View Full Version : Dan Henderson vs Michael Bisping is.... ON!!!
québecwarrior
09-19-2008, 08:43 PM
They are gonna coach the TUF 9 USA vs UK.!!!
Bisping better beat Leben, 'cause I want to see that for real.
Their poster boy for UK is gonna get koed!!!
war hendo!!!
If Bisping manages to get by Leben, Henderson will smash him. Now here's the real question: What does the UFC do if Michael gets laid out by a wild "Crippler" hook?
In any event, I think Hendo/Bisping has an interesting dynamic and should make for a great TUF.
ufoalf
09-19-2008, 09:27 PM
Wow, Bisping coach?
Thats just setting Bisping up to get raped and donkey punched. I cant really think of anything Bisping can do to Hendo, unless Hendo's age catched up with him between now and then.
This isn't even competitive. More of star hype, Bisping the U.K. hopeful who doesn't have a prayer, but will bring in ratings. Versus Henderson, the odds on favorite, a who's who in MMA that isn't as popular in the mainstream U.S. as he was in Japan. U.S. fans get what they want, Brit gets his face pushed in by a U.S. Olympian.
Should make it a more interesting matchup, like Quarry. I'm sure the Drama will be good though. Bisping will run his mouth, and in the end Henderson will shut him the fuck up.
québecwarrior
09-19-2008, 10:20 PM
but if Bisping win this, he is gonna force UFC to give him a title fight vs A.Silva
but if Bisping win this, he is gonna force UFC to give him a title fight vs A.Silva
If by some miracle of God he got by Henderson, Silva would dry rub Bisping, toss him on a hot grill, then lather him with barbecue sauce at the end.
québecwarrior
09-19-2008, 11:06 PM
If by some miracle of God he got by Henderson, Silva would dry rub Bisping, toss him on a hot grill, then lather him with barbecue sauce at the end.
:lol:
yeah
P.Cote has a better chance to beat Silva than Bisping.
Cote would KO Bisping
rekcutnevets
09-19-2008, 11:38 PM
What is the source of this?
Henderson has been competing at 185 for his last couple fights. Bisping has moved to 205. Is this for real?
ufoalf
09-19-2008, 11:57 PM
What is the source of this?
Henderson has been competing at 185 for his last couple fights. Bisping has moved to 205. Is this for real?
:huh
He was 205 and moved down...
chimba
09-20-2008, 12:12 AM
News just in TUF 10 coaches!!!
Josh Burkamnn and Karo Parisyan
Whoever wins becomes the official gatekeeper of the WW division
News just in TUF 10 coaches!!!
Josh Burkamnn and Karo Parisyan
Whoever wins becomes the official gatekeeper of the WW division
Hahah.
The thought of that actually being a TUF makes me want to cry.
ufoalf
09-20-2008, 01:51 AM
Anyone noticing a trend in TUF competitors becoming coaches? Forrest, now Bisping. Not necessarily a bad thing, but awkward nonetheless.
chimba
09-20-2008, 01:52 AM
Hahah.
The thought of that actually being a TUF makes me want to cry.
Ohh its coming..u just wait...its going stronger than ever..they now even have a montage of past TUffers becoming champs...
Actually a future TUF will be more like Nate Diaz/Karo lol..and people will be watching that shit
Polymath
09-20-2008, 02:00 AM
Hope Hendo doesn't have to waste to much time on this (though I would like to see his right hand decapitate Bisping); he's not getting any younger and if hes going to beat Silva it'd better be soon.
codeman99998
09-20-2008, 05:43 AM
Bisping hasn't exactly been beating the best of the best, but he has been winning for the most part. He beat Schaefer at 205, and Schaefer just beat Alexander. Sure he lost to Rashad at 205, but Rashad is still undefeated and just defeated Chuck. Also, he TECHNICALLY won a split decision over Matt Hamil, and as BS as I felt that decision was, a win is a win is a win.
Bisping has to step up in class at 185 and there are few elite 185ers. You got Hendo, Silva, and Franklin (if he ever comes back down). Of those three, I think Hendo is probably the best match for him. He doesn't yet deserve Silva and Franklin is at 205 for a bit.
It'll give Bisping critics and fans alike some real proof as to where Bisping stands at MW. If he beats Hendo, he probably deserves a shot at Silva. Then, hopefully, silva can start tearing into some LHWs.
scurlaruntings
09-20-2008, 05:57 AM
Now we REALLY get to see what Bisping is made of. Hendo will be in his grill ALL night. The guy has great wrestling and is a top notch striker. I dont see how Bisping can win this.
dwilson
09-20-2008, 09:35 AM
Bisping is ok but no way near Hendo. He should make an entertaining coach.
...leben might just throw a big hook shaped spanner in the works..he is no walkover and will come to win for sure...
cdnboxing
09-20-2008, 05:17 PM
Bisping better make sure he gets through leben. Or else this is just not very appealing. They are really trying to market Bisping as their England posterboy. Too bad its come with mixed results.
Hendo/Bisping is a fairly good matchup.
jimmie
09-20-2008, 05:24 PM
Wow I cant believe they are setting this up with Chris Leben still standing in the way. The man has ridiculous punching power in that left hand I can easily see Bisping needing jaw surgery after this fight.
Wow I cant believe they are setting this up with Chris Leben still standing in the way. The man has ridiculous punching power in that left hand I can easily see Bisping needing jaw surgery after this fight.
Yeah, I hope Leben knocks him out. That would certainly change the UFC's plan.
Beebs
09-20-2008, 08:56 PM
Hendo is going to skullfuck Bisping, assuming Leben doesn't get to him first.
skier47
09-21-2008, 12:28 PM
Bisping hasn't exactly been beating the best of the best, but he has been winning for the most part. He beat Schaefer at 205, and Schaefer just beat Alexander. Sure he lost to Rashad at 205, but Rashad is still undefeated and just defeated Chuck. Also, he TECHNICALLY won a split decision over Matt Hamil, and as BS as I felt that decision was, a win is a win is a win.
Bisping has to step up in class at 185 and there are few elite 185ers. You got Hendo, Silva, and Franklin (if he ever comes back down). Of those three, I think Hendo is probably the best match for him. He doesn't yet deserve Silva and Franklin is at 205 for a bit.
It'll give Bisping critics and fans alike some real proof as to where Bisping stands at MW. If he beats Hendo, he probably deserves a shot at Silva. Then, hopefully, silva can start tearing into some LHWs.
Until I read this postI was wondering if I was thinking of a different
Hendo than the one who got stomped so badly by Silva. Also, a
different Bisping than the one who should of gotten a draw against
Rashad and like you said beat Schaefer who looked like a beast
last night defeating Houston. Rashad has never been pushed
and challenged in every facet of the MMA game like he was
against the talented Bisping. Rashad slightly dominated the
ground action while Bisping was slicker and the more dynamic
striker. I fear we have more 14 year old boys and general
weak-minded wackjobs from the general boxing forum slowly
but inexorably infecting this MMA forum with their idiocy. See
above posts. Anyway this was a good analysis of the situation.
Please keep posting. Thanks.
berserkafied
09-22-2008, 05:00 AM
I think the reason behind having Bisping as one of the coaches is that i heard the next TUF is USA v UK (Welter + Middle)
rekcutnevets
09-22-2008, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by ufoalf
He was 205 and moved down...
When I'm drinking, I really know what I'm talking about.
RichDam
09-22-2008, 10:52 AM
Until I read this postI was wondering if I was thinking of a different
Hendo than the one who got stomped so badly by Silva. Also, a
different Bisping than the one who should of gotten a draw against
Rashad and like you said beat Schaefer who looked like a beast
last night defeating Houston. Rashad has never been pushed
and challenged in every facet of the MMA game like he was
against the talented Bisping. Rashad slightly dominated the
ground action while Bisping was slicker and the more dynamic
striker. I fear we have more 14 year old boys and general
weak-minded wackjobs from the general boxing forum slowly
but inexorably infecting this MMA forum with their idiocy. See
above posts. Anyway this was a good analysis of the situation.
Please keep posting. Thanks.
Good post. Lot of people letting their prejudice towards Bisping cloud their judgement of a fight. Bisping halts Leben in the first by the way. Far superior in all departments.
Wilhelm
09-22-2008, 12:38 PM
Good post. Lot of people letting their prejudice towards Bisping cloud their judgement of a fight. Bisping halts Leben in the first by the way. Far superior in all departments.
Bisping has better offense on the ground and better footwork and kicks on the feet, but no way does Bisping have Leben's one punch KO power. If Leben gets stopped in this fight it will be a sub or a cut, not a KO. If Bisping gets stopped it will be a KO, not a sub.
This will be a decent fight. Stop making Bisping sound better than he is.
skier47
09-22-2008, 08:51 PM
Bisping has better offense on the ground and better footwork and kicks on the feet, but no way does Bisping have Leben's one punch KO power. If Leben gets stopped in this fight it will be a sub or a cut, not a KO. If Bisping gets stopped it will be a KO, not a sub.
This will be a decent fight. Stop making Bisping sound better than he is.
I agree about Leben's one punch power and moreover he has a granite jaw. We have yet to see how good Bisping is but his fight against Rashad showed he has some awesome potential. Anyway I am looking forward to the Leben fight as Chris is very dangerous on his feet and Bisping will have to show improved defense to avoid Leben's massive punching power. IMO if Bisping dispatches Leben with ease he is a danger to anyone save Silva. If Silva moves out of Bisping's division I like his chances to become champ.
sugarngold
09-22-2008, 11:04 PM
I don't think Bisping will make it past Leben.
SouthpawSlayer
09-23-2008, 06:14 AM
there should be no talk of this cause bisping is getting koed by leben
rekcutnevets
09-23-2008, 10:11 AM
If Leben pulls off the win, will this show still come off? Henderson is still the US' premier middleweight. Will Bisping still be the UK's, and will that be enough to make a TUF series featuring them matter?
I don't know how all of this would stack up. A Bisping victory over Leben would make the the picture a little less blurry. That way, whoever wins between Henderson and Bisping will deserve a shot at Silva. If Bisping were to lose to Leben, and pull off the unlikely victory against Henderson, Leben would be able to argue that he deserves the shot at Silva.
berserkafied
09-23-2008, 10:46 AM
If Leben pulls off the win, will this show still come off? Henderson is still the US' premier middleweight. Will Bisping still be the UK's, and will that be enough to make a TUF series featuring them matter?
I don't know how all of this would stack up. A Bisping victory over Leben would make the the picture a little less blurry. That way, whoever wins between Henderson and Bisping will deserve a shot at Silva. If Bisping were to lose to Leben, and pull off the unlikely victory against Henderson, Leben would be able to argue that he deserves the shot at Silva.
I don't know about a title shot, but there's no other option available as a British Coach from the UFC is there?
Big N Bad
09-23-2008, 12:10 PM
what makes you all this this guy doesnt stand a chance against hendo?
bispng is a real stubborn fighter. he is a true fighter. he has everything you want in a fighter, the attitude the skill the killer instinct.
skillwise he has been in with some good fighters and held his own, he won the tuf competition. he fought a hard/close fight with rashad evans.
its either you dont think much of bisping (through ignorance), either henderson is overrated or you guys dont know much about mma.
i think bisping could become a mma legend also he's a great character.
jimmie
09-24-2008, 10:36 PM
If Leben pulls off the win, will this show still come off? Henderson is still the US' premier middleweight. Will Bisping still be the UK's, and will that be enough to make a TUF series featuring them matter?
I don't know how all of this would stack up. A Bisping victory over Leben would make the the picture a little less blurry. That way, whoever wins between Henderson and Bisping will deserve a shot at Silva. If Bisping were to lose to Leben, and pull off the unlikely victory against Henderson, Leben would be able to argue that he deserves the shot at Silva.
Leben will need to kill alot of guys to argue he deserves a Silva rematch. Im a Chris Leben fan but damn man his fight with Silva was just brutal.
scurlaruntings
09-25-2008, 03:47 AM
i find it hilarious considering mma over the past 2 years that people are still underestimating TUF fighters,and still consider pride fighters better!
henderson looks horrible at 185 and is clearly slowing down,i mean he is 40 nearly so for anyone to say bisping a well rounded strong hungry and younger fighter working his way up(who lets not forget will get tips off his best friend quinton jackson on how to deal with henderson)has no chance is clearly stupid or a hendo groupie.Yup TUF is the REAL DEAL!:lol:
LEEROYBARNES
09-25-2008, 06:38 PM
I Can Guerantee All Of You That Mike Is Not Confirmed To Fight Hendo Nor Has He Yet Been Offered The Job Of Coach On Tuf9
Beebs
09-25-2008, 06:46 PM
what makes you all this this guy doesnt stand a chance against hendo?
bispng is a real stubborn fighter. he is a true fighter. he has everything you want in a fighter, the attitude the skill the killer instinct.
He will be the most stubborn true fighter laying unconscious on the ground.
ufoalf
09-25-2008, 06:51 PM
He will be the most stubborn true fighter laying unconscious on the ground.
:lol:
Bill Butcher
09-26-2008, 03:51 AM
I think you guys might be underestimating Bisping, he has never came close to be sub`d or KO`d & Henderson looked like shit vs Andy Silva.
Id fancy this one will go to a close pts decision.
Dantes
09-26-2008, 04:18 AM
IF it happens, hendo via rape. He'll knock the shit out of Bisping.
I think you guys might be underestimating Bisping, he has never came close to be sub`d or KO`d & Henderson looked like shit vs Andy Silva.
Id fancy this one will go to a close pts decision.
Henderson looked like shit against Anderson? He won the first round and winning anyround against Anderson isn't to shabby.
joe the great
09-27-2008, 10:04 AM
That should be a good one.
codeman99998
09-27-2008, 05:13 PM
If Leben pulls off the win, will this show still come off? Henderson is still the US' premier middleweight. Will Bisping still be the UK's, and will that be enough to make a TUF series featuring them matter?
I don't know how all of this would stack up. A Bisping victory over Leben would make the the picture a little less blurry. That way, whoever wins between Henderson and Bisping will deserve a shot at Silva. If Bisping were to lose to Leben, and pull off the unlikely victory against Henderson, Leben would be able to argue that he deserves the shot at Silva.
After their first fight, I don't know that Leben wants anything to do with Silva.
rekcutnevets
09-27-2008, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by codeman99998
After their first fight, I don't know that Leben wants anything to do with Silva.
You are absolutely right. I was merely pointing out how complicated things could get if things played out a certain way.
jimmie
09-27-2008, 08:42 PM
Yup TUF is the REAL DEAL!:lol:
Yeah real funny im guessing you dont consider Kenny Florian,Chris Leben,Mike Swick,Forrest Griffin,Josh Koscheck,Joe Stevenson,Rashad Evans,Nate Quarry,Diego Sanchez,Marcus Davis,Keith Jardines,Michael Bisping,Matt Wiman,Gray Manyard,Joe Lauzon,Nate Diaz or Mac Danzig to be quality fighters.
codeman99998
09-28-2008, 02:58 AM
TUF is the real deal and anyone who says otherwise NOW is just being stubborn.
I understand not backing up TUF fighters originally, it was easy to think they weren't legit, they were reality TV stars after all. And surely, not every TUF fighter or TUF champion is as good as others. But yeah, Jimmie, you are totally on point. TUF has produced (or, if not produced, discovered) some very good fighters, and the sport is better because of it.
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