Alltime Flyweight rankings

[WhataRock]

Im a bit bored, going to bang this one up off the top of my head.

1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Pascual Perez
3. Pancho Villa
4. Benny Lynch
5. Miguel Canto
6. Frankie Genaro
7. Fidel LaBarba
8. Horacio Accavallo
9. Mark Johnson
10. Pone Kingpetch

Tossed up putting Peter Kane and Midget Wolgast in there but I dont know it was a quick one.
Ohba, Burruni and Chinoi deserve a mention
I dont know where to rate Coulon at flyweight, cause it kind of didnt exist when he was fighting and he did a lot more work at bantam.

[Sweet Pea]

I'd rate Canto higher, as I think his Flyweight career surpassed that of Perez personally. Also, I think a guy like Ebihara should be in there ahead of Johnson and Kingpetch. Arbachakov you could argue over a guy like Johnson as well.

[McGrain]

And you can definitely add Midget Wolgast, he shouldn't be lower than 7 on that list. I think he was a better fighter than Wilde, peak for peak, personally.

[WhataRock]

Actually hadnt heard of Ebihara till today Sweet Pea..

I was checking Kingpetch's record to make sure I spelt his name correct and there he was, good record sure there is a space there for him.

Also where do you put Coulon? Fly, bantem, the all time greatest paperweight champ, was hoping someone can could me some advice on that

[teeto]

Its a good list, i personally would have Canto just above Perez though.

[WhataRock]

And you can definitely add Midget Wolgast, he shouldn't be lower than 7 on that list. I think he was a better fighter than Wilde, peak for peak, personally.

I found this list just now. Looking for something to compare my quick knock up list to.


Jimmy Wilde
Pancho Villa
Pascual Perez
Fidel LaBarba
Benny Lynch
Frankie Genaro
Miguel Canto
Ricardo Lopez
Midget Wolgast
Peter Kane
Pone Kingpetch
Fighting Harada
Jimmy Barry
Johnny Buff
Horacio Accavallo
Masao Ohba
Humberto Gonzalez
Johnny Coulon
Jung-Koo Chang
Michael Carbajal Interesting that they add Lopez to a flyweight list. And other jnr flys such as Carabajal, Chiquita Gonzalez & Chang are there to.

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Never knew the International Boxing Research Organization existed.

[Sweet Pea]

Actually hadnt heard of Ebihara till today Sweet Pea..

I was checking Kingpetch's record to make sure I spelt his name correct and there he was, good record sure there is a space there for him.

Also where do you put Coulon? Fly, bantem, the all time greatest paperweight chamo, was hoping someone can could me some advice on thatYou should take into account with Ebihara that he likely holds two wins over Kingpetch, as the rematch was a robbery by all accounts after blitzing him in their first fight.

As for Coulon, I don't know exactly where to rate him. He's generally rated higher at Bantamweight, even if he did fight under that limit quite a bit. His record is outstanding, but I'd have to do a bit more research on him on order to see where he stands on an all time list, as the lack of footage and the general era in which he fought is an issue when ranking for me.

[Sweet Pea]

I found this list just now. Looking for something to compare my quick knock up list to.


Jimmy Wilde
Pancho Villa
Pascual Perez
Fidel LaBarba
Benny Lynch
Frankie Genaro
Miguel Canto
Ricardo Lopez
Midget Wolgast
Peter Kane
Pone Kingpetch
Fighting Harada
Jimmy Barry
Johnny Buff
Horacio Accavallo
Masao Ohba
Humberto Gonzalez
Johnny Coulon
Jung-Koo Chang
Michael Carbajal Interesting that they add Lopez to a flyweight list. And other jnr flys such as Carabajal, Chiquita Gonzalez & Chang are there to.

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Never knew the International Boxing Research Organization existed.Chang should rate well higher if we're considering all fighters under Lightweight. In league with Lopez IMO, easily better than the likes of Carbajal and Gonzalez. Harada in a head to head sense rates extremely highly as well.

[sweet_scientist]

Never knew the International Boxing Research Organization existed.

If that list is any indication, you were none the poorer for it.

[McGrain]

If that list is any indication, you were none the poorer for it.

:lol: :yep

[sweet_scientist]

:lol: :yep

Kingpetch over Harada for me pretty much guarantees that boxrec's in effect. :good

[WhataRock]

If that list is any indication, you were none the poorer for it.

Some of their rankings seem quite interesting...Wilfredo Gomez is not mentioned in either the feather or bantem lists, nor is even mentioned in the "just missing the cuts list""..

Monzon no5 at middleweight....

Sure there is more..

Jofre no15 at feather :think ? Why because he beat Saldivar who pretty much came out of retirement after losing his title, what was it.. 3 years earlier.

[sweet_scientist]

Kingpetch over Harada for me pretty much guarantees that boxrec's in effect. :good


And the fact that Hiroyuki Ebihara doesn't even make the list (really beat Kingpetch twice - once WIDE on points, once in a first round KO) CONFIRMS that it is the International Boxrec Organisation. :D

[McGrain]

I'm guilty of underating Ebihara too. Some fighters just slip through the cracks, I guess, and footage can be a little hard to come by. Then again, I wouldn't put up a top 20 list and cliam to be an authority.

[WhataRock]

And the fact that Hiroyuki Ebihara doesn't even make the list (really beat Kingpetch twice - once WIDE on points, once in a first round KO) CONFIRMS that it is the International Boxrec Organisation. :D

Was the 2nd Harada fight controversial?

[sweet_scientist]

Was the 2nd Harada fight controversial?

Harada should have got the nod both times against Pone, as should have Ebihara. I haven't met anyone that has seen the fights that has thought otherwise.

I thought Ebihara beat Accavallo in the rematch as well, though that was a fight that could probably have gone either way.

[sweet_scientist]

I'm guilty of underating Ebihara too. Some fighters just slip through the cracks, I guess, and footage can be a little hard to come by. Then again, I wouldn't put up a top 20 list and cliam to be an authority.

Yeah, we all have oversights and lack knowledge to some degree. It's ok so long as we admit it. :good

[Mantequilla]

I'ev always got the feeling a lot of the ibro have slipped into a comfort zone regarding seeking out new fights and don't know shit about the lower weights.

Which in the case of a typical fan is fine, but really for those proclaiming to be "historians" and often holding votes for the HOF, it's a bit more worrying.

[McGrain]

I'ev always got the feeling a lot of the ibro have slipped into a comfort zone regarding seeking out new fights and don't know shit about the lower weights.

Which in the case of a typical fan is fine, but really for those proclaiming to be "historians" and often holding votes for the HOF, it's a bit more worrying.

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