View Full Version : will hatton give floyd a tougher fight than zab??
Relentless
07-31-2007, 04:19 PM
:huh
ChampionsForever
07-31-2007, 04:20 PM
Zab didnt win, of course he will :yep
Danny Ocean
07-31-2007, 04:20 PM
yes zab was dangerous for 3 rounds maybe 4 and even when he was dangerous he didnt look remotely like winning the fight
brooklyn1550
07-31-2007, 04:22 PM
Yes
Pimp C
07-31-2007, 04:23 PM
Zab is more of a stylistic nightmare to PBF than Hatton will be. Zab is a speedy southpaw with a jab, pop and good movement. Hatton has none of these to keep PBF honest.
Zab is more of a stylistic nightmare to PBF than Hatton will be. Zab is a speedy southpaw with a jab, pop and good movement. Hatton has none of these to keep PBF honest.
Castillo and De La Hoya gave Mayweather more troubles than Zab, and they did so because they applied lots of pressure and threw lots of shots.
Hatton is going to do exactly the same.
Zab's dominance over Mayweather is overstated. He did well, but was outclassed. Of course Hatton is going to do better than Judah, just on the basis that he's a better fighter if nothing else.
i see Hatton winning 4 rds tops, so my answer is no he won't do better Zab...he'll do about as good as Zab did...
Pimp C
07-31-2007, 04:33 PM
Castillo and De La Hoya gave Mayweather more troubles than Zab, and they did so because they applied lots of pressure and threw lots of shots.
Hatton is going to do exactly the same.
Zab's dominance over Mayweather is overstated. He did well, but was outclassed. Of course Hatton is going to do better than Judah, just on the basis that he's a better fighter if nothing else.
Oscar gave PBF trouble early on with his jab before PBF took it away. Oscar also did nothing when he had PBF against the ropes but throw punches that were either countered, blocked or missed. Hatton doesn't have a jab to keep PBF honest like Oscar did. Not to mention Oscar's power is a lot more than Hattons.
Castillo at his prime was a much better boxer than Hatton he had a jab and had a better outside as well as inside boxing game than Hatton. He also had more power as well.
Zab's advantage over over PBF is in his speed(explosiveness) and his southpaw stance. The way Zab caught PBF coming in and knocked him off balance was a thing of beauty no way does Hatton have the speed or counter punching ability to do this.
dragosuhail
07-31-2007, 04:42 PM
i believe there's a decent chance of a hatton decision or ko of some kind. however i am making floyd the easy favourite.
hatton will do better than zab simply because he has proven to walk through hell to win verses an hall of famer and potentially ATG in the junior welters. and he has beaten some solid competiton despite some adversity. something which zab judah is not capable of doing.
hatton will simply be a stronger, faster, more vicious version of the castillio that fought mayweather in their first fight.
yes i agree castillio has better technique than hatton but it's not but a huge margin as some would think. and hatton is naturally heavier than the castillio that argubaly won verses mayweather so why is it out of the realm of possiblity?
the floyd fans are really underestimating hatton. i did the same thing at one stage. hatton has an almost superhuman desire to win. i think hatton will rise to the occassion, but i say this.
if mayweather wins, he will need to not only fight a perfect fight, but throw LOTS of punches, something he hasn't done lately in the heavier ranks. hatton by nature throws a LOT. it might come down to effective aggression and if so, hatton has a very good chance of winning on the scorecards despite a most likely very low hit percentage :thumbsup
Sheehan
07-31-2007, 04:48 PM
For sure Hatton'll give a tougher fight than zab, Hatton has landed the biggest fight he'll ever get and he's gonna be in frighteningly (did I just create a word?:huh ) good form to get the job done.
Oscar gave PBF trouble early on with his jab before PBF took it away. Oscar also did nothing when he had PBF against the ropes but throw punches that were either countered, blocked or missed. Hatton doesn't have a jab to keep PBF honest like Oscar did. Not to mention Oscar's power is a lot more than Hattons.De La Hoya's reliance on his jab in that fight is way exaggerated. People say "He lost because he stopped throwing it", but he stopped throwing it because he was fucking tired! His jab was an effect of his lack of stamina. Sure, maybe it was doing a good job, but you can't put him losing down to Mayweather figuring out that punch, because he was throwing a lot less punches.
The jab wasn't that effective. It just so happens that when he stopped throwing it, he stopped punching a lot at all.
Castillo at his prime was a much better boxer than Hatton he had a jab and had a better outside as well as inside boxing game than Hatton. He also had more power as well.I don't agree - Especially about power. Look at the Corrales fight. How mny times did Floyd knock him down? More than Castillo the first time around, and Mayweather isn't as good a puncher as Hatton. Castillo was more precise and had better technique, but as far as power goes, Hatton wins no problem.
I can't be arsed going over it, but Hatton is a better in-fighter too. They're both fucking great at it though, so it's a stupid argument really. Even if Hatton isn't as good, he has attributes Castillo didn't have, which even it out. Strength, punch output, chin, awkwardness etc..
Zab's advantage over over PBF is in his speed(explosiveness) and his southpaw stance. The way Zab caught PBF coming in and knocked him off balance was a thing of beauty no way does Hatton have the speed or counter punching ability to do this.I know, but Hatton doesn't fight like that at all. He's a completely different fighter. If, say, Cotto vs. DLH happens, it'd be like me saying "Whitiker gave De la Hoya problems, and Cotto isn't a great defensive fighter, os he can't win". What is more realistic is saying "Tito gave DLH problems, and Cotto fights like Trinidad".
The styles difference between Hatton and Judah is so huge, it's stupid arguing the differences in the two fighters. They have nothing in common, so let's leave Judah out of this.
Instead, JLC gave Mayweather more problems than anyone, and Hatton is very like Castillo. Probably more of a threat too.
Marnoff
07-31-2007, 04:55 PM
Zab's advantage over over PBF is in his speed(explosiveness) and his southpaw stance. The way Zab caught PBF coming in and knocked him off balance was a thing of beauty no way does Hatton have the speed or counter punching ability to do this.
I fully agree. Zab's explosive quickness was what enabled him to challenge Floyd early on. Floyd is going to be able to see Hatton coming and anticipate the flow, it won't be a razorblade striking attack like from Zab.
I believe Judah gave Floyd a tougher fight than Hatton will be able to. I'm very glad that even after Zab lost to Baldomir, Floyd and him fought. I would have always wondered how they would have stacked up, as I believe Zab came in at or near his best on the night he fought Floyd.
Marnoff
07-31-2007, 04:57 PM
I can't be arsed going over it, but Hatton is a better in-fighter too. They're both fucking great at it though, so it's a stupid argument really. Even if Hatton isn't as good, he has attributes Castillo didn't have, which even it out.
So hang on, he is a better in-fighter, but then... "even if he isn't"? Be decisive, even if sometimes you'll be wrong. Fence sitting just makes you look cowardly.
Edit: I just read it again, and you even say... "which even it out". So in effect you're saying that Hatton is better, worse, and even, to Castillo.
Marnoff
07-31-2007, 04:59 PM
Zab also is a front runner with no heart...
Hatton has more stamina, heart, WAY better chin, applies more pressure, goes to the body harder and get's stronger as the fight goes on!
I'd say that's enough to keep Fraud honest en route to losing a close decision.
I think Zab showed a lot of heart against Cotto, and may have been more effective if low blows hadn't interrupted him early on.
So hang on, he is a better in-fighter, but then... "even if he isn't"? Be decisive, even if sometimes you'll be wrong. Fence sitting just makes you look cowardly.
Edit: I just read it again, and you even say... "which even it out". So in effect you're saying that Hatton is better, worse, and even, to Castillo.
Are you serious, or just having a laugh?
Just incase you aren't, I was covering my point - being thorough. I think Hatton is a better in-fighter, but said "even if he wasn't", to answer the reply from Pimp C, which would have been "He isn't". I don't like making a whole load of posts per thread, so I was just thinking a couple of steps ahead.
I'm not back tracking or anything like that, however, I am answering questions I know will be asked.
It's like asking yourself a rhetorical question, then answering it yourself.
Just to make it clear, yes I think Hatton does have better in-fighting skills.
Alo2006
07-31-2007, 05:10 PM
Oscar gave PBF trouble early on with his jab before PBF took it away. Oscar also did nothing when he had PBF against the ropes but throw punches that were either countered, blocked or missed. Hatton doesn't have a jab to keep PBF honest like Oscar did. Not to mention Oscar's power is a lot more than Hattons.
Castillo at his prime was a much better boxer than Hatton he had a jab and had a better outside as well as inside boxing game than Hatton. He also had more power as well.
Zab's advantage over over PBF is in his speed(explosiveness) and his southpaw stance. The way Zab caught PBF coming in and knocked him off balance was a thing of beauty no way does Hatton have the speed or counter punching ability to do this.
Got to agree, well said.
digiram
07-31-2007, 06:07 PM
Castillo at his prime was a much better boxer than Hatton he had a jab and had a better outside as well as inside boxing game than Hatton. He also had more power as well.
Yap. Castillo is a great inside boxer who knows how to use jabs, bob and weaves to get tot he inside.
Hatton just lunges and leaps right in with a left hook or straight right and tries to hold his opponent and attack them durring breaks from the clinch. When he lunges, PBF will time it and in the clinch Hatton will have to deal with forearms to the throat or his head will just be pushed down. I've seen Floyd do this many time against fighters that try to hold him.
I really think that PBF will KO Ricky for sure between the 9th - 11th round.
paulfv
07-31-2007, 06:12 PM
Yes, Hatton will be a tougher fight than was Zab for PBF
psychopath
07-31-2007, 06:32 PM
will hatton give floyd a tougher fight than zab??
Of course! :yep What do you expect? A walk in the park? :lol:
Hatton's never been stopped, and I don't think he's gonna go in there just to collect his paycheck.
madjabber
07-31-2007, 06:34 PM
I am not a big Floyd fan but I think Ricky will get his ears boxed off by the end of this fight, However Hatton can win if he somehow gets the better end of a split decision.
rodney
07-31-2007, 09:09 PM
No way.
Fat Boys best weapon would be his face, hoping Floyd breaks a hand.
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