Ed "Too Tall" Jones Vs Rocky Marciano

[mr. magoo]

For those of you who know who Too Tall Jones was ( and truth be told, most of you probably don't ), he was a professional football player who played the defensive end position, and retired with 57 quarterback sacks. For you guys from England, Scotland, Ireland, Australia,etc. Football is played a tad differently here in the states than it is abroad.

Anyway, Jones was 6'9" and 255 lbs during his boxing career. He had all but 6 pro fights, yet won all of them.

I think a man of his size and toughness gives the Rock some problems....

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[McGrain]

Is this Rocky Marciano of six pro bouts or Rocky Marciano...peak.

[mr. magoo]

Is this Rocky Marciano of six pro bouts or Rocky Marciano...peak.

Make any incarnation of Rocky that you so well choose. Rocky was too small for too tall

[McGrain]

I think Marciano would scrape UD on the pressure.

[john garfield]

[QUOTE=mr. magoo]For those of you who know who Too Tall Jones was ( and truth be told, most of you probably don't ), he was a professional football player who played the defensive end position, and retired with 57 quarterback sacks. For you guys from England, Scotland, Ireland, Australia,etc. Football is played a tad differently here in the states than it is abroad.

Anyway, Jones was 6'9" and 255 lbs during his boxing career. He had all but 6 pro fights, yet won all of them.

I think a man of his size and toughness gives the Rock some problems....

I think those "problems" would only've been on paper, mm. How's that sayin' go, "The bigger they are..."

[kenmore]

Marciano would knock Jones out. Jones -- in spite of his size -- wasn't much of a fighter. He struggled sometimes with "D" level opposition.

[Waynegrade]

Jones first fight was one Jesus `Yaqui` Meneses. All of 6ft. and 200lbs. He dropped Jones in the last rd. How do you really think Marciano`s Susie Q would do on the chin of Too Tall ? Meneses was never even ranked. it would only take one solid shot from Rocky. And he would land it...

[tommy the hat]

"Too Tall" would have as much success in the ring with Marciano as Rocky would trying to block "Too Tall" on the gridiron. Not to disparage "Too Tall", at least he had the balls to climb in the ring and try, but he was a world class football player, not boxer. But for the record, I think "Too Tall" would have destroyed Mark Gastineau if they fought.

[mr. magoo]

Jones first fight was one Jesus `Yaqui` Meneses. All of 6ft. and 200lbs. He dropped Jones in the last rd. How do you really think Marciano`s Susie Q would do on the chin of Too Tall ? Meneses was never even ranked. it would only take one solid shot from Rocky. And he would land it...

That was his first goddamn fight with no amatuer career.

TO answer your question, I think a guy who made a living coliding with giant linemen would have done fine taking Rocky's suzieQ's

[Small Print]

There have been many stories of American Football players challenging, usually smaller boxers to fights. Every story I've heard has ended in either the much bigger Football player being beat up or just humiliated.

Rocky would win, purely because he has different skills, stamina etc. Their bodies have been trained and prepared for different things.

I'll take Rocky, purely because he was a world class heavyweight boxer. Different sports entirely, different bodies, strengths and weaknesses.

[Rico Spadafora]

Marciano

[Raging B(_)LL]

Rocky would have moidered him, this is a mismatch really. No pro football player no matter what his size will last more than a few rounds against a professional heavyweight/cruiserweight boxer who packs a knockout punch in either fist and who is in spartan condition like Rocky was.

[Polymath]

lord


sanders

[amhlilhaus]

trolling at it's finest, or maybe not.

[mr. magoo]

lord


sanders

Indeed, but I don't see lord Sanders beating too tall.

[rodney]

Marcianno crushes Jones without working up a sweat.
Jones couldnt fight a lick.
Against Marciannol, he wouldnt get a punch off.
If he fought amateur, he would be considered a raw novice.
Stupid question from a fucking idiot that doesnt know shit about boxing.

[mr. magoo]

Stupid question from a fucking idiot that doesnt know shit about boxing.


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[Polymath]

Marcianno crushes Jones without working up a sweat.
Jones couldnt fight a lick.
Against Marciannol, he wouldnt get a punch off.
If he fought amateur, he would be considered a raw novice.
Stupid question from a fucking idiot that doesnt know shit about boxing.
The classic forum is a joke.

Better posts in General, you have to siphon through a lot of shit to find them mind...:lol:

[joe33]

That was his first goddamn fight with no amatuer career.

TO answer your question, I think a guy who made a living coliding with giant linemen would have done fine taking Rocky's suzieQ's

Coliding yes,not taking a full on punch to the chin,or as rocky did dozens of punches all over the body and the head

[Polymath]

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thats really disturbing :lol:

[SteveO]

The Rock would take him. Just too damn good for Ed.

[aj415]

That was his first goddamn fight with no amatuer career.

TO answer your question, I think a guy who made a living coliding with giant linemen would have done fine taking Rocky's suzieQ's

Football players don't have to take blows to the head that often...

[kickbxn5]

Is this a joke? Ed Jones was HORRIBLE as a fighter. He was stiff, rigid...he SUCKED. I'd pick ROCKY BALBOA to beat him, much less the great Marciano!

[john garfield]

When I see a thread like this, all I can think of are boys the world
over in the 1940s who bought into those Charles Atlas ads on the backs of magazines, where this spindly kid with a girl on the beach, who gets sand kicked in his face by a bully, returns a year later to kick his ass after building a body like Superman.

Being Goliath only matters in a comic book, not in the ring.

[mcvey]

For those of you who know who Too Tall Jones was ( and truth be told, most of you probably don't ), he was a professional football player who played the defensive end position, and retired with 57 quarterback sacks. For you guys from England, Scotland, Ireland, Australia,etc. Football is played a tad differently here in the states than it is abroad.

Anyway, Jones was 6'9" and 255 lbs during his boxing career. He had all but 6 pro fights, yet won all of them.

I think a man of his size and toughness gives the Rock some problems....

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As Muhammad Ali once said about a proposed match with Wilt Chamberlain

TIMBER!

[Seamus]

Marcianno crushes Jones without working up a sweat.
Jones couldnt fight a lick.
Against Marciannol, he wouldnt get a punch off.
If he fought amateur, he would be considered a raw novice.
Stupid question from a fucking idiot that doesnt know shit about boxing.

hear-hear!

[clark]

Marciano would DESTROY him. I'll say first minute.

[Waynegrade]

Getting hit by an NFL lineman is one thing. Getting hit by a short wellturned over dynamite right hand is another. They are two completely different types of blows. Jones could not take Marciano`s best shot, period.

[Bummy Davis]

When I see a thread like this, all I can think of are boys the world
over in the 1940s who bought into those Charles Atlas ads on the backs of magazines, where this spindly kid with a girl on the beach, who gets sand kicked in his face by a bully, returns a year later to kick his ass after building a body like Superman.

Being Goliath only matters in a comic book, not in the ring.


I was thinking the same thing....only fighter over 6"7 who was quality were Valuev and Vitali and they use modern training and weight methods....Yet I still dont see them holding up to Rockys 15 rd battering and pace

[marciano1952]

an Alltime Great Fighter Vs a Big man with 6 Fights it should be obvious yet I know some have taken Jones to win which is Laughable

I havent read the whole thread

[janitor]

Only an elite world class profesional fighter could hope to achiev anything against a heavyweight of the calibre of Marciano.

Putting a man with six profesional fights in with him would be tantamount to cold blooded murder however big and strong he was.

[Sweet Pea]

The classic forum is a joke.

Better posts in GeneralThis post is a joke.

[Sweet Pea]

That was his first goddamn fight with no amatuer career.

TO answer your question, I think a guy who made a living coliding with giant linemen would have done fine taking Rocky's suzieQ'sGimme a fucking break Magoo. This is foolish.

[he grant]

This must be a joke , right ? A rank amateur vs Rocky Marciano , please.

[BamBam]

How about a lampost v Marciano. The lampost is bigger and heavier plus they rarely get knocked over. Also the are used to heavy collisions with cars sometimes so I reckon the lampost can take Marciano.

[Stonehands89]

Marcianno crushes Jones without working up a sweat.
Jones couldnt fight a lick.
Against Marciannol, he wouldnt get a punch off.
If he fought amateur, he would be considered a raw novice.
Stupid question from a fucking idiot that doesnt know shit about boxing.
.... "Marcianno"....?

...Magoo a bleeping idiot "that" "doesnt" know bleep about boxing...?

rodnney, it's time to say bye-bye.

[young griffo]

.... "Marcianno"....?

...Magoo a bleeping idiot "that" "doesnt" know bleep about boxing...?

rodnney, it's time to say bye-bye.
Spelling errors aside it really is a bullshit thread.

It's laughable that in another thread so many people reckoned David Tua would knock Rocky out but now someone reckons a six fight novelty act beats Marciano.

Pretty insulting in my opinion.

[mr. magoo]

Spelling errors aside it really is a bullshit thread.

It's laughable that in another thread so many people reckoned David Tua would knock Rocky out but now someone reckons a six fight novelty act beats Marciano.

Pretty insulting in my opinion.

Let me clearify something for a moment. I never said that Jones would beat Marciano. I said that a man of his size and athleticism might give him some trouble. I did however joke a little about Rocky being too small for too tall. And frankly, I don't feel very daft for thinking that his giving Marciano some rounds might be the case. Jones would have been 11 inches taller, 70 Lbs heavier, and was a very strong, tough and athletic individual. He may not have had much boxing talent, but he was well capable of putting on boxing gloves and throwing a punch. To tell you the truth, it almost seems more foolish to me, for someone to think that Rocky would just go out there, brush up against the guy, and leave him a bloody mess before the first bell, then it does for Jones to give him at least 7 or 8 rounds of hard work....

At anyrate, I figured this thread would get people in an uproar, and unfortunately I was right...

[young griffo]

Let me clearify something for a moment. I never said that Jones would beat Marciano. I said that a man of his size and athleticism might give him some trouble. I did however joke a little about Rocky being too small for too tall. And frankly, I don't feel very daft for thinking that his giving Marciano some rounds might be the case. Jones would have been 11 inches taller, 70 Lbs heavier, and was a very strong, tough and athletic individual. He may not have had much boxing talent, but he was well capable of putting on boxing gloves and throwing a punch. To tell you the truth, it almost seems more foolish to me, for someone to think that Rocky would just go out there, brush up against the guy, and leave him a bloody mess before the first bell, then it does for Jones to give him at least 7 or 8 rounds of hard work....

At anyrate, I figured this thread would get people in an uproar, and unfortunately I was right...
Sorry to misquote you.

But do you really think just because Jones was big he'd be able to give Rocky some rounds?

Size without boxing ability means nothing.

Look at Mark Gastineau.He was a big,strong athletic man but he was hamstrung by the fact that he couldn't fight a lick.Whilst he may have been able to take it and dish it out on the football field it didn't translate to the boxing ring.He got schooled by a much smaller journeyman as he didn't have the stamina,technique or ability to succeed against even a moderately skilled fighter.

And your asking Jones to match it with an all-time great fighter and puncher.

Seriously I doubt that Jones would even be able to land a punch cleanly on Rocky fighting out of his crouch and he certinly wouldn't be able to stop him from getting inside and torturing his body with those pile driver punches of his.Remember the old saying "kill the body and the head will fall" which I think would happen here in 1-2 rounds max.

[Marciano Frazier]

Jones never progressed past the clubfighter level in his career. Literally the "best" opponent he fought was an 18-12-1 guy who had won only two of his last eight fights. There's no particularly strong reason to think he was a better fighter than guys like Big Bill Wilson or Jerry Jackson, both of whom Marciano destroyed in the first round. Why would people think Marciano would wipe Jones out early? Because Marciano would wipe most obscure-clubfighter-level guys out early. If I were to find some random obscure clubfighter who had a half-dozen pro fights in his entire career and never faced anyone in the top 200 in the world, even if he was big, I highly doubt you or anyone else would take seriously the idea that he could compete with Marciano or any other great world heavyweight champion; it seems you're taking this seriously because Jones is famous as a football player.

[he grant]

It seems there are two different arguments being made here ....

The first is that Too Tall could compete with Marciano which is a joke in my opinion.

The second is that a world class, professional fighter with tremendous size advantages could defeat Marciano based on skill plus and that answer is sure. I think Ali, Holmes and Lewis fit that bill ... again, that is simply my opinion.

Back to Ed, no way.

[Ezzard]

Honestly a decent MW contender would beat Jones. He was never any good. Loads of these kind of guys from other sports come out of the woodwork thinking all they need is a bit of fitness and the basics. they always get pasted.

watch a football amtch or NFl or rugby when a mass brawl breaks out. None of them can ever fight.

[mr. magoo]

Jones never progressed past the clubfighter level in his career. Literally the "best" opponent he fought was an 18-12-1 guy who had won only two of his last eight fights. There's no particularly strong reason to think he was a better fighter than guys like Big Bill Wilson or Jerry Jackson, both of whom Marciano destroyed in the first round. Why would people think Marciano would wipe Jones out early? Because Marciano would wipe most obscure-clubfighter-level guys out early. If I were to find some random obscure clubfighter who had a half-dozen pro fights in his entire career and never faced anyone in the top 200 in the world, even if he was big, I highly doubt you or anyone else would take seriously the idea that he could compete with Marciano or any other great world heavyweight champion; it seems you're taking this seriously because Jones is famous as a football player.

True, Jones was better off on the grid iron than in the boxing ring.

[mr. magoo]

Sorry to misquote you.

But do you really think just because Jones was big he'd be able to give Rocky some rounds?

Size without boxing ability means nothing.

Look at Mark Gastineau.He was a big,strong athletic man but he was hamstrung by the fact that he couldn't fight a lick.Whilst he may have been able to take it and dish it out on the football field it didn't translate to the boxing ring.He got schooled by a much smaller journeyman as he didn't have the stamina,technique or ability to succeed against even a moderately skilled fighter.

And your asking Jones to match it with an all-time great fighter and puncher.

Seriously I doubt that Jones would even be able to land a punch cleanly on Rocky fighting out of his crouch and he certinly wouldn't be able to stop him from getting inside and torturing his body with those pile driver punches of his.Remember the old saying "kill the body and the head will fall" which I think would happen here in 1-2 rounds max.

Yeah on second thought, I don't think Jones would have lasted long against anyone who remotely had any semblence to a world beater. A journeyman named Mike White who was 6'10", and never went anywhere would have likely beaten Ed Jones. I suppose size only matters if the individual who posses it has the coordination and boxing skill to compliment it.

[clark]

Anyone can obviously post what they want. Reply or don't. In this case, Marciano wins easily within the first minute. Any fight can be interesting. This is what I think would be the outcome.

[Dempsey1238]

Once people start thinking that Ed "Too Tall" Jones would give Marciano a run for his money, perhaps even beating Marciano, is when the Rock gets heavly underrated.

I am a inch taller than Marciano. Maybe because I am taller, I may have a shot of beating Marciano, even though I know full well, that he ko me with the first punch. Perhaps even kill me.

[Calroid]

Dempsey beat the living tar out of a huge fighter who was a world champion.

Marciano against a rank novice?

:patsch


I would delete this thread Mr Magoo...QUICKLY

[Maxmomer]

Size doesn't matter when the gap in skill is this big. Too Tall would be pissing blood and eating through a straw for a month. And then die, too, probably.

[OLD FOGEY]

I saw Too-Tall Jones fight and he was nothing much except big. He actually lost the fight I saw, being down twice in a four round fight, but got the decision anyway. This thread is silly. You at least have to be a fighter before you can be called a great fighter.

[Calroid]

Jones was black and over 200 pounds so that means he would knock out Rocky "The worthless pile of dog crap" Marciano in 1 round.

You really are a work of art. Respect must follow you around where ever you go.

[KCD]

:patsch Oh my God, a pro footballer against an all time great:lol:

Rocky in 1:rofl

[SuzieQ49]

Jones was black and over 200 pounds so that means he would knock out Rocky "The worthless pile of dog crap" Marciano in 1 round.


Then why didnt a black joe louis who was 214lb knockout marciano?

[he grant]

There are some smart boxing guys here, disturbed and egotistical personalities aside ... why does anyone respond to the losers who simply post outrageous statements to get reactions and recognition ? Just ignore them ...