PDA

View Full Version : Arguello vs. Chavez at 130lbs.

Waynegrade
09-28-2008, 06:08 PM
Chavez was nasty at this weight. But, Arguello too was an incredible force at 130. How does everyone see this one go? Arguello had crunching power at this weight, and a debilatating body attack. Chavez had a granite chin, also a nasty body attack(and undreated boxing skills).Arguello`s one glaring weakness( foot speed) wouldn`t be a problem here. he wouldn`t have to go looking for Chavez. Could Chavez crowd Arguello enough and not give him room to work? Pryor can`t be an accurate measuring stcik. Because at jr. welter, he was just too strong for Arguello. Arguello with his power at this weight, could cause big problems for Chavez coming in. I see this fight going two ways. But, before I come clean, what do you guys think???
ThinBlack
11-01-2011, 06:09 PM
Think Alexis manages to edge Julio at 130.His power definitely will be felt by Chavez, and Chavez will make his presence felt with his power.I could possibly see Arguello stopping Julio late in a 15 rounder, but most likely he win by MD. A draw isn't out of the question.
Addie
11-01-2011, 08:37 PM
I don't see any Super Featherweight stopping JCC inside the scheduled distance, at least not any Super-Feather I've seen on film. That doesn't neccesarily mean Arguello can't win this fight, but I just think Chavez will be the busier of the two and he'll take the shots slightly better. Arguello will of course return with jolting shots and be able to hold his own in the combination punching department, but I see most rounds being won on work rate - and JCC will be the more wasteful of the two, in my opinion. Sometimes I think Alexis was almost too patient. He waited on the opponent's mistakes whereas JCC was a little more bullish and took the initiative.


Both fighters could get hurt here, but I favour JCC to win more rounds - especially early on. A great fight in prospect.
robert ungurean
11-01-2011, 11:03 PM
I favor Arguello. It would be gruelling but to me Arguello is the better fighter.
Vic-JofreBRASIL
11-01-2011, 11:44 PM
I don't see any Super Featherweight stopping JCC inside the scheduled distance, at least not any Super-Feather I've seen on film. That doesn't neccesarily mean Arguello can't win this fight, but I just think Chavez will be the busier of the two and he'll take the shots slightly better. Arguello will of course return with jolting shots and be able to hold his own in the combination punching department, but I see most rounds being won on work rate - and JCC will be the more wasteful of the two, in my opinion. Sometimes I think Alexis was almost too patient. He waited on the opponent's mistakes whereas JCC was a little more bullish and took the initiative.


Both fighters could get hurt here, but I favour JCC to win more rounds - especially early on. A great fight in prospect.


Perfect ! Agree with this !:deal
El Bujia
11-02-2011, 12:04 AM
I dunno. What I think could be particularly interesting here is what role Arguello's body attack would play on the pressuring Chavez.
laxpdx
11-02-2011, 04:08 AM
I like Arguello by UD, due to accurate, jolting shots on the incoming Chavez. JCC will make him work, but Alexis will ultimately land the more meaningful punches.
Liechhardt
11-02-2011, 06:07 AM
Arguello.
GDG
11-02-2011, 07:06 AM
Very close fight with fans arguing afterwards about the merits of accuracy over volume.

JCC SD.
sweet_scientist
11-02-2011, 08:56 AM
Assuming it's not the weight drained version that faced Laporte, or the fighter with the injured hand that faced Lockridge, I like Chavez.

The better infighter and the chin that can withstand Arguello's fight changers/enders.
lora
11-02-2011, 09:35 AM
I like Chavez here too, especially if he boxes a bit more cautiously(or with more variety) than he did against opponents with lesser power.He has the right balance of power, skill, workrate and toughness to grind out the rounds.

It's one i've gone back and forth on over the years though.
Goyourownway
11-02-2011, 11:21 AM
I don't think it's a given Chavez would try press the fight and force the action against someone like Arguello.
PowerPuncher
11-02-2011, 11:23 AM
Tough pick but Arguello and I think he could even KO Chavez. Chavez probably has the better footwork/defence though, Arguello the range accuracy and power plus he's at his best weight, Chavez is a little pre prime here
Danny
11-02-2011, 11:59 AM
Arguello takes this due to him Countering Chavez. Both were ATG's, but Arguello was better.
bodhi
11-02-2011, 12:09 PM
Kid Chocolate jumps in and outboxes both at the same time.
Addie
11-02-2011, 01:13 PM
Kid Chocolate jumps in and outboxes both at the same time.

No.
frankenfrank
11-02-2011, 04:40 PM
Chavez >> Arguello , but @ 130 IDK .
bodhi
11-02-2011, 04:47 PM
No.

:hi:
itrymariti
11-02-2011, 04:57 PM
Chavez clear decision
VX.Nefarious
11-08-2011, 08:42 PM
Close, would have loved to see Sanchez vs both Arguello and Chavez at 130, Great match ups
slip&counter
11-08-2011, 09:08 PM
Chavez decision. I think his defense is underrated. The perfect pressure fighter and too much heat for Arguello.
Kid Bacon
11-08-2011, 10:07 PM
Arguello by a whisker

All things considered and compared, Arguello is the smarter and more adaptative fighter here
El Bujia
11-08-2011, 10:11 PM
I don't know that Chavez has the style to win this one over 15 rounds. I'd favour Arguello in that scenario. Over 12 I could see Chavez pulling it off by decision.
Vic-JofreBRASIL
11-08-2011, 10:11 PM
Arguello by a whisker

All things considered and compared, Arguello is the smarter and more adaptative fighter here

Not sure about that......
Kid Bacon
11-08-2011, 10:19 PM
Not sure about that......

Sure? :D
Vic-JofreBRASIL
11-08-2011, 10:21 PM
Chavez was more complete and adaptable in my opinion.....
Zopilote
11-09-2011, 10:06 AM
At 130lbs, its a really tough one, but i would probably favor Arguello by a close decision.

At 135lbs, Chavez takes it IMO.
leverage
11-09-2011, 04:24 PM
Chavez beating rosario is one thing, but beating arguello is a different story. Arguello, while not the most athletically gifted boxer, was an absolute technician in the ring. Every punch that he landed hurt and he was a master counterpuncher able to land to the head and body with equal proficiency. This would spell trouble for chavez who would assume the role of the aggressor.

Though chavez was solid defensively he was no pernell whitaker and he would definitely get hit on the way in. Arguello, being the accurate, pinpoint puncher that he was would land shots which would be doubled in effect against and onrushing chavez, which would eventually result in a late round stoppage.
MAG1965
11-09-2011, 04:36 PM
Arguello would win but he would not stop Chavez. UD, but a close UD.
Bill Butcher
11-09-2011, 05:16 PM
A probably controversial close war that could go either way, the only guarantee is that it will be a brilliant fight by 2 of the best ever.
greynotsoold
11-09-2011, 05:34 PM
I am a huge fan of both fighters. I think that Chavez would stop Arguello, and I think that it would not be a real hard fight for him.
The reason I say this is the Arguello/Olivares fight. And I think that footwork would, in fact, be a huge factor. Chavez was much more mobile at 130 at would fight an in and out fight like he did against LaPorte, like Olivares did against Arguello. But Chavez wouldn't get tired and fold up. And Arguello needed room to punch inside, more than Chavez did, and that would give Chavez a big edge inside, where the exchanges would happen.