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BIG WORM
09-21-2008, 08:55 AM
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BIG WORM
09-21-2008, 08:58 AM
i give him 50 - 60%

D-MAC
09-21-2008, 09:01 AM
I would give him a 30% chance of pulling it off.

I have to admit that it would be a surprise, but it wouldn't be the shock of the century.

FLINT ISLAND
09-21-2008, 09:01 AM
Why Have You Missed Out 40-50

Thats Would I Would Give Him

America Comes Into It Too

Its Outside The Comfort Zone Of Cardiff Ice Rink

Last Time Calzaghe Was Lucky To Win In America

Vantage_West
09-21-2008, 09:02 AM
i think he has better chances than some predict.

he doesnt have that bounce he showed earlier . he seems more contempt to lean on the ropes covered up then release a good combo then bop out of there.

FLINT ISLAND
09-21-2008, 09:04 AM
40% Chance

The Odds Are Tilted Toward Calzaghe

70-30 At This Stage Of Their Career

But Because Of The America Elemnet I Tilt A Bit More Favour In Roys Direction

So Its

60-40 In Favour Of Calzaghe

WITH ROY GRACIOUS IN DEFEAT

But Jones 40% Some Of That Is Made Up Of The Unknown

How Much Has He Got Left

If He Truely Is Shot

This Could Be A

80-20 Fight For Calzaghe

If Roy Can Really Sum Up One Last Shot Its A 50-50

Taking All Things Into Account

My Final Rating Would Be

65-35 In Favour Of Calzaghe

BIG WORM
09-21-2008, 09:16 AM
Why Have You Missed Out 40-50

Thats Would I Would Give Him

America Comes Into It Too

Its Outside The Comfort Zone Of Cardiff Ice Rink

Last Time Calzaghe Was Lucky To Win In America

i should have done

steelem
09-21-2008, 09:22 AM
rjj has a chance of winning if he finds form

Ilesey
09-21-2008, 09:27 AM
30 - 40 percent. Most posters seem to have written Jones off and say that because Johnson and Taver knocked Jones out that either a) Calzaghe should knock Jones out as well, or b) Jones is totally washed up that Calzaghe should walk all over him.

I couldn't disagree more. From what I see BOTH fighters are not what they were and Jones is in far better shape that the losses against Johnson and Tarver would lead us to believe.

This will be a close fight and I am convinced it's going the distance. Afterwards both fighters will cover themselvves in glory but Calzaghe's workrate will be the telling factor.

Also, after this fight, I think both fighters call it a day.

toffeejack
09-21-2008, 09:33 AM
I give him a 30-40% of pulling it off and to me it wouldn't be the shock of the century like some believe.

I think people are forgetting that Calzaghe is going into his late thirties also and is way past his physical peak right now.

1stcontact
09-21-2008, 09:44 AM
I actually think it will be draw that way no one loses both will look good in it and it will be so clear cut a draw no rematch will ever be needed:bbb

warrior85
09-21-2008, 09:50 AM
30-40%

FLINT ISLAND
09-21-2008, 09:55 AM
30-40%

That seems to be the general feeling around here

TFFP
09-21-2008, 11:30 AM
Where is the 0%?

It's 0%.

KCD
09-21-2008, 11:32 AM
30- 40 %

I still think Jones will pose Calzaghe alot of problems even at this stage in his career.

Personally i would rather have seen Joe in against Pavlik, because as they say styles make fights and Pavliks style is made for Joe.

I think Joe is going to be victorious against Jones but i think he may have a rough ride along the way.

trotter
09-21-2008, 11:50 AM
rjj has a chance of winning if he finds form

I kind of disagree, I don't think it's form. He's 'shot' to use the common parlance. He finds it hard to release the punches these days and he is very worried about taking them.

Technically he can still do it, but mentally he seemingly can't.

konaman
09-21-2008, 11:54 AM
60/40 and ill... oh wait. 10-20%, Roy is going to need to put Joe on the canvas at least once to get the decision, and he lacks his old killer instinct to stop Joe even if he hurt him i think. Joe's style is still incredibly effective even as he ages and with his volume i simply think Roy cannot do enough volume-wise to get enough rounds in the bank, not without a KD or two (which isn't out of the question) at least.

Primadonna Kool
09-21-2008, 11:56 AM
Roy Jones Junior is going to win by knock out..!

TommyV
09-21-2008, 12:03 PM
37.5671294%

JonOli
09-21-2008, 12:15 PM
I realise that styles make fights, but is Joe a better fighter then Glen Johnson, and Tarver (who both KOed and outpointed Jones)?

Yes.

Is Jones a better fighter at 39, then he was 4 years ago when he lost to Johnson, and Tarver?

Extremely unlikely.

Roy is just going to gas really early IMO as Joe constantly piles on the pressure. Joe has a great chin, and Roy failed to knock out any of his last 3 mediocre (Tito at that weight) oponents one of whom is really a welter weight.

Looking at the hard facts I'd say 5 percent, but because it's superman Roy I'll say 25 percent.

BIG WORM
09-21-2008, 12:48 PM
Where is the 0%?

It's 0%.

nah it aint..... its about 60-70%

:good

good lad

TommyV
09-21-2008, 01:13 PM
nah it aint..... its about 60-70%

:good

good lad

70%?

:rofl

BIG WORM
09-21-2008, 01:18 PM
70%?

:rofl

yea wot

calzaghes shyte

why say jones has only got 0% of winning

BIG WORM
09-21-2008, 01:20 PM
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TommyV
09-21-2008, 01:24 PM
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196osh
09-21-2008, 01:25 PM
30% being generous.

:-(

Fat Joe
09-21-2008, 01:27 PM
20%

treva1977
09-21-2008, 01:32 PM
he has the chance of knocking joe out if joe tries to showboat.i hope he doesnt as showboating just dont suit joe and that is the only chance he is going to get dropped.

Dirty Bastard
09-22-2008, 10:11 AM
10 - 20 % again....being generous...

HOWEVER if roy stays off the ropes and lays the straight right hand when calzaghe begins his slapping he has A SLIGHT chance of winning on points if he pushed joe back allot!

BIG WORM
09-22-2008, 10:33 AM
honeslty i give him about 60-70% chance

D-MAC
09-22-2008, 10:50 AM
he has the chance of knocking joe out if joe tries to showboat.i hope he doesnt as showboating just dont suit joe and that is the only chance he is going to get dropped.


:lol:

So true.

To be honest it makes him look fucking ridiculous (a bit like the guy from that Offspring song: "all the girls say I'm pretty fly....for a white guy").

berserkafied
09-22-2008, 10:51 AM
30 - 40 percent. Most posters seem to have written Jones off and say that because Johnson and Taver knocked Jones out that either a) Calzaghe should knock Jones out as well, or b) Jones is totally washed up that Calzaghe should walk all over him.

I couldn't disagree more. From what I see BOTH fighters are not what they were and Jones is in far better shape that the losses against Johnson and Tarver would lead us to believe.

This will be a close fight and I am convinced it's going the distance. Afterwards both fighters will cover themselvves in glory but Calzaghe's workrate will be the telling factor.

Also, after this fight, I think both fighters call it a day.

Agreed...Although there is a slim chance of Pavlik v Calzaghe in 09 IMO

TommyV
09-22-2008, 11:28 AM
honeslty i give him about 60-70% chance

You got owned with my video reply.

Look at him in the Johnson video. He got put to sleep. :rofl

TFFP
09-22-2008, 11:36 AM
It wouldn't be the first time, nor the last Bailey has made a shitty prediction. He is reknowned for it I'd say.

dwilson
09-22-2008, 11:55 AM
About 70% chance but it depends on how shot he is.

BIG WORM
09-22-2008, 11:56 AM
You got owned with my video reply.

Look at him in the Johnson video. He got put to sleep. :rofl

look at joe in the hopkins fight getting dropped

achillesthegreat
09-22-2008, 11:58 AM
RJJ is a bad style match up for Calzaghe. I'm not sure if Joe has the strength and power to keep RJJ honest. Joe may have to overcome an early bout of awkwardness, like he did Hopkins. RJJ will make life very awkward for Joe and maybe win, unless he is done.

BIG WORM
09-22-2008, 11:58 AM
It wouldn't be the first time, nor the last Bailey has made a shitty prediction. He is reknowned for it I'd say.

if calzaghe gets beat what you gonna do with yourself?

TFFP
09-22-2008, 12:19 PM
if calzaghe gets beat what you gonna do with yourself?
I suppose I'll mope around for a few days, slam the dishwasher door shut, kick the bin as I walk past, drown my sorrows in a bottle of whiskey and possibly become an alcoholic

I think I'd get over it :good

BIG WORM
09-22-2008, 12:29 PM
I suppose I'll mope around for a few days, slam the dishwasher door shut, kick the bin as I walk past, drown my sorrows in a bottle of whiskey and possibly become an alcoholic

I think I'd get over it :good

roy jones TKO, calzaghe wont win

Bodysnatcher
09-22-2008, 12:54 PM
I'm putting my money on RJJ.

I just have a gut feeling that one of or a combination of a few factors might happen...

That Jones will show a flash of blinding speed and power and it'll be all over, that Calzaghe's hands will disintegrate after the first power shot he throws (big possibility) and that Calzaghe's reflexes will have declined just enough for Roy's decline to be less of a factor.

All unlikely I admit, but...just a hunch.

BIG WORM
09-22-2008, 01:02 PM
I'm putting my money on RJJ.

I just have a gut feeling that one of or a combination of a few factors might happen...

That Jones will show a flash of blinding speed and power and it'll be all over, that Calzaghe's hands will disintegrate after the first power shot he throws (big possibility) and that Calzaghe's reflexes will have declined just enough for Roy's decline to be less of a factor.

All unlikely I admit, but...just a hunch.

exacly theres loads of little factors that people are forgetting.. i can see calzaghe rushing at jones early and getting hurt, and if he dont rush at jones whats he gonna do, try and fight from distance!! where it would suit jones with that quick jab and them combinations he can throw from distance..

roy wont stand there stuck to the middle of the ring like kessler and lacy

unless calzaghe KOs jones his boxing skills dont compare

TommyV
09-22-2008, 01:47 PM
look at joe in the hopkins fight getting dropped

Yes, 'dropped'.

Dropped by a perfectly placed counter, he got up to win the fight.

Jones got put the fuck to sleep twice.

Diablo
09-22-2008, 01:59 PM
Id say 10%.. Jones is a big step down from fighting Hopkins so im surprised many on here are getting carried away.

Calzaghe can easily win a decision. Just needs to watch the odd leaping hook from Roy.

Joe might be in decline but Jones is further along and has worse stamina than Hopkins.

BIG WORM
09-22-2008, 02:44 PM
Yes, 'dropped'.

Dropped by a perfectly placed counter, he got up to win the fight.

Jones got put the fuck to sleep twice.

he got bullied about

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TFFP
09-22-2008, 03:27 PM
he got bullied about

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Oh my GAWD, he has a little scratch on his nose!

This is much worse than getting a standing month count from Glen Johnson, and Antonio Tarver, the man who got treated like Hoke-kins prison bitch.

You've turned my head.

Jones KO.

rooq
09-22-2008, 03:43 PM
calzaghe isn't knocking out jones. but theres a 30% chance of him getting stopped himself imo

rooq
09-22-2008, 03:47 PM
btw bailey, you should join the prediction league

steelem
09-22-2008, 03:50 PM
calzaghe to win this by 8 rounds

BIG WORM
09-22-2008, 04:15 PM
Oh my GAWD, he has a little scratch on his nose!

This is much worse than getting a standing month count from Glen Johnson, and Antonio Tarver, the man who got treated like Hoke-kins prison bitch.

You've turned my head.

Jones KO.

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thats the 3rd fight.. he made tarver look silly, he was cautious but still.... he showed improvements from the previous fight.. tarver didnt come close to knocking him out

it was because he came down from heavyweight.. each fight hes showed more and more of his former self

he looked flabby and sloppy in them tarver fights... from all the fat he gained at HW!!!!!

Diablo
09-22-2008, 04:54 PM
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thats the 3rd fight.. he made tarver look silly, he was cautious but still.... he showed improvements from the previous fight.. tarver didnt come close to knocking him out

it was because he came down from heavyweight.. each fight hes showed more and more of his former self

he looked flabby and sloppy in them tarver fights... from all the fat he gained at HW!!!!!

These delusions are frightning... last time Jones stopped anyone was over 6 years ago..Clinton Woods.

Tarver Jones III was 3 years after his heavyweight bout...but you think that excuse still holds weight then?

Part of me wouldnt mind seeing Jones get one last big win, hes been very respectful and likeable recently. But I just cant see it happening.

BIG WORM
09-22-2008, 05:17 PM
These delusions are frightning... last time Jones stopped anyone was over 6 years ago..Clinton Woods.

Tarver Jones III was 3 years after his heavyweight bout...but you think that excuse still holds weight then?

Part of me wouldnt mind seeing Jones get one last big win, hes been very respectful and likeable recently. But I just cant see it happening.

it dnt matter man, hes still gonna beat joe:patsch

BIG WORM
09-22-2008, 05:22 PM
It wouldn't be the first time, nor the last Bailey has made a shitty prediction. He is reknowned for it I'd say.

can cotto stop margarito?


"Absolutely

Margarito is going to take such a horrific beating with this mesh of styles. I won't be suprised to see a ref stoppage, or the towell thrown in"

- TFFP before the cotto fight

icemax
09-22-2008, 05:28 PM
My vote of 70-100% is one of wishful thinking.

cityofgod
09-22-2008, 06:43 PM
37.864531 %

TommyV
09-23-2008, 11:08 AM
can cotto stop margarito?


"Absolutely

Margarito is going to take such a horrific beating with this mesh of styles. I won't be suprised to see a ref stoppage, or the towell thrown in"

- TFFP before the cotto fight

He did take a beating you dumb shit. Look at his face after the fight, look at the shots he took. Just Cotto took a beating aswell. It wasn't inconceivable that Cotto could of stopped him through body shots, or after a lot of punishment the ref could of stepped in or his corner stopped the fight.

That's nothing compared to some of the dumb shit you've come up with.

Roy with a 70% chance of winning my fucking arse. Face it, your boy Roy got put the fuck to sleep twice, and can't beat any live opponent, only crappy super-middles in Anthony Hanshaw and fat blown up faded fighters in Trinidad.

BIG WORM
09-23-2008, 11:47 AM
He did take a beating you dumb shit. Look at his face after the fight, look at the shots he took. Just Cotto took a beating aswell. It wasn't inconceivable that Cotto could of stopped him through body shots, or after a lot of punishment the ref could of stepped in or his corner stopped the fight.

That's nothing compared to some of the dumb shit you've come up with.

Roy with a 70% chance of winning my fucking arse. Face it, your boy Roy got put the fuck to sleep twice, and can't beat any live opponent, only crappy super-middles in Anthony Hanshaw and fat blown up faded fighters in Trinidad.

yea coz he looked proper hurt, laughing everytime he got hit, he was lucky the ref didnt jump in and save him..... he strolled through cotto, that was a standard fight for him