Boxing Training

[seifullaah73]

I need some help on boxing training and having asked a few people on what makes a boxing champion they gave me the following list aswell as some i have come up with.

Mental toughness

Good footwork

A strong chin

Reasonable tolerance to pain

Stamina: to be able to to box take short rest and get back in the fight i think or is stamina for something else

Strength: Punch power

Agility: manouverability

Speed: Punching speed

Movement: Punching and moving around the ring

and if there is anything else that makes a champion then plz post them.

What training do i do to achieve each point.
i am going to start a HIIT training program jogging and jump rope and a bodyweight training regime to gain some mass.
i would really appreciate it.


i want to become the next muhammad ali
:bbb

[SeanDoc]

Strength and punch power aren't necessarily the same thing.

[amy]

add coachability to that list.

[Tyga]

Also dedication and sacrifice.

[aj415]

This is just an amateur's opinion, I do train seriously, but I definitely have not won a championship.... yet :good .


To win a championship, at the bare minimum you need strengths in at least three of the following area's

(With one rule*):




Speed

Skill

Defense

Chin

Power

Heart

* If you don't have a chin you MUST have defense.




Examples :

- Speed, Skill, and Defense- Current: FMJr. Past: Sweat Pea

- Chin, Power, and Heart- Current: Antonio Margarito Past: Roberto Duran(see:Skill)

- Speed, Chin, and Heart- Current: Paulie Malignaggi Past: Meldrick Taylor

- Power, Chin, Skill- Current(Retired): Acelino Freitas (see:no heart) Past: Marvin Hagler

- Heart, Power, Skill- Current: Ricky Hatton Past: Alexis Arguello


- Amir Khan has Speed, Power, and Skill, but he has no chin and his defense is poor, and against Prescott he proved the rule.



BUT,

If we are talking about defending a championship / achieving ones potential / being propelled to greatness, the most important quality is character.


Even boxers considered ATG's are still disappointing because of a deficiency in this area, like Mike Tyson, FMJr., and DLH.

[seifullaah73]

This is just an amateur's opinion, I do train seriously, but I definitely have not won a championship.... yet :good .


To win a championship, at the bare minimum you need strengths in at least three of the following area's

(With one rule*):




Speed

Skill

Defense

Chin

Power

Heart

* If you don't have a chin you MUST have defense.




Examples :

- Speed, Skill, and Defense- Current: FMJr. Past: Sweat Pea

- Chin, Power, and Heart- Current: Antonio Margarito Past: Roberto Duran(see:Skill)

- Speed, Chin, and Heart- Current: Paulie Malignaggi Past: Meldrick Taylor

- Power, Chin, Skill- Current(Retired): Acelino Freitas (see:no heart) Past: Marvin Hagler

- Heart, Power, Skill- Current: Ricky Hatton Past: Alexis Arguello


- Amir Khan has Speed, Power, and Skill, but he has no chin and his defense is poor, and against Prescott he proved the rule.



BUT,

If we are talking about defending a championship / achieving ones potential / being propelled to greatness, the most important quality is character.


Even boxers considered ATG's are still disappointing because of a deficiency in this area, like Mike Tyson, FMJr., and DLH.
Well if i was to choose the most important 3 options of the categories you have listed then i would say

Speed
Defence
Power

by heart do you mean stamina

and for the categories how would you train to increase them i.e. how do you improve foot work, power, etc.
i have heard that power can be training by heavy bag but is there any other way.

what do you mean by coachability.
sacrifice and dedication = mentally motivated

doesn't every one have a chin

[aj415]

Well if i was to choose the most important 3 options of the categories you have listed then i would say

Speed
Defence
Power

by heart do you mean stamina

and for the categories how would you train to increase them i.e. how do you improve foot work, power, etc.
i have heard that power can be training by heavy bag but is there any other way.

what do you mean by coachability.
sacrifice and dedication = mentally motivated

doesn't every one have a chin

It's a bit of a read, but hopefully you find some value...




Four of those six qualities are intangibles that can't truly be learned -- but are rather qualities that one has a limited aptitude for. This is just an opinion mind you about what it takes to be a champion. You should follow your goals as best you can, regardless. Box and learn as much as you can. After you have been doing it for a long while and get comfortable you can analyze what your strength's and weaknesses are as a fighter.

Let me define those qualities as I see them --



Heart
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Means desire or will to win. It is how much you 'want' it. It determines at what you point you say 'enough is enough', if at all, and how much punishment you are willing to absorb and come back from. It is not something that can be learned, as it is very much a psychological/emotional intangible within each of us.





Speed

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Hand Speed, Foot Speed, Reflexes. How fast your body is able to move at its peak conditioniong.





Skill

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Under this heading falls the likes of footwork, technique, intelligence, and punch selection. How much of the sweet science you master. How well you use angles. How much discipline is in your style, movement. Are your movements and punches wild with wasted energy? Or focused and with purpose? How well you make adjustments to what your opponent gives you. What combinations to throw and when. Boxing is a physical chess match, and to be good you need to be able to think in the ring( think fast :good ). Much of it is also mental and physical conditioning that you repeat over and over and over in the gym.

Have you ever heard of Ricardo Lopez? I would suggest doing a search for him on the boards. He is considered by many to be one of the most skilled boxers in history. Certainly the most skilled "textbook" fighter. It is not to be mistaken with athleticism or talent (ala Muhammad Ali.). This quality is very much learnable and can always be improved.





Chin
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Like how tall you are, your born that way. Chin means ability to take a punch, or punch resistance to the head. How hard of a hit can you take without being knocked out? It varies from person to person. If you can't take to many punches you need to learn and focus on attaining strong defensive skills.

The only way to strengthen your punch resistance (that I've found, and I've looked extensively) is by strengthening your neck muscles. The less your head snaps back, the less your brain moves and bounces around. Your brain hitting the skull with force is what causes a knockout, in simplistic terms. If you have a strong neck your head will move less, and it will lessen the movements of the brain.





Defense
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Defense is a part of your skill in most cases (some boxers use their athleticism to avoid punches, while others just don't avoid punches at all.) But it is important enough that it deserves it's own category. Blocking, slipping, dipping, good footwork, rolling, all can be used for defense and avoiding punches. Like previously said, if your chin is suspect work on your defense, because no matter how good you are, at some point you will get caught with a big shot.





Power
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Punchers are born, not made my friend. You have a natural aptitude for how powerful a shot you can throw. Build up your natural power as much as you can using the heavybag, bodyweight excercises, and explosiveness workout techniques. Building up explosive muscle will through excercises that build explosiveness-- like clap pushups. I would suggest checking out the "Complete Beginner training regime" thread that is stickied in this forum. Excellent stuff there.




Stamina is indeed important. Build it up through conditioning and hard work. It is a common acknowledgement in boxing that most fights are won in the gym, aka how much harder you work then the other guy.




My advice to you is to forget everything mentioned here and any expectations you may have. Just go to the gym practice, learn, absorb, and work hard!:bbb

[MrSmall]

I didn't see desire, dedication, work ethic, discipline there.

[aj415]

I didn't see desire, dedication, work ethic, discipline there.

Oh those?

Useless.







(See as mentioned: Heart = desire, Skill- requires discipline / focus, Stamina - attained through hard work).

[seifullaah73]

aj415 brilliant post,
just amazing the way you layed it out.

thanks for taking your time in writing it.

:D

just did research on ricardo lopez on youtube of his fights man i understand by what you meant by skill.
very skilled.