Gatti vs. Augustus

[thunder06]

What if Gatti had fought Emanuel Augustus in '02 instead of Terronn Millett at 140 lbs? who would have won?

[Vantage_West]

manny. to awkward and does everything gatti doesnt like speed defence and workrate

[emanuel_augustus]

If Augustus couldn't beat Ward, he wasn't going to beat Gatti. Gatti by decision.

[thunder06]

If Augustus couldn't beat Ward, he wasn't going to beat Gatti. Gatti by decision.

but gatti doesnt fight like ward does. ward kept pressure on augustus and wore him down, but many thought that it was a draw or even that emanuel won. i dont think gatti is quite as durable as ward but i do think that he would eventually lure manny into a slugfest which augustus does anyway and would win a close UD.

[Quik]

Gatto by SD in a close fight.

[thunder06]

who had more power, gatti or ward?

[thunder06]

who had the better chin, gatti or ward?

[thunder06]

who had more heart, gatti or ward?

[thunder06]

That question shouldn't be asked :patsch

Because it can't be answered

well why not?

[nezy37]

Augustus is a match-up nightmare for Gatti

[thunder06]

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[tays001]

gatii wins this one

[thunder06]

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[Thread Stealer]

who had more power, gatti or ward?

Ward to the body (although Gatti was a good bodypuncher), Gatti upstairs.

Anyway, Gatti probably beats Augustus, although I wouldn't use the Ward-Augustus fight as a real measure since Gatti and Ward fight differently. Ward usually likes to get up close and apply pressure. Gatti often likes to try to box and use lateral movement and throw combos, then he gets tagged and forgets about boxing, and starts trading. But Gatti likes more distance when he brawls to unlaunch his shots.

[thunder06]

Ward to the body (although Gatti was a good bodypuncher), Gatti upstairs.

Anyway, Gatti probably beats Augustus, although I wouldn't use the Ward-Augustus fight as a real measure since Gatti and Ward fight differently. Ward usually likes to get up close and apply pressure. Gatti often likes to try to box and use lateral movement and throw combos, then he gets tagged and forgets about boxing, and starts trading. But Gatti likes more distance when he brawls to unlaunch his shots.


who do you think had the better chin?

[Thread Stealer]

who do you think had the better chin?

Micky.

Gatti had a good chin, but he wasn't hard to hurt. It was kind of weird, it was like Gatti needed to get initially hurt or dropped to really wake up. Then after the initial shot(s) that hurt or drop him, he suddenly is able to take massive amounts of punishment.

Ward seemed harder to hurt. He got hurt by Green, and by a shot to the eardrum by Gatti, but I can't think of too many other fights. Although I haven't seen that many of his fights before he took that time off.

[thunder06]

Micky.

Gatti had a good chin, but he wasn't hard to hurt. It was kind of weird, it was like Gatti needed to get initially hurt or dropped to really wake up. Then after the initial shot(s) that hurt or drop him, he suddenly is able to take massive amounts of punishment.

Ward seemed harder to hurt. He got hurt by Green, and by a shot to the eardrum by Gatti, but I can't think of too many other fights. Although I haven't seen that many of his fights before he took that time off.

who had more heart?

[thunder06]

gatti acts when he boxes....he's so dramatic...have you ever seen when he gets beaten with like 4 blows in a row he doesn't move his head he just makes an emotional face.... or when he gets knocked in the head so many times and doesn't really drop but slowly falls to the ground, getting hit with more blows on the way down.

people love that shit! human highlight reel for sure


well i dont think hes "acting". when you're getting hit in the face, you dont really think "oh, now's a good time to work on my acting skills". it's just how he is, and that's why people call him the human highlight film.

[Vantage_West]

If Augustus couldn't beat Ward, he wasn't going to beat Gatti. Gatti by decision.but ward didnt win convincingly augustus was started to get into the rhythm by no means a one sided defeat.

[Vantage_West]

who had more power, gatti or ward?pound for pound gatti by a fair but solid margin ward though has a body left hook that has made the toughest men fall to the knees and cried.

even though wards technique is awful his punching technique was very good.

[K0NPHL1C7]

Bum Fight's 2002. The real question is, who really gives a fuck?

[Vantage_West]

Augustus has problems with boxers who can keep range and Gatti when he's on his A game is a decent boxer. Plus he hits much harder than Emmanuel and at the end of the day that will catch the attention of the judges more.

Gatti by UD.but augustus throws alot of shots and augustus when he settles down and doesnt clown is by far the better boxer than gatti defence is better and is hard to find...gatti can box but he is easy to hit as he doesnt move his head this would be target practice for auugustus and as manny cant finish him with a power shot, he wont get sucked in to trade the hards shot he will wear gatti down while gatti does all the power punching until...gatti is exhuasted by the body shots and punches to the face were manny will be all over him for the rest of the fight.

[Vantage_West]

Bum Fight's 2002. The real question is, who really gives a fuck?what these guys are the best journeyman/club fighters

[K0NPHL1C7]

what these guys are the best journeyman/club fighters

I don't even consider Gatti a fighter, and EA has the discipline of a 15-year-old girl with ADHD at the Mall of America.

Bum Fights.

[emanuel_augustus]

who had more power, gatti or ward?

Gatti was a much more powerful puncher. Ward could crack the left hook to the body but was much more an attrition fighter.

Gatti would have most likely outboxed Augustus and outworked him. Remember in '02, Augustus was sandwiched between a horrible beating at 135 at the hands of Dorin and a total washout loss to Omar Weis. In between he drew with old Leavander Johnson in bad desert heat where his punch output dropped, and one good win over Vilches.

Gatti was simply the better fighter in '02.

[emanuel_augustus]

but ward didnt win convincingly augustus was started to get into the rhythm by no means a one sided defeat.

It was a clear loss. If this, what that-- facts are Augustus was dropped by a body shot in the 9th and lost the fight, i had it 96-93. Close, yes, but a loss nonetheless.

[emanuel_augustus]

I don't even consider Gatti a fighter Bum Fights.,

Gatti held a jr. lightweight and jr. welterweight world title.

Please enlighten us as to how being a world champion makes one a "bum?"