Bunce reveals all!!!

[darwoody]

Haye's opponent will be revealed on Bunce's Boxing Hour on now!!!
Who do you reckon???

[saturday_kid]

Monte Barrett

thats what I reckon, not who has just been revealed as I'm at work just to clear that up.

[darwoody]

It will be confirmed in half anhour or so.
I reckon Kevin Johnson.
Not sure Barrett is ranked in the top ten.

[GazOC]

Enzo rematch.

[LB3000]

Barrett is ranked 6th in the WBO rankings.

[darwoody]

Well then it could be Barrett.
Anybody is better than JD Chapman. He will get slaughtered if that is the fight.

[LiamE]

I have to say I had dread in my heart clicking on this thread. Thankfully we have bee spared Bunce revealing himself.

[zipper]

its gonna be jd chapman bag of shit!

[darwoody]

I have to say I had dread in my heart clicking on this thread. Thankfully we have bee spared Bunce revealing himself.
Thankfully it isn't that.:happy
Apparently Maskaev is still in the frame.

[Superheavyweight]

Barrett hmm…

[darwoody]

It is Monte Barrett:happy :happy

[antcull]

Its Monte!!!! We have an opponent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zipper]

hayes next opponent will be monty barrett

[JIM KELLY]

predictions???
haye knock out?

[antcull]

Haye KO6 with Haye getting wobbled a couple times

[GazOC]

Could be interesting for a few rounds. Not a bad opponent.

[zipper]

haye gets off the canvas to win in 4th

[mithffg]

You cant knock haye for this fight.decent heavy coming of a decnt win.

[JIM KELLY]

yeah Monte is more fresher than the likes of Rahman.

[Decebal]

Did they have Carl Froch on yet? If so, what did he say?:?

[mike464]

I thought Haye was going to fight a top ten heavyweight. Barrett isn't in the top 15, let alone top 10 of any of the big three and he most definitely is not one of the 10 top heavyweights in the world. Very disappointing.

[darwoody]

Ranked 6th with WBO

[Jimbo]

WBO#6
WBC#24

WBA & IBF only have top 15 and he's not in either of those.

Boxrec have him at 16.

Not a top ten fighter (I'd say 15-25) but don't think there were many better fighters available.

[mike464]

Ranked 6th with WBOgreat

[Decebal]

Did they have Carl Froch on yet? If so, what did he say?:?
Anyone seen the show?:?

[darwoody]

great
WBO is one of the belts that Klitschko holds.
So yes, it is great.

[Fat Joe]

Barret will chop Haye down just like he did to that giant Fields

[Beeston Brawler]

If a guy is ranked six by the WBO, it means either.......

He is promoted by Frank ******
He is coming off a heavy loss
He died a fortnight ago
He is moving up from another weight class

[Decebal]

Anyone seen the show?:?

Fine, suit yourselves!:bart

[Maza1987]

Anyone seen the show?:?

He was talking about how hes done it the old fashioned way (getting a shot at the title, british, commonwealth, ect ect). Then bunce stated that pascal is actually the hardest opponent out of lacy and taylor, with which froch agreed. He stated that pascal is a slick fighter. he also stated how hes happy its on terrestrial tv.

peace

[Decebal]

He was talking about how hes done it the old fashioned way (getting a shot at the title, british, commonwealth, ect ect). Then bunce stated that pascal is actually the hardest opponent out of lacy and taylor, with which froch agreed. He stated that pascal is a slick fighter. he also stated how hes happy its on terrestrial tv.

peace

Thank you, brother!:thumbsup

Bunce said Pascal was better than both Lacy and Taylor? What a suck-up, this Bunce!:roll:

[9Ball]

You cant knock haye for this fight.decent heavy coming of a decnt win.


:good :good

Haye to win by KO inside 8 Rounds.

[9Ball]

Barret will chop Haye down just like he did to that giant Fields

Noob :yep

[9Ball]

Thank you, brother!:thumbsup

Bunce said Pascal was better than both Lacy and Taylor? What a suck-up, this Bunce!:roll:

Lacy possibly but not Taylor. Anyway Pascal is gonna ktfo Frock :happy

[Decebal]

Lacy possibly but not Taylor. Anyway Pascal is gonna ktfo Frock :happy

I very much doubt that...

[9Ball]

I very much doubt that...

Well f*ck you then :yep *jokes

[9Ball]

Ok maybe Froch wont get ktfo'd but I think he is overrated and I dont like his trash talk so I hope he gets ktfo'd.

:hi:

[antcull]

Thank you, brother!:thumbsup

Bunce said Pascal was better than both Lacy and Taylor? What a suck-up, this Bunce!:roll:

Froch also said Pascal reminded him of Roy Jones Jr :lol:

[bizzer07]

anyone heard of Joe Mesi??

[Decebal]

Ok maybe Froch wont get ktfo'd but I think he is overrated and I dont like his trash talk so I hope he gets ktfo'd.

:hi:

...that's better...:D

[Decebal]

Froch also said Pascal reminded him of Roy Jones Jr :lol:

I'm not surprised...:lol:

(I am surprised he didn't say: "Look at me, fighting Jones' double, but the prime and unbeaten version...unlike that ducker of mine, Calzaghe, who is fighting the shot-to-bits version of Jones, instead of fighting me, the best SMW in the world, etc. etc.!");)

[9Ball]

I'm not surprised...:lol:

(I am surprised he didn't say: "Look at me, fighting Jones' double, but the prime and unbeaten version...unlike that ducker of mine, Calzaghe, who is fighting the shot-to-bits version of Jones, instead of fighting me, the best SMW in the world, etc. etc.!");)

I am sure that he has said that before. I have no proof but lets face it he comes out with crap like that all the time :lol:

[Bunce]

Taylor and his people said "No Way" to Froch. When I make a comment I tend to look at a lot of factors - talent and willingness to fight are just two. Froch can live with all of the super-middles I mentioned on the show. Froch is a big, big man. I've been given some stick elsewhere over some Froch comments and I have to say that it is long overdue - the love in had to end!!!
Monte and David is good. I like that. Thanks for the texts and emails.

Adios.

[GazOC]

I think Taylors people couldn't get USA TV interested in a Froch fight, they wanted a "name" and insisted on Lacy. Taylor is getting paid more and getting more exposure in the USA for a non-title fight with Lacy then he would for a title fight with Froch.

Not really a "no way" to Froch, just a sensible decision, Froch will still be there after Taylor beats Lacy.

[Ramón]

Good fight for Haye.

[Decebal]

Taylor and his people said "No Way" to Froch. When I make a comment I tend to look at a lot of factors - talent and willingness to fight are just two. Froch can live with all of the super-middles I mentioned on the show. Froch is a big, big man. I've been given some stick elsewhere over some Froch comments and I have to say that it is long overdue - the love in had to end!!!
Monte and David is good. I like that. Thanks for the texts and emails.

Adios.

Taylor and his people said "No Way" to Froch. When I make a comment I tend to look at a lot of factors - talent and willingness to fight are just two. Froch can live with all of the super-middles I mentioned on the show. Froch is a big, big man. I've been given some stick elsewhere over some Froch comments and I have to say that it is long overdue - the love in had to end!!!
Monte and David is good. I like that. Thanks for the texts and emails.

Adios.

Thank you for your show and for replying.

Mr. Bunce, you are aware that Froch had the option of fighting Bute in an IBF eliminator, but he declined, deciding to fight the man Bute beat, Tatevosyan, instead, aren't you?

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Froch claims everyone is ducking him and that he could KO Bute and Berrio on the same night and beat Kessler and Calzaghe, etc., so he needs no encouragement from enthusiastic commentators like your good self - he already hypes himself to the heavens!

He might be competitive with Bute and Kessler, he might not; we don't know - whom has he faced for us to determine how good he is, exactly?

Just because he hits hard and has an iron chin, ambition and will to win doesn't mean he is the best SMW in the world, does it? Froch is a big man, but he is not bigger than Bute or Kessler, who punch hard, have very good chins, and can also box pretty good too!

If you'll allow me, please be careful - don't overhype Froch; it's dangerous - look what happened with Khan - commentators and critics led the casual fans astray towards disillusionment. Let him prove himself as a world class fighter first, before calling him the best in the world.

[alba]

If you'll allow me, please be careful - don't overhype Froch; it's dangerous - look what happened with Khan - commentators and critics led the casual fans astray towards disillusionment. Let him prove himself as a world class fighter first, before calling him the best in the world.

but in fairness,froch has achieved belts through hard work ,where khan achieved fuck all and got hyped up because itv were need ing something to push there coverage/give it another dimension .so its ot fair to compare both of them

[Decebal]

but in fairness,froch has achieved belts through hard work ,where khan achieved fuck all and got hyped up because itv were need ing something to push there coverage/give it another dimension .so its ot fair to compare both of them
Khan worked his arse off for his belt too! I wasn't comparing Froch to Khan. I was comparing the way commentators are tempted to start hyping fighters as the best as soon as they look half-decent. Froch might prove to be the best SMW since Calzaghe. On the other hand, he might prove to be no better than an Andrade, or even a Pascal. We just don't know. He's exciting and it's great that we have him, but it's not wise to call him the best before he's fought anyone in the top 20. It's not fair on the casual fans who take everything commentators say literally.:good

[rooq]

it takes more than one commentator to hype a fighter. khan had the full SN manifesto machine behind him as well as the itv commentary team.

i don't mind if froch gets hyped at this stage of his career - he is after all fighting for a world title.

[elle]

If you'll allow me, please be careful - don't overhype Froch; it's dangerous - look what happened with Khan - commentators and critics led the casual fans astray towards disillusionment. Let him prove himself as a world class fighter first, before calling him the best in the world.


To be fair I think fans are disillusioned with Khan for a variety of reasons and its not just down to the commentators.

At least with Froch we are getting to see a World Title fight on free to air TV and we don't have to shell out £15 for PPV....

[Decebal]

To be fair I think fans are disillusioned with Khan for a variety of reasons and its not just down to the commentators.

At least with Froch we are getting to see a World Title fight on free to air TV and we don't have to shell out £15 for PPV....

True...

...and as you know, elle, I am very excited about this fight! Hope to see two fighters giving world-class performances. :good

I have watched the interview on youtube and Bunce seems to be pushing Froch into saying all kinds of crazy stuff, like, for example, that Pascal is way better than Taylor and Lacy! When Bunce says he would fancy Pascal to beat Kessler, though, Froch keeps his mouth shut, for once!:p

[Jack]

Is Froch/Pascal gonna be on ITV?

[GazOC]

Yup!!


Dece, I noticed that Froch "took the 5th" when Buncie mentioned Pascal being better than Kessler!!!!

[Decebal]

Is Froch/Pascal gonna be on ITV?

Yes! Live on ITV1! (6th of December!):happy

[Decebal]

Yup!!


Dece, I noticed that Froch "took the 5th" when Buncie mentioned Pascal being better than Kessler!!!!

He struck me as quite grounded in that interview, given his antecedents; I was a bit surprised, especially since Bunce was baiting him constantly.:think

[Bunce]

Lou DiBella (May on Buncey's Hour): "There is no way that Taylor will fight Froch. Why? Lacy is an easier option."
Bish, bosh and bang.
As for Bute. Why would Froch surrender dates and TV to fight for the IBF? Mick Hennessy has been working with the WBC for a long time. Witter and Eastman and Froch. It's not easy getting a fighter into a real world title fight without giving the fighter away. Trust me. It is why promoters often just work closely with one sanctioning body.

Adios.

[Decebal]

Lou DiBella (May on Buncey's Hour): "There is no way that Taylor will fight Froch. Why? Lacy is an easier option." Bish, bosh and bang.

Thank you for your reply, Mr. Bunce.

How does that suggest Froch was better than Taylor? Even if Froch was dodged by Taylor, who preferred an easier fight against Lacy, does that suggest Pascal was better than Taylor and Lacy, because he agreed to fight Froch? And how does that all suggest Froch was the best fighter in the world at SMW, again?

As for Bute. Why would Froch surrender dates and TV to fight for the IBF? Mick Hennessy has been working with the WBC for a long time. Witter and Eastman and Froch. It's not easy getting a fighter into a real world title fight without giving the fighter away. Trust me. It is why promoters often just work closely with one sanctioning body.

Adios.

Why would Froch surrender dates and TV to fight for the IBF? Well, why did Bute surrender dates and TV to fight for the IBF? Because he was given the opportunity by the IBF, and he dropped everything else in the works and grabbed the chance to prove himself at world level against any contender out there willing to fight him: Froch, Inkin, etc.

Both Froch and Inkin declined, preferring to fight Bute's leftovers (in the case of Froch) or Argentinan cabbies (in the case of Inkin) instead. Does that not suggest to you that Froch could have proven himself at a world-class level for over a year and he could have been world champion for almost a year now, but chose not to? The IBF offered him a clear road to the title within two fights, all within a couple of months! Or does the IBF not count as a world-title? If it was so important to him not to rub TV and the WBC the wrong way, instead of proving himself as a world class fighter, why is he complaining none of the proven top operators will go out of their way to fight him? And what gives him the right to say he is the best in the world and would beat Calzaghe and Kessler, and KO Bute and Berrio on the same night, if he is unwilling to fight such fighters when he has the chance?

Froch chose to dodge the challenge whilst moaning about being dodged by legends like Calzaghe or proven world-class fighters like Kessler, instead, whilst remaining nothing more than an overhyped PROSPECT himself. So, in this context, why is Froch "the most ducked fighter in Europe" again? Thank you.

[Bunce]

19,058 posts. That is tough.
This is too long.
I have an opinion - you also have one.
Trust me when I tell you that my argument follows strict boxing rules. Don King's rules: In boxing you get what you negotiate and not what you deserve.
Froch gets primo TV and top dollar. Bute - a big attraction in Romania, which is like bragging about a good beach in Blackpool - gets a Mexican. The old Mex-Rom rivalry! Wow, that's one for the pantheon. Boxing is a bums on seats business. I think I understand that.

Adios.

[Decebal]

19,058 posts. That is tough.
This is too long.
I have an opinion - you also have one.
Trust me when I tell you that my argument follows strict boxing rules. Don King's rules: In boxing you get what you negotiate and not what you deserve.
Froch gets primo TV and top dollar. Bute - a big attraction in Romania, which is like bragging about a good beach in Blackpool - gets a Mexican. The old Mex-Rom rivalry! Wow, that's one for the pantheon. Boxing is a bums on seats business. I think I understand that.

Adios.
I cannot compete with that wit of yours, Mr. Bunce, but, for you, I'll make my points shorter.

Bute, who answered the call of opportunity, is fighting a proven contender (who is good enough to beat him) on Showtime (14 million subscriptions in the USA), Canadian free-to-air and Romanian free-to-air in front of 14,000+ in Montreal. (A shame Setanta's not showing it in Britain - as Carl said - it's a decent fight!)

Let's see what numbers Froch does against the man he used to call "Fruit Pastille", before the fight was signed.

Hopefully, both Bute and Froch will win and then perhaps we'll have an even better sporting rivaly between England and Romania...remember Petrescu's goal in the 90th minute of the 98 World Cup? What a beauty!

Keep your powder dry, Mr. Bunce. Who knows, perhaps in a couple of months you'll be hyping Bute as the next Calzaghe as he prepares to fight The Cobra for the IBF and WBC titles...in Montreal, of course.

[madpup]

I am with Decebel on this one. You can not refuse the fight for a world title eliminator with a top contender, because you do not like the sanctioning body, and then claim that you are ducked and feared by everyone. Doesnt wash.

[GazOC]

I don't think Froch will get many viewers on ITV due to the fact they havn't built him up at all. I know I'll be watching this in a pub with my friends asking "who's that?"

[Bunce]

Well for a start, ITV has the potential for 50 million viewers. Froch would settle for 3 million. A Mexican against a Romanian on an American channel. Come on...be real. The fight wil be anonymous - great fight but anonymous..
Nobody is saying that Bute is not a decent fighter but he is not 'our' decent fighter. Boxing has never been a fair game - ask the widow of Charley Burley, ask Witter about Hatton, ask Bomber Graham about Hagler, ask Murray about Khan etc.
Let's hope Carl does the business and then he starts to unify on better terms and then I will start the Bute is the best etc stuff!

Adios.

[GazOC]

Well for a start, ITV has the potential for 50 million viewers. Froch would settle for 3 million. A Mexican against a Romanian on an American channel. Come on...be real. The fight wil be anonymous - great fight but anonymous..
.
By that logic (and I agree with it) Taylor is perfectly justified in fighting Lacy not Froch in America. More money, more viewers, more kudos from his compatriots?

[Decebal]

Let's hope Carl does the business and then he starts to unify on better terms and then I will start the Bute is the best etc stuff!



I'll take that as a promise, Mr. Bunce!

...but, seriously speaking, I agree with GazOC...

Hype is good and necessary; overhype is corrosive...especially when all the foreigners are bad and only our lads are good. It's the kind of attitude that have harmed the careers of countless British boxers...Calzaghe, and now Froch, being the latest. Their fault was that they weren't American!

True fans want to see the best fights more than they want their lads to win. It's best for boxing.

P.S.: Bute's not the best, but he's a proven contender. With Calzaghe gone, Kessler seems to be the best.

[Bunce]

I agree with GazOC and therefore with Lou DiBella - it is a business.
Always a pleasure.

Have your emails ready for John H.Stracey on next Thursday's show. Email: [Only registered and activated users can see links].

If the British legend works I will make it a regular.

Adios.

[GazOC]

Have your emails ready for John H.Stracey on next Thursday's show. Email: [Only registered and activated users can see links].

If the British legend works I will make it a regular.

Adios.

Nice one, I've met him a few times. He used to be rep for Guinness around our way a few years ago.

[Decebal]

I agree with GazOC and therefore with Lou DiBella - it is a business.
Always a pleasure.

Have your emails ready for John H.Stracey on next Thursday's show. Email: [Only registered and activated users can see links].

If the British legend works I will make it a regular.

Adios.

Will do!

Would you also agree with me, though, Mr. Bunce?: -

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Warning: it's LONG!

[Bunce]

Can I read it later?

Adios.

[Decebal]

Can I read it later?

Adios.

Anytime. I'd be delighted to know your views. Thank you.

[DamonD]

I don't think Froch will get many viewers on ITV due to the fact they havn't built him up at all. I know I'll be watching this in a pub with my friends asking "who's that?"
But it will be watched...that's the key thing.

ITV won't mind if they get 8 million people going "Who on earth is Carl Froch?", so long as they get 8 million people.

And this is the best chance Froch has had in his career to show everyone who he really is...

[GazOC]

I suppose it depends what the fight is up against, a good film or MOTD will cost it a lot of viewers. They won't get 8 million though.....

[robpalmer135]

yeh to be fair buncey always said Haye should fight barret. still lacks the sexy factor that golota and toney would have brought. barret has the speed to clip haye.