Introducing ........ from Sheffield England ...............Prince Naseem Hamed

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modern day legends..............................................


Hamed and nemisis Barrera

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[FLINT ISLAND]

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Hamed reigned for 5 years and made 15 defences - winning them all

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[fidds]

:-( Shame he gets so under rated these days

[alba]

he was agood boxer,sharp,fast .heput on some decent displays
.but he was too arrogant.to the poit were it made you sick.that side of him always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[alba]

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i still think nasseem shoul have pushed for a rematch.

[FLINT ISLAND]

he was agood boxer,sharp,fast .heput on some decent displays
.but he was too arrogant.to the poit were it made you sick.that side of him always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

you mean this side of him

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[FLINT ISLAND]

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i still think nasseem shoul have pushed for a rematch.


classic fight

it was a entertaining 12 rounder of the two best featherweights in the world

[Claypole]

classic fight

it was a entertaining 12 rounder of the two best featherweights in the worldIt wasn't that great a fight, Naz just simply got owned. Big time.

[alba]

classic fight

it was a entertaining 12 rounder of the two best featherweights in the world

Would you say he had a suspect chin?

Could you imagen if Naseem was around now.What weight would he be fgihting at?

[hitman_hatton1]

still don't think hamed was a great fighter.

just a very good one.

[FLINT ISLAND]

It wasn't that great a fight, Naz just simply got owned. Big time.

:-(

it was a classic fight

their styles gelled well together for non stop action

While Barrera got the better of the argument - it was highly competitive fight

Barrera was pounded in the 10th round but hanged on through the storm to win the last couple of rounds big and take the decsion

[alba]

does anyone have a link to the naseem v barrera fight?looking more for a stream ... not the one on google videos one cheers

[FLINT ISLAND]

Would you say he had a suspect chin?

Could you imagen if Naseem was around now.What weight would he be fgihting at?

no he had a good chin to weather the big shots that found him

he looked a mess and off balance cos of his style.

Alicea floored him but when you hang your chin out to dry with your hands down by your bollocks your asking for it

[FLINT ISLAND]

does anyone have a link to the naseem v barrera fight?looking more for a stream ... not the one on google videos one cheers

I taped the fight live off TV in 2001

on VHS video tape

however I dont even have a VHS Video player anymore

its all be thrown away

its all DVDS etc now - such is the advancment in technology

[FLINT ISLAND]

Barrera boxed off the back foot for alot of that fight

that took Hamed and everbody else by surprise

everyone had him down as a come forward slugger up until that point

he proved his intelligence and versatilty in that fight and it paid off for him

like Kevin Kelly said after the Hamed fight

"I have never seen that version of Barrera before"

[Geoffers]

Say what you like about Naz... he put on a show.

[fidds]

A nas fight was always entertaining and i had no problem forking over the £££ to see him on sky box office :hey

["TKO"]

Barrera boxed off the back foot for alot of that fight

that took Hamed and everbody else by surprise

everyone had him down as a come forward slugger up until that point

he proved his intelligence and versatilty in that fight and it paid off for him

like Kevin Kelly said after the Hamed fight

"I have never seen that version of Barrera before"

This is correct :good

[FLINT ISLAND]

Say what you like about Naz... he put on a show.

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[Prince Laz]

Quite possibly my favourite boxer of all time. The spot he left in boxing still hasn't been filled and I don't see anyone filling it anytime soon. He could have been the Pele of british boxing, but at the end of the day he knew that he could have to and as a result become british boxing's George Best.

Yeah, he got his ass handed to him by MAB but even that loss doesn't seem that bad anymore given what Calzaghe did to Lacy.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Quite possibly my favourite boxer of all time. The spot he left in boxing still hasn't been filled and I don't see anyone filling it anytime soon. He could have been the Pele of british boxing, but at the end of the day he knew that he could have to and as a result become british boxing's George Best.

Yeah, he got his ass handed to him by MAB but even that loss doesn't seem that bad anymore given what Calzaghe did to Lacy.


yes he was beaten fair and square

but it was not some one sided 2 round beat down

it was a competitive 12 rounder where Barrera got the better of the argument

it only looked so bad cos Naz had talked himself up as some unbeatable legend

[fidds]

Quite possibly my favourite boxer of all time. The spot he left in boxing still hasn't been filled and I don't see anyone filling it anytime soon. He could have been the Pele of british boxing, but at the end of the day he knew that he could have to and as a result become british boxing's George Best.

Yeah, he got his ass handed to him by MAB but even that loss doesn't seem that bad anymore given what Calzaghe did to Lacy.


It wan't that bad a loss at all :patsch 116-111 112-115 112-115 thats not anywhere near as bad as people make out.

I wish barrera had of gone toe to toe with nas and we wouldnt be talking about it now :good

[Prince Laz]

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. In hindsight it wasn't such a bad loss. The fact that he chose not to come back to elite level afterwards makes it seem a lot worse too 'cause then all the Hamed haters get to use it as some sort of excuse that he was a overated blah blah blah.

EDIT: Can I make it clear that I don't think the MAB loss was that bad, lol. I guess I'm wording myself wrong.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. In hindsight it wasn't such a bad loss. The fact that he chose not to come back to elite level afterwards makes it seem a lot worse too 'cause then all the Hamed haters get to use it as some sort of excuse that he was a overated blah blah blah.

EDIT: Can I make it clear that I don't think the MAB loss was that bad, lol. I guess I'm wording myself wrong.


The loss might have been a fatal blow to his invinvcible confidence

and he might never have been the same again after that

because if there ever was a "confidence" fighter it was Naseem

without that he would not have been the special fighter he was

however I believe the main reason he did not come back to elite level after that is because he was already winding down his career come the Barrera fight

he was fighting less and less often

and he had made millions

and I think he felt fufilled with what he had achieved

even if he had wan the Barrera fight - I still think the end of his career was near

the come back against Calvo was just a flash in the pan - he was done as a prize fighter - win or lose the Barrera fight

[Benjiabc]

he was agood boxer,sharp,fast .heput on some decent displays
.but he was too arrogant.to the poit were it made you sick.that side of him always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


makes me sick when i hear people say that. Being arrogant was what made naseem who he was, it was what entertained british boxing fans for a good number of years. He talked the talk but more often then not he walked the walk. a true entertainer and truely missed.

[Boro chris]

makes me sick when i hear people say that. Being arrogant was what made naseem who he was, it was what entertained british boxing fans for a good number of years. He talked the talk but more often then not he walked the walk. a true entertainer and truely missed.

Mate I consider myself a bit of a Naz apologist on esb, but his mocking of opponents dose leave a bad taste in many peoples mouths. Thats just a natural human reaction.

[Benjiabc]

Mate I consider myself a bit of a Naz apologist on esb, but his mocking of opponents dose leave a bad taste in many peoples mouths. Thats just a natural human reaction.


of course i see your point, but for me personally to have a few people like that is what makes the sport as special as it is, if he keeps winning then great, if he gets beat then all the haters will be very pleased. if everyone in the sport was humble and respective of opponents then the sport would not be half what it is. Just my opinion

[GazOC]

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. In hindsight it wasn't such a bad loss. The fact that he chose not to come back to elite level afterwards makes it seem a lot worse too 'cause then all the Hamed haters get to use it as some sort of excuse that he was a overated blah blah blah.

EDIT: Can I make it clear that I don't think the MAB loss was that bad, lol. I guess I'm wording myself wrong.

He'd already fallen out of love with the game and started believing his own press clippings before he fought MAB.

Great fighter and entertainer though. He's wasn't chinny, he just used to get clipped because of his style.

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yes he was beaten fair and square

but it was not some one sided 2 round beat down

it was a competitive 12 rounder where Barrera got the better of the argument

it only looked so bad cos Naz had talked himself up as some unbeatable legend

Flint, you actually talk a lot of sense when the subject is anything other than Enzo Mac! This is exactly correct!

[alba]

makes me sick when i hear people say that. Being arrogant was what made naseem who he was, it was what entertained british boxing fans for a good number of years. He talked the talk but more often then not he walked the walk. a true entertainer and truely missed.

i would say it was his showmanship in the ring that made him for me.i just think his babelling didnae work for me.I dont know why i just dont like to see uk fighters do it,if its an american i can stomach it (i cant explain it any other way)

but your right he did entertain many a boxing fan,and he certainly netertained me.

[John18]

God I hated Naz.

I realise I'm in the minority.

["TKO"]

God I hated Naz.

I realise I'm in the minority.

Believe me, you're not in the minority on here. The vast majority hated him in my experience. Now if you were one of the few who could see beyond his general twattishness and realise that he was actually a hell of a fighter you would be in a tiny minority (which does include my good self).

[ScouseLad]

God I hated Naz.

I realise I'm in the minority.

He was a brilliant fighter but an absolute wanker. Lets forget all this "just hyping the fight" "he's a character" bla bla bla, he was an arrogant twat. I loved watching him though.

[BamBam]

I'd go along with the very good but not great assessment. Maybe he could have been up there as an ATG and he certainly looked like he had what it took as far as skills go but he hadn't got the nessecary heart in the end.

He did well distpaching a decent enough division and being top of that particular tree for a few years but when he stepped it up against one of the best P4P guys out there he got completey owned and never came back from it. Just looked back over the fight on a few clips there and I forgot just how completely MAB dominated the fight. He really did box the ears off Hamed. And I have to say I could never stand Naz and the way he carried on towards other fighters so I took a lot of pleasure in watching MAB bounce his head off the turnbuckle. It was a comfortable win even with the dedcution. What lets Naz down is that he never went after any of the elite after that fight. No rematch, no mixing it up at the next level, he just beat Calvo then disappeared

[ConcretePete]

McGuigan would have killed this overrated idiot in the same way Berrera did. An absolute mess of a human being.

[Fat Joe]

He was a brilliant fighter but an absolute wanker.

I was about 14, 15 when Naz came on the scene, so i was impressed with all his boasting and antics. Now I'm older if someone like Hamed came onto the scene I'd probably think he was a complete tool.

[daz52]

It wan't that bad a loss at all :patsch 116-111 112-115 112-115 thats not anywhere near as bad as people make out.

I wish barrera had of gone toe to toe with nas and we wouldnt be talking about it now :good

Oh and why not? Barrera has shown nothing but a good chin 36 rounds of WAR against Morales among other fights and somehow Naz is just going to magically knock him out?

[kurt2006]

McGuigan would have killed this overrated idiot in the same way Berrera did. An absolute mess of a human being.

:lol: That is well funny. Naz would have retired Baz for good within 5 rounds.

[kurt2006]

Oh and why not? Barrera has shown nothing but a good chin 36 rounds of WAR against Morales among other fights and somehow Naz is just going to magically knock him out?

Prime motivated Ingle trained Naz would have knocked them all out.

[Primadonna Kool]

"The prince is for real...the prince is for real"

George Foreman..seconds after Prince Naseem Hamed, won what Larry Merchant called the Hagler/Hearns of featherweight fights. Knocking Kevin Kelly out in a war.

[Fat Joe]

Oh and why not? Barrera has shown nothing but a good chin 36 rounds of WAR against Morales among other fights and somehow Naz is just going to magically knock him out?

Junior Jones sparked him

[El Cepillo]

does anyone have a link to the naseem v barrera fight?looking more for a stream ... not the one on google videos one cheers

on you tube

[ron u.k.]

there is a little bit of the re-writing of history going on here regarding the barrera fight.naz was outclassed.one fighter was well drilled in all the arts of the sweet science,who had the flexibility and talent to alter his style and gameplan to suit his opponent.the other mainly only had one game plan and in total contrast was drilled mainly in bad habits,and despite his outrageous power those deficincies were exposed when he came up against a real top class opponent and atg.

[gutto]

God I hated Naz.

I realise I'm in the minority.

100% behind you on the hate

[mattress]

Not a bad fighter but a ATG arsehole

[HOF]

there is a little bit of the re-writing of history going on here regarding the barrera fight.naz was outclassed.one fighter was well drilled in all the arts of the sweet science,who had the flexibility and talent to alter his style and gameplan to suit his opponent.the other mainly only had one game plan and in total contrast was drilled mainly in bad habits,and despite his outrageous power those deficincies were exposed when he came up against a real top class opponent and atg.

Totally agree. And of course once Naz had been confronted by this reality in the shape of Barrera that was effectively the end of him as a fighter. Luckily for him he'd made so much cash that he could walk away unlike other fighters who have had the same flaws drilled into them at that particular gym.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Totally agree. And of course once Naz had been confronted by this reality in the shape of Barrera that was effectively the end of him as a fighter. Luckily for him he'd made so much cash that he could walk away unlike other fighters who have had the same flaws drilled into them at that particular gym.

come on pal

if most fighters were able to go 12 rounds with Barrera and lose 115-111 on the scorecard - that would go down as a very game and respectable effort - a world class performance

[John18]

I remember watching the Barrera fight and being impressed with Naz's footwork - he really stopped himself from getting completely broken down with his ability to move.

What was it MAB said? Something like after Morales I go to the hospital, after this (Naz) I go party. Kinda puts a dampner on Naz: King of the Punchers.

[FLINT ISLAND]

what was the truth of Naz's split with the old irishman?

was Ingle really a "Judas" ?

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[FLINT ISLAND]

FAT GREEDY TWAT.......................

In my personal belief I reckon Riath Hamed was responsible for cutting Ingle out

They didnt want a "outsider" taking a large cut of Naz's purse money - despite the fact Ingle had trained Naz up from nothing

it was a Hamed family takeover of his career

cutting out Brandan Ingle and Frank ******

led by fat greedy twat Riath

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[FLINT ISLAND]

Nabeel Hamed was a fucking idiot


"Join Naz's fanclub - and you will end up like me - young and rich and good looking"

No thanks - I dont want to end up like you - a fucking deluded idiot making a complete cock of himself

Nabeel also mocked Marco Antonio Barreras preparation for the Naz fight

"He's up there in the cold and snow - while we are down here in the warm"

Its called being a professional and preparing for a big fight you idiot

Its not all about hanging out with your boys in some rich guys luxury villa

When Naz let his family get hold of his career the plot was lost

[Claypole]

FAT GREEDY TWAT.......................
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[FLINT ISLAND]

Yeah, maybe now, but Naz was a good fighter back in his day.......

:lol:

since when did Naz start wearing glasses? :lol:

[LiamE]

Would you say he had a suspect chin?

Could you imagen if Naseem was around now.What weight would he be fgihting at?

Cruiserweight.

[HOF]

come on pal

if most fighters were able to go 12 rounds with Barrera and lose 115-111 on the scorecard - that would go down as a very game and respectable effort - a world class performance
Although I had no great like of Hamed as a person, I was hoping to see one of ours really do it against a top p4p player. But I was deflated at the ease with which Barrera controlled the fight and how Naz was consistently beaten to the punch. It's known that the nature of the defeat completely dispirited him and unfortunately he never regained the confidence to have another crack at it. As a prominent media pundit and frequenter of the british section of this forum wrote in the aftermath:

"Naseem Hamed, the fallen idol of British boxing, will return to the ring in London on 23 March in the first of a new three-fight deal with the American cable company HBO in what will be his first fight since losing his unbeaten record last April to Marco Antonio Barrera.

Hamed was due to fight in November, but a dispute with HBO over the quality of opponent and the assault on the World Trade Centre in New York led to the boxer postponing his return and then disappearing off the scene. At first Hamed blamed the attacks on the United States for his withdrawal, but it emerged that HBO executives were unhappy with the list of opponents that Hamed suggested and this led to an announcement that the boxer had split from HBO, but the rift lasted less than 24-hours.

However, negotiations took place over Christmas with HBO, and Hamed, managed by his brother Riath, is expected to sign the new deal next week and will then start to train to lose the 40lb he gains between fights. The first fight in London will probably be against the current European featherweight champion, Manuel Calvo, from Spain, but the level of opposition will improve for the second fight in the summer in America. The third fight of the new deal will be an all important pay-per-view meeting at the end of the year against the winner of the eagerly-anticipated rematch between Barrera and Erik Morales, which is scheduled to take place in Las Vegas on 2 March.

Hamed, who will be 28 next month, was unbeaten in 35 fights before losing on points to Barrera in Las Vegas. It was a dismal performance and he tarnished his reputation further by refusing to enforce a rematch clause. A few weeks after Hamed's loss, Lennox Lewis was knocked out by Hasim Rahman and demanded a rematch before he had even left the ring.

"We are looking at a new contract now with HBO," confirmed Riath, who in the past has kept negotiations private. "Naseem is happy and he is looking forward to boxing again."

Four months ago Hamed had a small gym built for him in his home town of Sheffield and that is where he will begin his preparation in solitude for his return." (Jan, 2002)