Bika "Bute hurt my body bad, he belong there with Calzague"

[TomaTos]

STUNNING REVELATION BY SAKIO BIKA !!!!!


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We got interests in the first two paragraphs ! Ill translate it for you guys !

“Lucian Bute had to go deeper in his ressource to beat Sakio Bika. Because after the first four rounds, Bute was not In the fight. Each time he was trying to jab, Bika hit him with a left hook. By the moment Bute begin to jab to the body instead of they head, he had success and could proceed with a left hook himself.

Bika reveal after the fight that he sous-estimate the SPEED of Bute. He had studied Bute on tape but never thought he was THAT good ! Bika camp was convincing they could KNOCK Bute out because they didn’t think he would RESIST to Bika power shot. Bika advice that Bute make him SUFFER BAD in the 11 round, with a BODY SHOT and that he was really in HURT in PAIN. From Bika and Bika camp, Lucian Bute is the SAME CALIBUR of JOE CALZAGUE, but not at the same level of MIKKEL KESSLER”.

Bika have fight both fighter now, so you cant really say that he is saying that on purpose, he really mean it. And I think he spar Kessler for is last two fights, so that saying something. Now, I know what Amsterdam and other will say…, but I like what Bika said and im please now that Bute is not so far away from these two super champion !

[WelshintheUS]

Kessler is a bum

[fatcity]

Nuthugger Express!:dead

[Gsand]

Bika and his camp have big mouthes

They often come out with total crap

I wouldnt pay too much attention to this

Bute is clearly good though as Bika is a tough enough one to lock out completely

[TomaTos]

We do have some question answer from Bika...

1) Bute hit harder than Calzague...
2) Bika think Bute is equal to Calzague...
3) Kessler beat them all...

I agree to all of that...:deal !

[djb2009]

bika's got kessler's dick up his arse thats why he says kessler is better than Calzaghe.

Calzaghe will beat him November if they fight, then if he ever fought bute he would do the same.

Kessler and Bute are good but they aint in Calzaghe's league. I hope these fights happen so all you muppets and pussies like tomatos see who the boss at SMW is.

[brooklyn1550]

Calzaghe beats both Kessler and Bika

[Amsterdam]

Calzaghe beats both Kessler and Bika

Had Calzaghe been properly prepared, he'd have stopped Bika. Bika had to hold excessively and foul just to stay in the fight because Joe was on his way to destroying him after the first two rounds when he landed good combinations in both that bothered Bika.

[brooklyn1550]

Calzaghe beats Bute too

[Amsterdam]

Calzaghe beats Bute too

And probably by stoppage as well, judging from his defencive holes, similiar to how I'd predict Joe to stop Taylor late on defencive holes and hesitation when hit.

You hit Calzaghe, he fires back, you hit guys like Kess and Bute, they try to get back into their rythym at the expense of being hesitant.

Small things like these become big factors when facing a skilled swarmer. However, watching a pretty good fighter in Bute showcase an immense amount of flaws, and being that Bute is a guy that can win a belt and be competitive or beat anyone from 160, it makes you appreciate Calzaghe's skills and ability, when he's light years ahead.

[jc]

Calzaghe is head and shoulders above all the guys at 168 right now.

Bute is quality though and I tink a future Bute - kessler match is very mouth watering indeed.

Also bika saying Kessler is top means nothing while he is still on the Palle payrole...

[TomaTos]

Had Calzaghe been properly prepared, he'd have stopped Bika. Bika had to hold excessively and foul just to stay in the fight because Joe was on his way to destroying him after the first two rounds when he landed good combinations in both that bothered Bika.

Why do people keep making excuse like "he doesnt prepare" or whatever..., JUST STOP..., stop with all those excuse... :deal !

Bika was Calzague tougher fight since Robin Reid... god damn that say everything ! Calzague destroy everybody since the fight with Reid..., and he had off night before...

[Harry]

Kessler is a bum

yeaa lets have a bum fight. kessler vs calzaghe! :nut.

[PATSYS]

No, he doesn't belong in there with JC until he grows some more reach. Presently he only has 27.5"

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JC would toy with him. :lol:

[Decebal]

Stephane Larouche, Bute's trainer:

“Kessler and Calzaghe, those two guys have been there for a little while. Bute is young and Calzaghe has a lot of experience, but to be honest with you, this upcoming year, 2007, will be the year for Lucian to get some experience, to get the kind of major experiences you get only in world title fights and I believe maybe early next year he could face Calzaghe and later next year he could face Kessler.”

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so after his first defence (January, against Mundine or Lacy) he could face Calzaghe in April/May, or maybe in January, skipping the first defence easier match-up if Calzaghe fights in September instead of November, and then Kessler in September.

Is that ambitious or what? ;)

[achillesthegreat]

At least they are admitting that Bute isn't ready, though I think he'd give both guys hell now. Butes simply a good fighter. The questions for him are intangiables and he seems to keep overcoming obstacles.

It appears they want him to get the IBF title, get a solid defence or two in and then go for the big boys.

[Decebal]

At least they are admitting that Bute isn't ready, though I think he'd give both guys hell now. Butes simply a good fighter. The questions for him are intangiables and he seems to keep overcoming obstacles.

It appears they want him to get the IBF title, get a solid defence or two in and then go for the big boys.

:good No one thinks Bute is ready yet...but Bute and his trainer think he might be ready in a short while...What is most important to me as a Bute fan is knowing that whenver he WILL indeed be ready, he will do his outmost to get into the ring with the best asap, on pretty much whatever contractual terms...As you would put it, achillesthegreat, it is important that he dares to be great!;)

[Zakman]

Bika is obviously shillling for Kessler. Perhaps it's because he is well paid to be a sparing partner for him. Ever think of that?? :patsch

[Decebal]

Bika is obviously shillling for Kessler. Perhaps it's because he is well paid to be a sparing partner for him. Ever think of that?? :patsch

I did, but not now...why the hell would he play Bute up...just because he was beaten by him? He could just pretend he was unlucky on the night or something...

To me these comments are about Bute, not Kessler...It seems however that both Bute and his trainers do INDEED think that Calzaghe could be an easier fight than Kessler, for Bute...now that Bute's trainer says so, it seems Bute wasn't joking when he picked Kessler against JC...but who knows, I could be wrong!:rasta

[Zakman]

I did, but not now...why the hell would he play Bute up...just because he was beaten by him? He could just pretend he was unlucky on the night or something...

To me these comments are about Bute, not Kessler...It seems however that both Bute and his trainers do INDEED think that Calzaghe could be an easier fight than Kessler, for Bute...now that Bute's trainer says so, it seems Bute wasn't joking when he picked Kessler against JC...but who knows, I could be wrong!:rasta

Well, maybe - but it's also a way to subtly dis Calzaghe, which Bika has also done directly before - something which I think springs directly from his alliance with the Kessler camp. It's entirely possible that he's trying to do both - compliment Bute, while at the same time diminishing Calzaghe. In fact, I think that is EXACTLY the intention.

[Decebal]

Well, maybe - but it's also a way to subtly dis Calzaghe, which Bika has also done directly before - something which I think springs directly from his alliance with the Kessler camp. It's entirely possible that he's trying to do both - compliment Bute, while at the same time diminishing Calzaghe. In fact, I think that is EXACTLY the intention.

I think you are right...I have felt that Bika was taking too much of a dislike for JC and too much of a liking for Kessler when he started being the latter's sparring partner...something smelt fishy...screw Bika, though...this is about Bute now...and as Bika says...a Bute body-shot should not be underestimated...

I'm so pissed off with this site crashing...I've started so many decent (!!) threads about Bute that are going to be lost forever...and most of the comments people have not had a chance to digest...:|

[BigBlue]

Bute is very good. I think Calzaghe is also very good but overrated. JC is little faster than Bute but has tendancy to slap instead of punching. JC also had the chance of getting few gift stoppage win. Kessler is better than both but might have problems with southpaw style. Hope will see them fight one another....although I doubt it.....

[Maxime]

No, he doesn't belong in there with JC until he grows some more reach. Presently he only has 27.5"

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JC would toy with him. :lol:

That's his arm lenght. :tong

[Maxime]

Like I said in other topics.

Bute passed the test and is no longer a prospect. He is now a contender on his way to fighting for a world title.

If he wins he should make a few title defenses against credible opponent to have more experience at the world class level.

Then at the end of 2008 he might be ready to take on the next level (Kessler-Calzaghe).

Maxime,

[Decebal]

Like I said in other topics.

Bute passed the test and is no longer a prospect. He is now a contender on his way to fighting for a world title.

If he wins he should make a few title defenses against credible opponent to have more experience at the world class level.

Then at the end of 2008 he might be ready to take on the next level (Kessler-Calzaghe).

Maxime,

:good

people forget that Bute will not go into the ring too early against anyone...when he goes into the ring, he'll go because he has a good chance of winning!

[deram]

Bika is obviously shillling for Kessler. Perhaps it's because he is well paid to be a sparing partner for him. Ever think of that?? :patsch

Hmmm.... I know JC fans need to find some reason, other than Bika actually meaning it, but ... nah.

Bika sparred Kessler som time ago and they went about 30 rounds, he then went 12 rounds with Calzaghe and 11 with Bute.

The key point is that he got much much more for meeting Calzaghe and Bute than he did for sparring Kessler briefly. So if money is the reason then he should be praisingCalzaghe.

Also he has never actually lost to Kessler officially so for personal pride he could say that ok he did loose to Calzaghe, but he would still beat Kessler. Now he is on his own free will saying that he actually thinks Kessler is on another level the the other two. Even more convincing because Kessler is the only one he doesn't HAVE TO admit he would loose to.

[Decebal]

Hmmm.... I know JC fans need to find some reason, other than Bika actually meaning it, but ... nah.

Bika sparred Kessler som time ago and they went about 30 rounds, he then went 12 rounds with Calzaghe and 11 with Bute.

The key point is that he got much much more for meeting Calzaghe and Bute than he did for sparring Kessler briefly. So if money is the reason then he should be praisingCalzaghe.

Also he has never actually lost to Kessler officially so for personal pride he could say that ok he did loose to Calzaghe, but he would still beat Kessler. Now he is on his own free will saying that he actually thinks Kessler is on another level the the other two. Even more convincing because Kessler is the only one he doesn't HAVE TO admit he would loose to.

:good this is also true!

[van the man]

Hmmm.... I know JC fans need to find some reason, other than Bika actually meaning it, but ... nah.

Bika sparred Kessler som time ago and they went about 30 rounds, he then went 12 rounds with Calzaghe and 11 with Bute.

The key point is that he got much much more for meeting Calzaghe and Bute than he did for sparring Kessler briefly. So if money is the reason then he should be praisingCalzaghe.

Also he has never actually lost to Kessler officially so for personal pride he could say that ok he did loose to Calzaghe, but he would still beat Kessler. Now he is on his own free will saying that he actually thinks Kessler is on another level the the other two. Even more convincing because Kessler is the only one he doesn't HAVE TO admit he would loose to.

:good -and if he were trying to get in the picture to a kesslerfight
wouldnt it be more effective for him to claime kessler had nothing
he couldnt deal with!? and that he would beat him up?
the guy loost to jc so it would make more sence if he said that jc were in a league of his own?!

[boxfan99]

bika's got kessler's dick up his arse thats why he says kessler is better than Calzaghe.

Calzaghe will beat him November if they fight, then if he ever fought bute he would do the same.

Kessler and Bute are good but they aint in Calzaghe's league. I hope these fights happen so all you muppets and pussies like tomatos see who the boss at SMW is.

Well, then I guess, Bute and Beyer also have Kesslers dick up their arse, because they've both stated that they believe Kessler is better than Calzaghe.:lol:

[van the man]

Well, then I guess, Bute and Beyer also have Kesslers dick up their arse, because they've both stated that they believe Kessler is better than Calzaghe.:lol:

it must have a special flawor since they go there in groups:lol:

[boxfan99]

it must have a special flawor since they go there in groups:lol:

It looks like it.:lol: And by the way you can add Butes trainer and Mundine to the list.:D

[deram]

It looks like it.:lol: And by the way you can add Butes trainer and Mundine to the list.:D

In other words, pretty much everyone that knows what they are talking about.

That doesn't mean to say that a lot of people will not think Calzxaghe is better out of patriotism, "he beat my favorite fighter" or "I have seen Calzaghe more times" or "Wow, did he beat Lacy". Calzaghe as we know still have a lot of people (that haven't actually fought either of them) beleive he is the better one.

[New Wind]

I have to agree with deram, surprisingly, lol.

It does seem a bit funny that the guys who have been in the ring with Kessler all seem to praise him..

I hear he's a nice guy, Kessler, but not that nice, surely.

If Bika says Kessler is the better man, it doesn't actually mean that he will beat JC, does it?
All it means is for Bika, Kessler's style is worse of the three guys in question (MK, LB and JC).

What the outcome will be when MK and JC go at it (if) is another matter entirely.
I agree with the post that said that Bika's style was better suited for JC, in that he holds and fights dirty.Bute and Kessler, I agree, tend to rely too much on getting in the rhythm with their thing, whice, when they are allowed, works wonderfully for both of them.
We have seen Bute being disturbed, but not Kessler - yet.
Does that mean Kessler is better than JC and will beat Bute also? Not necessarily, no. It might, but we don't know how Kessler will react to being Calzaghed like a school of hering in pirahna filled waters (just made that one up, I like it, hehe - I'm sure ya'll get the picture).
However, most of us (yours truely included) tend to hold it as a given fact that Kessler actually will get swarmed. We don't really know if JC is capeable of getting to Kessler, do we?

So:
Is JC able to swarm Kessler?
Is Kessler able to avoid getting swarmed? and if not -
How will Kessler react to getting the Manfredo treatment?

Also,
Is JC able to fend off Kessler's jab? - and if not -
How will Joe react to getting his face bashed in, by those leathal combos?
Will he:
Lose his head and start to take chances? or,
compose himself and change his tactics?

We don't really know, do we?

I for one would just love to find out:-)

As for Bute...
I have always been a great fan of Bute's, but to call the man a genuine contender on the basis of beating Bika is unreasonable.
He has a ways to go yet, but to call himsolf a contender he will have to learn that with a defence like his, Kessler, mundine, JC and even Beyer will destroy him.
He is learning a lot tho. Everytime he has to go the distance, he staps a little further away from his image as a KO artist. Maybe that will prompt him to work on other things, such as defence.

I would love to see him against a guy like Breamer..
Wihout defence, Bute will get murdered by Jürgen, I think.
Thus, a fight like that would be a good chin indicator for Lucian.

[deram]

I have to agree with deram, surprisingly, lol.

It does seem a bit funny that the guys who have been in the ring with Kessler all seem to praise him..

I hear he's a nice guy, Kessler, but not that nice, surely.

If Bika says Kessler is the better man, it doesn't actually mean that he will beat JC, does it?
All it means is for Bika, Kessler's style is worse of the three guys in question (MK, LB and JC).

What the outcome will be when MK and JC go at it (if) is another matter entirely.
I agree with the post that said that Bika's style was better suited for JC, in that he holds and fights dirty.Bute and Kessler, I agree, tend to rely too much on getting in the rhythm with their thing, whice, when they are allowed, works wonderfully for both of them.
We have seen Bute being disturbed, but not Kessler - yet.
Does that mean Kessler is better than JC and will beat Bute also? Not necessarily, no. It might, but we don't know how Kessler will react to being Calzaghed like a school of hering in pirahna filled waters (just made that one up, I like it, hehe - I'm sure ya'll get the picture).
However, most of us (yours truely included) tend to hold it as a given fact that Kessler actually will get swarmed. We don't really know if JC is capeable of getting to Kessler, do we?

So:
Is JC able to swarm Kessler?
Is Kessler able to avoid getting swarmed? and if not -
How will Kessler react to getting the Manfredo treatment?

Also,
Is JC able to fend off Kessler's jab? - and if not -
How will Joe react to getting his face bashed in, by those leathal combos?
Will he:
Lose his head and start to take chances? or,
compose himself and change his tactics?

We don't really know, do we?

I for one would just love to find out:-)

As for Bute...
I have always been a great fan of Bute's, but to call the man a genuine contender on the basis of beating Bika is unreasonable.
He has a ways to go yet, but to call himsolf a contender he will have to learn that with a defence like his, Kessler, mundine, JC and even Beyer will destroy him.
He is learning a lot tho. Everytime he has to go the distance, he staps a little further away from his image as a KO artist. Maybe that will prompt him to work on other things, such as defence.

I would love to see him against a guy like Breamer..
Wihout defence, Bute will get murdered by Jürgen, I think.
Thus, a fight like that would be a good chin indicator for Lucian.

I think most people will agree with that. Just take out the bit about Beyer. It may or may not be right, but someone is bound to make a big deal out of somethign that is really immaterial to your argument. So I would take it out and improve chances that the discussion stays on track.

[limi_7]

Bika is not in a position to claim anything at all. Calzaghe destroyed Bika and every opponent he had in front of him til today. So all calzaghe haters, stop hating and accept the reality. Nobody can beat calzaghe!!! By the way, if calzaghe fought bums like most of you claim, find a boxer who has his record ahah you can't cause even bums can claim a victory. Calzaghe is a Terminator vs a human being and he has the speed of the advanced shape changing cyborg.
:bbb

[PH|LLA]

Bute was putting bodyshots in the bank from the very beginning and I can't believe Atlas was totally blind to that. It was obvious that they were gonna have a huge effect on Bika towards the end and they did.

Bute has a very nice left uppercut to the body.

Like I mentioned before the fight I think his main disadvantage is a slight lack of power, but he is consistant and very fast both with his hands and on his feet so he makes up for it.

[satyriion]

How come Froch prefers to fight Calzaghe. because he says he has a better chance of winning.

Could you Calzaghe boys come up with a SMW that would rather face Kessler than Calzaghe.

For now it seems Bute, Bika, Froch, Andrade and some other guys all says they would rather face Calzaghe. Ah - They are part of a conspiracy to talk joe down. Lying cunts without honour or honesty.

Do you Calzaghe guys think they are all lying or getting a fat check from palle ? Do you guys always inflict such libel against people who answer an honest question.

Do you rate their understanding of their opponents and their own ablility, so low ?

Which SMW past or present do you know of who has said in public that he would rather face Kessler than Calzaghe.

Why is CAlzaghe talking about Kessler as The undisputed #2. " We are head and shoulders above the rest." Is that not an indication that an unanimous opinion among all champs and contenders in SMW including the Bookies says Kessler is the BEST.

The guy is in his own legue to most SMW's, even himself.

[satyriion]

when Calzaghe has been beaten, I have a feeling that Kessler will have big problems getting good matchups.

[New Wind]

Well...
While I agree that Kessler is the most bestest and mostest handsomest fighter in the world, I can't help but arguing that the reason no fighter at SMW says he would rather fight Kessler than JC, might also have something to do with thte recognition one gains from beating JC as opposed to beating Kessler.

For any fighter from 160-175, both Kessler and JC are enormously risky fights.
Thus, anyone in their right mind would go for JC, who might beat them, but who will also yield the greastest reward for them, should they manage to beat the Dragon.

That's not the same as Kessler being recognized in the boxer community, if it's at all possible to speak of one such, as a better fighter than JC.
He might be, but the case might also be as described above.

ps: I have yet to hear a fighter who says he wouldn't fight Kessler.
Well.. chanet, but I mean.. a fighter.

I don't think guys like Taylor, bhop, inkin, Bute, (winky), would mind fighting Mikkel, if the VW were a little more known.

As it stands, JC would also have rather fought Taylor or Bhop than Kessler. Is he scared? Of course he isn't! He just wants the biggest check for the least risk, combined with the most recognition.

Beating Kessler will do way less for JC than beating JC would do for VW's resumé.

...and I am Danish, and vice president of the Kessler Nuthugger Clan (Rt hon. Deram is the pres, of course)

Bare så jeg ikke skal høre en masse lort fra alle I nubes som kommer og går hver gang nogen har vundet en kamp i en vægtklasse der ligger i nærheden a Kesslers, for det gider jeg ikke høre på:.-)

I'm not translating the Danish part, but don't worry, it wasn't about the fight or the fighters:-)

[Decebal]

I still don't understand why Joe didn't fight Froch instead of Bika or Manfredo).

That is a good question...not hard to answer...Froch was supposed to have called out for him, but couldn't he swallow the ****** demands:-(...or...could Joe have wanted a higher profile fight to open doors for him in the States:yep ?

[satyriion]

new wind. Thats Bullshit. The only impressive fight I have seen recently with Cafaggi is the Lacy one. And Lacy is a primitive puncher. Not a boxer. The Bika and Manfredo fights were lowquality. Yeah Calzague can't motivate himself. Fights at his opponents level and all sort of shittey excuses for not impressing anyone with alleged god like boxingqualities. The Bika fight showed how lousy he can be at times. And all of you seem to ignore all these signs of weakness in him, using the man's pathetic explanations. Lack of motivation. Fuck that, it lack of competency and weak hands.
Compared to a very serious, extremely focused and motivated Kessler, who has lost but a few rounds in his whole of his carreer, I dont think he has a chinamans chance, to be honest. Kessler has all the advantages including age. When you hype calzaghe, what superopponents are you refferring to
?

[sonny73]

Sounds like Calzaghe will be lucky to get out alive against Kessler when they fight,if Calzaghe manages to get to the last bell or amazingly, actually wins the fight then he will have beaten an absolute monster and will deserve the title of p4p number 1

[Guru_Too_You]

I find it hard to believe that so many of you quickly dismiss a professional boxer's opinion, especially considering he's been in the ring with the three fighters being discussed.

I mean, I know we learn so much more just by watching right?

:patsch

[jc]

If Bika is such an expert on Joe Calzaghe maybe he should have tried to win more rounds against him...:patsch

[Decebal]

If Bika is such an expert on Joe Calzaghe maybe he should have tried to win more rounds against him...:patsch

Bika certainly did not underachieve against Joe, did he?

[radab]

bump

[Brickhaus]

Sweetness Allan Green would own that china chinned fraud.

[EpsilonAxis]

bika's got kessler's dick up his arse thats why he says kessler is better than Calzaghe.

Calzaghe will beat him November if they fight, then if he ever fought bute he would do the same.

Kessler and Bute are good but they aint in Calzaghe's league. I hope these fights happen so all you muppets and pussies like tomatos see who the boss at SMW is.

Kessler was pretty damn close. He gave Calzaghe a hell of a fight.

[radab]

Kessler was pretty damn close. He gave Calzaghe a hell of a fight.



Yeah. Bika and Kessler were two of Joe's toughest fights. I'd love to see them fight each other

[Little Pea]

Sweetness Allan Green would own that china chinned fraud.

Dear expert,

WHo's china chin?

Thanks.

[dhralf]

Dear expert,

WHo's china chin?

Thanks.

He's joking, he try to lure Fagito in this thread.

Right Brickhaus?

[DaveyScan]

This could be Alan Green... only him and his 8 fans think he's got a better chin than anyone else.

[olyalex]

He's joking, he try to lure Fagito in this thread.

Right Brickhaus?

Yes he is,Bika would KO Allenn Green :lol: Fagito, you didn't make any hating threads on Bute today.Wake up!

[dhralf]

This could be Alan Green... only him and his 8 fans think he's got a better chin than anyone else.

:lol:

[radab]

You lot stop pickin on my bro or we'll come and beat the living shit outta all a ya punks :fire

[doubleplaidinum]

wait, he's of the same caliber of JC, but not at the same level of mikkel kessler... how does that make sense?

[laffie]

wait, he's of the same caliber of JC, but not at the same level of mikkel kessler... how does that make sense?


That's a 2007 thread.

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FINITO and his boyfriend on a date.

[olyalex]

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FINITO and his boyfriend on a date.

:rofl:rofl:rofl