Renewed respect for Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[Ambition_Def]

I have to take my hat off for the man. No denying it.

This is the kind of fight he should have taken years ago. A young, hungry champion who is within the same age bracket. This is a truely dangerous fight.

It looks like Mayweather is finally coming around to his senses. Good for him. I for one am glad he did not take the fight with the 35 year old Shane Mosley. This fight with Hatton will mean signficantly more years from now.

[ChampionsForever]

I hate PBF but you cant deny he does face tough guys, well recently anyways.

[FlatNose]

Floyd has previously fought a lot of guys in and near their primes.Corrales was still undefeated when Floyd polished him off 6 years ago.Chavez, Castillio, Hernandez were all tough guys at the top of their games.Of course because Floyd is so good, and he seems like a classless egomaniac, he is held to a higher standard.But the little prick can fight, and Hatton will be painted cherry red.

[Thread Stealer]

Floyd has previously fought a lot of guys in and near their primes.Corrales was still undefeated when Floyd polished him off 6 years ago.Chavez, Castillio, Hernandez were all tough guys at the top of their games.Of course because Floyd is so good, and he seems like a classless egomaniac, he is held to a higher standard.But the little prick can fight, and Hatton will be painted cherry red.

Corrales, Chavez, Judah, Manfredy, and Castillo were prime (or very close to it), but I don't know about Hernandez. At least not Genaro. Granted, Genaro was considered the top 130 lb. fighter at the time, never lost @ that weight and was on the bottom end of the p4p charts (KO magazine had him @ 10 or 11, I'll have to check), but he was getting a little long in the tooth.

[ironchamp]

Floyd had no choice to take a dangerous fight! He was running out of Past thier prime, and shot fighters to face.

Thats a BS way of looking at it.

[the_what]

Props to Mayweather. Taking on challenges that a P4P King should take.

[Pimp C]

I have to take my hat off for the man. No denying it.

This is the kind of fight he should have taken years ago. A young, hungry champion who is within the same age bracket. This is a truely dangerous fight.

It looks like Mayweather is finally coming around to his senses. Good for him. I for one am glad he did not take the fight with the 35 year old Shane Mosley. This fight with Hatton will mean signficantly more years from now.
Good fair post!:good

[KO byBRIGGS]

Mayweather is proving himself more and more, hopefully we get to see a few more big fights from him before he hangs it up for good. It hink it was pretty obvious he would fight again and it seems a pretty sure thing he will again. It was a short lived retirement.

[Relentless]

this is what the p4p king should be doing, after this he should take on mosley and cotto, not the winner of their fight but both.

[Danny Ocean]

this is what the p4p king should be doing, after this he should take on mosley and cotto, not the winner of their fight but both.

so if cotto beat mosley you would still want him to take a 36year old fighter coming off a loss

wow the hate would be unreal

[BigReg]

this is what the p4p king should be doing, after this he should take on mosley and cotto, not the winner of their fight but both.

There would be no reason to fight Mosely if he lost. Being that Cotto would be Floyd's next logical opponent, a fight with Mosely wouldn't happen until Mosely would be about 37. Beating a 37 year old Mosely would prove nothing, especially if Floyd beats Cotto after Hatton.

[MacManJr.]

so if cotto beat mosley you would still want him to take a 36year old fighter coming off a loss

wow the hate would be unrealI was just about to say that.

[Relentless]

yeh i would like to see it, like marvin hagler faught hearns, leonard and duran, he could have chose the winner of hearns-leonard/duran but he decided to show what he is about.

just like i want cotto to fight mayweather and hatton and paul williams AND even margarito.

[Guru_Too_You]

There would be no reason to fight Mosely if he lost. Being that Cotto would be Floyd's next logical opponent, a fight with Mosely wouldn't happen until Mosely would be about 37. Beating a 37 year old Mosely would prove nothing, especially if Floyd beats Cotto after Hatton.

Good post.

Hatton then Cotto, then if he were to beat Cotto, he could really retire with the status that he craves, especially since Mosley and Cotto are squaring off to see who the better fighter is at the current juncture.

Hopefully during all of this, Williams and Cintron can meet ot unify, offering another bonafide opponent for Floyd.

[Relentless]

ok maybe not mosley if he loses but if he loses a great close fight,

as the p4p king floyd should fight anyone who is a threat to him, you as floyd fans should be encouraging him to do so, not worrying about how much he should make, what he makes has nothing to do with you unless ofcourse you get a cut, people say floyd shouldn't fight mosley because floyd isn't going to get a good payday, i say who gives a fuck?? let them worry about that, i dont care how much a fighter makes, i just wanna see a fight.

[Amsterdam]

I have to take my hat off for the man. No denying it.

This is the kind of fight he should have taken years ago. A young, hungry champion who is within the same age bracket. This is a truely dangerous fight.

It looks like Mayweather is finally coming around to his senses. Good for him. I for one am glad he did not take the fight with the 35 year old Shane Mosley. This fight with Hatton will mean signficantly more years from now.

Hatton is a good opponent for anyone, no doubt. I can't knock Floyd for taking Hatton.

But let's keep this into context, Floyd is selective for his legacy, he won't be fighting the top at 147, no way in hell, because they present factors that can give him a loss.

Hatton, even though an undefeated guy, a P4P guy, is at a styles disadvantage to Floyd and Floyd will have a relatively easy night.

So it's a good name, still keeps him at the number 1 P4P, but I'm not going out of context and neither are most people.

When he gets in there with Cotto, I'll give him the full credit he deserves, but that's not going to happen.

[Relentless]

Only the winner. What would he get outta fighting the loser??? That would put Sugar Shane at five losses.

imagine how floyd would look with these names on his record:

mosley
de la hoya
cotto
hatton
margarito
williams
cintron

he would have everbody who is anybody in his resume and he most probably would be considered greatest of all time.

[BewareofDawg]

Mosley would have been a much much much tougher fight. Hatton is a stylistical amusement park for Floyd. I say we lay off the sack sucking here.....Floyd knows he is going to eat Hattons lunch, but you bet your ass he wasn't so confident about Sugar Shane.

[Pimp C]

Hatton is a good opponent for anyone, no doubt. I can't knock Floyd for taking Hatton.

But let's keep this into context, Floyd is selective for his legacy, he won't be fighting the top at 147, no way in hell, because they present factors that can give him a loss.

Hatton, even though an undefeated guy, a P4P guy, is at a styles disadvantage to Floyd and Floyd will have a relatively easy night.

So it's a good name, still keeps him at the number 1 P4P, but I'm not going out of context and neither are most people.

When he gets in there with Cotto, I'll give him the full credit he deserves, but that's not going to happen.
Why wouldn't it? If PBF beats Hatton and Cotto beats Mosley it will be a mega money fight that PBF will be all over it.

[Pimp C]

imagine how floyd would look with these names on his record:

mosley
de la hoya
cotto
hatton
margarito
williams
cintron

he would have everbody who is anybody in his resume and he most probably would be considered greatest of all time.
Even with those names he wouldn't be considered GOAT. He would possibly be in the top 10 but even then most probably would disagree.

[Amsterdam]

Why wouldn't it? If PBF beats Hatton and Cotto beats Mosley it will be a mega money fight that PBF will be all over it.

Because, Mayweather has become a comfort zone fighter, that's well known and accepted. I'm not claiming he's not the best in the world, I'm claiming that he's the best and the world, but now very selective later in his career, this is fact.

[Amsterdam]

Even with those names he wouldn't be considered GOAT. He would possibly be in the top 10 but even then most probably would disagree.

Leave out Margarito, he's useless on anyone's resume.

But if he had Cotto, Mosely, Williams, Cintron(if Cintron keeps improving), Hatton and then two top 154 pound names, whether it'd be Spinks and another and then retiring at age 34-35 undefeated...

You'd have a damn good case of the GOAT. A definite top 5.

[Shpion]

He definetly deserves respect for taking on such a strong opponent as Hatton. The only thing remains to wish for is for him to change his style, at least from constant running to at least sprinting combined with fighting.

[Pimp C]

Leave out Margarito, he's useless on anyone's resume.

But if he had Cotto, Mosely, Williams, Cintron(if Cintron keeps improving), Hatton and then two top 154 pound names, whether it'd be Spinks and another and then retiring at age 34-35 undefeated...

You'd have a damn good case of the GOAT. A definite top 5.
:yep :good
You make good points.

[acb]

Good post.

Hatton then Cotto, then if he were to beat Cotto, he could really retire with the status that he craves, especially since Mosley and Cotto are squaring off to see who the better fighter is at the current juncture.

Hopefully during all of this, Williams and Cintron can meet ot unify, offering another bonafide opponent for Floyd.

Hatton, Cotto, and then Paul Williams and I will put a poster of him on my wall. :hey

[Ambition_Def]

Hatton is a good opponent for anyone, no doubt. I can't knock Floyd for taking Hatton.

But let's keep this into context, Floyd is selective for his legacy, he won't be fighting the top at 147, no way in hell, because they present factors that can give him a loss.

But here is the thing about that. I have never said that I believe Mayweather is a legitimate 147lber, and I scoff at the notion someone would consider him a top 154lber. He simply is not. He handpicked some guys to look good against and that is that. Just like Jones handpicked Ruiz from a pack of heavyweights that had potential to crush him.

Ricky Hatton is closer to Floyd's natural weight. This is the division Floyd should be in. Now if he is just fighting guys like DLH for the money, that is fine. Just don't call it a legacy fight.

I'll be honest with you. Even if he never faces a legitimate threat at 147 he can do well in the next couple years at 140. If this fight is at 147 then Floyd should at least fight Cotto next and then Williams or Cintron.

Hatton, even though an undefeated guy, a P4P guy, is at a styles disadvantage to Floyd and Floyd will have a relatively easy night.

I disagree. Hopkins, Ruiz and many others have shown how difficult it is to deal with a punch n' grab offensive. It isn't as easy to deal with as it looks. Hatton for his own part has fast hands too, so it is no guarantee that Floyd will always get off first.

So it's a good name, still keeps him at the number 1 P4P, but I'm not going out of context and neither are most people.

Thats fine, but I'm not gonna deny it. I consider myself an objective person, and the reason for me getting on the hater bandwagon years ago is that he wasn't fighting the guys he should have been fighting. Now he is. He is taking on an opponent that Roy Jones would never have. (Not literally, figuratively)

When he gets in there with Cotto, I'll give him the full credit he deserves, but that's not going to happen.

Cotto by all logic should be the next guy should Mayweather get by Hatton. If Mayweather plans on staying at 147 he needs to make some noise there to rightfully call himself the top 147lber. Because as of right now he isn't that guy.

[MacManJr.]

I'm sick of everybody saying Floyd should fight Shane because we all know after he beats Shane the haters will say Shane was washed up. I'll say this 1 last time too. He wanted to fight Shane last November before he fought Oscar. Shane made it clear he wasnt fighting again last year.

[Amsterdam]

I'm sick of everybody saying Floyd should fight Shane because we all know after he beats Shane the haters will say Shane was washed up. I'll say this 1 last time too. He wanted to fight Shane last November before he fought Oscar. Shane made it clear he wasnt fighting again last year.

It really doesn't matter what the haters think, it matters what the intelligent boxing fanbase and historical raters think.

Mosely gets more points as a win than Hatton for me, that's just how it works.

[acb]

Why wouldn't it? If PBF beats Hatton and Cotto beats Mosley it will be a mega money fight that PBF will be all over it.

If he beats Hatton and Cotto beats Mosely, he has to fight Cotto. This fight would be for the money and the legacy. I cant think of any other fight which would define his career like a fight against Cotto.

[Relentless]

I'm sick of everybody saying Floyd should fight Shane because we all know after he beats Shane the haters will say Shane was washed up. I'll say this 1 last time too. He wanted to fight Shane last November before he fought Oscar. Shane made it clear he wasnt fighting again last year.

that can be said about any fighter floyd faces, hatton was too small, margarito was never anything, cotto was hyped, that does not mean he shouldn't fight them.