Just rewatched Floyd vs Gatti!!! He can't...

[jlrivera81]

do to Hatton or Cotto what he did to Gatti.

First, I'd like to say I'm a huge fan of Cotto. I'm not hugely impressed by Hatton.

Contrary to what most Floyd fans would like to think, there is no way in hell that Floyd gives to any of these 2 fighters the way he did Gatti.

Here are some reasons.

If you watched the fight carefully, you will have noticed....

1) Gatti was incredibly slow
2) He could not cut off the ring to save his life. He had absolutely no bounce in his step and mostly stepped to the right with his left hand down.
3) He kept his left hand down the entire fight, which ultimately led to being caught by 1000 right hands.
4) He was not willing to press the action and engage.

Now, most Floyd fans, or moreso Cotto haters have this incredible misconception that Cotto is some super slow fighter who couldn't catch a turtle. Any true unbiased boxing fan can easily see that Cotto makes up for his lack of footspeed with more than average hand speed. More importantly, Cotto probably cuts off the ring better than anyone else in the game right now. He ALWAYS gets his opponents where he wants them despite their so called speed advantages. With that said, Cotto is superior to Gatti in every speed category there is, whether it be hand or footspeed, not to mention his ability to cut off the ring once again. Also, while Cotto has been known to not have the best defense, his defense is still far superior to Gatti's defense. Here's the biggest reason I say this. What boxer is dumb enough to stand in front of floyd within punching distance with his hands down. Gatti did this the entire fight knowing how fast Floyd's hands are. You will never see Cotto in his opponents face with his hands down. If you've watched Cotto's fights, you will notice that his defense isnt really all that bad, he just has been caught in exchanges mostly. But again, his defense is miles above the defense Gatti showed in that fight. The most important aspect is Gatti's unwllingness to engage. I know I dont need to go into detail here, but we all know Cotto will do nothing but engage. Cotto is one of the best today at being effectively aggressive, which is key to defeating a fighter like Floyd.

While I do not believe Hatton is as good as Cotto, I do believe he too will make a much better showing than Gatti did. Hatton has great footspeed and quick hands. He does very well and bouncing in and out of punching distance when he fights. His problem is that rather than continuing exchanges, he has lately been holding a great deal. If he lets his hands go more, his style would much better IMO. Hatton is also more willing to engage his opponents. Once again, it's not the best type of engaging, due to the excessive holding, but it's a lot more than Gatti tried. But b/c Hatton does like to hold on the inside, this may benefit him b/c he may be able to connect going inside and before Mayweather can counter, he will be holding him. Like Cotto, Hatton doesnt have the best defense, but he rarely is seen with his hands down, especially when he lunges in.

In the end, I do not think Hatton will beat Mayweather, but I do think he will put up a much better fight than Gatti did. I do believe Cotto can beat mayweather b/c he has the overall strength and skillset to get on the inside.

What do you think??

[josak]

Gatti has always had shoddy defense, so what Mayweather did to him may look impressive, but it really wasn't. And I think Hatton has a better chance of beating Mayweather than Cotto, who is simply too slow.

[cdub1012]

heres the thing almost every body out has more power an some more speed(only mosley come to mind) an better chins etc but none of tht matter... all those attribute go out the window when u fight mayweather... why... because those things only matter when u engage... an PBF only runs the whole round... throw a few right hands then feint with the left... for any other fighter if he were to do this he would lose the fight... but for some reason when mayweather does this like he does in every fight except maby a few he wins... ... so i feel if PBF fights hatton or cotto he will run an point his way to another boring victory... it sux but its pretty much the truth

[Druid]

Gatti has always had shoddy defense, so what Mayweather did to him may look impressive, but it really wasn't. And I think Hatton has a better chance of beating Mayweather than Cotto, who is simply too slow.

Cotto is not slow at all. He has underrated hand speed and does come forward but don;t confuse that with slowness.

[brooklyn1550]

You're right...Cotto and Hatton wouldn't get Gatti'd. They have better defense, they are more effective pressure fighters, and they have a lot more in the tank than Gatti did.

[Druid]

You're right...Cotto and Hatton wouldn't get Gatti'd. They have better defense, they are more effective pressure fighters, and they have a lot more in the tank than Gatti did.


Gatti was too small anyway

[jlrivera81]

i dont think mayweather could run from Cotto all night, who is NOT TOO SLOW. Cotto would cut the ring off and punish to all parts of his body, his arms, his shoulders, everywhere.

[jlrivera81]

Let's also not forget how susceptible floyd was to Oscar's jab all night when they fought. With that said, we all know that Hatton has no jab at all, and Cotto has a monster jab as was seen in the Judah fight. I think a good jab and effective aggressiveness are the best things you can do against mayweather.

[Toopretty]

Hatton has worse defense then gatti. He keeps both gloves low well under the chin. Hatton is open to every punch body punch whatever. His aggression and the way he presses saves his ass. If hatton stops and trys to box at any point you will see who has no defense. Cotto keeps a high guard and he jabs. Hatton bounces around the ring with little to no defense. We will see, truth will come out. All floyd fans have no doubt. Just waiting for the bullshit to clear.

[Lampley]

i dont think mayweather could run from Cotto all night, who is NOT TOO SLOW. Cotto would cut the ring off and punish to all parts of his body, his arms, his shoulders, everywhere.

The difference in footspeed is the biggest challenge Cotto would face. A circling Floyd would be extremely difficult for him to deal with.

Overall, though, I agree that Cotto and Williams are the two guys with the best shot to beat Floyd.

[Rock0052]

Gatti's team had a terrible gameplan in that fight. Not that it would've made much of a difference, but it sure didn't help matters- Gatti's a brawler who tried to be something he wasn't in that fight, and that's one reason it was THAT lopsided.

He'd have been better off being the balls to the wall fighter he usually was. Even if he didn't win, he could've got some more shots in and made a better showing for himself.

[codeman99998]

That guy cdub is OBVIOUSLY an alias for that other guy who... always uses... too many ellipses... and never.... bothers to use punctuation...

Anyways, yes you are right Cotto and Hatton are better than Gatti. I do like to remember the looks on their faces, however, when they saw what Mayweather was doing to Gatti. It was priceless.

[younghov2k4]

im only speaking about Hatton here but Floyd can go off on him in spurts like he did against Gatti. i know because Floyd was starting to do that against Delahoya in the later rounds of their fight.

like ive been saying, Hatton is gonna give Floyd opportunities all day to counter and make Hatton feel like he cant do shit. it will get to the point where Hatton wont know what else to do and just stand there for Floyd to work on him. look at Oscar and Baldo in the later rounds to see what i mean.

Cotto is a different story though. he's alot stronger than Hatton and throws more efficiant punches. i see Floyd having a hard time against Cotto. he still wins though.

[jlrivera81]

Cotto definitely gives any welterweight a dificult time b/c of his pure relentlessness.

[Relentless]

toopretty what the hell are you talking about???

you say hatton has no defense because he keeps his hand low below his chin and then you say his body is open for attack, if his hands are below his chin aren't they covering his body?

[grayggr]

do to Hatton or Cotto what he did to Gatti.

First, I'd like to say I'm a huge fan of Cotto. I'm not hugely impressed by Hatton.

Contrary to what most Floyd fans would like to think, there is no way in hell that Floyd gives to any of these 2 fighters the way he did Gatti.

Here are some reasons.

If you watched the fight carefully, you will have noticed....

1) Gatti was incredibly slow
2) He could not cut off the ring to save his life. He had absolutely no bounce in his step and mostly stepped to the right with his left hand down.
3) He kept his left hand down the entire fight, which ultimately led to being caught by 1000 right hands.
4) He was not willing to press the action and engage.

Now, most Floyd fans, or moreso Cotto haters have this incredible misconception that Cotto is some super slow fighter who couldn't catch a turtle. Any true unbiased boxing fan can easily see that Cotto makes up for his lack of footspeed with more than average hand speed. More importantly, Cotto probably cuts off the ring better than anyone else in the game right now. He ALWAYS gets his opponents where he wants them despite their so called speed advantages. With that said, Cotto is superior to Gatti in every speed category there is, whether it be hand or footspeed, not to mention his ability to cut off the ring once again. Also, while Cotto has been known to not have the best defense, his defense is still far superior to Gatti's defense. Here's the biggest reason I say this. What boxer is dumb enough to stand in front of floyd within punching distance with his hands down. Gatti did this the entire fight knowing how fast Floyd's hands are. You will never see Cotto in his opponents face with his hands down. If you've watched Cotto's fights, you will notice that his defense isnt really all that bad, he just has been caught in exchanges mostly. But again, his defense is miles above the defense Gatti showed in that fight. The most important aspect is Gatti's unwllingness to engage. I know I dont need to go into detail here, but we all know Cotto will do nothing but engage. Cotto is one of the best today at being effectively aggressive, which is key to defeating a fighter like Floyd.

While I do not believe Hatton is as good as Cotto, I do believe he too will make a much better showing than Gatti did. Hatton has great footspeed and quick hands. He does very well and bouncing in and out of punching distance when he fights. His problem is that rather than continuing exchanges, he has lately been holding a great deal. If he lets his hands go more, his style would much better IMO. Hatton is also more willing to engage his opponents. Once again, it's not the best type of engaging, due to the excessive holding, but it's a lot more than Gatti tried. But b/c Hatton does like to hold on the inside, this may benefit him b/c he may be able to connect going inside and before Mayweather can counter, he will be holding him. Like Cotto, Hatton doesnt have the best defense, but he rarely is seen with his hands down, especially when he lunges in.

In the end, I do not think Hatton will beat Mayweather, but I do think he will put up a much better fight than Gatti did. I do believe Cotto can beat mayweather b/c he has the overall strength and skillset to get on the inside.

What do you think??

A very agreeable post. :good

[grayggr]

Hatton has worse defense then gatti. He keeps both gloves low well under the chin. Hatton is open to every punch body punch whatever. His aggression and the way he presses saves his ass. If hatton stops and trys to box at any point you will see who has no defense. Cotto keeps a high guard and he jabs. Hatton bounces around the ring with little to no defense. We will see, truth will come out. All floyd fans have no doubt. Just waiting for the bullshit to clear.

Hatton's defence is getting inside and clinching, then firing off to the body with the hooks, providing opening then to the head with uppercuts or that sweet left to the head he throws. Hatton cuts the distance down and gets in close precisely so he doesn't get picked off at distance due to his short reach. It's a form of defence different to having a high guard.

[josak]

Hatton actually has pretty good defense. It's pretty subtle, but if you notice he weaves his head and body a bit to slip punches and counter/move inside. He's got a lot of skills.

[jlrivera81]

People confuse defense sometimes with only keeping your hands up or blocking punches and tend to forget it also includes weaving and steping in and out of punches. I believe hatton's defense is the latter.

[warrior85]

gatti knew he was goin to lose,watch his expression on the way to the ring,he didnt believe he cud win(sadly)the day b4 the fight he asked ricky hatton how would he fight mayweather?! he had no confidence,hatton&cotto wud be the exact opposite they'd go in fully expecting to win by any means neccasarry,not many people are but im going for hatton to pull off the upset in december

[jlrivera81]

i would love to see mayweather lose. i dont think hatton will be the one to beat him, but i'd love to see it happen.