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FLINT ISLAND
09-30-2008, 02:53 AM
David Haye is on a mission to fight the No 1 heavyweight in the division - Waldimir Klitschko.

There is no guarentees this fight will ever come off.

David Haye has yet to prove if he can truely compete with the World top heavyweights.

However if he can string a couple of good wins together starting with Monte Barret - a fight with Waldimir in 2009 will be pushed for and highly anticapeted.

Wald is a boring dodgy chinned - cautoious fighter.

However he has a imposing physical presence and power and was a world class amateur and now pro.

Haye has a average chin - dodgy stamina doubts from his past - very powerful - though up at heavyweight his power might be matched by and even exceeded by others.

If the fight comes off I see Haye with his intense ego looking for the early finish and this I believe is his best chance.

I think he can nail Wald early and have his moments.

However I think he will taste something heavy back also.

I see the fight progressing then into the middle rounds and Walds long reach and powerful right hand finding their range.

Wald might be guilty of some stinking performances where he has pawed with his jab for boring safety first fights.

But against Haye he know the danger will be there - which will force him to up his game.

There is always the punchers chance Haye can win because Wald is a robotic mechnically un natural fighter and a chinless wonder.

But I believe underneath David Haye is still the same fundamental fighter who lost to Carl Thompson - he is more experienced and wise now - but the same flaws are there the same weakenesses - the same defensive sloppyness and the same dodgy stamnia and chin isssues.

Just because he wanted to have changed and people think that he has - dosent mean he really has - I still see very much the same David Haye as before - in the pressure of a big fight - Haye will revert to type.


This is a big step up in level for Haye - its a daunting challenge.

Based on Wladimirs poorest peformances of when he has fought boring or come apart for stoppage losses I would go for Haye to do the same.

However I am thinking we are going to see the best Wladimir in this fight - a fighter who knows he has to be on the top of his game - a fighter who knows this is not a easy defence where he can just paw with his jab for 12 rounds - a fighter forced to fight and show his worth because he knows he is in with a dangerous opponnet. This will bring out the best in Wladimir as he will not want to get knocked out.

Wladimir went into the Ross Puirity fight thinking it was just another step towards the top.

Wladimir probaly went into the Corrie Saunders fight thinking it was a easy nights work - and was caught by surprise.

But against Haye he knows he will have to be at the top of his game.

I see Haye having his moments early - and shaking up and even dropping Wald.

I see Wald weathering the storm.

Finding his range and start to discourage Haye with heavy right hands flooring Haye at some point.

I see Haye coming aprart after the halfway stage.

Waldimir Klitschko TKO 8 David Haye.:deal

ishy
09-30-2008, 03:55 AM
No comment until Haye has a couple of fights at HW.

rooq
09-30-2008, 04:03 AM
underneath is one word

FLINT ISLAND
09-30-2008, 04:13 AM
No comment until Haye has a couple of fights at HW.

Of course I understand your point.

This is my prediction now.

However if the fight happened in say for example November 2009 my view on the fight could have changed by then as that is a long time and alot of different things could come to pass between now and then.

But right now my prediction is if the fight went through next year I would say

Wladimir TKO 8 David

FLINT ISLAND
09-30-2008, 05:22 AM
No comment until Haye has a couple of fights at HW.

For example - say Haye had his wish - and got to fight Wladimir straight away - Haye said he would take his chance immedialetly with no build up fights - you would not have the luxury then of seeing Haye in a couple of fights at HW.

Based on that - how things stand now.

Wladimir TKO 8 David

robpalmer135
09-30-2008, 06:00 AM
yeh until we see David at Heavyweight we cannot be sure.

When people look at Haye going up, i think they seriously under rate his acheivments at Cruiser, mainly because they do not rate the division. I personally think Cruiser is a much stronger division than H/W and that Mormeck is a tougher fight than most at heavy. I also think they under rate Bonin. He has only lost once, and that was a dubious 9th round TKO.

I also think Wlad is an easiar fight for haye than others. Haye is seriously powerful but some guys at heavy like Chagaev he will not be able to KO.

D-MAC
09-30-2008, 06:48 AM
As mentioned its too early to tell.

Barrett is faster and more mobile than most of the other HW's, so if Haye murders him with his own speed, gives him angles, makes Monte repeatedly miss, and then takes him out in the early or mid rounds then I think things are looking very good for Haye at HW.

Vlad's jab is definitely trouble for Haye (it negates the speed advantage to an extent), and we don't know how he will deal with it until he actually fights the Ukrainian (for there is no one else in the HW division that has a ramrod jab that is even close to its effectiveness).

I agree with Rob that Chagaev would also give Haye plenty of trouble.

robpalmer135
09-30-2008, 09:54 AM
As mentioned its too early to tell.

Barrett is faster and more mobile than most of the other HW's, so if Haye murders him with his own speed, gives him angles, makes Monte repeatedly miss, and then takes him out in the early or mid rounds then I think things are looking very good for Haye at HW.

Vlad's jab is definitely trouble for Haye (it negates the speed advantage to an extent), and we don't know how he will deal with it until he actually fights the Ukrainian (for there is no one else in the HW division that has a ramrod jab that is even close to its effectiveness).

I agree with Rob that Chagaev would also give Haye plenty of trouble.

yeh chagaev is a good boxer, south paw, sold chin. Haye would have to out box him.

LiamE
09-30-2008, 09:55 AM
Haye by KO within 4. Bet on it.

TFFP
09-30-2008, 09:58 AM
Wlad KO, being realistic.