View Full Version : Is Pac Wasting His Peak Years?
It seems like to me like Pac may be wasting time. He has never looked as good as the 3rd fight with Morrales, and his style is only good for a couple more years. It seems at this point that he should be fighting Guzman, Marquez, Valero, Soto etc. Those fights would do more for his legacy than Barrera at this point.
I just get the feeling that in a couple of years when he slows down we are going to look back over the end of his career with Arum and think that it was a waste to some degree.
I dont have a huge problem with him facing Barrera, but after that he should stay more busy and go straight for more big fights.
hooligan
08-02-2007, 12:33 PM
are you a sadist? cut the guy some slack...if he rushes fight after fight he might get burned quickly...
After defeating Barrera, he should face the Guzman-Soto winner or Marquez-Barrios winner.
The Italarican
08-02-2007, 12:38 PM
Barrera is not a waste by any stretch of the imagination. He was still in most people's list of top fighters pound for pound before the Marquez bout. Even now, he's ahead of Soto, Valero, etc.
retriever
08-02-2007, 12:39 PM
She?
brooklyn1550
08-02-2007, 12:41 PM
He should beat Barrera again, but if he doesn't rematch Marquez or fight the winner of Guzman/Soto, then I would say he isn't being too smart with his prime years.
She?
fixed, thanks. :lol: i should've left it so y'all could freak on me
PATSYS
08-02-2007, 12:45 PM
It seems like to me like Pac may be wasting time. He has never looked as good as the 3rd fight with Morrales, and his style is only good for a couple more years. It seems at this point that he should be fighting Guzman, Marquez, Valero, Soto etc. Those fights would do more for his legacy than Barrera at this point.
I just get the feeling that in a couple of years when he slows down we are going to look back over the end of his career with Arum and think that it was a waste to some degree.
I dont have a huge problem with him facing Barrera, but after that he should stay more busy and go straight for more big fights.
I think yes.
Instead of him fighting Larios and Solis, he should have already fought JMM and Guzman.
boxbox
08-02-2007, 01:35 PM
i think he's phasing just fine...this gives opportunity for the others to upgrade their market value, and then when its ripe for the picking, money will come pouring.
are you a sadist? cut the guy some slack...if he rushes fight after fight he might get burned quickly...
No Im not, and Im not really criticizing him. I think he would fight all these guys on the same night. Im more critical of the way he is being managed. He is not a safety first fighter and his type of style has a historically short duration.
i think he's phasing just fine...this gives opportunity for the others to upgrade their market value, and then when its ripe for the picking, money will come pouring.
Thats a good point, they better get busy though. I thought some of these fights would have already come off by now.
JC2006
08-02-2007, 07:40 PM
I'm not too thrilled about him fighting Barrera again but at least MAB gets a chance to avenge that loss. He'll still lose though.
I want to see Pac/JMM 2.
mad_takamura
08-02-2007, 10:10 PM
are you a sadist? cut the guy some slack...if he rushes fight after fight he might get burned quickly... cool pic me and my friends had a good laugh at that one!:rofl :rofl :rofl saved it here on my pc!
Fedor Em
08-02-2007, 10:13 PM
Hell no he isn't. If he beats Barrera (which I think he will and I am a huge Barrera fan), he will fight the winner of Barrios/JMM, Valero, Soto, or Guzman next. Mark my words. Come on Pac's opposition has been one of the best in boxing over the last 5 years.
PATSYS
08-03-2007, 12:01 AM
Actually it is Roach who always wanted a lesser opposition for Pac.
Can't blame him, he is just looking after his ward.
Thinman
08-03-2007, 03:14 AM
A lot of elite fighters now-a-days can be accused of squandering their primes away by fighting only once or twice a year. It's sad really because it robs the fans of a lot of great matchups that can be made while these guys are at their peaks, but what are you gonna do about it? They get paid more for the less often they fight, so for now it looks like we're stuck with this trend until someone breaks the mold.
You are absolutely right. What it bothers me the most is the fact that some of the so called boxing fans say.... "such and such boxer don't deserve a shot" ..... meaning, the champ doesn't have to face them because they are a bunch of nobodies. :patsch
Thinman
08-03-2007, 03:30 AM
i think you're partially correct
Nothing is 100%, but I believe you understood what I meant. Your comment tells me that you understood very well what I was trying to say, and I am glad you did. :yep :good
psychopath
08-03-2007, 07:36 AM
It seems like to me like Pac may be wasting time. He has never looked as good as the 3rd fight with Morrales, and his style is only good for a couple more years. It seems at this point that he should be fighting Guzman, Marquez, Valero, Soto etc. Those fights would do more for his legacy than Barrera at this point.
I just get the feeling that in a couple of years when he slows down we are going to look back over the end of his career with Arum and think that it was a waste to some degree.
I dont have a huge problem with him facing Barrera, but after that he should stay more busy and go straight for more big fights.
Yup after this fight . . . he's got to take care of real business. Can't blame him or Arum . . . they'll both earn big bucks from this fight. And besides he's got to prove that the earllier win is not a fluke.
doknochrisan
08-03-2007, 07:39 AM
No, he beat 1. MAB
2. Velasquez
3. Larios
4. Morales(2x)
5. Solis
Drew with 1. JMM
Is that worse than winning over 1. JMM
2. Guzman/Sotto
3. Valero
in the coming years? Do you think he would be p4p #2 if its the other way around? Or yet better?
psychopath
08-03-2007, 07:56 AM
No, he beat 1. MAB
2. Velasquez
3. Larios
4. Morales(2x)
5. Solis
Drew with 1. JMM
Is that worse than winning over 1. JMM
2. Guzman/Sotto
3. Valero
in the coming years? Do you think he would be p4p #2 if its the other way around? Or yet better?
Bro . . . Bro . . . bro . . . Velasquez, Larios and Solis is a waste of time, don't you realized that? :D These are just "stay busy" fights . . . and has contributed nothing to improve Pac's stature.
doknochrisan
08-03-2007, 08:05 AM
ok let me put it this way, it was really during the barrera fight that he was appreciated, what do you think would be the outcome if he fought JMM first and say won there, then took on guzman and then valero, now take out Barrera and EM out of the picture, do you think he'd be there after PBF?
etong_08
08-03-2007, 09:06 AM
One step at a time, bro.
After Barrera, he can have either GUzman, Marquez, or even Valero by next year... Well, let's just pray for it. :)
knockout
08-03-2007, 09:30 AM
No his not hes just taking his time,no need to be war-torn so quickly.
SugarShane_24
08-03-2007, 11:25 AM
Well, in a way he does.
But choosing opponents is not really everything to blame.
There's a lot of time that was took up by politics and showbiz. That leaves him rusty and sometimes ill prepared in some of his fights he should be grateful he got through, like the Larios and Solis fights. It's his fault, but sometimes you can't blame a guy trying to maximize his earning potential as he has been living so poorly in his teens.
What are you talking about:huh
The guy cameup from al the way at 106lbs to KO the cream of 126/130lbs
He should pick and choose his last fights and he is past his peak
Past his peak? Analysis please?
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