View Full Version : Mosley by Brutal KO!!!!
compukiller
07-31-2007, 08:27 PM
Sorry, but I think Miguel goes down in Nov. :deal
Not a Cotto Hater, but I'm just sayin.....
ruizfan
07-31-2007, 08:29 PM
I agree and it might end early.
Vantage_West
07-31-2007, 08:35 PM
yea cotto is gonna have a tuff tuff time. mosley is a vetran with power and good handspeed.
i remember last year when he was dropped and stunned and was made a joke now for some reason he is now the next best thing
Terrible Terry
07-31-2007, 08:37 PM
I love Sugar Shane but he has not shown much power at 147 or 154 except for slapping around Vargas who is a punching bag.
Relentless
07-31-2007, 08:43 PM
yea cotto is gonna have a tuff tuff time. mosley is a vetran with power and good handspeed.
i remember last year when he was dropped and stunned and was made a joke now for some reason he is now the next best thing
well thats apart of boxing, you get hit, you get stunned and if the shot was hard you may get dropped.
Vantage_West
07-31-2007, 08:45 PM
I love Sugar Shane but he has not shown much power at 147 or 154 except for slapping around Vargas who is a punching bag.but at wleter he was by far the quicker than the lightwieght shane he still packed the punch just ot was a bigger division and wieght just doesnt carry it as much
BoxingGuru
07-31-2007, 08:45 PM
Mosley is about the same in power as Judah which isn't much at 147. Sorry, he's not knocking out Cotto.
Shake
07-31-2007, 08:46 PM
Shane's counters versus Cotto's bodypunches.
I'm going with Shane here.
The Italarican
07-31-2007, 08:49 PM
I could see a Shane TKO, but I don't see a brutal KO happening. Mosley has also shown a good chin and solid heart, so I don't see him getting brutally KO'd either. I think if either guy loses with the fight stopped early, they'll be on their feet still trying to give their all.
Vantage_West
07-31-2007, 08:52 PM
well thats apart of boxing, you get hit, you get stunned and if the shot was hard you may get dropped.your a boxer the two things you must own are a good defence with a good offence if your getting tagged with really hard shots frequently then something is amiss
rocked by the feather fisted corley and a slow torres then you got to tighten up the defence.
i think he does have a better than the average chin but if he can get hit by hard punches then that doesnt matter. mosley has power with every shot in his combo's he (as seen) can be penetrated with tools mosley is the fucking janitor of tools.
theunderdog
07-31-2007, 08:55 PM
i dunno about this. i can see shane beating cotto by crisp counter punching but i don't see him hurting cotto badly.
The Italarican
07-31-2007, 08:57 PM
well thats apart of boxing, you get hit, you get stunned and if the shot was hard you may get dropped.
Not that it mattered much, but Cotto really went down because Torres pushed him down. It would have been a 10-8 round anyway because of how stunned he was and how many times Torres hurt him, but the actual KD itself was more push. Would he have gone down by himself in that round? Very well possible, but Cotto showed a lot by being able to stay on his feet and fight off that kind of adversity.
Ambition_Def
07-31-2007, 08:57 PM
I could see it happening but Cotto has a ton of heart.
Shane was pretty vicious when he was a swarmer who attacked non-stop but those days have been long gone. I just don't think he'll be busy enough to stop Cotto.
Arum is smart, he knows his boxing and Shane is clearly not the same man he once was.
cotto's not gonna be able to "will" his way through mosley, since mosley has the power (more than judah, BoxingGuru) and agility to create angles and land hard combos. I see mosley winning, possibly a late knockout if he connects consistently.
compukiller
07-31-2007, 09:00 PM
cotto's not gonna be able to "will" his way through mosley, since mosley has the power (more than judah, BoxingGuru) and agility to create angles and land hard combos. I see mosley winning, possibly a late knockout if he connects consistently.
:yep
Shotgun
07-31-2007, 09:01 PM
If Mosley connects with a left hook similar to the one he hit Vargas with, Cotto will go down
I think a lot of people are going to be surprised with how convincingly Mosley dominates Cotto. Cotto's lack of defense is really going to cause problems for him against Mosley. Remember, the guys Mosley lost to are tall, physically gifted technicians with great jabs. Cotto's power is not going to cause Mosley any trouble at all, and besides his power is overrated. It took him 11 straight rounds of punishment and landing clean shots to do what Kostya Tszyu did with one punch against Judah. Mosley has fought a lot of guys who hit harder than Cotto, and Mosley will get the better of the exchanges because of his superior handspeed. Mosley also hits at least as hard as Cotto, and has a much better chin. He's going to win a wide UD or knock Cotto out
Lance_Uppercut
07-31-2007, 09:09 PM
Some of you mo'fuckers need to look up the word hyperbole... :patsch
Cotto by TKO 10th round. I think you people overate SSM event if hes a good boxer hes not swarming or brawling anymore so i don't see how he could KO Cotto. Cotto have an excellent chin and he will get inside to land some Hard shots at Mosley who will go down but will stand up until the ref stops the fight.
Leeroy
07-31-2007, 09:24 PM
Mosley TKO Cotto
Chileno606
07-31-2007, 09:30 PM
Cotto will annihilate Mosley, wtf are all of you smoking. Shane is a hasbeen.
KO Boxing
07-31-2007, 09:30 PM
Don't know if it'll happen in this fight (possible), but a knockout loss WILL happen at some time in Cotto's career.
Shotgun
07-31-2007, 09:33 PM
Cotto will annihilate Mosley, wtf are all of you smoking. Shane is a hasbeen.
The current version of Mosley is EASILY better than anyone Cotto has fought
Shotgun
07-31-2007, 09:35 PM
Cotto have an excellent chin
Surely you're kidding. His chin is decent, the only thing that kept him from getting stopped against Corley is that Corley doesn't know how to finish. And nobody's ever going to mistake Chop Chop for a big puncher. Cotto was totally out on his feet in that fight and Chop Chop let him off the hook
compukiller
07-31-2007, 09:43 PM
Again, too many people are confusing them selves with the pre-Forrest Mosley and the 2007 Mosley.
The post-Forrest Mosley only has 2 losses on his record to a bigger, stronger lefty named Winky. Mosley still banged with him and DLH at 154, without ever even being dropped or Ko'ed. Cotto would have much trouble trying to do the same.
Shotgun
07-31-2007, 09:49 PM
Again, too many people are confusing them selves with the pre-Forrest Mosley and the 2007 Mosley.
I would say too many people aren't acknowledging that the Mosley that fought the second Vargas fight and the Collazo fight is a huge step ahead of anyone Cotto has fought
Yes, that includes Judah coming off what amounted to a one year lay off, following two consecutive losses, one of which came against a journeyman-level fighter
Antwuan Maxx
07-31-2007, 10:06 PM
Again, too many people are confusing them selves with the pre-Forrest Mosley and the 2007 Mosley.
Exactly. People are talking like this is 2001. Mosley isn't in near that same form, and his power has greatly eroded at welter. If it hadn't, cats like Estrada, Cruz, and Collazo wouldn't have went the distance with him without being in any serious trouble. It's not a coincidence the only person he's KO'd in the last 6 years has been a shot Fernando Vargas.
Using Cotto getting hurt by Torres and Corley at 140 as a barometer for how this fight will play out is just as ridiculous as using the first Winky Wright fight as an indication of what will happen in this fight. Obviously, Cotto was badly hurt against Torres and Corley. But it's also obvious he wasn't at his best at 140, because he had to cut extreme amount of weights to make the limit. Shane on the other hand got momentarily rocked by Winky in the first round of their fight and was noticably effected by Wright's body punches throughout the fight. But obviously, he was fighting a bigger opponent above his natural weight. I don't put much stock in either case because both men clearly weren't in their proper weight classes.
Picking either man by brutal KO is a joke, when neither packs one punch pop.
o_money
07-31-2007, 10:09 PM
Sorry, but I think Miguel goes down in Nov. :deal
Not a Cotto Hater, but I'm just sayin.....
Is this fight close to being signed?
Don't think it'll be brutal or easy, both will be in a tough war with Mosley winning by TKO in the late rounds. Can't wait, awesome fights to come!
DoumB
07-31-2007, 10:11 PM
Go Shaneee
Antwuan Maxx
07-31-2007, 10:13 PM
I would say too many people aren't acknowledging that the Mosley that fought the second Vargas fight and the Collazo fight is a huge step ahead of anyone Cotto has fought
Yes, that includes Judah coming off what amounted to a one year lay off, following two consecutive losses, one of which came against a journeyman-level fighter
The shot Fernando Vargas who had his jaw broken by Javier Castillejo in his previous fight(and yet he gave Mosley all he could handle in their first fight)? Collazo is no better than Carlos Quintana and when he fought Mosley, he was injured in round three, after making Shane look silly in round two. As an obvious Cotto fan, I'll tell you this. I was a lot more nervous when Cotto-Judah was made than I am about Cotto-Mosley.
Surely you're kidding. His chin is decent, the only thing that kept him from getting stopped against Corley is that Corley doesn't know how to finish. And nobody's ever going to mistake Chop Chop for a big puncher. Cotto was totally out on his feet in that fight and Chop Chop let him off the hook
Cotto saw some stars on this punch but he came back to win the fight by tko.
It happens sometimes maybe he didnt see the punch coming but anyway every fighter recieves a punch like that from times to times. Anyway Cotto always start his fights slowly and finishes strong and for SSM its the opposite.
On the later rounds, Cotto's punches are gonna be affecting Mosley alot and he wont be able to compete.
psychopath
07-31-2007, 10:15 PM
Damn . . . I'm a fan of both and this is a situation where I can't decide who to root for. :patsch :huh
I don't know, I'm leaning on Shane . . . but I doubt if he can put Cotto down at this point. Cotto just peaking and improving on every fight.
Druid
07-31-2007, 10:16 PM
Before the last half dozen Cotto fights people have said "he hasn't fought anyone like _____", so many people picked Judah over Cotto and now again Mosely. I am a big Mosley fan, but Cotto is very dangerous for Mosely at this weight. Someone said it took 11 rounds for Cotto to do to Judah what it took Tszyu did with one punch. KT never did to Judah what Cotto did, Cotto beat Judah up. Speaking of Tszyu , perhaps what the younger Hatton did to Tszyu would be the better comparison to be made here.
BigReg
07-31-2007, 10:31 PM
Exactly. People are talking like this is 2001. Mosley isn't in near that same form, and his power has greatly eroded at welter. If it hadn't, cats like Estrada, Cruz, and Collazo wouldn't have went the distance with him without being in any serious trouble. It's not a coincidence the only person he's KO'd in the last 6 years has been a shot Fernando Vargas.
Using Cotto getting hurt by Torres and Corley at 140 as a barometer for how this fight will play out is just as ridiculous as using the first Winky Wright fight as an indication of what will happen in this fight. Obviously, Cotto was badly hurt against Torres and Corley. But it's also obvious he wasn't at his best at 140, because he had to cut extreme amount of weights to make the limit.
You make some good points, but I'm going to have to call you out on a few things. Number 1, while Shane hasn't been racking up KO's since 2002, he also has been fighting some skilled boxers and some guys with good chins. Forrest and Estrada are the only two guys that Shane fought during this time period who have been KO'd during their careers(both were KO'd after they fought Shane). Also, Cotto has been rocked because of poor defensive technique and a questionable chin. Stop blaming the weight issues. If him fighting at 140 were causing him to not fight at his best, and to almost get KO'd then he shouldn't have fought at that weight. It's OK for him to beat up on smaller men, but when one of them rocks him, the excuses start flowing.
Druid
07-31-2007, 10:32 PM
You make some good points, but I'm going to have to call you out on a few things. Number 1, while Shane hasn't been racking up KO's since 2002, he also has been fighting some skilled boxers and some guys with good chins. Forrest and Estrada are the only two guys that Shane fought during this time period who have been KO'd during their careers(both were KO'd after they fought Shane). Also, Cotto has been rocked because of poor defensive technique and a questionable chin. Stop blaming the weight issues. If him fighting at 140 were causing him to not fight at his best, and to almost get KO'd then he shouldn't have fought at that weight. It's OK for him to beat up on smaller men, but when one of them rocks him, the excuses start flowing.
You don't have to make excuses for an unbeaten fighter, the record speaks for itself.
BoxingGuru
07-31-2007, 10:33 PM
cotto has now clue how good shane is. nor do any of his huggers. i like the kid, but reality is reality, yet so many ignore the facts. shane is that good, and mc is not!
I think more people ignore retarded statements like Mosley is good and Cotto is not. Why don't YOU face reality. The 4 times Shane Mosley stepped it up he got beat. He also lost to DLH the second time.
BigReg
07-31-2007, 10:35 PM
You don't have to make excuses for an unbeaten fighter, the record speaks for itself.
Saying a guy is getting hurt because he's weight drained is an excuse.
JMotrain
07-31-2007, 10:38 PM
Shane wins by close decision.
BigReg
07-31-2007, 10:40 PM
I think more people ignore retarded statements like Mosley is good and Cotto is not. Why don't YOU face reality. The 4 times Shane Mosley stepped it up he got beat. He also lost to DLH the second time.
I hope you realize you disproved your own argument. Shane beat DLH twice. The first time he jumped from 135 to 147 to do it. The second time he jumped to 154 to do it(all three judges as well as every ring side observer had Shane winning that fight). If this isn't steeping up, I don't know what is. Also the other 4 times he stepped up and lost were against two guys. Two guy who were much bigger than Shane and were highly skilled.
Druid
07-31-2007, 10:41 PM
Saying a guy is getting hurt because he's weight drained is an excuse.
An excuse for beating everyone he ever fought?
However, You just have to look at his later 140 fights to see that weight drain was affecting him, stamina more than anything. People always bring up Corley stunning him and he did, with a perfect shot, but Judah wasn't as effective, I have to think the same people would have to admit that Judah has more power.
Antwuan Maxx
07-31-2007, 10:43 PM
You make some good points, but I'm going to have to call you out on a few things. Number 1, while Shane hasn't been racking up KO's since 2002, he also has been fighting some skilled boxers and some guys with good chins. Forrest and Estrada are the only two guys that Shane fought during this time period who have been KO'd during their careers(both were KO'd after they fought Shane). Also, Cotto has been rocked because of poor defensive technique and a questionable chin. Stop blaming the weight issues. If him fighting at 140 were causing him to not fight at his best, and to almost get KO'd then he shouldn't have fought at that weight. It's OK for him to beat up on smaller men, but when one of them rocks him, the excuses start flowing.
So are you implying that Shane softened up Forrest for Mayorga and Estrada for Cintron? :huh And Collazo had been stopped years before in 3 rounds.
Saying a guy is getting hurt because he's weight drained is an excuse.
Like you mentioned, Cotto shouldn't have been fighting at 140 in the first place. But either way, he did. And it's obvious, excuse or not, that cutting weight effected his durability. If that wasn't the case, and he truly couldn't take a punch from a fighter like Corley, then that uppercut Judah landed on him in the first would have laid him out cold.
Chicago Nights
07-31-2007, 10:44 PM
Mosley by brutal KO.
I like it.
:good
BigReg
07-31-2007, 10:50 PM
An excuse for beating everyone he ever fought?
However, You just have to look at his later 140 fights to see that weight drain was affecting him, stamina more than anything. People always bring up Corley stunning him and he did, with a perfect shot, but Judah wasn't as effective, I have to think the same people would have to admit that Judah has more power.
You're crazy if you don't think Judah ever hurt him. Also, let's not try to pretend his defensive liabilities and questionable chin had nothing to with him getting hurt in that ring. James Toney was notourious for having weight issues. He pretty much had to go on a water and lettuce diet before fights. However, he never got tired, and he was never hurt while he was at the lower weights. This is an extreme example, but it shows if you have sound defensive abilities you won't be on the verge of getting KO'd against guys like Torres, weight issues or not.
BigReg
07-31-2007, 10:57 PM
So are you implying that Shane softened up Forrest for Mayorga and Estrada for Cintron? :huh And Collazo had been stopped years before in 3 rounds.
Like you mentioned, Cotto shouldn't have been fighting at 140 in the first place. But either way, he did. And it's obvious, excuse or not, that cutting weight effected his durability. If that wasn't the case, and he truly couldn't take a punch from a fighter like Corley, then that uppercut Judah landed on him in the first would have laid him out cold.
In no way was I implying the Shane softened Forrest or Estrada. My point is that they have shown through their careers that they are far from easy to KO, and when Shane fought them, nobody had knocked them out. Regardless of Collazo's KO loss early in his career, it's safe to say that his style will make it hard for any WW to KO him.
I don't think Cotto has a weak chin. I think he gets hit with too many punches that he should avoid, and that his chin is questionable. What helps him is that when he does get hurt, he doesn't panic. He retreats, and collects himself(and sometimes goes low). That's why he was able to wheather the storm against Judah(that and Judah get's way too excited when he gets a guy in trouble)
Druid
07-31-2007, 11:00 PM
You're crazy if you don't think Judah ever hurt him. Also, let's not try to pretend his defensive liabilities and questionable chin had nothing to with him getting hurt in that ring. James Toney was notourious for having weight issues. He pretty much had to go on a water and lettuce diet before fights. However, he never got tired, and he was never hurt while he was at the lower weights. This is an extreme example, but it shows if you have sound defensive abilities you won't be on the verge of getting KO'd against guys like Torres, weight issues or not.
I don't think Judah ever truly hurt Cotto, he stunned him, stopped him in his tracks, but Cotto didn't seem in any danger at any point during that fight. So, Judah (a good fighter with decent power) got in four or five shots worth mentioning and that was it over 11 rounds! He otherwise got totally beaten up. I know Cotto has a vulnerable defense, that has to do with his relentless offense.
No question that at 147 he is taking harder shots with greater ease and is giving hell back.
BigReg
07-31-2007, 11:16 PM
I don't think Judah ever truly hurt Cotto, he stunned him, stopped him in his tracks, but Cotto didn't seem in any danger at any point during that fight. So, Judah (a good fighter with decent power) got in four or five shots worth mentioning and that was it over 11 rounds! He otherwise got totally beaten up. I know Cotto has a vulnerable defense, that has to do with his relentless offense.
No question that at 147 he is taking harder shots with greater ease and is giving hell back.
This is yet to be seen. Quintana and Urkal's punches can't break wind. Judah, is a decent puncher who should still be at JWW. Mosely will be a good test for Cotto. He's bigger, and stronger than Judah, and has a better chin and stamina. Personally, I'm not sure if Cotto can beat the bigger Welters with some power. Beating Mosely would quell alot of those doubts.
Druid
07-31-2007, 11:21 PM
This is yet to be seen. Quintana and Urkal's punches can't break wind. Judah, is a decent puncher who should still be at JWW. Mosely will be a good test for Cotto. He's bigger, and stronger than Judah, and has a better chin and stamina. Personally, I'm not sure if Cotto can beat the bigger Welters with some power. Beating Mosely would quell alot of those doubts.
I am a big fan of both and will be sorry for which ever loses as they are great for the sport. However, Mosley might retire on a win or within a couple of fights likely anyway. So, I not only think Cotto will win, I hope he does as he can be a figure in the sport for years to come.
compukiller
07-31-2007, 11:57 PM
Mosley didn't fight Wright before Forrest. :huh
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
I meant to say "post" not "pre".
compukiller
08-01-2007, 12:02 AM
Exactly. People are talking like this is 2001. Mosley isn't in near that same form, and his power has greatly eroded at welter. If it hadn't, cats like Estrada, Cruz, and Collazo wouldn't have went the distance with him without being in any serious trouble. It's not a coincidence the only person he's KO'd in the last 6 years has been a shot Fernando Vargas.
Using Cotto getting hurt by Torres and Corley at 140 as a barometer for how this fight will play out is just as ridiculous as using the first Winky Wright fight as an indication of what will happen in this fight. Obviously, Cotto was badly hurt against Torres and Corley. But it's also obvious he wasn't at his best at 140, because he had to cut extreme amount of weights to make the limit. Shane on the other hand got momentarily rocked by Winky in the first round of their fight and was noticably effected by Wright's body punches throughout the fight. But obviously, he was fighting a bigger opponent above his natural weight. I don't put much stock in either case because both men clearly weren't in their proper weight classes.
Picking either man by brutal KO is a joke, when neither packs one punch pop.
Mosley can bang quite a bit at any weight, and Cotto can bang too. It's not that they're hard punchers, they're good punchers, meaning they can throw some nasty combos, even if they don't KO you with one punch.
I believe Cotto's lack of defense leads to a valiant, but brutal, KO.
andyZOR
08-01-2007, 12:27 AM
IMosley has good handspeed. Hes fast. = 0
MagnificentMatt
08-01-2007, 12:30 AM
yea cotto is gonna have a tuff tuff time. mosley is a vetran with power and good handspeed.
i remember last year when he was dropped and stunned and was made a joke now for some reason he is now the next best thing
That was right after a butt anyways, Mosley has never been down legit.
YOUNG*LORD
08-01-2007, 12:45 AM
I could see it happening but Cotto has a ton of heart.
Shane was pretty vicious when he was a swarmer who attacked non-stop but those days have been long gone. I just don't think he'll be busy enough to stop Cotto.
Arum is smart, he knows his boxing and Shane is clearly not the same man he once was.You guys are ridiculous...Mosley is not that strong...you need to stop living in the past. Cotto will knock Mosley into retirement..:deal
YOUNG*LORD
08-01-2007, 12:48 AM
I was thinking the same. How does weighing 140 impact Cotto's chin?Dehydration...Try starving yourself and stop drinking water to keep the weight down...you guys really need to do some research on the issue.:deal
brooklyn1550
08-01-2007, 01:04 AM
I am very uneasy with this pick, but I'm going with the upset and picking Cotto by UD. I think his pressure and bodypunching will slow the older Mosley down and win him a close decision with some rough spots along the way. A win would propel Cotto into superstardom and on the cusp of greatness, but Mosley might have something to say about it.
the_what
08-01-2007, 03:05 AM
Cotto is not going to KO Mosley. Thats because Papa Jack will throw in the towel to save his son from an ass whooping. Cotto is getting in that ass like a wedgie. Once Mosley feels those left hooks to the body, he will remember his age and start thinking WTF did I get myselt into. Cotto by stoppage in 10 rounds.
SugarShane_24
08-01-2007, 06:25 AM
Well, Cotto is a very strong fighter. Weight should not be an issue here as he is already at 147. He has the power, not one-punch KO but accumulative. Plus, he has youth on his side.
On the other hand, Shane has the big fight experience. He fought DLH twice, it doesn't get bigger than that. He is still very quick with both hands and feet. He also has enough punching power to keep guys honest.
My analisys:
Cotto is strong, but not as strong as he seems to be. A win over Judah doesn't really answer a lot of questions. Judah has what it takes but he never really pushes himself to the limit. Not to mention Judah also just started at 140. Not to take away from Cotto's performance, but it's evident that hand speed, mobility and a quick start troubled him until Judah seemed to lost interest. It may be Cotto's power, Judah's stamina or whatever that discouraged him. Nevertheless, Shane never gets discouraged and fights on even on the brink of defeat. You never saw that against Forrest especially on the Wright rematch in which he did everything he can do against a bigger. stronger man. Can you imagine Shane holding back after he had a man hurt? If Cotto gets hit cleanly, watch out. Cotto has the ability to beat Shane. But I still believe Sugar isn't as far on the slope as he looks.
Mosley by an upset late-round tko.
warrior85
08-01-2007, 06:44 AM
will be a great fight,theyre both great fighters who im fans of,but im leanin towards shane,i think this will be better than cotto/judah which was great
Antwuan Maxx
08-01-2007, 06:56 AM
I don't think Cotto has a weak chin. I think he gets hit with too many punches that he should avoid, and that his chin is questionable. What helps him is that when he does get hurt, he doesn't panic. He retreats, and collects himself(and sometimes goes low). That's why he was able to wheather the storm against Judah(that and Judah get's way too excited when he gets a guy in trouble)
So you're telling me, you truly believe Judah had Cotto hurt badly enough for him to purposely foul him?
This is yet to be seen. Quintana and Urkal's punches can't break wind.
True enough, Urkal wasn't a big puncher, even though he was rocking Tszyu. But Quintana had more pop than you give him credit for. He was 23-0 (18 KO's) and every fight I seen him in pre-Cotto, his power was a factor.
Judah, is a decent puncher who should still be at JWW. Mosely will be a good test for Cotto. He's bigger, and stronger than Judah, and has a better chin and stamina. Personally, I'm not sure if Cotto can beat the bigger Welters with some power. Beating Mosely would quell alot of those doubts.
If Judah is only a decent puncher, then Mosley is a below average puncher at welter.
Relentless
08-01-2007, 07:02 AM
i'm going to stay out of this......
maciek4
08-01-2007, 08:36 AM
I was a lot more nervous when Cotto-Judah was made than I am about Cotto-Mosley.
When Cotton Judah was made I was 90% sure Cotto would win and by KO. With Shane I am 50/50 and 90% sure it will go the distance. Tough fight to predict. Judah is fragile physically and mentally, Shane is very solid.
maciek4
08-01-2007, 08:43 AM
I think Cotto would have an easier time with Mayweather than with Mosley.
bill poster
08-01-2007, 12:47 PM
Shane KOs Cotto inside 3
Don't underestimate Mosely's body punching. Along with his double right hand and leaping lefthook Shane is a dedicated body puncher. I believe this may be the first time that Cotto will be banged to the body as much as he gives out. Mosely by TKO9. Cotto will show tremendous heart in a war.
emanuel_augustus
08-01-2007, 03:38 PM
Mosley is aging, Cotto is in his prime. Cotto will walk him down, rip him with body shots to stop what movement Shane will bring, and probably stop him by the 8th or 9th.
Guys, this isn't the Lightweight or even Welterweight version of Shane Mosley anymore.
Shane KOs Cotto inside 3
the most unlikely scenario for either is an early stoppage...both have never been stopped and they will respect each other early...if there is a KO i'd bet it would be Cotto late, but i see this going the distance...i've been uneasy about a pick in this one, but i think Cotto has found his true prime and Mosley is at the end of his...Cotto UD12 Mosley...
Darthmage
08-01-2007, 03:45 PM
Avatar bet anyone? I am taking Cotto UD on this one. Father time will catch up with Shane in this bout.
I'm picking Miguel, I think his pressure will trouble Shane.
Zakman
08-01-2007, 04:42 PM
Sorry, but I think Miguel goes down in Nov. :deal
Not a Cotto Hater, but I'm just sayin.....
This could be the fight where Cotto has finally bitten off more than he can chew, and the shaky beard he show against Corley and Torres lets him down bigtime.
On the other hand, if Mosley finally begins to show his age, this could also be a one-sided beatdown for Cotto.
This is a true "pick 'em" fight. At this point, I can't say for certain who will emerge victorious.
TroubleLurks
08-01-2007, 04:43 PM
Mosley wins most, if not all, of the early rounds and survives a late Cotto charge to win a UD. 116-112 115-113 115-113 Book it.:deal
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Darthmage
08-01-2007, 05:44 PM
Sorry, but I think Miguel goes down in Nov. :deal
Not a Cotto Hater, but I'm just sayin.....
Avatar bet?
compukiller
08-01-2007, 06:08 PM
Avatar bet?
You got it:good
igotJUIC3
08-01-2007, 06:12 PM
You got it:good
LMAO...im lovin the avatar....i got that mush in the face ranked up there as one of the all time greatest disrespects on media. LOL
On a real note...Mosley wins because he badly wants PBF which gives him a reason to really want to to win and he has speed,power, movement, and a good boxer....cotto will make it a great fight though.
Darthmage
08-01-2007, 07:08 PM
You got it:good
True that, no gay shit.
compukiller
08-01-2007, 07:27 PM
LMAO...im lovin the avatar....i got that mush in the face ranked up there as one of the all time greatest disrespects on media. LOL
On a real note...Mosley wins because he badly wants PBF which gives him a reason to really want to to win and he has speed,power, movement, and a good boxer....cotto will make it a great fight though.
Yeah, I cracked up when BHOP did that. :lol:
Truthfully, I just think Mosley has too many tools for Cotto, and I believe he is simply the better fighter. Should be a barnbruner, no matter how long it lasts. :D
compukiller
08-01-2007, 07:28 PM
True that, no gay shit.
Really?? I had a Boy George avatar all picked out for you:lol:
Mrboogie23
08-01-2007, 07:35 PM
I dont know who I want to win this fight. I like both guys.
Darthmage
08-01-2007, 11:16 PM
Really?? I had a Boy George avatar all picked out for you:lol:
Only if I get to pick a spinningmeat.gif one for you.
PR Boxing Lore
08-18-2007, 09:21 PM
Cotto will stop Mosley for the first time, he has never seen anyone like him and never will because he will retire aft:vonnecunt :vonnecunt er the beating!
41fever
08-18-2007, 10:11 PM
I think Shane can do it, especially @140. @147 Cotto is a different fighter. He has better stamina and is more relentless. If Shane can jumpstart early and surprise Cotto and drop him several times to put him in lala land to force a TKO, then he could. But if Cotto gets up continues the onslaught then SSM's body will be aching bad by the championship rds and his gas tank would be low and to deal with a pressuring Cotto is no easy feat. I'll go with Cotto here. I kinda wish Shane wins though bcuz he's such a classy fighter and ducks no one unlike DLH and PBF
SOUTHERMOST
08-18-2007, 11:09 PM
Very hard to pick a winner my head say Mosley my feeling say Cotto is very difficult to see the heart of both men one is coming up the other on his way down a young hungry lion vs old experienced warrior I got few more weeks to make a decision promise to look in my crytal ball.
compukiller
11-09-2007, 10:22 PM
It is almost upon us:good
Shotgun
11-09-2007, 10:28 PM
Cotto is the single most overrated boxer in the world right now. Can't wait until Sugar Shane exposes him. If Shane's even 80% of the boxer he was in 2000 he will stop Cotto before 10
compukiller
11-09-2007, 10:32 PM
Yep, hey compukiller, since you are going with Mosley in the fight and I'm picking Cotto, do you want to do an avatar bet?
Already got one with someone else.:good
But, if you want to do a one week bet or something, we can bet and if I lost, I could serve the sentence when my other one was done (also one week).
As you can see from my current avatar, I always honor my bets. :deal :-(
compukiller
11-09-2007, 10:33 PM
Cotto is the single most overrated boxer in the world right now. Can't wait until Sugar Shane exposes him. If Shane's even 80% of the boxer he was in 2000 he will stop Cotto before 10
He is and he will:yep :good
And if Shane can hurt him early, it could end quickly. :happy :happy
compukiller
11-09-2007, 10:38 PM
We could do a one week bet, thats fine with me.
Cool. If Cotto wins, I will serve your sentence once I finish with the other. When Mosley Wins, I will send you your new avatar. You will have 48 hrs to get your ESB affairs in order. :good
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