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IntentionalButt
06-20-2007, 11:21 PM
up 2-0 so far.

david6w
06-20-2007, 11:32 PM
anyone got a stream?

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:35 PM
Manfredo underestimated this guy but I haven't seen a schooling as much as I have seen Manfredo having a difficulty ad******g to this guys awkward style.

It is a good fight tho

Marcus
06-20-2007, 11:36 PM
great updates....keep goin :good

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:38 PM
Banks has a slick style and Manfredo is getting hit wit right hands constantly. Banks has no real power but he is fast. Banks reminds me of Emanuel Augustus with out the clowning

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:39 PM
Manfredo landed a monster right hand in the last minute of the 5th. Banks did not seem hurt. Banks leads 3 rounds to 2.

IntentionalButt
06-20-2007, 11:39 PM
I have this fight even after six.

david6w
06-20-2007, 11:40 PM
I am not watching the fight so keep the RBR going please! much thanks! Emanual Augustus has some power so I dont think you can compare the two.

IntentionalButt
06-20-2007, 11:40 PM
It's weird, there were a couple of moments where Banks seemed to be in trouble, but he either shook it off or I was misreading his body language. Right now I'm going to say he has a decent chin...that could change.

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:41 PM
Banks took first 3 rounds with the right hand only. Manfredo took the next 2 rounds with mostly the right hand.

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:42 PM
I am not watching the fight so keep the RBR going please! much thanks! Emanual Augustus has some power so I dont think you can compare the two.

:patsch Does anyone ever read a post before they respond to it?

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:43 PM
4 rounds to 3 for Manfredo after 7

IntentionalButt
06-20-2007, 11:45 PM
I am not watching the fight so keep the RBR going please! much thanks! Emanual Augustus has some power so I dont think you can compare the two.

It's not that Banks doesn't have any power, he just doesn't have natural brutal pop, and seems to still be a little undisciplined about committing to his combinations. When he does put some snap on those fast, short punches they're clearly landing with some impact. He whipped Manfredo's head side to side a couple of times in the early rounds.

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:45 PM
Manfredo is landing the harder shots now.

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:47 PM
Banks is getting busted up now. 8th round went to Manfredo. Banks looks tired and discouraged.

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:49 PM
Banks looks tired. Manfredo looks as limited as ever, he has looked tired all night. He looks out of shape. He is throwing some of the laziest punches i've ever seen.

:lol: What fight are you watching?

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:52 PM
Manfredo is in complete control now. Landing the only punches that have anything on them. Judges may like Banks aggression at the end of the 9th however.

IntentionalButt
06-20-2007, 11:52 PM
Like I said, Banks' body language is incredibly difficult to read. Sometimes it looks like his conditioning is real bad, but he keeps moving and working.

Had to give Banks the 9th because Peter didn't do shit, Manfredo 5-4.

teetop
06-20-2007, 11:52 PM
I just tuned in to the fight in the 8th, and the worst for wear look
goes to manfrdo. He never deserved his ring magazine ranking. The
guy is so a club fighter.

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:52 PM
Alan Green should have an easy night with the pride of providence.

If Green is healthy.

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:54 PM
Dont get me wrong it's entertaining. I just rate both guys as C+ fighters.

He may be I don't know but he is entertaining

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:55 PM
I just tuned in to the fight in the 8th, and the worst for wear look
goes to manfrdo. He never deserved his ring magazine ranking. The
guy is so a club fighter.

The only injury to Manfredo was from a headbutt to the eye.

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:56 PM
:patsch

What? The man is sick right now. I ain't dissing him I am a fan.

IntentionalButt
06-20-2007, 11:57 PM
10th was difficult to score imo, but the local judges probably didn't miss the three big shots by Manfredo, so I'm gonna guess he takes this.

See Me Flow
06-20-2007, 11:58 PM
I'm not impressed with Manfredo whatsoever. There's nothing special that stands out about this guy.

Looking back at the Calzaghe fight I now believe it was appropriate for the referee to stop the fight. Manfredo would have been stopped in a matter of time regardless.

IntentionalButt
06-20-2007, 11:59 PM
Manfredo UD, 97-93 x3

Flatlander
06-20-2007, 11:59 PM
The score 97 - 93 Manfredo sounds about right to me

david6w
06-20-2007, 11:59 PM
97-93 on all cards for PETER!!!!!

IntentionalButt
06-21-2007, 12:00 AM
The score 97 - 93 Manfredo sounds about right to me

Tenth was close, but I gave it to him, which made it 96-94 on my card.

Flatlander
06-21-2007, 12:01 AM
I'm not impressed with Manfredo whatsoever. There's nothing special that stands out about this guy.

Looking back at the Calzaghe fight I now believe it was appropriate for the referee to stop the fight. Manfredo would have been stopped in a matter of time regardless.

We will never know. Goofy ref took that option from us. Those slapping punches Joe was throwing wouldn't even have hurt a fly and Manfredo was never hit with anything solid let alone hurt.

See Me Flow
06-21-2007, 12:03 AM
We will never know. Goofy ref took that option from us. Those slapping punches Joe was throwing wouldn't even have hurt a fly and Manfredo was never hit with anything solid let alone hurt.

You have to admit though Flat, Calzaghe is a far superior boxer than Manfredo.

doom bull
06-21-2007, 12:05 AM
Manfredo is a sucker for a straight right. Not a good trait with most good super middles.

Flatlander
06-21-2007, 12:06 AM
You have to admit though Flat, Calzaghe is a far superior boxer than Manfredo.

Two different class of fighters, no doubt. I would just like to see the warrior go out on his shield. Joe landed two or three punches out of that entire barrage and Manfredo did not appear to be all that affected by any of them.

Butch Coolidge
06-21-2007, 12:06 AM
Calzaghe messes up Manfredo's hair and the ref thought it was a knockout.:verysad

IntentionalButt
06-21-2007, 12:08 AM
the overzealous ref jumped the gun, yes. but that fight should not have been made in the first place, at least a dozen guys were more deserving of that title shot, so i shed no tears for it being cut short.

Flatlander
06-21-2007, 12:10 AM
the overzealous ref jumped the gun, yes. but that fight should not have been made in the first place, at least a dozen guys were more deserving of that title shot, so i shed no tears for it being cut short.

Tears no but there were no cheers either. It was a bad stoppage.

IntentionalButt
06-21-2007, 12:13 AM
Banks has the fundamentals, but there is lots of room for improvement, and if there is no serious progression from his current game he'll never be anything.

I think we are watching Manfredo peak before our eyes. I know he's young, I just don't see alot of his holes being patched at this stage. At best, he could become the next Vinny Paz.

IntentionalButt
06-21-2007, 12:14 AM
Tears no but there were no cheers either. It was a bad stoppage.

Absolutely was. My point is, if it were a more important fight (or one that should have been sanctioned in the first place), it would be easier to be outraged by it.

Jinx
06-21-2007, 12:17 AM
Manfredo got jobbed in the 'stoppage' with Calzaghe, but he still doesn't have enuff pop to be anything more than a fringe contender at 168...Allan Green would destroy him...

IntentionalButt
06-21-2007, 12:26 AM
Manfredo got jobbed in the 'stoppage' with Calzaghe, but he still doesn't have enuff pop to be anything more than a fringe contender at 168...Allan Green would destroy him...

Green is superior to Manfredo in every department except chin. Even Peter has a puncher's chance against him.

Marcus
06-21-2007, 12:30 AM
Manfredo UD, 97-93 x3

thanks man, that was great!!!! talk about to the minute updates!!!

Flatlander
06-21-2007, 12:31 AM
Why would Manfredo want to fight Green who is actually an light heavyweight? Green has to lose 15 or 20 pounds to fight at super middle. That is why the kids liver enzymes are all screwed up. Too much weight loss too many times.

Flatlander
06-21-2007, 12:32 AM
Green is superior to Manfredo in every department except chin. Even Peter has a puncher's chance against him.

Green's chin is highly underrated. He spars with HWs all the time.

Kostya Zoo
06-21-2007, 12:34 AM
I think we are watching Manfredo peak before our eyes. I know he's young, I just don't see alot of his holes being patched at this stage. At best, he could become the next Vinny Paz.

Looks like Manfredo has regressed since losing Freddy Roach as a trainer and going back to his father. I get the impression they don't work all that well together.

Jinx
06-21-2007, 12:38 AM
Green is superior to Manfredo in every department except chin. Even Peter has a puncher's chance against him.

Manfredo is a slightly better boxer than Green, so that's only other advantage i could give to Manfredo...

joe the great
06-21-2007, 12:39 AM
I saw the fight in between watching fox news. Looked pretty good. Manfredo won 97-93 on all 3 cards. Banks looked like a pretty decent power but he has less of a punch than Ottke. I'd love to see Manfredo-Green at 162.

IntentionalButt
06-21-2007, 12:41 AM
Manfredo is a slightly better boxer than Green, so that's only other advantage i could give to Manfredo...

Fair enough. I think Manfredo's offense is full of holes, but to each his own. :good

Rock0052
06-21-2007, 12:46 AM
Looks like Manfredo has regressed since losing Freddy Roach as a trainer and going back to his father. I get the impression they don't work all that well together.

Is Roach permanently leaving Manfredo? If so, that's a shame- he actually looked to be making some progress with Freddie training him.

Kostya Zoo
06-21-2007, 12:46 AM
Is Roach permanently leaving Manfredo? If so, that's a shame- he actually looked to be making some progress with Freddie training him.

Not sure of the situation. I just know that he hasn't been in Manfredo's corner for his past 3 fights.

IntentionalButt
06-21-2007, 12:50 AM
Not sure of the situation. I just know that he hasn't been in Manfredo's corner for his past 3 fights.

bigger fish to fry.

Kostya Zoo
06-21-2007, 12:56 AM
bigger fish to fry.

that was basically my take on it

Zakman
06-21-2007, 01:20 AM
If Green is healthy.

What's he got? A bad case of glassjaw-itis??:lol::lol:

CASH_718
06-21-2007, 01:23 AM
up 2-0 so far.Schooling after 2 rounds???:patsch

Flatlander
06-21-2007, 01:31 AM
What's he got? A bad case of glassjaw-itis??:lol::lol:

:-(

IntentionalButt
06-21-2007, 01:43 AM
Schooling after 2 rounds???:patsch
uh, no, during. proceded to lose most of the rest of the fight though. :yep

Zakman
06-21-2007, 02:11 AM
Manfredo got jobbed in the 'stoppage' with Calzaghe, but he still doesn't have enuff pop to be anything more than a fringe contender at 168...Allan Green would destroy him...
If some midwestern tomato can can put Green on queer street and nearly KTFO him, an ordinary fringe contender like Manfredo might just be able to keep him there. :nod

nervousxtian
06-21-2007, 06:37 AM
Peter seems very unhappy with his father training him, I mean, he asked Teddy to train him!

Peter improved with Roach, and he's digressed with his father into a fighter who just isn't sure of himself, the stuff he was doing against Pemberton and Spina and how he looked last night were so totally different, it had to be Roach.

scorpy
06-21-2007, 09:25 AM
If some midwestern tomato can can put Green on queer street and nearly KTFO him, an ordinary fringe contender like Manfredo might just be able to keep him there. :nod

Weren't you saying things like that before Green - Miranda ? Didn't Green made it to the final bell ? And wouldn't Miranda beat Manfredo 10 times out of 10 ? :think

pipe wrenched
06-21-2007, 09:45 AM
It defiitely didn't look like the same Manfredo. I was about to get sick from his seeming inability to stop gettin CRACKED by Banks right hand. I was impressed with how humble he was in post fight and he probably does need to take a break and re-group. BTW, even though he took a ton of good looking right hand leads from Banks and his eye was pretty much smashed shut he stayed in there and fought hard. Overall it was a good show and the cruiserweight before hand was awesome, will have to keep an eye out for him in the future.

Butterfly^Soul
06-21-2007, 10:16 AM
Turned out to be a damn good fight:bbb Peter showed a lot of heart & grit...

boxfan99
06-21-2007, 10:45 AM
Peter seems very unhappy with his father training him, I mean, he asked Teddy to train him!

Peter improved with Roach, and he's digressed with his father into a fighter who just isn't sure of himself, the stuff he was doing against Pemberton and Spina and how he looked last night were so totally different, it had to be Roach.

Or perhaps Banks was just slightly better than a shot Pemberton and a never has-been Spina. My point being Manfredo is/was the most overrated active boxer lately, and I'm looking so much forward to his fight against Green, then we will all see what he really is worth.:yep

Btw I like Manfredo as a person, I just don't like the hype surrounding him, because he really hasn't earned it in my eyes.

Butterfly^Soul
06-21-2007, 10:52 AM
Or perhaps Banks was just slightly better than a shot Pemberton and a never has-been Spina. My point being Manfredo is/was the most overrated active boxer lately, and I'm looking so much forward to his fight against Green, then we will all see what he really is worth.:yep

Btw I like Manfredo as a person, I just don't like the hype surrounding him, because he really hasn't earned it in my eyes.

The guy has a pretty strong fanbase(especially in new england),but I don't think anyone's claiming him to be a world beater or anything.He's an exciting fighter who's praised for his charity work around here.That's about it...

IntentionalButt
06-21-2007, 12:44 PM
Peter seems very unhappy with his father training him, I mean, he asked Teddy to train him!

Peter improved with Roach, and he's digressed with his father into a fighter who just isn't sure of himself, the stuff he was doing against Pemberton and Spina and how he looked last night were so totally different, it had to be Roach.
I'd agree that without professional help Peter stands absolutely no chance whatsoever of being a legitimate threat to any alphabelt.

Brickhaus
06-21-2007, 01:44 PM
If some midwestern tomato can can put Green on queer street and nearly KTFO him, an ordinary fringe contender like Manfredo might just be able to keep him there. :nod

I can't see how you can't upgrade the guy's chin a bit after the Miranda fight. If he was grade A china, he would have been laid out permanently by any number of solid shots straight to the chin by Miranda. Sometimes a guy just gets caught with a shot he never saw coming. Below average chin? Sure, but your distaste for Green's chin is over the top.

Manfredo punches like a light middleweight, probably because he's a natural light middleweight. He has no chance against Green, not even a puncher's chance.