When Sam Peter Beats Vitali will people admit vitlali is not that good?

[SuzieQ49]

First off, lets hope vitali even gets into the ring which is very unlikely considering he cancelled out on the hasim rahman fight 4 times, a boxing history record!!! and he also pulled out of the mccline fight, and quit against lightheavyweight with 3 rounds to go, so obviousely he is very fragile.


If he does make it into the ring, even against a predictable plodding crude overated bomber like peter, theres a good chance he might get beat. if he does, what will your opinion be?

[janitor]

No

VK is going to be shot and I expect this to be a spectacle akin to a public execution.

On the plus side a Peter win will result in a Wlad Peter II match which will create a new lineal champion.

[mcvey]

First off, lets hope vitali even gets into the ring which is very unlikely considering he cancelled out on the hasim rahman fight 4 times, a boxing history record!!! and he also pulled out of the mccline fight, and quit against lightheavyweight with 3 rounds to go, so obviousely he is very fragile.


If he does make it into the ring, even against a predictable plodding crude overated bomber like peter, theres a good chance he might get beat. if he does, what will your opinion be?
Given the time he has out of the ring I don't think it will affect his standing much,actually, I think he will win.If he kos Peter in 1 rd I won't rate him an ATG,likewise if his Brother racks up a series of stoppages against the available contenders I wont put him in the Greatest Pantheon,the division stinks,Ruiz is still a viable contender,how old is Maskaev?,the better guys tip toe around avoiding each other,if Vitaly does get in there with Peter,as limited as I think Peter is ,you must give the Ukranian credit for taking on one,if not the most dangerous of the division.

[kenmore]

If Vitali loses, it will prove that he is over the hill and that he's not an especially good heavyweight anymore. However that will not change the fact that during his prime, Vitali was pretty damned good.

I think Vitali should have remained retired...that would have protected his legacy.

[Russell]

:rofl:rofl:rofl

[mr. magoo]

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[Marciano Frazier]

Though we have many similar views and I appreciate most of your contributions to the forum, I must say you come across as strongly biased against the Klitschkos. By no means would losing to a prime contender (even a limited one like Peter) at 37 years old in one's first fight back after a four-year layoff demonstrate that he was just "not that good."

[sitiyzal]

is the ts on about Vitali not ever being that good or just currently?

[Quick Cash]

It would simply demonstrate that Vitali no longer has it after years of struggling with injury. Under normal circumstances, Vitali would wipe the floor with Peter. It's as simple as that.

[PowerPuncher]

Your hate on Vitali will come back to haunt you Suzie, Peter is piss poor and gets schooled (again)

[ChrisPontius]

:lol:

[Polymath]

First off, lets hope vitali even gets into the ring which is very unlikely considering he cancelled out on the hasim rahman fight 4 times, a boxing history record!!! and he also pulled out of the mccline fight, and quit against lightheavyweight with 3 rounds to go, so obviousely he is very fragile.


If he does make it into the ring, even against a predictable plodding crude overated bomber like peter, theres a good chance he might get beat. if he does, what will your opinion be?

Good points.

Corrie Sanders would beat Peter now! And I mean right now! In his slippers and pajamas :yep

[TommyV]

No, they will not.

They will turn to the obvious excuse of him being 'shot' and then point out that Dr No Balls has had a great career, beating, erm, beating...ermm.

[SuzieQ49]

Though we have many similar views and I appreciate most of your contributions to the forum, I must say you come across as strongly biased against the Klitschkos.


Well I am a big fan of Wladimir Klitschko so I would hope to god I don't come across as biased against him!! His brother on the otherhand is a fragile quitter who tested positive for steroids. Lets see if Vitali manages to make it into the ring.....

[mcvey]

Well I am a big fan of Wladimir Klitschko so I would hope to god I don't come across as biased against him!! His brother on the otherhand is a fragile quitter who tested positive for steroids. Lets see if Vitali manages to make it into the ring.....
Well ,if he don't make it, he will have tried kick boxing and conventional boxing ,maybe he should pit his skills with you on the mat Suzie ? I'm sure you would not be lacking in endeavour!

[mr. magoo]

what will your opinion be?

Sorry about the provocative image that I posted earlier. I couldn't resist.

Anyway, to answer your question which was "what will your opinion be?"

I really don't think that Vitali's legacy should change, given that he is now 37 years of age, and hasn't fought in a full 4 years, plus has spent much of the last few years mending injuries. Even if Peter destroys him, it shouldn't be held against him anymore than any other champion who has come out of retirement to fight a reigning titlist, only to lose. On the otherhand however, should Vitali win, it would be a great credit to his legacy ( given the circumstances ).

[Mendoza]

First off, lets hope vitali even gets into the ring which is very unlikely considering he cancelled out on the hasim rahman fight 4 times, a boxing history record!!! and he also pulled out of the mccline fight, and quit against lightheavyweight with 3 rounds to go, so obviousely he is very fragile.


If he does make it into the ring, even against a predictable plodding crude overated bomber like peter, theres a good chance he might get beat. if he does, what will your opinion be?

No, but if you want to go 0-2 on an avatar bet, let me know :)


Vitlai has nothing to lose and everything to gain

[SuperSouthpaw]

Im sorry I never realized i lost? u were the one who said "peter is going to destroy toney in early rounds easily, way too big and powerful"

I said "toney is going to outbox peter cleverly and land counter right hands all night and win a decision"


I believe MY PREDICTION was much closer to reality. the judges bailed you out big time, everyone knows toney won the first fight.



Vitlai has nothing to lose and everything to gain

what if he gets knocked out in 1-2 rounds or quits on his stool?

[SuperSouthpaw]

I'll tell you what though, ill make an avater bet with you. not that it will mean much because in less than a month ill be heading out to great lakes/then Cornado California for BUD/s Navy SEAL school to become a SEAL. go ahead hotshot.

[Axl_Nose]

Im hoping Vitali can beat Peter as Peter is nothing, hes a poor mans David Tua - hes ok at what he does but a skilled fighter would make him look like an absolute bum .... Vitali isnt great either, his whole career is based on 'being competitive' with an under-prepared Lewis and Lewis still beat him on 10 days notice .... These guys, like the rest of the heavyweight division are shit, we must all kneel and pray that David Haye has the goods to wipe the slate and clean up this dog of a division, and dont even mention that bum Povetkin !!

[Mendoza]

I'll tell you what though, ill make an avater bet with you. not that it will mean much because in less than a month ill be heading out to great lakes/then Cornado California for BUD/s Navy SEAL school to become a SEAL. go ahead hotshot.

So in other words, there is nothing for me to gain in a wager since you will be pursing more important matters.

I wish you luck in becoming a seal. However, take one last pointer; you could have had me on the wager. Being underestimated or using stealth is a way to win. You do not always have to charge up a hill. I’m sure the seals will teach you that.

[he grant]

Vitali has not had a fight in many years and was falling apart physically when he retired ... he is now in his late 30's .... unless Peter walks into a huge shot early he will bust up a rusty Vitali as he should ... still, the one thing I give both Klitsckos is that they are very smart guys ... Vitali must have something up so it may be interesting ...