View Full Version : crab defense - pro/con
mario
08-01-2007, 11:43 AM
what are the pros and cons of using the crab defense ala Smokin' Bert Cooper and how is the proper way to use it?
MrSmall
08-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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JMonster
08-01-2007, 02:32 PM
it doesn't cover the body. only the head
4eyes
08-01-2007, 11:00 PM
you can't punch from that position so countering is out
younghypnotiq
08-01-2007, 11:03 PM
whats the crab defense?
younghypnotiq
08-01-2007, 11:23 PM
this should answer ur question. [Only registered and activated users can see links]
MagnificentMatt
08-01-2007, 11:42 PM
Figured id throw in a quick little fact...sometimes its called the Armadillo Stance :-)
younghypnotiq
08-02-2007, 12:12 AM
no its not
MagnificentMatt
08-02-2007, 12:51 AM
Im pretty sure i've heard it somewhere before..
younghypnotiq
08-02-2007, 12:55 AM
armadilo is when you cros your arms infront of your face
MagnificentMatt
08-02-2007, 01:10 AM
I didnt think Armadillo was another way to say Cross....I thought it was for crab, guess i just got confused..
younghypnotiq
08-02-2007, 01:15 AM
crab is like mayweather. and armidillo is when you put the arms horizontaly infront of ur facce
BeGGeRs
08-02-2007, 05:25 AM
May weathers uses the Philly shell defence.
- Left hand held just above the waist, around stomach-height, held across the midsection (sometimes held at 90 degrees but not always) so that your left fist is nearly touching your right elbow
- right hand held high, you should be easily able to hold your chin between your thumb and pointer finger. Your elbow should be a couple of inches from the right of your belly button and very tight to your body
- Bury your chin in your left shoulder and roll it slightly forward
- your stance should be very "Sideways"
- Very mobile stance, keep a "thumbtack under your heels" (i.e. don't plant your feet but you're not exactly on your toes either, there should be enough room for a thumbtack to fit under there). That isn't to say this style is restricted to outside fighting, James Toney makes great use of it on the inside, but it is primarily a defensive/counter-punching style and movement/footwork are both integral to good defense
- Keep your head in line or slightly outside of your opponent's left shoulder to further frustrate their attempts to establish the right hand when you're in close. This also works to put "pressure without punching" on your opponent, which will make them feel obligated to punch at such a close range. With your head outside of their left shoulders, slipping the jab is a small, easy movement, and their right hand is often not a viable shot in this position, so you're relatively safe. Still, being so close to them, they'll often feel obligated to throw leather (even in a less-than-ideal position like the one they're now in) which means more countering opportunities as they over-reach and get frustrated
mario
08-02-2007, 08:47 AM
good stuff beggers much respect, thank you! = )
mario
08-02-2007, 08:50 AM
thanks too younghypnotiq much respect = )
younghypnotiq
08-02-2007, 03:13 PM
Np
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