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Scorpion
10-11-2008, 03:41 PM
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Here is a video where Crocop was defending Minotauro back in he old days.

chuffy
10-11-2008, 04:45 PM
That's good of Crocop to do that, not many people would. Thanks for posting the video Scorpion

Scorpion
10-11-2008, 10:21 PM
That's good of Crocop to do that, not many people would. Thanks for posting the video Scorpion

No problem.

scurlaruntings
10-12-2008, 07:54 AM
This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect. ALL PRIDE fighters and most of all the fans had respect for martial arts.And a great profound respect for the sport. Dam i miss PRIDE..

boxingcar
10-12-2008, 09:44 AM
I miss Pride & i especially miss THAT crocop... I wanna see the guy from the 2002-2005 era... But i guess you can't go back in time and & pretend as if nothing has changed...fighters change...organisations change too...the sport changes..

Crocop looked like shit in his latest fight but it's not even a surprise anymore. I guess the only thing that could potentially redeem his career would be a top notch performance vs overeem (in a rematch) , & a victory over fedor...or at least a superb performance...but it's not likely to happen.

Still , not a lot of fighters are like them...(pride fighters) , it's stupid to label them as pride fighters because orgs don't create fighters...But pride fc really used to be something special... They're trying to regrab that magic in DREAM but it's not the same...

It's not their fault though...they lost too many big names to begin with...But i have high expectations for NYE. Because from what i understand , it'll be a K1's Heros + dream co production. (so it's supposed to be huge).

Nuke
10-12-2008, 10:54 AM
from what i understand , it'll be a K1's Heros + dream co production. (so it's supposed to be huge).


Yea and thats the big difference betweenthe UFC and every other promotion in the world. They will cross promote and the UFC will NEVER do that.

Beebs
10-12-2008, 12:32 PM
This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect. ALL PRIDE fighters and most of all the fans had respect for martial arts.And a great profound respect for the sport. Dam i miss PRIDE..

How about the "sportsmanship" were they paid rampage to lose by submission?

Where cheated Rulon Gardner out of most of his purse?


Where they CLEARLY WORKED fights?

Respect my ass.

scurlaruntings
10-12-2008, 06:21 PM
How about the "sportsmanship" were they paid rampage to lose by submission?

Where cheated Rulon Gardner out of most of his purse?


Where they CLEARLY WORKED fights?

Respect my ass.Ya[Only registered and activated users can see links] What on earth has that got to do with the sportsmanship and respect between fighters? :roll:

Beebs
10-12-2008, 07:27 PM
Oh and UFC fighters NEVER respect each other right? Fuck off with your Pride tinted glasses, almost all MMA fighters respect each other.

And the pride fans never boo'd, never showed disrespect right?

scurlaruntings
10-13-2008, 05:34 AM
Oh and UFC fighters NEVER respect each other right? Fuck off with your Pride tinted glasses, almost all MMA fighters respect each other.

And the pride fans never boo'd, never showed disrespect right?Whats that got to do with the price of fish? Your a GRADE A cretin and always on some bloated crack pipe. You dont like my opinion dont fucking read it its as simple as that.

Beebs
10-13-2008, 08:29 AM
This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect. ALL PRIDE fighters and most of all the fans had respect for martial arts.And a great profound respect for the sport. Dam i miss PRIDE..

Oh and UFC fighters NEVER respect each other right? Fuck off with your Pride tinted glasses, almost all MMA fighters respect each other.

And the pride fans never boo'd, never showed disrespect right?

Whats that got to do with the price of fish? Your a GRADE A cretin and always on some bloated crack pipe. You dont like my opinion dont fucking read it its as simple as that.

If your opinion is that only Pride fighters respect each other, as it pretty clearly is, than you are a fucking retard, period.

Dostoevsky
10-13-2008, 08:38 AM
If your opinion is that only Pride fighters respect each other, as it pretty clearly is, than you are a fucking retard, period.
Lets not forget several instance of Pride fighters behaving very disrespectfully, such as Rampage-Wanderlei showdown at Pride 25, or Chute Boxe vs Hammer House fiasco in the ring and backstage or the recently posted video of Krazy Horse and chute boxe fighting or Gomi attacking Azerado after he was knocked out or Gilbert Yvel's antics.

So much to name. Infact I reckon there have been more instances of disgusting disrespectful behaviour that has damaged MMA in Pride than there has ever been in the UFC.

So Scurla is seriously wrong on all accounts, forgetting his MMA history and letting bias cloud his judgement and seep into opinion.

scurlaruntings
10-13-2008, 08:57 AM
If your opinion is that only Pride fighters respect each other, as it pretty clearly is, than you are a fucking retard, period.O yes of course because thats what i said wasnt it? A statement that i made that was ENTIRELY subjective on the merit of CC and Nog and you`ve taken this an absolute right across the board. And im the one who`s a retard? Its abundantly clear from your skewed reasoning who the retard is. Now like iv said already jackass if you dont like an opinion dont read it. Its really that simple. Now fuck off back to Sherdog.

Beebs
10-13-2008, 09:08 AM
O yes of course because thats what i said wasnt it?

yes, yes it was

This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect.

See? Thats what you said.

A statement that i made that was ENTIRELY subjective on the merit of CC and Nog and you`ve taken this an absolute right across the board.

This isn't across the board?

This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect.

So keep those japophile pride colored glasses on, keep looking like an idiot.

scurlaruntings
10-13-2008, 09:09 AM
Lets not forget several instance of Pride fighters behaving very disrespectfully, such as Rampage-Wanderlei showdown at Pride 25, or Chute Boxe vs Hammer House fiasco in the ring and backstage or the recently posted video of Krazy Horse and chute boxe fighting or Gomi attacking Azerado after he was knocked out or Gilbert Yvel's antics.

So much to name. Infact I reckon there have been more instances of disgusting disrespectful behaviour that has damaged MMA in Pride than there has ever been in the UFC.

So Scurla is seriously wrong on all accounts, forgetting his MMA history and letting bias cloud his judgement and seep into opinion.What you mean the ones that YOU know about and that your aware of? None of this has ANYTHING to do with the price of fish. Beebs being the usual obtuse cunt that he is is digging for a point that has no importance whatsoever to thread or to the video. Of course my opinion is subjective as a PRIDE fan. The respect was there between fans and fighters. If you want to contest a statement that is far from an absolute thats entirely your perogative being the nature of a DISCUSSION FORUM. Beebs on the other hand being the usual UFC fratboy isnt capable of rationale and immediately has to resort antagnoism and name calling. Pretty much defines the word cunt in my eyes. Beebs = Cunt. Everyone happy now :roll:

Beebs
10-13-2008, 09:14 AM
What you mean the ones that YOU know about and that your aware of? None of this has ANYTHING to do with the price of fish. Beebs being the usual obtuse cunt that he is is digging for a point that has no importance whatsoever to thread or to the video. Of course my opinion is subjective as a PRIDE fan. The respect was there between fans and fighters. If you want to contest a statement that is far from an absolute thats entirely your perogative being the nature of a DISCUSSION FORUM. Beebs on the other hand being the usual UFC fratboy isnt capable of rationale and immediately has to resort antagnoism and name calling. Pretty much defines the word cunt in my eyes. Beebs = Cunt. Everyone happy now :roll:

This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect.

This is a pretty clear statement, pointing out that pride, had just as much, and much likely MORE disrespect than the UFC, is completely valid.

When you say This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect.

You should be prepared to realize that it is not fucking true, period.

Beebs
10-13-2008, 09:25 AM
No, nothing for This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect.?

I'm still the one taking things across the board?

This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect.
Never have respect? You think that not one time, past, present, or future, that any UFC representative in any way, shape, or form, will ever respect another?

AJAX
10-13-2008, 02:51 PM
Let him cry over Pride and re-watch old videos then come on here and says "i miss pride". life hasn't been the same for him, It's time to see Dr. Phil.

scurlaruntings
10-13-2008, 04:27 PM
You still on Dana`s payroll?

Beebs
10-13-2008, 04:33 PM
No, but when you say "the UFC will never have respect", don't call me an idiot for pointing out how stupid that statement is.

Not to mention BOTH fighters mentioned in the piece either are now or have recently fought in the UFC.

chimba
10-13-2008, 04:58 PM
Pride is dead guys..I used to love Pride..more than the UFC

but lets be honest they have a share of champs that will not do well in the UFC.. Shogun is one..I was watching his fight with Overeem and Arona..his stand up is so sloppy, he is a KO waiting to happen just like his brother.. His biggest weapon is his stomps,kicks.. without that ..hes pretty much average.

Fedor is great, Hendo is great..but Rampage might not be that successful in the UFC afterall...Wand is exciting but he will win one and lose one at this point.

But getting back to the topic..Crocop is class

codeman99998
10-13-2008, 06:13 PM
This is the one thing the UFC will NEVER have. And thats respect. ALL PRIDE fighters and most of all the fans had respect for martial arts.And a great profound respect for the sport. Dam i miss PRIDE..

I don't know man, there are plenty of examples of fighters in the UFC that are perfect gentlemen and sportsmen.

Bob Sapp was a pride fighter.

Let's not over analyze this. Props to Crocop though.

Polymath
10-13-2008, 07:21 PM
I think a big part of the reason Pride was so much classier was just that it was in Japan - the social etiquette demands you have to be fairly civilized over there. The knuckle dragging troglodytes who constitute a large portion of the the UFC's viewership are a western problem, really. Most other orgs. in western countries are as if not more scummy than the UFC.

sugarngold
10-13-2008, 10:30 PM
Crocop is a class act. Nogueira. Fedor. Barnett. Couture. The elite fighters of the game are fans of the sport and fans of each other.