Fedor Emeninako vs. Brock Lesner

[Canibus81]

Who wins this fight if it ever happens? I'd like to see this as well, it would be interesting to see if Brocks strength and athletic qualities, along with the natural talent and improvements he's made would be enough to end Fedors reign.

[Canibus81]

Fedor would demolish him!

He's never fought a guy as strong and quick as Brock is. Lets not forget, Brock dominated Hearing more than Fedor did.

[Tko4]

Um, Fedor.

[Canibus81]

Um, Fedor.

Fedor had a lot good to say about Brock, but stylisticly, I like Brocks chances. If Hunt can control Fedor in some of the Clinches, I definelty like Brocks chances since that's more of his style.

[boxingcar]

He's never fought a guy as strong and quick as Brock is. Lets not forget, Brock dominated Hearing more than Fedor did.

I don't think so....
Herring was forced to abandon the fight....He got beat up...it was just fucking brutal.

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[Canibus81]

I don't think so....
Herring was forced to abandon the fight....He got beat up...it was just fucking brutal.

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Post Brocks fight with hearing. Brock raped him on the ground like he was his girl friend and even crushed him with a right hand in the opening round, which also says he's a much bigger hitter than Fedor. And you know it too.

[Tko4]

I don't think there can possibly be any debate here. Sure, Lesnar is a great athlete and ridiculously strong. But he's also proven himself prone to submissions, and Fedor is a master of slapping submissions on bigger, stronger, taller fighters. You name a fighter, and Fedor has found a way to twist his arm into a knot.

[Canibus81]

I don't think there can possibly be any debate here. Sure, Lesnar is a great athlete and ridiculously strong. But he's also proven himself prone to submissions, and Fedor is a master of slapping submissions on bigger, stronger, taller fighters. You name a fighter, and Fedor has found a way to twist his arm into a knot.

He lost one fight to frank mir and that was a big fight for him with hardly no experience and he was beating mir(a former UFC heavyweight champion). He's definetly better now than he was when he fought Mir. I don't think he gets caught like that again, and fedor would have a harder time submitting someone like Brock more than anyone he has ever faced. Brock also has the power to hurt fedor if he lands. He won't get beat like the bum ass uncordinated Tim Sylvia did. Brock beats Fedor if the fight ever happens, and you'll see for yourself.

[Tko4]

He lost one fight to frank mir and that was a big fight for him with hardly no experience and he was beating mir(a former UFC heavyweight champion). He's definetly better now than he was when he fought Mir. I don't think he gets caught like that again, and fedor would have a harder time submitting someone like Brock more than anyone he has ever faced. Brock also has the power to hurt fedor if he lands. He won't get beat like the bum ass uncordinated Tim Sylvia did. Brock beats Fedor if the fight ever happens, and you'll see for yourself.

I like Brock, but saying he will beat Fedor if they fought is downright ridiculous.

[Canibus81]

I like Brock, but saying he will beat Fedor if they fought is downright ridiculous.

Yup, it was also ridiculous when Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson or syaing Tarver was gonna beat the great Roy Jones, or that a blown up lightweight in BJ Penn could beat the naturally bigger and stronger man in Matt Hughes, but we all seen what happened. Fedor is human. And lets not forget he had a hard time with mark hunt, who isn't even a skilled grappler like Brock, brock can do everything hunt did that night and better.

[Beebs]

If Brock could get the take down and cause some damage, he would prolong Fedor Subbing him, which would be the eventual result. I think he could look good losing.

[Beebs]

and fedor would have a harder time submitting someone like Brock more than anyone he has ever faced. Brock also has the power to hurt fedor if he lands.
Depents on what you mean by harder time subbing? If you mean he is too strong, well he did fight Choi who, while terrible, is freakishly large. Brock is the better MMA fighter than Choi though, and would be harder to sub because he can back up that strength with some technique and positioning.

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The hardest person for Fedor to sub would have been Nog, who has never been subbed or KO'd in MMA.

You do point out how Brock would win if he could, but the odds are just too high, Fedor's sub and striking game are just too good.

[ufoalf]

Fedor by sub.

[Canibus81]

Depents on what you mean by harder time subbing? If you mean he is too strong, well he did fight Choi who, while terrible, is freakishly large. Brock is the better MMA fighter than Choi though, and would be harder to sub because he can back up that strength with some technique and positioning.

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The hardest person for Fedor to sub would have been Nog, who has never been subbed or KO'd in MMA.

You do point out how Brock would win if he could, but the odds are just too high, Fedor's sub and striking game are just too good.

On the contary, Nog doesn't have the power, extra size, or quickness Brock has, that's difference. Nog is a submission expert, so anyone would have a world of trouble trying to submit nog and probably wouldn't be able to.

[ufoalf]

The juice is strong with Brock Lesnar.

[Beebs]

On the contary, Nog doesn't have the power, extra size, or quickness Brock has, that's difference. Nog is a submission expert, so anyone would have a world of trouble trying to submit nog and probably wouldn't be able to.

Thats what I said, that Nog would be the hardest person for Fedor to submit.

[Canibus81]

Thats what I said, that Nog would be the hardest person for Fedor to submit.

I know but the extra qualities I stated that Brock has, would make it hard for Fedor to submit without taking some big shots and getting hurt.

[steelem]

if brock can get a win over coulture then i think he may have a chance

[achillesthegreat]

Fedor would sub him in 1st round.

[québecwarrior]

Lesnar has no chance in my opinion. If Fedor want the fight on his feet, he is gonna fight there the whole fight until he KO that big motherfucker 'cause Fedor is much more faster both on his hands and on his feet than Lesnar. If Fedor want the fight on Brock Lesnar on the ground, he is gonna get it and submit him.

[pauliemayweathe]

Who wins this fight if it ever happens? I'd like to see this as well, it would be interesting to see if Brocks strength and athletic qualities, along with the natural talent and improvements he's made would be enough to end Fedors reign.

I like Brock but this is the dumbest thread ever....he has no chance in anything but wrestling...he loses by ko or submission first rd...sad thing is they may be 2 best hws in a year or so

[SouthpawSlayer]

fedor submission

[boxingcar]

Post Brocks fight with hearing. Brock raped him on the ground like he was his girl friend and even crushed him with a right hand in the opening round, which also says he's a much bigger hitter than Fedor. And you know it too.

i've seen brock's fight vs herring , and fedor is the one who did the most dammage to herring's face & body. Brock landed a big punch in the opening round , then it just was a lay and pray fest (well almost). Fedor was more active and landed bombs on the ground....

Herring was forced to abandon the fight vs fedor.
Brock won by UD

as for fedor vs brock...I'd say fedor , by submission round 1 or rnd 2

[pauliemayweathe]

Yup, it was also ridiculous when Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson or syaing Tarver was gonna beat the great Roy Jones, or that a blown up lightweight in BJ Penn could beat the naturally bigger and stronger man in Matt Hughes, but we all seen what happened. Fedor is human. And lets not forget he had a hard time with mark hunt, who isn't even a skilled grappler like Brock, brock can do everything hunt did that night and better.


ok so brock has the same shot as buster douglass...sounds about right..happens once in a lifetime...and it already happened and fedor is MUCH stronger mentally than tyson. Tarver was not even a great upset

[elixirvtec]

One person i don't think brock could defect is NOG. Yeah brock could take NOG down but then he'd be playing into NOG game.

[Canibus81]

ok so brock has the same shot as buster douglass...sounds about right..happens once in a lifetime...and it already happened and fedor is MUCH stronger mentally than tyson. Tarver was not even a great upset

You the first person that said that Tarver beating Roy at that time wasn't an hugh upset. The whole world saw at it as an hugh upset, but you. Maybe you should rewind back in time and refreshin your memory.

[achillesthegreat]

One person i don't think brock could defect is NOG. Yeah brock could take NOG down but then he'd be playing into NOG game.
We all love to watch Nog's game don't we. Look to be suffering and then win. I love it :)

[Bill Butcher]

Fedor by submission.

Brock would get too excited if he managed to out-wrestle Fedor to the ground & while trying to take Fedor`s back, Fedor would forward roll to a kneebar.....
Thats only if Brock gets on top 1st but if Fedor gets on top 1st it will be ground & pound until Brock panics & leaves his arm dangling then armbar.

Either way, Fedor by stoppage.

[Bill Butcher]

Thats what I said, that Nog would be the hardest person for Fedor to submit.

Agreed..... & vice versa aswell.

Both Fedor & Nogueira are the 2 greatest HWTs in MMA history aswell as the top 2 current HWTs.

They had 3 (or 2 1/2 if you like) fights & nobody came that close with a submission, it was Fedors better wrestling & punch power that gave him the edge.

Oddly enough, if anyone were to beat Fedor, Id probably say Nog was most likely to by submission.
Fedor was smart enough to not play the submission game with Nog for too long but in the heat of the moment you never know, Nogueira only needs a split second & he will sub anyone in the world. He is without equal in any division in that regard IMO.

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[Sardu]

Fedor wins an exciting albeit one sided fight by sub IMO.

[Nuke]

This thread is retarded, I don't see Lesnar winning this fight in anyway besides a cut. Lesnar is no better then anybody in MMA and honestly, a cut stoppage is the only way I EVER see Fedor losing no matter who he fights.

[ozziebattler]

Fedor would demolish him!

I doubt he would demolish him.

Submit him very easily.yes...

But shouldnt we be talking Lesnar v Couture?

[sugarngold]

I doubt he would demolish him.

Submit him very easily.yes...

But shouldnt we be talking Lesnar v Couture?

The Couture vs Lesnar debates are coming. This is just the calm before the storm. In fact - we are thinking of having a forum wide avatar bet on that fight.

[ozziebattler]

The Couture vs Lesnar debates are coming. This is just the calm before the storm. In fact - we are thinking of having a forum wide avatar bet on that fight.

Mate throw me on the Lesnar Bandwagon..

Though it should be a c.r.a.c.k.e.r.(Australian word for good event)

So dont take offence.lol

[LONE WOLF]

Fedor by KO in 19 seconds. Brock's never been hit on his chin and so I doubt he is trained to take a big punch. Fedor would demolish him while Brock tries to bullrush him. See Aleks v. Thompson for a demonstration of how I would see the fight playing out.

[ozziebattler]

Fedor by KO in 19 seconds. Brock's never been hit on his chin and so I doubt he is trained to take a big punch. Fedor would demolish him while Brock tries to bullrush him. See Aleks v. Thompson for a demonstration of how I would see the fight playing out.

Brocks taken a few decent chair shots in his day.:D

But on a serious note i actually think Brock looks like he would have a decent chin on him.Just seems like a typical meathead who would bang his head against the wall for fun.

[joe the great]

I'd favor Fedor in one round.

[ozziebattler]

What is the point of this thread?

Absolutely no1 is going to say Lesnar would defeat Fedor.

Nor is there a point for any discussion about a possible matchup.

Lets talk Lesnar vs Couture...Remember that is Lesnar's next very very tough opponent.

[joe the great]

What is the point of this thread?

Absolutely no1 is going to say Lesnar would defeat Fedor.

Nor is there a point for any discussion about a possible matchup.

Lets talk Lesnar vs Couture...Remember that is Lesnar's next very very tough opponent.
Wow! Is that fight coming off. I favor Coture. If Coture wins which I think he will how about Fedor Coture?

[Sister Sledge]

It would be fun to watch until Brock taps out.

[BewareofDawg]

Yup, it was also ridiculous when Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson or syaing Tarver was gonna beat the great Roy Jones, or that a blown up lightweight in BJ Penn could beat the naturally bigger and stronger man in Matt Hughes, but we all seen what happened. Fedor is human. And lets not forget he had a hard time with mark hunt, who isn't even a skilled grappler like Brock, brock can do everything hunt did that night and better.
Ok then I'm saying Mike Whitehead can beat Fedor.....ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN!!! oooh this game is fun isn't it :yep Awesome thread!

[Dostoevsky]

The Couture vs Lesnar debates are coming. This is just the calm before the storm. In fact - we are thinking of having a forum wide avatar bet on that fight.

Get ready for the tidal wave of Lesnar vs Fedor threads if and when Lesnar defeats Couture.

[Weber]

Yup, it was also ridiculous when Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson or syaing Tarver was gonna beat the great Roy Jones, or that a blown up lightweight in BJ Penn could beat the naturally bigger and stronger man in Matt Hughes, but we all seen what happened. Fedor is human. And lets not forget he had a hard time with mark hunt, who isn't even a skilled grappler like Brock, brock can do everything hunt did that night and better.
Human? Fuck no, Fedor is pretty obviously some sort of cyborg, sent by the russians to destroy MMA:

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[Beebs]

Well it good be a very interesting matchup because of the option of Brock choosing to stand and fight.

Here's an thought that intererests me: Lesnar trying to stall and Brawl, because he could almost certainly stop the takedown, and seems to have big natural power. He's outclassed totally in terms of technique, but hey, its a thought.

Also, If Lesnar does go for a takedown or Fedor tries and fails and has to pull guard like he did with Choi (never understood why he went for that same takedown when all Choi had to do was lean forward). Lesnar has better GnP than Choi, and could concievably do enough damage quick enough to get a stoppage.

Of course my prediction for the fight will be Fedor by sub the bottom, his sub game is incredibly underrated if thats possible.

[ufoalf]

Dude seriously...

Here's Fedor vs Lesnar stand up fight reenactment.

Go to 0:45...

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[Action]

There should be no contest. But strange things happen in the ring or cage.
I am one who also believes that Anderson Silva could knock out Roy Jones Jr. in a boxing match.

[Rico Spadafora]

There should be no contest. But strange things happen in the ring or cage.
I am one who also believes that Anderson Silva could knock out Roy Jones Jr. in a boxing match.

With Roy's Glass Jaw there is no doubt Silva could KO him.

[Beebs]

Dude seriously...

Here's Fedor vs Lesnar stand up fight reenactment

Just saying, it might be his best shot, people have landed punches on Fedor, Brock seems to have huge power, and definitely has the takedown defense.

[ufoalf]

Just saying, it might be his best shot, people have landed punches on Fedor, Brock seems to have huge power, and definitely has the takedown defense.

He's more like Valuev. Clubbing power. I think he's best shot would be taking Fedor down and laying on him.

[PUMPERG]

I personelly think that Brock gots what it takes to give him a run for his money after 2 more fights. He gots the size , his wrestling is good, his ground and pound is good to, I would love to see this.

[coog]

Who knows

[TheChamp1000]

With Roy's Glass Jaw there is no doubt Silva could KO him.

If roy is just standing there waiting to take a hit a lot of people can knock him out. Hitting a moving Roy is a different matter.
Roy would ko Silva easily in a boxing match.

[19king88]

!!!!!!fedor

[Dynamite Kid]

Who wins this fight if it ever happens? I'd like to see this as well, it would be interesting to see if Brocks strength and athletic qualities, along with the natural talent and improvements he's made would be enough to end Fedors reign.

Nope Fedor takes this. Either 1st or 2nd round sub or KO. He has to many yrs of training and experience to have his reign ended by a hype show.

[Dynamite Kid]

There should be no contest. But strange things happen in the ring or cage.
I am one who also believes that Anderson Silva could knock out Roy Jones Jr. in a boxing match.

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