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Sweet Scientist
08-01-2007, 11:56 PM
Whoever Mayweather fights, people piss on him for fighting. I'm not a Floyd fan, but to call Floyd out on ducking is just bullshit now.

Only in your fanboy dreams does a fight with Mosely make more sense. No disrespect for Mosely, but he was one fight away from obscurity a year ago when he beat on a near-finished Vargas. Just because he's fast, that's enough to justify being more of a threat to the P4P?

Cotto's resume is no better than Hatton and frankly he's only being glorified because he beat up on Zab Judah, who even got schooled by Baldomir. Not only is it not any better as matchup, but Mayweather-Cotto is also a shit fight in terms of public intrerest and money. It's not as good for the sport
bottom line.

So as much as I don't like Floyd, give the P4P man a break. 2 years ago when the world wanted Mayweather-Hatton more than anything, he was a pussy for taking any other fight. Then he goes through Judah, the guy who beat Judah, and stepped up for De la Hoya. Now he's going back for the unfinished business and he's ducking again. I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something. Who else should he fight?

WhataRock
08-02-2007, 12:02 AM
PBF-Hatton is a proper superfight.
It is actually two prime fighters, fighting at a weight they both will be strong at.
DLH-PBF was an old semi-retired boxer fighting outside his prime weight fighting prime but smaller man way outside his prime weight. There were a lot of "Yeah buts" after that fight, I dont see this happening as much in regards to PBF-Hatton because they're two guys at their best. Somebodys 0 must go.

rr94
08-02-2007, 12:03 AM
Yeah...i feel that.

Winner sets up big fight with Mosely/Cotto winner anyways.

I mean everyone can Hate on Floyd for "ducking" Hatton, Mosely, Cotto, and Margarito...as the Haters would have said a month ago...

But now he's fighting Hatton, potentially sets up winner of Cotto/Mosely in the Spring, and Margarito in his last two fights was nothing to write home about and is now out of the picture for one of Floyd's last fights.

He wins Hatton, fights Mosely/Cotto winner everyone is going to go say "what about Paul Williams?" I'm sorry, there's no benefit to a Paul Williams fight unless he defends his belt for several years, or moves up in weigh and wins multiple titles at multiple weights.

He commands respect, he's fighting the highest rated P4P fighter (by the ring magazine) near his weight...bottom line. He might not be my favorite fighter, but i respect him and it does bother me seeing him knocked all the time.

brooklyn1550
08-02-2007, 12:03 AM
I'm very pleased that Mayweather has signed on to fight Hatton.

Sweet Scientist
08-02-2007, 12:08 AM
Thank you guys, that's all I'm trying to say, you know. Boxing fans and casual sports fans alike should be REALLY happy about this mega fight between two unbeaten fighters in their primes - with contrasting styles and personalities. And I sign on ESB...top article is about Mayweather taking the easy way out. That's my two cents.

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:09 AM
The fact that he signed on the dotted line to fight another p4p fighter in his prime should be plenty enough for everyone. If he wins, he can't stop there though.

Asterion
08-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Mayweather-Hatton was the best fight that could happen now. Mosley is really getting old and I think fighting Hatton is better for legassy. Cotto would be a great adversary but in one year, or maybe if his fight agianst Mosley happens and he wins.

sues2nd
08-02-2007, 12:14 AM
Whoever Mayweather fights, people piss on him for fighting. I'm not a Floyd fan, but to call Floyd out on ducking is just bullshit now.

Only in your fanboy dreams does a fight with Mosely make more sense. No disrespect for Mosely, but he was one fight away from obscurity a year ago when he beat on a near-finished Vargas. Just because he's fast, that's enough to justify being more of a threat to the P4P?

Cotto's resume is no better than Hatton and frankly he's only being glorified because he beat up on Zab Judah, who even got schooled by Baldomir. Not only is it not any better as matchup, but Mayweather-Cotto is also a shit fight in terms of public intrerest and money. It's not as good for the sport
bottom line.

So as much as I don't like Floyd, give the P4P man a break. 2 years ago when the world wanted Mayweather-Hatton more than anything, he was a pussy for taking any other fight. Then he goes through Judah, the guy who beat Judah, and stepped up for De la Hoya. Now he's going back for the unfinished business and he's ducking again. I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something. Who else should he fight?

Amen.

rr94
08-02-2007, 12:27 AM
you dont know what you are talking about. get off the computer

he should fight the top welters.. Cotto, Mosley, or even PW. since he beat AM..MAN just go to sleep , kid..

Cotto ain't no joke...i say he's the toughest test for PBF.

But come on, CARLITO is the biggest Margarito nuthugger (one of the few still living) and just PO'ed his boy got beat. Beating AM don't mean nothing. You win one title from one guy in one weight division doesn't give u a credible shot against the consensus p4p #1 fighter in the world. PW doesn't deserve it yet, period. He's been a champ for 3 weeks, Floyd 11 years, he makes no money and unless PW becomes an ATG he adds nothing to Floyd's ledger other than beating a guy the same size of his sparring partners, period.

Now if u gonna go off on someone else, listen up, it's economics 101...PW has sold 0 ppv's. 0. None. Never. He is a nobody in the PPV market. His best exposure before winning the title, yeah that was on a Mayweather undercard. Mayweather-Hatton, Mayweather-Mosely, Mayweather-Cotto, Mayweather-ODLH 2 all may be bigger fights than u can say indefinatly that PW will ever make. In reality, PW won't be at 147 long, and nobody knows how he'll fare down the stretch when he's fighting guys his size.

Hatton is a superfight. Floyd gets worldwide recognition, when a PW fight gives him marginal respect (very little if Floyd wins convincingly)...and is in no way an attraction of the magnitude of Ricky Hatton. Ricky Hatton is a big fight.

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:31 AM
please do tell who are the OTHER p4p fighters he fought in there prime, that wereNT coming off loses ofcourse..

dont worry Ill wait.
By saying "another" I meant quite obviously that he himself was a p4p fighter and was fighting a fellow p4p fighter in his prime.

But to answer your silly little question, Corrales was ranked p4p by Ring when PBF beat him. [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Moving on....

rr94
08-02-2007, 12:34 AM
please do tell who are the OTHER p4p fighters he fought in there prime, that wereNT coming off loses ofcourse..

dont worry Ill wait.

You'll wait on this message bored being obnoxious all night as usual. Next you'll be screaming Margarito Margarito like anybody is listening anymore.

Like it or not, Floyd is #1, you'll always find an excuse to knock him, you are a hater. You'll always say so-and-so will beat him. And when they get knocked off, you say the guy that beat him can beat Floyd. Then you knock his resume, his this, his that. Thing is, you're just ignorant.

5 weight classes. That's Margarito and Paul Williams winning a title at 175, being his first title was at 147, and Cotto winning a world title at 168. He deserves respect. Period. You don't show it. Every fighter deserves respect. Tear him down all you want, it's just ignorance. You don't like his style, or his this, or his that, and you talk ignorant shit.

Not even a floyd fan, just a carlito hater.

Just go choke on a burrito and die

rr94
08-02-2007, 12:36 AM
By saying "another" I meant quite obviously that he himself was a p4p fighter and was fighting a fellow p4p fighter in his prime.

But to answer your silly little question, Corrales was ranked p4p by Ring when PBF beat him. [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Moving on....

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:36 AM
please stretch your arm out, open your hand VERY wide AND just slap the piss outta your self.

Floyd is the welter weight champ.

Hatton is a JW...STRUGGLED at his one fight at 147 went back down. Boxing is a SPORT, WHERE THE best in each class should fight the BEST IN EACH CLASSor ATLEAST TRY TO..like TaYLOR, pAVLIK, orTarver and Dawson

not to fight the most popular fighter for money , to see how many PPV's you get, man you're just STOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID.

PW just beat tHe #1 ranked welter in the world. PERIOD.

Margarito was the 3rd ranked WW (not counting the champion).....but that was amusing.

rr94
08-02-2007, 12:38 AM
By saying "another" I meant quite obviously that he himself was a p4p fighter and was fighting a fellow p4p fighter in his prime.

But to answer your silly little question, Corrales was ranked p4p by Ring when PBF beat him. [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Moving on....

diego corrales undefeated and top 10 p4p when fought floyd. period.

PH|LLA
08-02-2007, 12:39 AM
its the total opposite

whoever floyd fights, he gets massive praise, even if its not that impressive.

Gatti, Baldomir, Judah, and ODLH

Floyd gets MASSIVE CREDIT for dominating 2 below average fighters, winning a close but comfortable decision against an average fighter, and barely sqeaking out a decision against a WAY past prime elite fighter...

Hatton is a breath of fresh air in a resume thats been stagnating since december 2002 (almost 5 years)

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:40 AM
HE WAS THE #1 RANKED WELTER..JUST A MONTH BEFORE PW FOUGHT HIM...AND ALSO WHEN HE CALLED FLOYD OUT,

you geek.
Geek is a term of endearmant. I am not from the hood where being smart is a detriment. So I thank you for the compliment.

No, Margarito had been dropped prior to that fight by Ring after Cotto beat Judah. Mosley was also ahead of him. And obviously so was PBF.

I know because I vehmently disagreed with them moving Margarito down without him losing a fight.

rr94
08-02-2007, 12:43 AM
mOSLEY IS HIS WBC MANDO, but he aint fighting him. Cotto is the #1 ranked welter..PW is a prime ranked undfeated welter..

Yeah Floyd should persue little Ricky Fatton..MAKES PERFECT SENSE :patsch

Hatton (8) and Cotto (10) in top 10 P4P as of yesterday. Mosely aint on that list. Hatton fight is a superfight.

I think if you read each of Carlito's remarks and claims, another ESB member has proven him wrong...no really, each one of them. Or atleast posed a stronger argument.

C Money
08-02-2007, 12:43 AM
Fucking Floyd fans are AMAZING!!!!

They trump the wins over guy's PBF should have beat and claim the best opposition/stiffest challenges are worthless fights:lol:

ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT!!!!!!!


Hatton is the first step for PBF in redemption of Cherry picking. Cotto, SSM, and PW are all top challengers and fights that would prove Floyd's legacy, denying that?? Only shows that Floyds balls arent see-thru:good

rr94
08-02-2007, 12:46 AM
Geek is a term of endearmant. I am not from the hood where being smart is a detriment. So I thank you for the compliment.

No, Margarito had been dropped prior to that fight by Ring after Cotto beat Judah. Mosley was also ahead of him. And obviously so was PBF.

I know because I vehmently disagreed with them moving Margarito down without him losing a fight.

again, kg is right...

and again carlito looks like a child...think before u speak buddy, do us all a favor.

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:47 AM
no sh$t :lol:




Mosley wasnt ahead of him prior to the PW fight.

Cotto moved ahead because he beat Judah..

You're not from the hood either. You're just emulating something you think is cool so you can TRY to be funny, since you lack intellect to actually argue the points. Sorry bud, but most peoples goal is to get out of the hood....not stay there. Respect it, but not prop it up to be some great thing. Proud of where you come from, but it isn't somewhere you want to aspire. So stop with the propaganda.

Yeah, Mosley was ahead of him. And even if I am wrong about that, I was right that Margo was rated #1 which is the entire point.

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:50 AM
so he has only fought ONE prior to this fight coming up??? :patsch


so sad..:verysad

It's sad that if he only fought one, you failed to know who it was. I mean, if you are going to spend your entire life talking about how much you hate a guy, learn a little more about him.

It was only one guy....shouldn't have been too hard to remember. That's the sad part.

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:51 AM
okay Urkal :yikes
Urkal got the girl and was a genius. I fail to see the insult there.

Sweet Scientist
08-02-2007, 12:52 AM
you dont know what you are talking about. get off the computer

he should fight the top welters.. Cotto, Mosley, or even PW. since he beat AM..MAN just go to sleep , kid..

Uh, okay, back to reality Carlito, where 90% of the people just came on here to agree with me.

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:55 AM
oh you mean the fight he had 5 years ago?? :lol:

OOPS..sorry that ONE fight FIVE years ago..slipped my mind..I had no idea that the same guy that Casamayor beat up was eVER ranked top ten p4p and Floyd fought him FIVE years ago...:good

If you knew it was 5 years ago, then you knew about the fight. PSST....Corrales also beat Casamayor.

Really, its not alot to remember.

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:55 AM
" DId I do that ??? "....:rofl

Probably not....you don't seem to be able to do much of anything. It's fun to watch you try though:deal

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:59 AM
this is just getting Silly now KG, you like my second fav poster..

These things happen. But I argue with guys I like and guys I don't. Only person I don't argue with is my wife and thats cuz she holds the keys to the kingdom between her...well, no need to explain that.

C Money
08-02-2007, 01:04 AM
These things happen. But I argue with guys I like and guys I don't. Only person I don't argue with is my wife and thats cuz she holds the keys to the kingdom between her...well, no need to explain that.

:lol: :good

Unfortunately,
many Queen's Cant Understand Normal Thoughts

so more diplomatic measures are required.:happy

kg0208
08-02-2007, 01:07 AM
:lol: :good

Unfortunately,
many Queen's Cant Understand Normal Thoughts

so more diplomatic measures are required.:happy

:lol::lol::lol:

1lehudson
08-02-2007, 01:12 AM
Uh, okay, back to reality Carlito, where 90% of the people just came on here to agree with me.Dont pay any mind to Spamlito, he has to be the most laughed at poster since farmy ran into hiding after Wlad got waxed by Brewster in the first fight.

Biggame
08-02-2007, 01:14 AM
:lol: :good

Unfortunately,
many Queen's Cant Understand Normal Thoughts

so more diplomatic measures are required.:happy


:rofl :rofl :rofl

That's a good one. Can't let my wife see that!!:nono

C Money
08-02-2007, 01:17 AM
:rofl :rofl :rofl

That's a good one. Can't let my wife see that!!:nono




When used in a sentence it can be deceptively funny. Such as when she's bitching about her mother, "Yes dear, sometimes you're mother just cant understand normal thought":good

Illmatic
08-02-2007, 01:19 AM
all these posts are just proving the original post correct. Good observation. Apparently fighting a top p4p fighter is "ducking"

C Money
08-02-2007, 01:26 AM
all these posts are just proving the original post correct. Good observation. Apparently fighting a top p4p fighter is "ducking"


Hatton is the first step for PBF in redemption of Cherry picking. Cotto, SSM, and PW are all top challengers and fights that would prove Floyd's legacy, denying that?? Only shows that Floyds balls arent see-thru:good



Oh Contra ire, Monfrair:good

I credit PBf for making this fight. It's Floyd fans that act as if it's a joke. Cotto, SSM, an PW are also fights that should be made and would IMPROVE Floyd's legacy, and reverse the cherry picking he's done from the beginning:good

Biggame
08-02-2007, 01:36 AM
When used in a sentence it can be deceptively funny. Such as when she's bitching about her mother, "Yes dear, sometimes you're mother just cant understand normal thought":good

Or "well hun she's aaaaa, hmmmmmm Can't Understand Normal Thought!!:hey

I'll be using this one the 1st opportunity I get today!!:yep