How much credit does Calzaghe get for beating Jones?

[Diablo]

I dont think he will get much at all. In the same way Holmes win over Ali is never talked about and the same way Lewis's win over a shot Tyson is dismissed.

But Joe should be remembered for his dominance at his weight and his 4 sig wins.

Chris Eubank - may have been 33 but Joe was stepping up and lacked experience

Jeff Lacy - A confident ko artist that was expected to retire Calzaghe

Mikkel Kessler - Unified champ and considered the new dominant force at SMW

Bernard Hopkins - Old man? nah he was top 5 p4p and just beat Winky and Tarver

[surreal deal]

He doesnt deserve much,but its a fair trade off;big payday,but does little else for his record or legacy.
Im sure he can live with it though.

[Claypole]

Joe gets no credit for this, it's just one for the retirement fund. He should have fought Jones years ago.

[Diablo]

Joe gets no credit for this, it's just one for the retirement fund. He should have fought Jones years ago.

True but Calzaghe wasnt even on Jones radar until he beat Lacy. Its all very way saying he should have fought him and him etc. But it takes 2 to tango.

[BIG WORM]

he reckons roys in his prime

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[Boro chris]

he reckons roys in his prime

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I suspect he's lying.

[Claypole]

True but Calzaghe wasnt even on Jones radar until he beat Lacy. Its all very way saying he should have fought him and him etc. But it takes 2 to tango.Jones didn't need to fight Calaghe to secure his place in the history books. Joe might not have been "on the radar", but he would have been if had wanted to be.

[Fat Joe]

Not a lot

[unitas]

none. just some shame points for taking this fight.

to quote larry holmes: " he will go down in history as asshole B"

[Decebal]

It depends how well he performs on the night given Jones' level of performance, just as per usual...

[dwilson]

It depends on how good RJJ looks. RJJ is still a good fighter and would probably beat all the other men at 175 but he is ot the RJJ of old. Joe should come through with the win and it should be a good fight but he really needs to impress if he wants the fight to add towards his legacy andf not just be known as a money spinner.

The super middle weight and light heavy weight divisions are very poor at the moment so any opponent he could have chosen would have been ridiculed.

[Fat Joe]

RJJ is still a good fighter and would probably beat all the other men at 175

I don't think he would

[Undisputed P4P]

you calzaghe fans said the same thing before the hopkins fight, you said that you would only be satisifed if he knocks out bernard hopkins, now you use his controversial victory over a 43 year old bernard hopkins to say that he is the greatest of this generation. :lol:

[1stcontact]

I dont think he will get much credit especially if its a boring fight or worse still a draw,
I think more will depend on the the manner of the victory(thats if he wins of course)

[dwilson]

I don't think he would


The rest of the 175 division is a joke.

[draw99]

Zero credit.

Jones is shot. I think I'd have a chance against him :lol:

I wouldnt be surprised if Calzaghe calls out Ali next.

[FLINT ISLAND]

he dont care about the credit his recognition came when he unifed the super middleweight division his legacy is complete. this dosent have to be a hard fight - if Roy Jones is shot good for calzaghe. they splitting this purse 50/50 if it genrerates $25 million thats $12.5 million each - for a shot fighter thats great money and for Calzaghe thats great money for a easy fight. Why fight Kelly Pavlik when he can make easy money fighting a shot fighter

[TFFP]

Not that much, but no matter. Calzaghe's place as a top 100 ATG and his legacy as a British great is relatively secure.

[Diablo]

Jones didn't need to fight Calaghe to secure his place in the history books. Joe might not have been "on the radar", but he would have been if had wanted to be.
Should have would have could have...he did try. But maybe he should have left ****** to make it happen sooner.

Calzaghe calling out Ottke in 2003 - [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Calzaghes unification goal 2000 - [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Calzaghe calls out Jones Jr 2000 - [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[FLINT ISLAND]

the real question should be

how much credit does Roy get for beating Joe?

[JonOli]

RJJ is still a good fighter and would probably beat all the other men at 175.

How do you work that out when Tarver has beat him twice, and Johnson sent him to sleep. He hasn't beat decent, and live guy at 175 guy in something like 6 years.

[daz52]

the real question should be

how much credit does Roy get for beating Joe?

Alot of credit... He beats a guy who is undefeated, is old but you cant say isnt in his relative prime he is coming off his biggest victories (BHop, Kessler, Lacy) and he is winning when he is not at his best.

[si_19]

Depends how RJJ looks on the night, if he fights the same as he did against Tito and Joe outpoints him then he will get no credit

[davros]

nothing at all except maybe money. Its a match up which is about 5 years too late. I would rather have seen him in with pavlik, ofcourse this doesnt make good business sense. I would like to see joe fight on one more time,perhaps fight the winner of taver/dawson. that seems the logical path, if of course he gets by a faded jones. Which iam pretty sure that he will

[UndisputedUK]

Am I the only one here who can see Calzaghe losing this fight? :?

[davros]

it wouldnt be a surprise if joe did lose this fight. I mean rjj was a class above joe when he was in his prime. I just like the momentum joe has built up recently. Fighting more in the US and ok bhop is 40 odd and over the hill. But these fights give you something to look forward to. I have said this before but i would love to see joe come through and then fight pavlik and dawson at 170-175. The current few months are giving me a reason to get up in the morning haha, some great fights right up until christmas! its going to be a feast!