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kurt2006
10-12-2008, 03:25 AM
Since Haye anounced he was stepping up to HW a few of us talked of a Sam fight. It would have been easy for Haye to have beaten fat Peter. Haye would have done a more brutal job than Vitali managed last night as he has more mobility.

A shame that Haye did not take the fight against Sam as he would have been a title and most certainly have then got a fight against Wlad.

Monte is more of a risk than fat Sam would have been.

Also why was Wlad wearing his WC belt :huh Is it normal to walk around with a WC belt around your waist ?

T.C.W
10-12-2008, 03:32 AM
sam can punch and he has done a hell of alot more than Monte, like won a title and beaten world class fighters

kurt2006
10-12-2008, 03:35 AM
He is just a fat ass obese piece of lard. He may have won more than Monte but in terms of ability and skill Monte is far more blessed.

Haye would have taken Sam out within 6 rounds. He would have had a WC belt and made some decent money from a few defences before facing Wlad. There is no way he will beat Wlad and that will be the end of his big paydays.

madpup
10-12-2008, 03:48 AM
For fucks sake, this is beyond a joke. He 'would have done a much more brutal job than Vitaly??' How on earth do you know that? Haye hasnt done anything at heavyweight yet, and there are still big question marks, lets see how he does against Barrett first.

I like Haye, but this kind of nuthigging is absolutely ridiculous.

kurt2006
10-12-2008, 03:51 AM
For fucks sake, this is beyond a joke. He 'would have done a much more brutal job than Vitaly??' How on earth do you know that? Haye hasnt done anything at heavyweight yet, and there are still big question marks, lets see how he does against Barrett first.

I like Haye, but this kind of nuthigging is absolutely ridiculous.

The key is in movement young man, Vitalis movement has declined a bit since he pissed all over Danny Williams and he gave Sam a complete schooling. Haye would have too much speed and skill for Peter to handle. A few times Vit caught and stunned fat Sam but did not go in for the kill. Haye would have jumped on Sam and KO'd the fat piece of lard.

As for nuthugging I think if you read my post it states There is no way he will beat Wlad and that will be the end of his big paydays. If I wanted to nuthug I would write that Haye could destroy Wlad and Vitali.

Diablo
10-12-2008, 07:13 AM
The key is in movement young man, Vitalis movement has declined a bit since he pissed all over Danny Williams and he gave Sam a complete schooling. Haye would have too much speed and skill for Peter to handle. A few times Vit caught and stunned fat Sam but did not go in for the kill. Haye would have jumped on Sam and KO'd the fat piece of lard.

As for nuthugging I think if you read my post it states If I wanted to nuthug I would write that Haye could destroy Wlad and Vitali.

Vitali makes people look bad with his stand up, lean back, and counter style. So dont assume Haye would have such an easy time.

Sam would have a better chance to land on the smaller Haye..and what would happen if he did? :!:zzZzzz

kurt2006
10-12-2008, 08:27 AM
Vitali makes people look bad with his stand up, lean back, and counter style. So dont assume Haye would have such an easy time.

Sam would have a better chance to land on the smaller Haye..and what would happen if he did? :!:zzZzzz

Sae would not land on Haye, the guy looked as if he needed a zimmer frame to get around the ring last night. Can you imagine such a fat slow fool facing Haye. DH would dance circles round him.

Diablo
10-12-2008, 10:18 AM
Sae would not land on Haye, the guy looked as if he needed a zimmer frame to get around the ring last night. Can you imagine such a fat slow fool facing Haye. DH would dance circles round him.

Yeah Sam is slow and iv never rated him...but he could actually reach Haye in an exchange.

Lets wait and see how haye looks at heavyweight...before you assume hes better than Vitali

kurt2006
10-12-2008, 10:34 AM
Yeah Sam is slow and iv never rated him...but he could actually reach Haye in an exchange.

Lets wait and see how haye looks at heavyweight...before you assume hes better than Vitali

I have never said he is better than Vitali. I think he does not stand a chance against Vitali but did against Peter. Thats why when offered the Peter fight he should have taken it for even a low payday.

Haye could outbox Peter from the outside and not need to tie up with him. A few bombs and Peter would have quit and Haye would have been WBC beltholder. A shame he declined the fight.

Diablo
10-12-2008, 10:59 AM
I have never said he is better than Vitali. I think he does not stand a chance against Vitali but did against Peter. Thats why when offered the Peter fight he should have taken it for even a low payday.

Haye could outbox Peter from the outside and not need to tie up with him. A few bombs and Peter would have quit and Haye would have been WBC beltholder. A shame he declined the fight.

Its a shame if he declined it. But I dont believe the fight was even offered. Peter won the title from Oleg then was forced to face Vitali by the WBC. Maloney talks shit.

kurt2006
10-12-2008, 12:40 PM
Its a shame if he declined it. But I dont believe the fight was even offered. Peter won the title from Oleg then was forced to face Vitali by the WBC. Maloney talks shit.

Its not just Maloney, even Bunce mentioned it and Haye has not denied it to date.

You are right though, Maloney talks a pile of shit, on the Bunce show he said something along the lines of Peter being exciting etc etc. Don't know what he has been watching for the last few years but fat ass Peter has never been exciting.

Benjiabc
10-12-2008, 04:51 PM
Since Haye anounced he was stepping up to HW a few of us talked of a Sam fight. It would have been easy for Haye to have beaten fat Peter. Haye would have done a more brutal job than Vitali managed last night as he has more mobility.

A shame that Haye did not take the fight against Sam as he would have been a title and most certainly have then got a fight against Wlad.

Monte is more of a risk than fat Sam would have been.

Also why was Wlad wearing his WC belt :huh Is it normal to walk around with a WC belt around your waist ?


a fight between haye and peter would of been completely different to the one last night, vitali used his sheer height and reach advnatge to just jab and counter peter all night. haye wouldnt have much of a reach advantage if any over peter, despite peter not being very mobile he would still have a much better chance against haye because he would be there to hit rather then hiding behind a jab, however hayes sheer speed would still have been the key as he would stop peter late, but peter has a far greater chance of a KO against haye thats for sure

555east
10-13-2008, 01:10 AM
it's too bad that Vitali had the guaranteed crack at Peter

as Haye/Peter woulda been better to see

*so who does Haye go for after Barrett? Vitali?

icemax
10-13-2008, 03:30 AM
Vitali makes people look bad with his stand up, lean back, and counter style.

Its not a style it is an aberration. Vitali moves back in straight lines with his chin in the air for fucks sake. Any half decent heavyweight with a bit of a chin, a bit of pop and ,most importantly, mobility would have Vitali for breakfast. Fighters like Frazier, Foreman and Ali must be thinking of coming out of retirement after the chin up performance that Vitali put on on Saturday.

MightyLondoner
10-13-2008, 11:27 AM
i'd like to see vitali keep his hands that low against haye!

Max Molyneux
10-13-2008, 03:31 PM
Vitali took a Lennox Lewis uppercu. Haye's reckless overhand right will lose It's pop when he has to reach up against someone as tall as Vitali.

Haye drops his hands low too, Vitali has better timing, height and reach to be more effective at doing this.

Haye should of fought someone like Peter, he doesn't need tune ups If he can shit talk so bad.

icemax
10-13-2008, 04:22 PM
i'd like to see vitali keep his hands that low against haye!
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