Wladimir Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

[ironfist405]

Wladimir Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis who would win if they both fought in their primes?

[kenmore]

I have always been a huge Vladimir Klitschko fan, but I do not think he would have survived against Lewis. Lewis was simply too athletic, too fluid, and too powerful for Vlad. It would be a good fight as long as it lasted, but eventually Lewis would land a knockout blow and Vlad would take the count.

I think Lewis's sweeping uppercuts and hooks would be make the difference between these two guys. Both are equal in terms of their straight punching (jabs and straight rights), but Vlad doesn't throw many curved punches, such as uppercuts and hooks. Lewis threw curved punches with lightning speed and deadly power.

Essentially, Lewis would have too many punching angles for Vlad.

[BlackWater]

Klitschko floors him

[slicksouthpaw16]

With the exception of punching power, Lewis had every single advantage over Klitschko and then some. In fact i don't even compare Wlad to the great heavyweights, because when the heavyweight division was at least a little good, he was being knocked out. Cory Sanders? Lamon Brewster? Better yet, Ross Purity? Lewis by KO, it would strongly resemble the Michael Grant fight.

[Quick Cash]

Lewis would win within six.

[mcvey]

Wladimir Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis who would win if they both fought in their primes?
Wlad may be more mobile and fluid than his brother but he appears timid at times Lewis would first intimidate and then ko him imo.

[Sakura]

Hard to call. Both hit hard enought to Ko and both have suspect chin ..Wladimir is faster and harder puncher than his older brother..

[ChrisPontius]

Both are comparable in handspeed, power, athleticism, technique and size.

The big difference here is chin and fighting instinct, where Lewis has a big and essential edge. Lewis fought several wars (Mason, Mercer, Grant, Vitali Klitschko) and always came out on top. Unless Wladimir lands something really big, i'd go with the British Canuck of Jamaican descent.

[he grant]

Lennox by brutal KO ...

[TommyV]

Oh Lewis easily.

His chin is nowhere near as bad as people make out. Infact I would go as far as to say it's pretty good. Wlad's is very, very average.

[Minotauro]

who voted for Wlad?

[PowerPuncher]

Wlad would faint on the way to the ring

[TommyV]

Wlad would faint on the way to the ring

:lol:

[D-MAC]

Lewis KO

[sp6r=underrated]

Both are comparable in handspeed, power, athleticism, technique and size.

The big difference here is chin and fighting instinct, where Lewis has a big and essential edge. Lewis fought several wars (Mason, Mercer, Grant, Vitali Klitschko) and always came out on top. Unless Wladimir lands something really big, i'd go with the British Canuck of Jamaican descent.

You forgot to add the British Canuck of Jamaican descent who lives on south beach.

[McGrain]

Easy points win for Lewis or freakish one punch KO for Klistchko with about a 90-10% breakdown in terms of chacnes. In other words, I would need better than 10-1 that Klit wins by KO.

I'm not denigrating Wlad. It's just that Lewis has a swerious edge in areas where there are serious edges to be had, and a only gives up a slight edge in footwork, nowhere else.

Something like 9-3 in rounds. Boring fight.

[mrbassie]

Wlad is a poor man's Lewis. Lewis rushes him and blasts him out early every time.

[SuperSouthpaw]

I like Lennox by knockout! But sanders knocks out both these men in 2 rounds!!!

[Sakura]

I like Lennox by knockout! But sanders knocks out both these men in 2 rounds!!!

Very possible scenario..i give an edge to Sanders against both..

[slicksouthpaw16]

I like Lennox by knockout! But sanders knocks out both these men in 2 rounds!!!
Who has Sanders beaten other than Wlad? He was a one trick pony, and was about to retire after the Wlad fight and only came in as the opponent. What does he has that Mercer, Tua, Holyfield, Morrison or Bruno doesn't? All of them would obliterate Sanders. He got stopped by Hassim Rachman and lesser fighters than that.

[janitor]

Both are comparable in handspeed, power, athleticism, technique and size.

The big difference here is chin and fighting instinct, where Lewis has a big and essential edge. Lewis fought several wars (Mason, Mercer, Grant, Vitali Klitschko) and always came out on top. Unless Wladimir lands something really big, i'd go with the British Canuck of Jamaican descent.

I agree that Lewis wins but from a diferent direction.

If Wlad had Oliver McCalls chin I would still bet on Lewis.

[mr. magoo]

I would have to pick Lewis by a decision, only because Lewis did not posses Wlad's achiles heel which is a strong left hook. On the otherhand, wlad has a fairly solid right, along with a servicable jab and powerful size. However, I don't feel that Klitshko had the delivery capabilities to expose Lewis's weaknesses ( though an upset is possible .)

Lewis takes this one, but it could be a treachurous test..

[ChrisPontius]

I agree that Lewis wins but from a diferent direction.

If Wlad had Oliver McCalls chin I would still bet on Lewis.

How sure would your bet be, in that case?

[punchy]

I can't see any way Lewis would lose here in fact I can see him catching Wlad early and it not going two rounds.

[Mendoza]

Wladimir Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis?

Who has Steward in camp and in his corner? I think this means something here.

While I think Lewis is over all better, there is no doubt Wlad has the tools ( Big right hand, better jab, and more speed to win )

[Mike T]

The Lewis against Grant or Golota...Lewis ko 1 or 2. I can't see Wlad standing up to that kind of assult by someone as skilled as Lewis. Peter was even more limited than Sanders.

[fidds]

I would have to pick Lewis by a decision, only because Lewis did not posses Wlad's achiles heel which is a strong left hook. On the otherhand, wlad has a fairly solid right, along with a servicable jab and powerful size. However, I don't feel that Klitshko had the delivery capabilities to expose Lewis's weaknesses ( though an upset is possible .)

Lewis takes this one, but it could be a treachurous test..



Watch Lewis bruno :good


Lewis rushes wlad like golota, grant as lewis respects wlad and would have his game face on.

Lewis inside 3 rounds :thumbsup

[godking]

2 outcomes.

1 Lewis goes for the kill this fights end with Lewis brutally Koing Wlad in 4 rounds

2 Lewis figths carefully close but clear lewis points victory

[janitor]

How sure would your bet be, in that case?

I wouldnt bet my life savings but I would strongly expect Lewis to win.

[wladsugar]

It's deppresing to see how overrated is Wlad in this site.

Lennox knocks him out inside one round. i'm not trying to sound hyperbolic. I really believe it. Wlad would be frightened. Lesser boxers made him loose his composure. Lennox, well...

[ChrisPontius]

I wouldnt bet my life savings but I would strongly expect Lewis to win.


Typical bias because you share one of his handful of nationalities.:-(

[Bummy Davis]

Both are comparable in handspeed, power, athleticism, technique and size.

The big difference here is chin and fighting instinct, where Lewis has a big and essential edge. Lewis fought several wars (Mason, Mercer, Grant, Vitali Klitschko) and always came out on top. Unless Wladimir lands something really big, i'd go with the British Canuck of Jamaican descent.

Ditto

[mrbassie]

Typical bias because you share one of his handful of nationalities.:-(

That's a pathetic response. Either you've got nothing to say or you can't be bothered to type it. Lewis beat Ruddock, Golota, Vitali, Mason, a past his best but still pretty good Holyfield, Morrison, Mercer, Bruno and more. Who's Wlad ever beaten? Chris fucking Byrd. Wlad wouldn't see the third round against Lewis and would be lucky to make the half way mark against most of the Lewis-opponents listed.

[JohnThomas1]

That's a pathetic response. Either you've got nothing to say or you can't be bothered to type it. Lewis beat Ruddock, Golota, Vitali, Mason, a past his best but still pretty good Holyfield, Morrison, Mercer, Bruno and more. Who's Wlad ever beaten? Chris fucking Byrd. Wlad wouldn't see the third round against Lewis and would be lucky to make the half way mark against most of the Lewis-opponents listed.

Their topic is actually Lewis vs a Wlad with McCall's chin. I have a feeling P might be joshing a bit.

[fists of fury]

While I too believe Lennox would ultimately win, how can we be so sure it lasts only one or two rounds?
Despite my criticisms of this heavyweight era, Wlad is a good fighter. Lennox simply can't afford to rush in there, trying to score a knockout. It may very well be he that gets knocked out, if he gets careless.

Lennox still needs to respect Wlad, and what he brings to the ring.

In addition, I believe Wlad has a better jab than Lewis had, and as has been noted in terms of straight punching doesn't give ground to Lewis either.
I've said it before, but I don't believe Lewis liked being jabbed. Bruno won the battle of the jabs in their fight, and the limited Mercer, who possessed a notably good jab, fought on level terms with Lewis for long stretches of their fight. Rahman landed some heavy jabs on him as well.

Wlad has a truly excellent jab, that I cannot fault him on. It would be interesting to see how Lewis copes with it.

But in the end, I cannot pick Wlad here. Lewis is tougher mentally and physically and handles pressure far better. He also has a better punch variety and has more poise.

I think a stoppage or knockout around round 7 or 8 is not unreasonable.

[mrbassie]

Their topic is actually Lewis vs a Wlad with McCall's chin. I have a feeling P might be joshing a bit.

oh. didn't realise, haven't read the first page. appy polly logies. If Wlad gets McCalls chin I think it's only fair that Lewis gets Ray Mercer's bile duct

[ChrisPontius]

oh. didn't realise, haven't read the first page. appy polly logies. If Wlad gets McCalls chin I think it's only fair that Lewis gets Ray Mercer's bile duct

No problem. I was just trying to get janitor angry with that comment, but the man has not replied. Damn paleontologists. :-(

[mcvey]

That's a pathetic response. Either you've got nothing to say or you can't be bothered to type it. Lewis beat Ruddock, Golota, Vitali, Mason, a past his best but still pretty good Holyfield, Morrison, Mercer, Bruno and more. Who's Wlad ever beaten? Chris fucking Byrd. Wlad wouldn't see the third round against Lewis and would be lucky to make the half way mark against most of the Lewis-opponents listed.
MR Pontius is not pontificating ,I suspect he is indulging in humour, which though rare is not unknown,he is something of a Wag.

[JohnThomas1]

:lol: guys

This threads sure taken an unexpected twist.

[ChrisPontius]

MR Pontius is not pontificating ,I suspect he is indulging in humour, which though rare is not unknown,he is something of a Wag.

I'm not sure if i want to know what a Wag is.

[PowerPuncher]

While I too believe Lennox would ultimately win, how can we be so sure it lasts only one or two rounds?
Despite my criticisms of this heavyweight era, Wlad is a good fighter. Lennox simply can't afford to rush in there, trying to score a knockout. It may very well be he that gets knocked out, if he gets careless.

Lennox still needs to respect Wlad, and what he brings to the ring.

In addition, I believe Wlad has a better jab than Lewis had, and as has been noted in terms of straight punching doesn't give ground to Lewis either.
I've said it before, but I don't believe Lewis liked being jabbed. Bruno won the battle of the jabs in their fight, and the limited Mercer, who possessed a notably good jab, fought on level terms with Lewis for long stretches of their fight. Rahman landed some heavy jabs on him as well.

Wlad has a truly excellent jab, that I cannot fault him on. It would be interesting to see how Lewis copes with it.

But in the end, I cannot pick Wlad here. Lewis is tougher mentally and physically and handles pressure far better. He also has a better punch variety and has more poise.

I think a stoppage or knockout around round 7 or 8 is not unreasonable.

Its not a certainty Lewis KOs Wlad in 1-2rounds BUT its a strong possibility. This isnt a massive insult to Wlad, if Rudduck/Golotta had retired pre-Lewis no one would believe in a fantasy match Lewis takes them out as quick as he does.

[he grant]

If Wlad had an iron chin he beats just about anyone. Unfortunately he has a china chin ... As far as any form of insinuations based on nationality, that is the last thing any of us need right now and should not be tolerated. I know once John Thomas thought I made a comment he found offensive and for the record I state here and now that was definetely not my intention and I apologize for any offense. There is more than enough fu-ked up sh-t going on today so let's try and enjoy the forum for the escapism that it is ...

[mrbassie]

If Super-Sanders had had Randy Macho Man Savage's beard and face, he'd have ko'd Vitali.