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Kamil
08-02-2007, 12:56 AM
1.Cotto
2.Mosley
3.Hatton

:smoke

kg0208
08-02-2007, 12:57 AM
I don't think either of those 3 will....but give Cotto a better shot than the other 2 because of Mosley's age and I just don't think Hatton can do it.

Williams might be able to, and I think Spinks could beat him.

pipe wrenched
08-02-2007, 12:59 AM
Cotto.

sues2nd
08-02-2007, 01:01 AM
ofcourse, he JUST beat the #1 welter in the world..

gnite :good

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sad thing is....I agree with your sarcasm. Williams has all the physical tools to give Floyd absolute fits.

brooklyn1550
08-02-2007, 01:05 AM
1. Miguel Cotto
2. Paul Williams
3. Shane Mosley

I think Floyd could beat all 3 of them, but he would have to work for the W

1lehudson
08-02-2007, 01:05 AM
floyd beats Cotto, and hatton fairly easy. Shane is the one that Im not sure about. Williams could be the toughest matchup for Floyd

rr94
08-02-2007, 01:12 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sad thing is....I agree with your sarcasm. Williams has all the physical tools to give Floyd absolute fits.

No, sad thing is he's not being sarcastic...Carlito is really the last solider of the Margarito hype machine. He's on PW's nuts b/c of it. For me to hug PW's nuts like Carlito he has to beat Cintron, Cotto-Mosely winner, or even Clottey. I just feel a win over Margarito doesn't completely make PW a major player because i never thought of Margarito as more than a mediocre titlist and some people thought he was the next coming of Jesus. Just ask Carlito and Maxboxing writers, i bet they still believe it.

H .
08-02-2007, 01:13 AM
Personally, I'd say neither. But I do think they each deserve a shot. But Mayweather isn't the type of champ to take on every threat.

sues2nd
08-02-2007, 01:14 AM
No, sad thing is he's not being sarcastic...Carlito is really the last solider of the Margarito hype machine. He's on PW's nuts b/c of it. For me to hug PW's nuts like Carlito he has to beat Cintron, Cotto-Mosely winner, or even Clottey. I just feel a win over Margarito doesn't completely make PW a major player because i never thought of Margarito as more than a mediocre titlist and some people thought he was the next coming of Jesus. Just ask Carlito and Maxboxing writers, i bet they still believe it.

I know...I was being sarcastic.....:yep

1lehudson
08-02-2007, 01:15 AM
No, sad thing is he's not being sarcastic...Carlito is really the last solider of the Margarito hype machine. He's on PW's nuts b/c of it. For me to hug PW's nuts like Carlito he has to beat Cintron, Cotto-Mosely winner, or even Clottey. I just feel a win over Margarito doesn't completely make PW a major player because i never thought of Margarito as more than a mediocre titlist and some people thought he was the next coming of Jesus. Just ask Carlito and Maxboxing writers, i bet they still believe it.Because in Spamlitos mind Williams doing well will mean that Tony would too have done well. He is blind to what the rest of us see, and that is tony is average. Spamlito thinks that he is the best fighter at WW.

rr94
08-02-2007, 01:16 AM
Personally, I'd say neither. But I do think they each deserve a shot. But Mayweather isn't the type of champ to take on every threat.

i want mayweather-hatton...winner gets Cotto-Mosely winner. It's a 4 man tournament of 3 fights top-10 p4p, and Mosely (former p4p #1). We don't get treats like this very often. 3 of 4 top 10 p4p fighters, one being the best, fighting like that. if mayweather beats both, rematches with DLH, retires for real undefeated he gets my respect...in todays politics i'd say it's an impressive resume.

kg0208
08-02-2007, 01:16 AM
I only think Williams not because of the win over Margarito but because of the tools he brings to the table. I said before the fight that even if Margarito won that I thought he couldn't beat PBF and that Williams might be able to.

The Italarican
08-02-2007, 01:17 AM
When I first read this thread title, I was thinking all-time, so my first thought was Tommy Hearns.

Of these guys, I'd rank it:

1. Mosley
2. Hatton
3. Cotto

kg0208
08-02-2007, 01:19 AM
When I first read this thread title, I was thinking all-time, so my first thought was Tommy Hearns.

Of these guys, I'd rank it:

1. Mosley
2. Hatton
3. Cotto

Hearns KO's PBF and just about any 147lb fighter ever IMO. But thats another thread.

H .
08-02-2007, 01:21 AM
i want mayweather-hatton...winner gets Cotto-Mosely winner. It's a 4 man tournament of 3 fights top-10 p4p, and Mosely (former p4p #1). We don't get treats like this very often. 3 of 4 top 10 p4p fighters, one being the best, fighting like that. if mayweather beats both, rematches with DLH, retires for real undefeated he gets my respect...in todays politics i'd say it's an impressive resume.

Ya know, that sounds pretty fuckin' good. That would be tremendous, and no one could bitch too much if Floyd beat Hatton and then the Mosley/Cotto winner.
But what are the odds of it happenning?

rr94
08-02-2007, 01:21 AM
Because in Spamlitos mind Williams doing well will mean that Tony would too have done well. He is blind to what the rest of us see, and that is tony is average. Spamlito thinks that he is the best fighter at WW.

Hatton -Mayweather '07 and Cotto-Mayweather '08 two straight undefeated top-10 pound for pound fighters after the highest grossing fight in history speaks loudly for Mayweather ending his career strongly. Tony will retire never being a top-10 p4p fighter. Williams has been untested by welters and heavier larger fighters.

The Italarican
08-02-2007, 01:23 AM
I could name a good 20-25 guys from 130-147 I'd probably at least have even money against Floyd, if not favorites.

Possible. Hearns is the guy that right away popped into my head as a stylistic nightmare for Floyd, and Floyd couldn't expose the one weakness Hitman had.

rr94
08-02-2007, 01:24 AM
Ya know, that sounds pretty fuckin' good. That would be tremendous, and no one could bitch too much if Floyd beat Hatton and then the Mosley/Cotto winner.
But what are the odds of it happenning?

ive been ringside for Cotto's garden fights, and OMG is this guy huge over there. I've never been to a fight where the crowd is so crazy for their guy. I think Golden Boy is setting this up, if Mosely wins he becomes marketable enough to make a blockbuster with Mayweather. If Cotto wins, he'll be more marketable than he already is. I love Cotto, he's gonna be huge. I don't think Floyd can retire without fighting Cotto.

Bad_Intentions
08-02-2007, 01:25 AM
cotto.

jackiebrown
08-02-2007, 01:26 AM
any fighter in the world can beat any other fighter in the world if they want it bad enough ..

kg0208
08-02-2007, 01:29 AM
Define "just about". I actually think he decisions Floyd, as I don't see too many KO'ing Floyd with his superb defense. But back to my question, who do you see beating him?

I don't think Hearns could KO SRR, SRL, or Whitaker.

As for Hearn and PBF. PBF would have no advantages here. Hearns may be the best pure boxer I ever saw (admittedly not seeing much of the guys from the 60's and before) and of course, the power, oh my....I can't conceive of a way for PBF to get away from him. I don't think many KO PBF who has an underrated chin and great defense...but Hearns I think could.

smokey
08-02-2007, 01:33 AM
I wouldn't bet on this, but I'm in agreement with Doug Fischer. I think this fight is going to be a lot tougher for Floyd than most people, including experts, think. I wouldn't pick Hatton to beat ANY of the current WW titlists, but I think he has a legit shot against one: Mayweather. Styles make fights, and Hatton has the style to give Mayweather fits.

Other than that, I think Williams could beat Mayweather simply due to the physical advantages.

C Money
08-02-2007, 01:39 AM
I give all 3 varying degrees of chance in beating Floyd.


Yet, here's my order of the most likely

1, Cotto
2. SSm
3. Hatton

kg0208
08-02-2007, 01:46 AM
You say you admittedly didn't see much of guys from 60 and before? Well what about someone like Emile Griffith? I feel he has the style to beat Hearns, and possibly finish him late, as Hearns was known to not be the best at taking bodyshots, as well as not known for his chin or durability. Do you think he KO's granite chinned top 5 WW of all time Kid Gavilan, who went the distance twice with Robinson and took his hardest shots?

As I said, I have not seen much of them.

How many guys have fought at 147? I think Hearns could KO 95% of them. If you can name 10 that he couldn't, or even 20, I think I would still be well within that limit.

Lance_Uppercut
08-02-2007, 01:47 AM
While I think Shane beats Cotto, I think Cotto has the best chance of the three.

I agree WIlliams might be able to give Floyd a hell of a test. Just due to size and workrate.

Fab2333
08-02-2007, 01:50 AM
1. Mosley
2. Cotto
3. HAtton

But I still think that Floyd can beat all 3 of them honestly.

HopkinsFan
08-02-2007, 01:53 AM
as if Cotto could beat pbf, pbf's defense just too good for cotto's bodywork and even when he mixes it up, up and downstairs. only guy that can match pbf's speed and therefore have a good chance is sugar shane.

Jinx
08-02-2007, 02:16 AM
at 147 i see Williams as the biggest threat to PBF because of his size and style...PBF would have to take chances against Williams, because the jab would bother PBF all night...after Williams, Mosley would be the next biggest threat to PBF...then Cotto...then Cintron...then Margarito...then Hatton...

bb251
08-02-2007, 02:27 AM
none of them

SchweitzerMan
08-02-2007, 06:38 PM
Oddly enough, I was thinking of Hearns too when I first read this thread