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dpw417
09-28-2008, 08:59 PM
WBA heavyweight champioship on the line. 15 rounds.

Raging B(_)LL
09-28-2008, 09:08 PM
Gerrie would probably take Firpo out before his questionable stamina became a factor, and since Firpo`s defence was almost non-existant it would just make it all the more easy for Gerrie to land that bionic right hand of his and put Firpos lights out.

Coetzee TKO5 Firpo

fists of fury
09-29-2008, 06:57 AM
I tend to agree. Firpo was big and tough, but no bigger than Coetzee, and Coetzee was a lot more refined.

I think it would be a fun fight with plenty of brawling action, but Coetzee is too polished for Firpo. Cotzee's stamina let him down in fights, but like RB said, the fight will probably be over before that comes into play too much.

Coetzee TKO Firpo between rounds 4-7.

Titan1
10-07-2011, 06:29 PM
Gerrie takes out Luis in the second round.The Bionic Right accomplishes.

SuzieQ49
10-07-2011, 08:39 PM
Firpo sucked. Gerrie would take him apart

red cobra
10-07-2011, 09:22 PM
Firpo wouldn't make it to the 2nd round. Coetzee would have found his chin in the first with the right like he did Spinks and Koranicki.

Jorodz
10-07-2011, 10:34 PM
Firpo sucked. Gerrie would take him apart

:lol:succinct and i agree.

choklab
10-08-2011, 07:16 PM
coetzee has the pedigree here that goes a long way. However the wild bull is a wild card. He got decked 6 times and still put prime dempsey through the ropes so hes a handfull.

janitor
10-08-2011, 07:47 PM
I am going to go against the consensus here.

Coetzee could be stopped and was not as consistent as he should have been.

I pick him to have one of his off nights against the unpredictable Firpo.

SEPv
10-09-2011, 02:41 PM
Coetzee by TKO
Firpo was very, very crude and unskilled..

janitor
10-09-2011, 03:09 PM
Coetzee by TKO
Firpo was very, very crude and unskilled..

Not as crude or unskilled as he looked.

He was a rough raw slugger of the South American type, but he could be sneaky and devious. He was a trap setter.

He did not just get lucky against Dempsey, he engineered that situation.

Russell
10-09-2011, 03:16 PM
Not as crude or unskilled as he looked.

He was a rough raw slugger of the South American type, but he could be sneaky and devious. He was a trap setter.

He did not just get lucky against Dempsey, he engineered that situation.

:huh:huh:huh

janitor
10-09-2011, 03:36 PM
:huh:huh:huh

He essentialy suckered dempsey. By going down on one knee and catching him when he rushed in.

Also, if you watch the Willard fight, he is prety sneaky with his feints.

A rough and tumble fighter, but not one without a few tricks up his sleeve.

TheGreatA
10-09-2011, 04:29 PM
Firpo could have been good if he were better schooled. Whoever his trainer was, he didn't do a good job with him. From the beginning of Firpo's US career, he was built towards a fight with Dempsey because he was a 220 pound heavyweight who could punch. I don't think they were really serious about his career, as long as they could make some money off him.

It is evident that he had some potential though. He had a big right hand and durability to make up for his lack of skill and defense. His tactics in the ring resembled a street fight more so than a boxing match. With more polishing, he could have been legitimately good but realistically he was just too easy to hit and outbox.

In Coetzee's case you had the big right hand but also the skill. Unfortunately he did not have the mentality to consistently perform at top level.

janitor
10-09-2011, 04:41 PM
Firpo could have been good if he were better schooled. Whoever his trainer was, he didn't do a good job with him. From the beginning of Firpo's US career, he was built towards a fight with Dempsey because he was a 220 pound heavyweight who could punch. I don't think they were really serious about his career, as long as they could make some money off him.

It is evident that he had some potential though. He had a big right hand and durability to make up for his lack of skill and defense. His tactics in the ring resembled a street fight more so than a boxing match. With more polishing, he could have been legitimately good but realistically he was just too easy to hit and outbox.


If he was as bad as you think, then Dempsey would have demolished him without breaking a sweat, and a past prime Willard would probably have been too much for him also.

TheGreatA
10-09-2011, 04:50 PM
If he was as bad as you think, then Dempsey would have demolished him without breaking a sweat, and a past prime Willard would probably have been too much for him also.

I didn't say he was bad but it's fairly obvious he had no real boxing schooling. He fought on brawling instincts and was actually pretty good at landing the right hand. He nailed Dempsey in the very first second of the fight and sent him to a blind rage, which led to Firpo taking a beating due to his lack of defense against Dempsey's onslaught. Firpo was a brawler though and landed some big right hands on a reckless Dempsey.

Dempsey would have beaten him with less effort had he fought him the way he fought Jess Willard for example, giving more respect to his power and looking for the chance to land the punches, instead of actively seeking a KO with each punch he threw while abandoning any type of defense.

janitor
10-09-2011, 04:51 PM
I didn't say he was bad but it's fairly obvious he had no real boxing schooling. He fought on brawling instincts and was actually pretty good at landing the right hand. He nailed Dempsey in the very first second of the fight and sent him to a blind rage, which led to Firpo taking a beating due to his lack of defense against Dempsey's onslaught. Firpo was a brawler though and landed some big right hands on a reckless Dempsey.

Dempsey would have beaten him with less effort had he fought him the way he fought Jess Willard for example, giving more respect to his power and looking for the chance to land the punches, instead of actively seeking a KO with each punch he threw while abandoning any type of defense.

Sure, but why didn't Carl Moriss have some of the same sucess as Firpo?

TheGreatA
10-09-2011, 04:54 PM
Sure, but why didn't Carl Moriss have some of the same sucess as Firpo?

He didn't do too bad in their first two fights.

janitor
10-09-2011, 05:31 PM
He didn't do too bad in their first two fights.

He did prety bad when Dempsey was approaching the article that Firpo fought.

TheGreatA
10-09-2011, 05:36 PM
He did prety bad when Dempsey was approaching the article that Firpo fought.

Morris was also approaching 35 years of age and insignificance in the heavyweight picture.

gregluland
10-09-2011, 08:35 PM
Morris was also approaching 35 years of age and insignificance in the heavyweight picture.
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gregluland
10-09-2011, 08:44 PM
Firpo could have been good if he were better schooled. Whoever his trainer was, he didn't do a good job with him. From the beginning of Firpo's US career, he was built towards a fight with Dempsey because he was a 220 pound heavyweight who could punch. I don't think they were really serious about his career, as long as they could make some money off him.

It is evident that he had some potential though. He had a big right hand and durability to make up for his lack of skill and defense. His tactics in the ring resembled a street fight more so than a boxing match. With more polishing, he could have been legitimately good but realistically he was just too easy to hit and outbox.

In Coetzee's case you had the big right hand but also the skill. Unfortunately he did not have the mentality to consistently perform at top level.
Firpo suckered Brennan onto an "Angel" bomb, it's brutal and on film, and Bill Brennan was out,...... stone cold......... No Gene Tunney, slightly chaotic, hittable but a huge puncher and quite dangerous, it only takes one single mistake and there are many who'd become Luis supper..................................yours truly, McG.