Is Hatton really only getting 8 million for this fight? [Archive]

Fab2333

07-31-2007, 12:52 PM

ONLY 8 million? :lol: You say that likes it's a bad thing. Shit bring the money over this way if Hatton doesn't want it. I'll get my ass kicked for a "measly" 8 million dollars.:!:
I 2nd that, wouldnt this be Hattons biggest Payday to date. Give me 8 million to fight Floyd, granted I am at 162 pounds right now boxing. I would damn near have to kill myself to make 147. But for 8 million, I would sure as hell make it. I would go and give it my all, If i lose which 9x's out of 10 I will. I will be 8million dollars richer.

Danny Ocean

07-31-2007, 12:56 PM

ONLY 8 million? :lol: You say that likes it's a bad thing. Shit bring the money over this way if Hatton doesn't want it. I'll get my ass kicked for a "measly" 8 million dollars.:!:

:rofl

Shotgun

07-31-2007, 01:04 PM

There's a lot of outside income for big time European boxers, from Euro TV money and advertising and all that. For the Castillo fight there was an article that said Hatton's "purse" was like $2 million but he actually made close to $10 million from the fight due to outside revenue sources

If he's making a guaranteed $8 million you can bet he's making quite a bit more from European TV and advertising money and probably a percentage of the HBO PPV revenue too

Boro chris

07-31-2007, 01:06 PM

I'd get beaten like a red haired step child for 8 mill!

I'd even let that prick Michael Marley have a go!:lol:

Fab2333

07-31-2007, 01:10 PM

I'd get beaten like a red haired step child for 8 mill!

I'd even let that prick Michael Marley have a go!:lol::rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Pimp C

07-31-2007, 01:14 PM

Good payday plus he'll get PPV revenue as well.

Decy

07-31-2007, 01:15 PM

I 2nd that, wouldnt this be Hattons biggest Payday to date. Give me 8 million to fight Floyd, granted I am at 162 pounds right now boxing. I would damn near have to kill myself to make 147. But for 8 million, I would sure as hell make it. I would go and give it my all, If i lose which 9x's out of 10 I will. I will be 8million dollars richer.

I hope you are not saying you would beat PBF 1 out of 10.

Fab2333

07-31-2007, 01:17 PM

I hope you are not saying you would beat PBF 1 out of 10.

y not, there is always a possibility I could land a Tarver on RJ.:yep

Guru_Too_You

07-31-2007, 01:31 PM

Yeah only 8 million, which almost doubles his biggest reported payday to date.

mancat

07-31-2007, 01:33 PM

Guru_Too_You

07-31-2007, 01:34 PM

I say only 8 million because I remember that Hatton was asking for 13 million to fight Mayweather in 2006. This makes me believe that Hatton was either ducking by way of pricing himself out then, or he feels his stock has fallen now. He definately can't feel he is the bigger draw by any means.

Considering at that point his biggest reported payday was around 3.5 millon, he was DEFINITELY pricing himself out.

Now it has become clear as day.

Caper

07-31-2007, 01:35 PM

I read on another site Hatton is only getting 8 million for this fight. Is it true?

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Why that's ridiculous........:twisted:

His medical bill after the fight will suck up at least half his earnings :yep

Fab2333

07-31-2007, 01:36 PM

Why that's ridiculous........:twisted:

His medical bill after the fight will suck up at least half his earnings :yep:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

grayggr

07-31-2007, 01:38 PM

Why that's ridiculous........:twisted:

His medical bill after the fight will suck up at least half his earnings :yep

NHS mate.

No bills, unless he goes BUPA.

Caper

07-31-2007, 01:39 PM

NHS mate.

No bills, unless he goes BUPA.

Is that like Euro medicaid?

:p

Danny Ocean

07-31-2007, 01:40 PM

Hatton fans arent like Floyboys! They dont care, or take personal how much money Hatton makes.

boring

mancat

07-31-2007, 01:43 PM

Hatton fans arent like Floyboys! They dont care, or take personal how much money Hatton makes.
My question about Hatton's payday is because of two trends:

1. Some people saying that Hatton is the main draw. If he is the main draw why is he making so "little" in a fight that is bound to do at least 800,000PPV buys?

2. People saying that Hatton didn't duck Mayweather at 140. If he wanted 13 million then, why is he only accepting 8 million now, AFTER his three fights in America have suppoesedly raised his profile?

3. People saying Mayweather is cherrypicking. Obviously WW is the only weight that Hatton can make any money at. The other WWs are to big and strong for Hatton. So, perhaps it is Hatton that is taking the path of least resistance by fighting Mayweather. Cintron, Mosely, Williams, Cotto, Margarito, and even Berto and Judah will smash Hatton. Thus he's fighting the smallest of the bunch in hopes he can bully his way to a win.

mancat

07-31-2007, 01:54 PM

Hatton IS the draw! Im sure Hatton is taking the shorter pay because premadonna Floyd wouldnt fight him if it wasnt for him getting the lions share of the purse. 80% of the people who are tuning in to see floyd, are only doing so to see him lose. Thats not what a "draw" is considered. All u would have to do is listen to the chants from the crowd....That right there would tell u who's the damn draw!:deal

That's not a very rational argument Deeval. What I mean by draw is the person responsible for most of the PPV buys, not who has the most idiots spend a month's pay to fly to another country. Furthermore, why is Hatton giving "premadonna floyd" the lion's share now, but not three years ago? Also, do you have an answer to my second and third points?

Shotgun

07-31-2007, 02:00 PM

My question about Hatton's payday is because of two trends:

1. Some people saying that Hatton is the main draw. If he is the main draw why is he making so "little" in a fight that is bound to do at least 800,000PPV buys?

2. People saying that Hatton didn't duck Mayweather at 140. If he wanted 13 million then, why is he only accepting 8 million now, AFTER his three fights in America have suppoesedly raised his profile?

You don't know the details of the contract so you can't really speak on it with any certainty. For all you know his $8 million could just be the guarantee from the US promoters and HBO. You don't know if he's getting a PPV cut. If the fight does 800,000 buys like you predict and Hatton got a relatively small slice of the cut say 15% of the revenue by contract he'd get a payday of $14 million. You also don't have any idea what he's getting paid via British TV/PPV contracts.

Something that always gets overlooked on ESB is that many posters think the announced purse or the guarantee from the promoter/venue/HBO is the be all end all, especially for European boxers. It isn't. Boxers like Hatton and the Klitschkos get paid hefty money for European TV rights to their fights and by advertisers and sponsors

mancat

07-31-2007, 02:08 PM

Ok, in response to 2 and 3

2. It was clear to anyone who follows the sport, that Hatton took a 3 fight deal from HBO in order to build up exposure in the States, and eventually face off with Floyd. If Floyd wanted to interupt that, then Hatton wanted to make it worth his while. There was no way on earth that they would've paid Hatton a decent percentage of the purse given that he was a virtual "unknown" here in the states. That would've been Floyd's camp's excuse not to pay Hatton accordingly.

3. According to you, Hatton is the one who is cherrypicking by fighting Floyd?? You shouldnt be allowed to post here ever again! :-(

No, Hatton is taking the fight he has the best chance to win. It is a 5% chance, but at least he MIGHT be able to use bullying tactics to avoid getting his block knocked off by a KO artist like Cintron, or raped by a tough hombre like Margarito for less money. I think that he is taking a step that is good for boxing and will just say that neither he nor Mayweather are cherrypicking.

By the way, your argument for point 2 was well done. Kudos to you!

Marnoff

07-31-2007, 02:30 PM

Hatton couldve taken the easier path and fought an aging Oscar for more money (like floyd did), but he didnt. Give the guy some respect for taking on the hardest fight possible.

No, he didn't fight Oscar, he fought the faded Castillo. What's your point?

achillesthegreat

07-31-2007, 02:36 PM

Throw in money from Sky, PPV, Sponsors, HBO etc and he goes home with probably 20 mil!

Jinx

07-31-2007, 02:46 PM

if by some miracle from God that Hatton wins, he can get an even bigger payday against DLH...

Guru_Too_You

07-31-2007, 03:51 PM

He couldve had one now. I think he's more for legacy than he is for money.

Not in this post you didnt.

Ok, in response to 2 and 3

2. It was clear to anyone who follows the sport, that Hatton took a 3 fight deal from HBO in order to build up exposure in the States, and eventually face off with Floyd. If Floyd wanted to interupt that, then Hatton was going to make it worth his while. There was no way on earth that they would've paid Hatton a decent percentage of the purse given that he was a virtual "unknown" here in the states. That would've been Floyd's camp's excuse not to pay Hatton accordingly.

jonesjrp4p1

07-31-2007, 03:55 PM

y not, there is always a possibility I could land a Tarver on RJ.:yep

lets say 1 in 1000000000000 tries you might land that one punch and i still doubt it will happen in that many tries

Danny Ocean

07-31-2007, 03:57 PM

Whats my point? Did Ricky not have the "OPTION" of fighting either Oscar or Floyd in his next fight? Ok, who did he choose? He chose Floyd. A riskier fight for less money. Was that simple enough for you?

so your saying de la hoya would have fought hatton in december

Guru_Too_You

07-31-2007, 03:57 PM

In "that" post, i was trying to explain why Hatton turned down Floyd's initial offer. Cmon Guru, Hatton could've easily fought Oscar instead of Floyd for his upcoming fight. I doubt money is his #1 priority regarding his next fight. If that were so, he would've held out till May 5 for an additional 5-10mil.

Just going by what you said. And Oscar wouldnt have given him much more than he's getting now. Oscar just would have taken a bigger share.

Speculation I know, but thats just what I think.

teetop

07-31-2007, 04:25 PM

Sounds like a good payday. Does anyone know how much Floyd is getting paid and whats the contract with their PPV numbers?

Ricky's share of just the purse better be 8 mil, cause as many brits will
pile into vegas as pbf will bring american fans. Ricky's the draw here.
The split should be at least 40% for ricky, and that includes everything
down to the concessions. Only reason floyd gets more is because he's the champ at 147.

Jinx

07-31-2007, 04:35 PM

Whats my point? Did Ricky not have the "OPTION" of fighting either Oscar or Floyd in his next fight? Ok, who did he choose? He chose Floyd. A riskier fight for less money. Was that simple enough for you?

how is PBF a riskier fight than DLH? although slim, Hatton has a better shot at beating PBF at 147, than going to 154 to get cut up and KOed by DLH...

Imperial1

07-31-2007, 04:43 PM

Wonder what their PPV upside will be ?

BeReal

07-31-2007, 04:46 PM

Boom_Boom

07-31-2007, 04:56 PM

its

10 million for Hatton
&
16 million for PBF

digiram

07-31-2007, 05:51 PM

In "that" post, i was trying to explain why Hatton turned down Floyd's initial offer. Cmon Guru, Hatton could've easily fought Oscar instead of Floyd for his upcoming fight. I doubt money is his #1 priority regarding his next fight. If that were so, he would've held out till May 5 for an additional 5-10mil.

You talk as if you've seen an offer sent from and signed by DLH to Hatton, and as Guru pointed out, you're a hypocrite.

Please remove hattons nuts from your throat before posting.

digiram

07-31-2007, 05:53 PM

Damn, just give some props to Hatton and Mayweather. Neither one of them had to take this fight and they did. I am excited about it. Floyd has many options of who to fight and so does hatton, so for them to finally fight each other, whatever the reasons were in the past not to, then props to them.

Best post yet regarding this. Stop the bullshit back and forth about who gets what, who's the draw, etc...... That shit is for promoters, managers, networks to work with, not us fans who think we know more than we actually do.

Proud Warrior

07-31-2007, 06:48 PM

Fab2333

07-31-2007, 06:49 PM

lets say 1 in 1000000000000 tries you might land that one punch and i still doubt it will happen in that many tries

hey you never know lol. I already said i was gonna lose lol. But theres always that 1% chance of something happening. When Tarver caught RJ, i never thought it could ever happen. But it did. COuld get lcuky, but either way I would b 8million dollars richer lol

psychopath

07-31-2007, 06:56 PM

Is Hatton really only getting 8 million for this fight?

:yikes Only?

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Fab2333

07-31-2007, 07:04 PM

:yikes Only?

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yeah like 8million is chump change lol. Please Hatton call me and I will take the fight instead for that money. I would take an L gladly, and laugh str to the bank with it hahahahahaaaa lol

Ramshall1

07-31-2007, 07:06 PM

Please, dont bring the word 8 Million . . . in a FMJ discussion. . . Fraud fans dont like to be reminded of his ducking ways.

psychopath

07-31-2007, 07:11 PM

:thumbsup:deal:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
yeah like 8million is chump change lol. Please Hatton call me and I will take the fight instead for that money. I would take an L gladly, and laugh str to the bank with it hahahahahaaaa lol

:lol: :good

Fab2333

07-31-2007, 07:13 PM

Please, dont bring the word 8 Million . . . in a FMJ discussion. . . Fraud fans dont like to be reminded of his ducking ways.

I know you are not referring to Margarito Ramshall, when you are speaking of the 8million?

Ramshall1

07-31-2007, 07:15 PM

I know you are not referring to Margarito Ramshall, when you are speaking of the 8million?

thats the 8 mil he ducked, no ifs ands or butts about it.

Fab2333

07-31-2007, 07:21 PM

thats the 8 mil he ducked, no if ands or butts about it. Im no floyd hugger or nothin but you have to think of it if you were Floyd. Why would you fight some1 who relatively nobody knows for 8million dollars, when you can get the same payday fighting a fighter who people knew at the time for the same money and the linear belt. If you were a fighter you wouldnt do it neither. Margarito didnt do anything to merit a shot at the p4p champ. If he would have beaten Williams, and a Cotto, or mosley, or someone of the magnitude. Then I say he deserves a shot then. FLoyd for MArgarito would have been his step into stardom. And floyd wasnt tryin 2 make some1 bigger on his account. That was the smarter move to me personally. People gon say he ducked him, but I think it was just smarter. If Margarito comes back and wins a couple of meaningful fights, I woul love to see him and Floyd get it on.

Ramshall1

07-31-2007, 07:36 PM

Im no floyd hugger or nothin but you have to think of it if you were Floyd. Why would you fight some1 who relatively nobody knows for 8million dollars, when you can get the same payday fighting a fighter who people knew at the time for the same money and the linear belt. If you were a fighter you wouldnt do it neither. Margarito didnt do anything to merit a shot at the p4p champ. If he would have beaten Williams, and a Cotto, or mosley, or someone of the magnitude. Then I say he deserves a shot then. FLoyd for MArgarito would have been his step into stardom. And floyd wasnt tryin 2 make some1 bigger on his account. That was the smarter move to me personally. People gon say he ducked him, but I think it was just smarter. If Margarito comes back and wins a couple of meaningful fights, I woul love to see him and Floyd get it on.

Ive been over this before.

Fraud pissed away the 8 mil offer before Baldy even got in the ring with Gatti - for all he knew Gatti coulda outboxed Baldy and there would have been no interest in a FMJ-Gatti rematch.

Add to it, Fraud had to give Goosen a cut of his next fight (DLH) - to get overpaid for the Baldy . . .concidentally got the exact amount he was accused of ducking :roll: .

So Goosen's cut of the DLH purse was the price FMJ was willing to pay to get out of fighting AM. . . cause AM's offer was a one fight deal.

nervousxtian

07-31-2007, 07:40 PM

I still don't think 8million was really on the table to fight Margorito, because it couldn't draw enough to pay that.

Look at Margo's last fight, Floyd can draw, but not enough to cover a 8 mil purse against Margarito.

He drew with Hoya because of Hoya, and he'll draw with Hatton because of Hatton.

It takes two to make a big payday fight, or one Mike Tyson.

Floyd is no Tyson-level draw, and Margarito wasn't big enough to pull a "good" PPV number.

1lehudson

07-31-2007, 07:45 PM

8mil+ is a good payday for Ricky. He could've pulled a "Floyd" and took a fight with Oscar for more money, but he didnt. Props to Hatton. Now break Floyd's fucking ribs!!!Oscar is eyeing Cotto, Hatton doesnt have that oscar option.

Ramshall1

07-31-2007, 07:46 PM

Toopretty

07-31-2007, 08:33 PM

Ive been over this before.

Fraud pissed away the 8 mil offer before Baldy even got in the ring with Gatti - for all he knew Gatti coulda outboxed Baldy and there would have been no interest in a FMJ-Gatti rematch.

Add to it, Fraud had to give Goosen a cut of his next fight (DLH) - to get overpaid for the Baldy . . .concidentally got the exact amount he was accused of ducking :roll: .

So Goosen's cut of the DLH purse was the price FMJ was willing to pay to get out of fighting AM. . . cause AM's offer was a one fight deal.
What are you talking about. The ODH FLoyd fight was not even a done deal. SOURCE? or shut up. Floyd will get paid money to pay money back. Get out of here. Goosen gave margarito his biggest pay day and he wont give floyd 8. Come on, the fight did 300k ppv buys so if floyd got 10% of that and 6 mill he made out even. Margarito/Floyd would not even of been ppv.

Toopretty

07-31-2007, 08:37 PM

Its a sad day for if a guy got to buy a fight instead of earning it the ring:rofl :rofl :rofl I mean for real think about it. You are hot off a win against..against.... Gomez..:rofl and you call out the best p4p fighter in the sport then say he is ducking you with your all hype 8 mill that the fighter was going to make the same money or more(ODH) in the first place. I guarantee floyd walked away with around 8 and the end of the day. :nut :rofl That reckless talking clown is dwelling on that 8 mill and its making is fuck partner margarito look even worse. What can Marg say. I beat Cintron a few years ago..lol Cotto beat more respectable fighters then him. And margarito is supposed to be a real fighter. WOW. With no collateral but his promoters bank account that he would of went into the negative with. :blood

surreal deal

07-31-2007, 09:24 PM

I 2nd that, wouldnt this be Hattons biggest Payday to date. Give me 8 million to fight Floyd, granted I am at 162 pounds right now boxing. I would damn near have to kill myself to make 147. But for 8 million, I would sure as hell make it. I would go and give it my all, If i lose which 9x's out of 10 I will. I will be 8million dollars richer.
"9 out of 10"?!:huh :?
so if you fought floyd,say, 30 times, in proper fights you'd win about 3.thats bloody good.

ruizfan

07-31-2007, 09:30 PM

Its not much. i mean he's English and its only 4 million Pounds where it used to be 6. Add to that tax and expenses, he's lucky if he ends up with 2. Now thats not worth losing the O on his record.

nervousxtian

07-31-2007, 09:36 PM

:patsch not even Fraud made this sad excuse.

The 8 mil offer was real, AM was willing to take short money to make it happen. . . Fraud pussed out - plain and simple.

Bullshit. The fight wouldn't have earned enough to pay Floyd his purse, let alone pay Margarito shit.

You bought the hype hook, line, and sinker. Margarito was the hype job, they used the bullshit offers to Floyd to get his name out there. It was nothing but a ploy to make people think Floyd was ducking Margarito, but the offer probably was never really anything more than bullshit spewing from the promoters mouth.

Shotgun

07-31-2007, 11:13 PM

Bullshit. The fight wouldn't have earned enough to pay Floyd his purse, let alone pay Margarito shit.

Because Baldomir is sooooooooooooo much more of draw than Margarito right :roll:

Toopretty

07-31-2007, 11:21 PM

Because Baldomir is sooooooooooooo much more of draw than Margarito right :roll:

Yeah, he beat gatti and judah in the same year. He was the cinderella man of boxing. He got upset of the year and everything. He fought named fighters. Margarito is and was nobody fighting other nobodies. Judah and Gatti are household. And Baldomir was the recognized WBC champ. FLOYD ALWAYS GOES AFTER THE WBC NO MATTER WHO HAS IT..EMERITUS BITCH

Boom_Boom

08-01-2007, 02:24 AM

Source?

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Hatton 5 million pounds = $10,155,850

Mayweather 8 million pounds = $16,249,360

psychopath

08-01-2007, 02:41 AM

Bullshit. The fight wouldn't have earned enough to pay Floyd his purse, let alone pay Margarito shit.

You bought the hype hook, line, and sinker. Margarito was the hype job, they used the bullshit offers to Floyd to get his name out there. It was nothing but a ploy to make people think Floyd was ducking Margarito, but the offer probably was never really anything more than bullshit spewing from the promoters mouth.

Probably? :huh

Sorry dude, that offer was for real. :yep That was all over the news, in broadcast, in print and in cyber. If that was just just a ploy how come the very smart Mayweather with the big loud mouth didn't say so? :think

Instead he came out with bullshit excuses . . . it could have been eassier and much better if Floyd "exposed" that it's just a ploy and not a serious offer. It could have blown back into the promoters faces.

Can't you explain that?

:D :lol:

bill poster

08-01-2007, 03:56 AM

Personally think he should be on $20 mil. He is a very popular fighter!Hatton brings a lot to the table and is undervalued- 20,000 brits are expected to make the trip, PPV won't be on a scale with Oscar but still will be massive for this fight. How much did Oscar make for last fight? $50-70 mil.

BoppaZoo

08-01-2007, 04:41 AM

8 million dollars. please.

thats enough. plus he also gets PPV money aswell as his endorsment money from sponsors aswell.

by the time the fight is all said and done he will probably get 10 million.

now for a guy like Hatton thats plenty. actually come to think of it for any boxer 10 million dollars is enough.