MMA reminds me of...

[Coogee2034]

boxing in the 30's 40's etc

now dont jump down my throat on this cause i'm not the biggest MMA fan but it seems to me mma fighters can have pretty poor records atleast by modern day boxing standards n still b considered top level fighters and or get title shots


any thoughts?

[Tencount85]

A lot have poor records because the best fight the best. It's not like boxing where it takes years to see a fight like Cotto Margarito happen.

[fidds]

~Its the same with thai boxing you can have defeats dosent mean the end of the road

[yodaddyboxing]

A lot have poor records because the best fight the best. It's not like boxing where it takes years to see a fight like Cotto Margarito happen.

and this is why... you rarely see " tune ups "

[rapidHOOK]

yeah i seen the contender mauy tai and there was a guy on there that was wbc mauy tai champion he had 60 odd losses (150 odd wins) i think his name was yodsinkly or something,
you will not see something like that in boxing these days

[Marnoff]

It's also newer, so not as much depth. Eventually I would expect it to play out the way Boxing has, as more money pours in and new sanctioning bodies spring up.

[Hatesrats]

It's the "New" Toughman contest....

[Titomahawk]

I don't like MMA. I think i find it too violent (i know boxing is...) Hitting a guy on the ground after you just knocked him out, i don't know. BUt, i have to say that losing your "0" doesnt mean that much is pretty cool.

[Boogytonice]

Expectations are higher for boxers now

[Goggz]

dogfighting might as well be legal and televised if ufc is

[saturday_kid]

I don't like MMA. I think i find it too violent (i know boxing is...) Hitting a guy on the ground after you just knocked him out, i don't know. BUt, i have to say that losing your "0" doesnt mean that much is pretty cool.

Agree with that post entirely. I'm not an MMA fan, something about just kicking and punching and hitting when your opponents on the floor, to me Boxing's more of a science (i'm not saying MMA isn't skilled before any MMA fans jump down my throat, just not for me).

Your right though 1 of the main things ruining boxing is the whole keeping the "0".

[yodaddyboxing]

It's the "New" Toughman contest....

Dela hoya wouldnt be alowed to fight Pacman in MMA.thats a joke..

[Hatesrats]

MMA is anything but violent in 08'...lol
The fight's are very safe, and are 9 out 10 times stopped way too soon.

It's got the rep of being violent from it's root's in the first UFC show's....
(During the Gracie era, No weight class, No holdes barred....except Hair & eyes)

[Hatesrats]

Dela hoya wouldnt be alowed to fight Pacman in MMA.thats a joke..There is no De La Hoya or Pacquiao = in MMA :deal

[Titomahawk]

Agree with that post entirely. I'm not an MMA fan, something about just kicking and punching and hitting when your opponents on the floor, to me Boxing's more of a science (i'm not saying MMA isn't skilled before any MMA fans jump down my throat, just not for me).

Your right though 1 of the main things ruining boxing is the whole keeping the "0".

There was a televised debate last week here in Montreal. The MMA guy was saying boxing was more violent because of the 8 count wich doesnt exist in MMA. But, i saw so many MMA fights where one guy is totally knocked out with a punch, fall down, and then the other guy jumps on him and throws 3 punches to a dead corpse....:huh

[yodaddyboxing]

There is no De La Hoya or Pacquiao = in MMA :deal

yeap, no part time promter fighters ,selling record number PPV..who have lost every big fight he has been in yet, PPV costs go up. :lol:

UFC sells pretty good with out HBO, belive that.. wait til HBO picks them up...

no more mariachi bands :lol:

[fidds]

yeah i seen the contender mauy tai and there was a guy on there that was wbc mauy tai champion he had 60 odd losses (150 odd wins) i think his name was yodsinkly or something,
you will not see something like that in boxing these days

Yeah and he is p4p best in the world

[Ted Spoon]

There are many more ways to lose in MMA, which helps the '0's' go.

[Titomahawk]

There are many more ways to lose in MMA, which helps the '0's' go.

Good point.

[Jacko]

I watch a bit of MMA but much prefer boxing. However MMA has much better competitive match ups. The best always fight the best.

It appears to me that over the last few years we are seeing better match ups in boxing. I wonder if boxing promoters realised the threat from MMA fan wise (fans getting bored of crap boxing match ups) and that is the reason for the increased number of competitive boxing matches.

[yodaddyboxing]

MMA/UFC reminds me of a Tough Guy competition taken to a semi-professional level.

thats a very ignorant statement.. as a fellow boxing fan Im embarrassed you would make such a statement :patsch

[kgs83]

A lot have poor records because the best fight the best. It's not like boxing where it takes years to see a fight like Cotto Margarito happen.

Totally agree, boxing has this stupid notion that being unbeaten is a great or only 1/2 losses is a good thing. That is only true when the boxer has fought many a good oppenent.

But in reality that never happens and when a boxer does lose everyone says his career is over....OVER ONE LOSS!

MMA you can lose and still get respect.....WHY??......because the best fight the best and both fighters are given credit for just stepping into the ring to put it all on the line. That gets my respect also and whoever losses, i know they lost to a v.good fighter.

If boxers fought at least 3 times a year and fought the best they would attain the same respect. Sadly they don't which is why boxing has been in the decline. We saw what happened in 2007 and early 08 when good match-ups were made.

[yodaddyboxing]

Totally agree, boxing has this stupid notion that being unbeaten is a great or only 1/2 losses is a good thing. That is only true when the boxer has fought many a good oppenent.

But in reality that never happens and when a boxer does lose everyone says his career is over....OVER ONE LOSS!

MMA you can lose and still get respect.....WHY??......because the best fight the best and both fighters are given credit for just stepping into the ring to put it all on the line. That gets my respect also and whoever losses, i know they lost to a v.good fighter.

If boxers fought at least 3 times a year and fought the best they would attain the same respect. Sadly they don't which is why boxing has been in the decline. We saw what happened in 2007 and early 08 when good match-ups were made.

very factual post..

the boxing fans who make ignorant statements about MMA have no idea what they are talking about.

Also..MMA fighters are so well rounded its rediculous ...to knock them is ignorant.

I would rather fighter a pro boxer in a street fight then a MMA fighter..

[Jack Presscot]

boxing in the 30's 40's etc

now dont jump down my throat on this cause i'm not the biggest MMA fan but it seems to me mma fighters can have pretty poor records atleast by modern day boxing standards n still b considered top level fighters and or get title shots


any thoughts?It reminds me of Beware of Dawg and Te Tumbo on their first date.

[Hatesrats]

I would rather fighter a pro boxer in a street fight then a MMA fighter..
Good luck with that one.

[Tyga]

MMA fighters that are "good" will fight the best quickly. There are no tune-up fights in Mixed Martial Arts. Just take a look at Cain Velasquez. He's 3-0 I believe and he's already in contention for the UFC HW title.

[RealIzm]

The best MMA fights are toe to toe brawls, which don't happen often enough to hold my interest. Aside from that MMA is holding, hugging, and choking. Which in my opinion is reserved for gay high school wrestlers.
MMA fighters posses about a fraction of the skill boxers do with their fists, which is all I care about.

[Tyga]

MMA is holding, hugging, and choking. Which in my opinion is reserved for gay high school wrestlers.
MMA fighters posses about a fraction of the skill boxers do with their fists

You have the right to your opinion, but I totally disagree.

[Sweet Pea]

A lot have poor records because the best fight the best. It's not like boxing where it takes years to see a fight like Cotto Margarito happen.Bingo. Lots of clueless retards in this thread.

[yodaddyboxing]

Bingo. Lots of clueless retards in this thread.

Realizm being one :good

[natonic]

a monkey fucking a football

[bernie4366]

There was a televised debate last week here in Montreal. The MMA guy was saying boxing was more violent because of the 8 count wich doesnt exist in MMA. But, i saw so many MMA fights where one guy is totally knocked out with a punch, fall down, and then the other guy jumps on him and throws 3 punches to a dead corpse....:huh

It's not those few shots you take for the flashy KO mma-style that hurt you long term. It's the HUNDREDS of shots you take from gloved hands that DON'T knock you out in the ring.

I'm a boxing fan first and foremost, but there is absolutely no question that boxing is the far more dangerous sport. Very few boxers come out whole and unhurt at the end of their career.

[bernie4366]

Also when you're talking about zeroes on the record, keep in mind that in MMA anyone can get caught by anybody else. All it takes is one minor mistake to get caught up in a submission, and it only takes one shot from an ungloved hand to go to sleep. Very very VERY difficult to stay undefeated in MMA, you don't have any margin for error.

[Titomahawk]

It's not those few shots you take for the flashy KO mma-style that hurt you long term. It's the HUNDREDS of shots you take from gloved hands that DON'T knock you out in the ring.

I'm a boxing fan first and foremost, but there is absolutely no question that boxing is the far more dangerous sport. Very few boxers come out whole and unhurt at the end of their career.

ALright. BUt what about those ungloved hands shots that dont knock you out?
ANyway, you have a good point. SInce MMA is not just hitting the head.

[bernie4366]

ALright. BUt what about those ungloved hands shots that dont knock you out?
ANyway, you have a good point. SInce MMA is not just hitting the head.

Maybe those multiple ungloved shots would be a worry for Cabbage, but that's about it. Nobody else can take too many of them.

[RealIzm]

Realizm being one :goodI'm a BOXING fan with an opinion like everyone else. Don't know why you've got such a hardon for me. WHy? Because I have an opinion like everyone else? You know I could go back through all of your posts and rip you to fucking shreds but I'm better than that, and despite your out of nowhere attack on me, I've enjoyed our discussions in the past.....People who make silly and ignorant attacks like that are either young and immature or simply lack boxing knowledge

Kindfully yours
Jason

[eze]

Dela hoya wouldnt be alowed to fight Pacman in MMA.thats a joke..


Yea he would...

[RealIzm]

You have the right to your opinion, but I totally disagree.A mindful poster with an IQ over 30:happy Thats partly why I'm here Tyga, I'm a boxing fan. Despite being involved with martial arts in the past, in my humble opinion it cant hold a candle to boxing, for a myrad of reasons.

[eze]

There is no De La Hoya or Pacquiao = in MMA :deal

BJ Penn can be considered the Pacquaio of MMA. He'll move up to anyweight to fight whomever.

[yodaddyboxing]

I'm a BOXING fan with an opinion like everyone else. Don't know why you've got such a hardon for me. WHy? Because I have an opinion like everyone else? You know I could go back through all of your posts and rip you to fucking shreds but I'm better than that, and despite your out of nowhere attack on me, I've enjoyed our discussions in the past.....People who make silly and ignorant attacks like that are either young and immature or simply lack boxing knowledge

Kindfully yours
Jason

Jason, im so sorry if I offened you . Really.. I didnt know it was that serious. I will refrain from making comments like " realizm being one of them :good "

I didnt know it would really bother you like this. I too have enjoyed our conversations in the past ..Im sorry I made a "silly and ignorant ATTACK" like that. I guess I am a little immature. I need to work on that .

I sincerely aplogize
Yodaddy ( not your daddy, its just my name)

[yodaddyboxing]

Being embarrassed doesn't change the nature of facts.
Face it, in 1 year the UFC will be dominated by a few indivduals like Silva and Evans simply because the majority of them are just tough guy level competition.

give me an example of someone n the UFC that is "tough guy" level competition.

[eze]

The best MMA fights are toe to toe brawls, which don't happen often enough to hold my interest. Aside from that MMA is holding, hugging, and choking. Which in my opinion is reserved for gay high school wrestlers.
MMA fighters posses about a fraction of the skill boxers do with their fists, which is all I care about.

That's why boxing is boxing and MMA is MMA.

An MMA fighter has to look out for kicks, takedowns and punches, while a boxer is merely protecting himself from punches. Striking is going to be completely different.

[Tyga]

A mindful poster with an IQ over 30:happy Thats partly why I'm here Tyga, I'm a boxing fan. Despite being involved with martial arts in the past, in my humble opinion it cant hold a candle to boxing, for a myrad of reasons.

Well I've been training MMA off and on for about a year. And I'm planning on transitioning to Boxing in the next week.

What exactly do you mean by saying MMA can't hold a candle to Boxing?

[RealIzm]

Jason, im so sorry if I offened you . Really.. I didnt know it was that serious. I will refrain from making comments like " realizm being one of them :good "

I didnt know it would really bother you like this. I too have enjoyed our conversations in the past ..Im sorry I made a "silly and ignorant ATTACK" like that. I guess I am a little immature. I need to work on that .

I sincerely aplogize
Yodaddy ( not your daddy, its just my name):lol: Its really not that serious yodaddy however its these types of things that actually hinder actual boxing discussion whether humorous or serious nobody cares to be attacked for their opinion. Do you? Infact I rather enjoy dicussion with posters that have an outlook much different from my own for many reasons......On to the thread topic:)

Boxing rules and MMA will always be the red headed stepchild in the world of fighting sports, only followed by folks that just got out of the WWE phase

Kindfully yours
Jason

[yodaddyboxing]

:lol: Its really not that serious yodaddy however its these types of things that actually hinder actual boxing discussion whether humorous or serious nobody cares to be attacked for their opinion. Do you? Infact I rather enjoy dicussion with posters that have an outlook much different from my own for many reasons......On to the thread topic:)

Boxing rules and MMA will always be the red headed stepchild in the world of fighting sports, only followed by folks that just got out of the WWE phase

Kindfully yours
Jason

your opinion is already wrong.. MMA is slowly getting more coverage then boxing..

[yodaddyboxing]

give me an example of someone n the UFC that is "tough guy" level competition.

keep researching :lol:

[RealIzm]

Well I've been training MMA off and on for about a year. And I'm planning on transitioning to Boxing in the next week.

What exactly do you mean by saying MMA can't hold a candle to Boxing?All I'm saying Tyga is is that boxing is a more masterful sport with 10 times more depth than MMA

On side note MMA is a more complete, and versatile combat sport. However in my opinion this merely leads to fighters that are about average at best in each one, hence the 1 or 2 standouts that can execute more than one style above average

Boxing on the other hand is the art of fistfighting, and is able to be honed through years of practice, which in part is why there are many elite boxers, which all go about their craft in a somewhat different albeit effective manner

[freddy-wak]

boxing in the 30's 40's etc

now dont jump down my throat on this cause i'm not the biggest MMA fan but it seems to me mma fighters can have pretty poor records atleast by modern day boxing standards n still b considered top level fighters and or get title shots


any thoughts?

how fucken old are you

[RealIzm]

your opinion is already wrong.. MMA is slowly getting more coverage then boxing..Yodaddy I regret to inform you that infact my opinion is only that, despite the fact that I may disagree with you it doesnt make me or you "wrong". Aside from this, "coverage" by the media means nothing at all when forming an opinion....By your logic WWE would be superior to them all

[Tyga]

All I'm saying Tyga is is that boxing is a more masterful sport with 10 times more depth than MMA

On side note MMA is a more complete, and versatile combat sport. However in my opinion this merely leads to fighters that are about average at best in each one, hence the 1 or 2 standouts that can execute more than one style above average

Boxing on the other hand is the art of fistfighting, and is able to be honed through years of practice, which in part is why there are many elite boxers, which all go about their craft in a somewhat different albeit effective manner

Well I agree with you there. A MMA practitioner has to train multiple Martial Arts. While a Boxer only needs to focus on one.

[RealIzm]

Well I agree with you there. A MMA practitioner has to train multiple Martial Arts. While a Boxer only needs to focus on one.Thats partly my point but is mainly why I love boxing and will watch MMA if its on. I do respect MMA, it's just not as aesthetically pleasing to me for the reasons stated earlier

Good luck with boxing bro:good

[Tyga]

Thats partly my point but is mainly why I love boxing and will watch MMA if its on. I do respect MMA, it's just not as aesthetically pleasing to me for the reasons stated earlier

Good luck with boxing bro:good

Thanks. I'll keep everybody updated on my training in the Training Forum.

[Rocky2k5]

I think they dont fight tune ups b.c no one would. They make very little money for championship fights or title eliminators. I cant imagine what UFC would dish out for a tune up.

[Pimp C]

MMA is trash end of thread.

[Sweet Pea]

No "research" needed. All one need do is watch one of the UFC series.

For example, I always knew Evans would cream Liddell. I think they knew it also and why it took so long to match. :yepThe lack of intelligence in this post is one of the main reasons this site disinterests me nowadays.

[yodaddyboxing]

No "research" needed. All one need do is watch one of the UFC series.

For example, I always knew Evans would cream Liddell. I think they knew it also and why it took so long to match. :yep

LMAO...:lol:

so LiDELL is just a "tough guy " compettition fighter?

Lidell is 38 thats why he got creamed.....

Chuck studied Karate since he was a kid
.
HE also wrestled division 1 in college...

he also has trained Jiu Jitsu for 15 years or so..

Evans was a collge wrestler also..

[yodaddyboxing]

The lack of intelligence in this post is one of the main reasons this site disinterests me nowadays.
i dont blame you sweet ..

[ChapstickMan]

very factual post..

the boxing fans who make ignorant statements about MMA have no idea what they are talking about.

Also..MMA fighters are so well rounded its rediculous ...to knock them is ignorant.

I would rather fighter a pro boxer in a street fight then a MMA fighter..

I think the comparison of MMA to boxing for streetfighting is pointless. It's still a sport that has rules, a referee, a ring, and rounds. The point of MMA isn't for streetfighting at least not anymore. Reality Martial Arts like Krav Maga, Kenpo, and Keysi are meant for self defense in the "real" world. Not to mention going to the ground in a fight can be dangerous as it limits your vision (multiple assailants) and control over your opponents arms (grabs a weapon).

MMA is much more versatile than boxing and adds a layer that isn't neccessarily more exciting or boring. More things can happen which is entertaining but bouts tend to be more cautious for this reason and have produced rather slow and boring fights but can end in spectacular fashion. I was a MMA fan first (Pride FC for the most part) and moved in to boxing. I don't care for the way UFC markets it as an "extreme" reality sport that carries over to the streets. There are educated MMA fans but there are also ignorant ones just like the boxing fanbase.

As far as match ups I felt fighters have been protected at times to build a bigger audience. The fact that almost anyone can beat anyone suggests they are of similar skill level; it does not have mean talent. It was a problem I had with the sport because atheletes had so much area to cover, it lacked consistency. Only a few fighters come to mind who I would consider to be very well rounded. Fedor, Couture, Silva, St. Pierre, and Faber. Everyone else seems to be lacking in one category or another. 205 lbs was regarded as being the toughest division but it just seems to have the least well rounded combatants.

MMA has been proven to be safer than boxing. But that doesn't mean they aren't subject to more types injuries, especially cuts from elbows.

Boxing is as stated before the art of fistfighting and that's the most exciting form of combat sport to me. The handspeed, bobbing and weaving, barely slipping punches, foot movement, and the rhythm it's all done to is just incredible. I'm still a fan of both. To me better fights happen in boxing than in MMA. I blame the way organizations are structured, kind of like professional wrestling. Still waiting for Couture vs. Fedor.

[birddog]

I think the comparison of MMA to boxing for streetfighting is pointless. It's still a sport that has rules, a referee, a ring, and rounds. The point of MMA isn't for streetfighting at least not anymore. Reality Martial Arts like Krav Maga, Kenpo, and Keysi are meant for self defense in the "real" world. Not to mention going to the ground in a fight can be dangerous as it limits your vision (multiple assailants) and control over your opponents arms (grabs a weapon).

MMA is much more versatile than boxing and adds a layer that isn't neccessarily more exciting or boring. More things can happen which is entertaining but bouts tend to be more cautious for this reason and have produced rather slow and boring fights but can end in spectacular fashion. I was a MMA fan first (Pride FC for the most part) and moved in to boxing. I don't care for the way UFC markets it as an "extreme" reality sport that carries over to the streets. There are educated MMA fans but there are also ignorant ones just like the boxing fanbase.

As far as match ups I felt fighters have been protected at times to build a bigger audience. The fact that almost anyone can beat anyone suggests they are of similar skill level; it does not have mean talent. It was a problem I had with the sport because atheletes had so much area to cover, it lacked consistency. Only a few fighters come to mind who I would consider to be very well rounded. Fedor, Couture, Silva, St. Pierre, and Faber. Everyone else seems to be lacking in one category or another. 205 lbs was regarded as being the toughest division but it just seems to have the least well rounded combatants.

MMA has been proven to be safer than boxing. But that doesn't mean they aren't subject to more types injuries, especially cuts from elbows.

Boxing is as stated before the art of fistfighting and that's the most exciting form of combat sport to me. The handspeed, bobbing and weaving, barely slipping punches, foot movement, and the rhythm it's all done to is just incredible. I'm still a fan of both. To me better fights happen in boxing than in MMA. I blame the way organizations are structured, kind of like professional wrestling. Still waiting for Couture vs. Fedor.

Good post, I agree with most of what you said.

Only thing is wether over the test of time, MMA proves to be safer, IMHO the jury may still be out on the basis of MMA being a relatively new sport, see my comments below.

We obviously know the side effects of boxing from the years concusive effects to the head creates, and it's long history. I want to see the effects MMA has after a longer history. We see the public face of the Randy Coutures, Bas Ruttens etc. But don't see if they can get out of bed in the am, or the second tier guys and their overall health, or how they will fare in 10 more years. Let alone the second and third tier competitors.

Also remeber we didn't see the ugly side of american football or WWF type wrestling, till years later (guys with broken bodies and lives). Just some thoughts.

I also don't get why folks continue to compare the sports, you simply can't they are too different in their scope (as has been poited out many times). It's like comparing a general construction contractor (MMA), to say a cabinet maker (Boxer). Both may be good at what they do, but they won't excell in the others specialty most likely.

Self defense/streefighting, I don't think belongs on a boxing board, or even in an MMA v Boxing discussion which I find inane to begin with. Those are whole different animals and circumstances.

I like both but prefer boxing.

[RealIzm]

All I'm saying Tyga is is that boxing is a more masterful sport with 10 times more depth than MMA

On side note MMA is a more complete, and versatile combat sport. However in my opinion this merely leads to fighters that are about average at best in each one, hence the 1 or 2 standouts that can execute more than one style above average

Boxing on the other hand is the art of fistfighting, and is able to be honed through years of practice, which in part is why there are many elite boxers, which all go about their craft in a somewhat different albeit effective mannerAgreed with by an MMA fighter turned boxer and widely understood by most fight fans:good

[TheChamp1000]

I think the comparison of MMA to boxing for streetfighting is pointless. It's still a sport that has rules, a referee, a ring, and rounds. The point of MMA isn't for streetfighting at least not anymore. Reality Martial Arts like Krav Maga, Kenpo, and Keysi are meant for self defense in the "real" world. Not to mention going to the ground in a fight can be dangerous as it limits your vision (multiple assailants) and control over your opponents arms (grabs a weapon).

MMA is much more versatile than boxing and adds a layer that isn't neccessarily more exciting or boring. More things can happen which is entertaining but bouts tend to be more cautious for this reason and have produced rather slow and boring fights but can end in spectacular fashion. I was a MMA fan first (Pride FC for the most part) and moved in to boxing. I don't care for the way UFC markets it as an "extreme" reality sport that carries over to the streets. There are educated MMA fans but there are also ignorant ones just like the boxing fanbase.

As far as match ups I felt fighters have been protected at times to build a bigger audience. The fact that almost anyone can beat anyone suggests they are of similar skill level; it does not have mean talent. It was a problem I had with the sport because atheletes had so much area to cover, it lacked consistency. Only a few fighters come to mind who I would consider to be very well rounded. Fedor, Couture, Silva, St. Pierre, and Faber. Everyone else seems to be lacking in one category or another. 205 lbs was regarded as being the toughest division but it just seems to have the least well rounded combatants.

MMA has been proven to be safer than boxing. But that doesn't mean they aren't subject to more types injuries, especially cuts from elbows.

Boxing is as stated before the art of fistfighting and that's the most exciting form of combat sport to me. The handspeed, bobbing and weaving, barely slipping punches, foot movement, and the rhythm it's all done to is just incredible. I'm still a fan of both. To me better fights happen in boxing than in MMA. I blame the way organizations are structured, kind of like professional wrestling. Still waiting for Couture vs. Fedor.


Should be a fight in 09 for Couture vs Fedor, Couture is back with UFC so once he has fought his contracted fights hopefully a deal can be struck.
I am with Fedor all the way in that fight, the mans a monster.

[Tyga]

There will never be a complete agreement when it comes to Boxing and MMA. People will always have their opinions. Live with it.

[soxfan57]

boxing in the 30's 40's etc

now dont jump down my throat on this cause i'm not the biggest MMA fan but it seems to me mma fighters can have pretty poor records atleast by modern day boxing standards n still b considered top level fighters and or get title shots


any thoughts?

I agree 100%...Because they are basically fully promoted by UFC, not a specific promoter...Usually the best fights for the fans are made.

[yodaddyboxing]

Yep.
Yep. But he would have gotten creamed earlier had he and Evans met before now.
OK
OK
OK

...and George Bush and McCain both went to flight school. Big shit.

Sorry, I 'm a hard core boxing fan, but I find MMA/UFC as interesting as Sumo wrestling. :smoke

LOL, I downloaded UFC88 off the torrent. 1.4GB large and ended up fast forwarding to the very end to see Liddell dropped like a sack of potatoes. Damn that boy was rubbernecked! LMAO.
thats fine

you said the majority of mma are just "tough guy "competition type fighters...

it shows your ignorance thats all..

Also ESPN is showing more MMA highlights then boxing these days. with the exception of FNF..

[yodaddyboxing]

Look at UFC 88. All those fights prior to Evans are as interesting as watching a bowl of soup cool.
Just a bunch of non talented whites boys beating up on each other.
I can see that anytime for free in Alabama. :hi:



har har har.. you would lose to every last one of them to..

[yodaddyboxing]

Look at UFC 88. All those fights prior to Evans are as interesting as watching a bowl of soup cool.
Just a bunch of non talented whites boys beating up on each other.
I can see that anytime for free in Alabama, Oklahoma, or Texas. :hi:

BTW its funny that you mentioned all the fights on the undercard..that was a PPV.. so either you ordered it or went somewhere to watch it..

you are a bigger UFC fan then me

:lol:

[yodaddyboxing]

Look at UFC 88. All those fights prior to Evans are as interesting as watching a bowl of soup cool.
Just a bunch of non talented whites boys beating up on each other.
I can see that anytime for free in Alabama, Oklahoma, or Texas. :hi:

yet you watched them :lol:

and the white boy comment.. you can get away with it behind a monitor old man..but thats about it. :deal