but boomboom is no pushover. i won't be suprised if both fighters taste the canvass on this one

myk

07-31-2007, 10:07 PM

I hope Bautista wins

ekar

08-01-2007, 12:16 AM

I saw Batista get drop by Gerardo Espinoza. One thing he has it heart. But Ponce has a diffferent kind of punching power. One think Batista needs to learn it to clinch when he's hurt, because I deffently seeing him down at least once in this fight. Batista those have some good fundamentals and balance. If he hit Ponce with some of the flush shot that Penalosa landed, he will ko Ponce. But he's not as skilled as a Penolosa. I say Ponce by Ko within six.

Galaxy

08-01-2007, 12:43 AM

Bautista-Deleon 50-50 fight
booms a better fighter but has suspect chin
Gonzales-Penalosa 75-25
jhonny is too long, big and great outside boxer, he'll keep penalosa at a distance like he did to Israel.

brooklyn1550

08-01-2007, 01:14 AM

The more and more I watch the two fighters, I think Ponce De Leon will win. His workrate, size, and power will trouble Bautista who may be stepping it up too early. I'm not yet sold on Bautista and I'm not so sure his chin will hold up under the Ponce De Leon onslaught. Ponce De Leon by stoppage is my pick.

CASH_718

08-01-2007, 01:35 AM

Ponce BY KO, Penalosa by SD

Sister Sledge

08-01-2007, 08:05 AM

Bautista is a good prospect, but he doesn't seem to have a great chin, and he don't look too good when he's hurt. Ponce is crude, but he has true one punch KO power. Bautista throws a lot of punches, and he's gonna have to to keep De Leon off of him. He Rey has some power, but I don't think he has enought to know Daniel out. I think Bautista will be chopped down by the 5th or 6th round.

Sug3

08-01-2007, 08:17 AM

This fight could possibly be fight of the year,i'm going with bautista,because he's the overall better fighter,this fight may end up looking like larios vs linares.i got bautista by ud or late tko.

etong_08

08-01-2007, 09:03 AM

Bautista's defense is lacking.

So is De Leon's. I think it's just a matter of who could connect first. I've seen De Leon's fight against Peñalosa and I wasn't so impressed with his performance that night. I won't even be surprised if Peñalosa steal that fight from him. I think Bautista is ready and this fight will be just as unpredictable. :good

knockout

08-01-2007, 09:37 AM

Well i hope Beutista wins this one if Gerry had Leon in troble think how rey is gonna do,hes even better skill wise,well if hes gonna win i think he has to box and counter punch him.But i do hope i can witness Leon gettin "KNOCK THE FUCK OUT!":yep :smoke

hooligan

08-01-2007, 09:59 AM

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daayym he's got the worst tattoos i've seen in a boxer...almost comical

anyway its a pick'em fight...either one could get ko'd...

Morrissey

08-01-2007, 11:07 AM

De Leon is bigger and more powerful.

boxbox

08-01-2007, 12:05 PM

de leon has the advantages..but i'll support boom2x

damian5000

08-10-2007, 08:39 PM

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De Leon is going to get counter punched all night. Roach for sure has smartened him up since his last fight with Medina.

juancho214

08-10-2007, 10:16 PM

I have heard good things about him, did anyone see his fight at Sergio Manuel Medina?

yes and he was in trouble,and Medina isn't a heavy hitter like Ponce De Leon,even though pdl sucks i say he wins by ko

Carlos Primera

08-10-2007, 11:36 PM

i'm thinking this is 50/50, but might lean on bautista. good power and technically sound compared to de leon.

HandsOfGold

08-10-2007, 11:51 PM

Ponce De Leon can take big shots from anybody. He's just waaay too strong at that weight class. Bautista will probably be KO'ed.

emanuel_augustus

08-10-2007, 11:53 PM

I'm stoked for this fight tomorrow. Should be awesome.

Antwuan Maxx

08-11-2007, 12:01 AM

I can see Ponce getting outboxed early, and stopping Bautista brutally while he's behind on all cards.

jopez707

08-11-2007, 12:25 AM

I think this fight will come down to who has the better chin and stamina, it seems both have pretty good stamina. But De Leon's chin has to be considered much better, Bautista was on queer street against Medina, and his recovery time wasnt that good. IF De Leon gets Bautista on queer street than "BOOM BOOM" will go "NIGHT NIGHT"...lol.

enzo

08-11-2007, 12:28 AM

There will be a lot of surprises on this fight...

enzo

08-11-2007, 02:16 AM

golota looks like a retard in your avatar. :yep

enzo

08-11-2007, 02:35 AM

Yep, he's like the heavy wieght version of boby Pacquiao. he should have retired already he does look old and again retarded.

Chileno606

08-11-2007, 02:41 AM

Bautista fights in almost the exact same style as Czar Amonsot. When I watched the Amonsot-Katsidis fight, I actually thought it was Bautista in there, they're like twins and fight in a similar style :yep . That being said, I think Bautista should win this fight, but De Leon is very live and has a decent chance also. Bautista is green, but he has plenty of tools to work with.

hellblazer

08-11-2007, 02:48 AM

I'm rooting for Boom2x to win. God bless Rey Bautista.

BobDigi5060

08-11-2007, 02:51 AM

Bautista almost got stopped in the last fight after almost finishing the guy off earlier. He sucks and will lose.

knockout

08-11-2007, 05:23 AM

Surely hes better skill wise as long as he dont get reckless he has a very good chance. i give him 60/50 chance for Beutista.

huki

08-11-2007, 05:33 AM

PacDbest

08-11-2007, 11:40 AM

I think that Ponce De Leon will connect a punch to Bautista's chin and he will go down. Repeat 2-3 times because of Bautista's heart and the result will be KO5. Simple as that. I don't know what Bautista's team was thinking putting him in with a huge puncher so fast.

I only see Ponce's Chance as by Lucky punch KO. All points to Bautista. He has the best trainer, Best Promoter, Best Mngr. He spars with Penalosa who In my book beat Ponce. Recently seen Ponce, Bautista & the guy who schooled Ponce, Caballero. If a little guy Penalosa & the skinny guy Caballero schooled Ponce, What more can a Bigger, Devastating puncher like Bautista can do????

koko of phil

08-11-2007, 11:50 AM

De Leon is good but Bautista has a chance.

nrgetic

08-11-2007, 11:56 AM

PDL throws wild punches whereas Bautista punches are much better measured. If this is a boxing match then Bautista will win but if his defence slips with any degree of frequency then PDL will catch him and PDL most certainly has the power to KO Bautista so this is a great fight. 50:50 in my book

Zakman

08-11-2007, 12:15 PM

No, he will not.

ko factor

08-11-2007, 01:11 PM

Bautista if his chin holds.

nervousxtian

08-11-2007, 01:19 PM

Ponce will give anybody hell, despite his flaws, he's just a tough all out kind of guy. Good chin to boot.

I see him outlasting Bautista and winning by TKO mid-to-late.

SevenSamurai

08-11-2007, 01:24 PM

DeLeon UD by 4 points +

SevenSamurai

08-11-2007, 01:31 PM

450 vcash on deLeon. I know this is a close fight, but I think DeLeon has the natural advantages, stamina and experience to put Bautista through hell.

PacDbest

08-11-2007, 01:34 PM

Bautista was rocked by a KO artist & an undefeated fighter & Never run & keeps hunting.

Ponce was Rocked by a Little guy & Run away.

SevenSamurai

08-11-2007, 01:56 PM

Bautista was rocked by a KO artist & an undefeated fighter & Never run & keeps hunting.

Ponce was Rocked by a Little guy & Run away.

Why am I not surprised that you are dissing DeLeon and bigging up Bautista?...........................................................................

maybe because Pac is your boy and Bautista is another Phillipinno?

Mexican fighters KO Phillipinnos.:bbb

PacDbest

08-11-2007, 02:26 PM

Why am I not surprised that you are dissing DeLeon and bigging up Bautista?...........................................................................

maybe because Pac is your boy and Bautista is another Phillipinno?

Mexican fighters KO Phillipinnos.:bbb

I didn't give Amonsot a Chance against Katsidis. Nor Domingo tonight. Those are Filipino I didn't pick.

reed_man02

08-11-2007, 02:45 PM

Filipinos. Remember this word. :deal
yes, we will be laughing at them later on tonight.:yep

kg0208

08-11-2007, 02:55 PM

I have never seen De Leon fight....so I reserve any prediction. Bautista showed alot of heart in his last fight though.

Hitman

08-11-2007, 03:17 PM

bump

Sonny Carson

08-11-2007, 03:34 PM

[quote=PacDbest]Bautista was rocked by a KO artist & an undefeated fighter & Never run & keeps hunting.
quote]
Medina was not a KO Artist.

jopez707

08-11-2007, 04:30 PM

That is, if you can shed off your reputation as my whipping boy. The Mexicans has been falling one by one, from Morales, Arce, Rafa Marquez to Castillo, etc.. The results of World Cup would not be any different.:lol::lol::lol:

All of these Mexicans have been losing to other Mexicans (with the exception of Castillo)! :patsch Morales to David Diaz (mexican-American) Rafa Marquez to Israel Vasquez (Mexican from same city, Mexico D.F.) and Arce to Christian Mijares (Mexican). Its not like they have been losing to Filipino fighters. In fact two good Filipino lost recently, the one against Ulises Solis and Amonsot against Katsidis.:hi:

Dorfmeister

08-11-2007, 06:16 PM

Following the Ponce De Leon-Gerry Penalosa fight blueprint, it may be a case for Ponce De leon doubling Bautista's output or a case for Bautista doubling De Leon's effectiveness. If the Tarahumara large-shouldered Indian Mexican hurries out into action, swinging hard with his endless supply of batteries and freakish punch output but leaves himself open to get pop shot in between his shoulders and arms like happened in rounds 1 to 3 against Penalosa, he will be had. If the Filipino young gun and Manny Pacquiao heir apparent goes straight at a somber De Leon, using leg movement, closing the distance, getting off and circumventing his more unexperienced opponent like he did against Penalosa from the 6th round on to win a lopsided decision, the WBO/IBA Light-Feather titlist can even catch Boom Boom on the way in like Medina did in the 7th ( when Robert Byrd saved him with a standing 8 count which was not in effect). Great Fight in prospect!

Morrissey

08-11-2007, 08:50 PM

I just hope Bautista will recover fast after this fight.

Ponce De Leon is a much harder puncher, aggressive and looks tough.

I don't think Bautista can outbox him. He will probably be engaged in a slugfest with De Leon, and that would be it for him.

If he fight smart, boxes him off, have patience in shooting his haymakers accurately, he will have a good chance.

If not, it will be a De Leon party.

CASH_718

08-11-2007, 11:04 PM

I think De Leon takes him out. Medina had Bautista ready to go. If Medina can do that imagine what happens when Ponce connects.:yep

Willy Bonka

08-11-2007, 11:04 PM

NO, ...He was just TKO'd by Ponce DeLeon in RD1!

Morrissey

08-11-2007, 11:14 PM

BobDigi5060

08-12-2007, 12:44 AM

Let's see. Boom Boom is young and he must have learned his lessons by improving his defence. But pound for pound, he can beat the hell out of Ponce De Leon. If looks can kill, PDL is it. :D

:hi:

emanuel_augustus

08-12-2007, 12:53 AM

Guess he won't!

theunderdog

08-12-2007, 12:53 AM

yeah. boomboom, please go work on some defense now. i know he'll be back soon. but gorres fought nicely on that one. the best thing that happend to the philippines in the world cup is that z's would be opponent backed out. i picked z over guerrero but i thought that ortiz would be too crafty for banal. but when ortiz was picked for gorres, those were two suire wins for the philippines

ko factor

08-12-2007, 01:17 AM

Like I said in my previous post whoever lands that 1st big bomb then it's over... What an impressive 1st round knockout for Ponce. I thought Boom2X would last a little longer let's say until round 4 then BAM! He got BOOMED.

brooklyn1550

08-12-2007, 01:20 AM

Well, it was a mismatch tonight.

Amsterdam

08-12-2007, 01:28 AM

Well, it was a mismatch tonight.

That was pretty evident on paper to be honest, I don't know what anyone saw in this kid...

huki

08-12-2007, 06:25 AM

I think that Ponce De Leon will connect a punch to Bautista's chin and he will go down. Repeat 2-3 times because of Bautista's heart and the result will be KO5. Simple as that. I don't know what Bautista's team was thinking putting him in with a huge puncher so fast.
Simple as that. A punch hit him right on the chin and down he went. If the ref let him get up he would fall down for the third time. Really, what the hell was Bautista's team thinking? They could have milked him some more and hyped him up for another year to earn some money at least. Now he just got knocked out in 1 round on BAD and there are no excuses except for the sad fact that he has a horrible chin.