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If there's one thing that's certain in MMA, it's this: When it's Houston Alexander versus a submission fighter, pick his opponent by sub. Gimme, gimme 7 points!
Beebs
09-17-2008, 09:21 PM
CRY ZHOOZITSU my freeeen!!!
Skill prevails.
Poor Houston. I do like the guy, and his standup style is fun to watch. His knees are brutal. His ground game though...well, it's beyond awful.
ufoalf
09-17-2008, 09:38 PM
Sad, I was rooting for Houston.
Valcano Taco.
Sad, I was rooting for Houston.
Valcano Taco.
Houston can't beat ground guys. But, he's entertaining as hell. You'd think the UFC would throw a striker his way, not a BJJ blackbelt. I'd like to see Houston vs. Rich Franklin. I think Franklin is the better fighter, but that would be an insanely tough matchup based purely on styles. Franklin's no ground guru, but he's more polished on his feet. Still, Houston has him in raw power by a mile.
J_Roth
09-17-2008, 09:53 PM
Houston is fun but I have a feeling he will catch him in the first after some hairy moments.
ozziebattler
09-17-2008, 09:54 PM
This is the first time in oz ufc fans get to watch a event(non ppv) live.
MMA is starting to take over here in oz.
Loving it.
Now all we need is some decent aussie fighters.lol.
ufoalf
09-17-2008, 10:28 PM
Who fought before Danzig Vs Guida? I missed it.
ufoalf
09-17-2008, 10:32 PM
NVM I didn't miss anything. I thought there was a fight after Herman and before Danzig fights.
NVM I didn't miss anything. I thought there was a fight after Herman and before Danzig fights.
Nope. There haven't been that many fights tonight, since they've all been going several rounds deep. If Diaz sinks in a quick sub here, we may get to watch a quick KO from the undercard.
ufoalf
09-17-2008, 10:42 PM
I just read that Sakara vs Vedepo(or w/e) was quick but won't ruin it for those who haven't seen/heard anything. Hopefully we'll get to see that.
P.S. Does Nate Diaz sound a little like Mos Def? The way he speaks just screams "I'm high as shit".
ufoalf
09-17-2008, 10:57 PM
I'm almost 100% certain Joe Rogan is stoned as fuck right now...
"He's so slippery man..."
He said "slippery" at least 25 times. Did he make a bet or something on how many times he can say "slippery"? Like in "Super Troopers" saying "meow" instead of "now"?
P.S. So much for an extra fight. Seems we're gona miss half of "Season 8" of Tuf.
Poor Danzig got pinned by Guida and lost a UD. That Guida is a handfull for anybody but I find his style frustrating to watch. The look on Danzig's face said it all.....Guida just pinned him him against the fence and the matt the whole 3rd round.
Beebs
09-18-2008, 01:12 AM
Alan Belcher and Josh Neer really impressed me, I really underestimated them both.
ufoalf
09-18-2008, 01:59 AM
Alan Belcher and Josh Neer really impressed me, I really underestimated them both.
I'm with you on that one. Josh Neer has FAR exceeded my expectation, he would've won udner Pride rules too.
Polymath
09-18-2008, 02:15 AM
I'm almost 100% certain Joe Rogan is stoned as fuck right now...
"He's so slippery man..."
He said "slippery" at least 25 times. Did he make a bet or something on how many times he can say "slippery"? Like in "Super Troopers" saying "meow" instead of "now"?
P.S. So much for an extra fight. Seems we're gona miss half of "Season 8" of Tuf.
Jeezus Fuckery Joe Rogan is woeful!
I'd rather listen to Nikolai Valuev taking a dump.
Yea I liked guida before this fight but he was boring as hell in this fight. All he did was hold onto Mac, no trying to finish no trying to do anything. He had shit stand up and couldn't hold down Mac for long just kept pulling him down and laying there, gay. Hopefully he does better next time, same with Mac.
Diaz/Neer fight was ok alot of position changes but nobody was in trouble at any point in this fight. Pretty lack luster event in all.
ozziebattler
09-18-2008, 10:45 AM
Poor Danzig got pinned by Guida and lost a UD. That Guida is a handfull for anybody but I find his style frustrating to watch. The look on Danzig's face said it all.....Guida just pinned him him against the fence and the matt the whole 3rd round.
I agree with you.I quess guida's gameplan was to outhustle and frustrate Danzig and it really worked.
It was a very hard bout to watch.I feel Danzig had to let his fists go at will as it was easy to see by the end of the 1st what Guida's gameplan was.
ozziebattler
09-18-2008, 10:49 AM
Diaz/Neer fight was ok alot of position changes but nobody was in trouble at any point in this fight. Pretty lack luster event in all.
Yeah i was pretty dissapointed as it was the first ever time us ozzies got to watch a LIVE non PPV MMA event.
MMA is getting huge here so hopefully we get more live events and hopefully the have better action.
The night had it's moments, and the scrambles in the main event were interesting, but overall it wasn't a great event. Joe Rogan kept repeating the same innane shit over the course of two hours, and we didn't even get a knockout. What are us bloodthirsty fans to do?
Alan Belcher and Josh Neer really impressed me, I really underestimated them both.
I've always known what kinda fighter Neer was. He's really a solid fighter. Nate is the one who impressed me the most.
And I wish Belcher would've gotten KO'ed for all the flashy moves he was doing and not listening to his corner. But it was a good win for him.
Wilhelm
09-18-2008, 08:39 PM
Alan Belcher and Josh Neer really impressed me, I really underestimated them both.
Yeah, I don't get it. To me it didn't look like Neer cared if he won or lost last night. He just stood there on the feet when he's been a lot braver with much harder and BETTER punchers throwing at him. He also didn't seem to want to get up when he was on his back even though it was pretty clear he couldn't win the fight from there. Not impressed.
I was also really hoping that Belcher would stop Herman, and he had him hurt pretty bad a few times and never followed it up.
I thought Shafer did a pretty decent job conisidering the 100% illegal (like it or not) knees that Alexander landed to start the fight. That chickenshit ref should be banned. You can see that he sees them and knows they're illegal and is starting to move in to break them and then realizes "hey, if I do this they'll boo" and backs off. Fuck that guy.
And for whoever said they should put Alexander in with Franklin, Franklin would school him on the ground, as he's pretty good there and too smart to just stand there and trade. I don't know too many guys who would (including Jardine now that he knows how hard Alexander hits) who wouldn't take him down. Unless they pull a boxer off of a street corner I don't see Alexander doing anything.
Whats a good counter to that walk around move that Diaz was pulling every time Neer got an arm? Something that unorthodox, where you show your back seems like it should put you in some sort of crazy danger. Could you grab a leg and dry some sort of reversal from that walk over move, or is there a sub attempt that can be attempted to improve position? Seems like a move that has a bit of risk to it.
Kairos
09-18-2008, 11:49 PM
Danzig is overrated. He just looked great because everybody on his season was downright awful.
Danzig is pretty good imo. With a guy like Guida, you need to either compete with him on a wresting and gnp level, or beat his ass standing, which imo would require luck and very good timing.
Think about what weaknesses Guida actually has. He doesn't strike very well, but he closes the gap very well and has a good chin to patch up that problem. He isn't the most technically gifted submission guy, but he is busy busy, more busy than Diego Sanchez and his wrestling strength is good for 15 minutes at least.
He's a tough guy to beat. I think if Danzig fights more cautious fighters, fighters are usually vulnerable to subs, grapplers are usually vulnerable to strikes. That makes Danzig pretty well rounded. I like his odds against most other fighters. I feel he has a superior cerebral approach to MMA. Where Guida is just a freaky dude, who's skillsets maximise his natural ability.
Wilhelm
09-19-2008, 04:46 AM
Danzig is overrated. He just looked great because everybody on his season was downright awful.
The Aussie guy wasn't bad, although he seemed to be timid sometimes.
Any idea who's next for Diaz? Fisher? Clementi? Danzig? Honestly, I'd pick all of those guys to be better strikers and I don't think Diaz would be able to sub any of them, but I ALWAYS pick against Diaz (except against Neer who I wasn't sure about) and I'm always wrong.
Any predictions people?
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