View Full Version : Joe Calzaghe v Chad Dawson?
D-MAC
10-12-2008, 12:37 PM
This is a fight that could well happen down the line.
A fight with Dawson would the toughest test out there for Joe. This is no knee-jerk reaction from myself, following on from Dawson's impressive display against Tarver in the early hours of this morning. Ever since Calzaghe defeated Kessler and started eyeing the LHW division, I have thought that Dawson would be his hardest possible fight.
Dawson had a tough old time of it against Glen Johnson, but who doesn't?
Dawson's youth, speed, natural LHW power, killer jab, sneaky lead right hook, footwork and excellent body attack could well be too much for Joe to handle. He also showed improved defence against Tarver; after getting clipped with a couple of big lefts early on he began to keep his right hand up whenever he was within punching range, thereby negating Tarver's key weapon. Dawson's own punches were often blocked by Tarver, too often in fact, but even those that landed on the gloves had a secondary impact that travelled through the gloves into the face.
However, despite showing good stamina against Tarver, there is the possibility that Joe could outhustle him over the 12 rounds and take a decision.
Calzaghe is a formidable ring general, who usually imposes his will on an opponent and is great at dictating the pace of a fight to suit himself. Yet Dawson has shown excellent ring-craft himself.
There have been questions asked regarding Dawson's chin, but I don't believe that Joe would have the power at LHW to seriously hurt him.
Dawson throws his punches with authority and they have real snap on them, as opposed to Calzaghe who's punch technique often isn't that great (we all know about his bad hands).
I lean towards Dawson by decision. I don't think he will blow Joe away, but his extra speed (I would say Chad is superior in this department, though Joe is no slouch) and power will keep Joe honest for the duration.
What about the rest of you?
mike464
10-12-2008, 12:53 PM
Dawson by UD but the fight would never happen.
Decebal
10-12-2008, 01:12 PM
The fight will never happen. If Calzaghe takes it, though, he TKOs Dawson by the half-way point: Calzaghe hurts Dawson, Dawson goes into zombie mode, Calzaghe slaps the shit out of him. :good
Calzaghe on points.
He still has enough left to beat Dawson, who lets not forget had all he could handle with Glen Johnson in his last fight. Tarver was there to be beat and i believe his victory over Woods flattered him a bit.
Calzaghe would take this competitively on points.
I see Joe adapting at some point to Dawson's handspeed and jab, and having seen the Johnson fight he'll know to use his pressure/swarming mode. This takes advantage of the periods of inactivity Dawson tends to have, and got away with against the old man Tarver, and also his stamina is questionable.
Calzaghe pulls away late.
D-MAC
10-12-2008, 01:52 PM
Dawson by UD but the fight would never happen.
I hear ya:good
Possible but not probable.
Kind of a high risk/low reward fight for Joe at this stage.
I would love it if the fight did come off though.
FLINT ISLAND
10-12-2008, 02:26 PM
I missed the Dawson fight
I knew he wan clear on the cards though
Did he dominate Tarver?
BIG WORM
10-12-2008, 02:31 PM
tarver dawson was pretty boring, dawson just outboxed him with quicker hands and better punches
i think calzaghe would beat dawson
D-MAC
10-12-2008, 03:10 PM
I missed the Dawson fight
I knew he wan clear on the cards though
Did he dominate Tarver?
It was pretty even over the first six; Dawson maybe edged it.
In the second half Dawson pretty much dominated; it was a clear win for Chad.
robpalmer135
10-12-2008, 03:50 PM
I missed the Dawson fight
I knew he wan clear on the cards though
Did he dominate Tarver?
he didn't dominate in the calzaghe vs lacy sense. but he clearly won the fight and it was quite comfortable.
GazOC
10-12-2008, 03:53 PM
The fight won't happen. I'd take JC if it did though, I thought Tarver was shot after the Woods fight.
Claypole
10-12-2008, 04:08 PM
Even after watching him beat Tarver, I don't reckon Dawson's stamina is that great. He looked good in spurts but took too many breaks and allowed Tarver more success than he should have.
Dawson wouldn't get a moments rest against Joe. He would start well but lose it in the last third of the fight. I would love to see this fight, though.
FLINT ISLAND
10-12-2008, 04:08 PM
The fight won't happen. I'd take JC if it did though, I thought Tarver was shot after the Woods fight.
:huh
why?
I thought he handled Woods quite comfortably
Before that fight Woods was talking it up like he was going to do a job on Tarver
but at the end of the fight he was humbled by true world class ability
GazOC
10-12-2008, 04:10 PM
Woods was awful, Tarver was better. Thats all IMO.
FLINT ISLAND
10-12-2008, 04:11 PM
Woods was awful, Tarver was better. Thats all IMO.
There is no doubt that pound for pound Tarver is one of the biggest twats to ever step into a ring.....................
Gareth is correct. Woods was terrible. He looked like he got stage fright and/or got really really fucking old overnight.
Tarver did the same thing over and over, and it worked.
FLINT ISLAND
10-12-2008, 04:13 PM
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BIG WORM
10-12-2008, 04:18 PM
woods has a cemented boxing stlye,.. he couldnt turn it into a fight, he should have done more clinches
tarver would beat him everytime
mike464
10-12-2008, 05:38 PM
There is no doubt that pound for pound Tarver is one of the biggest twats to ever step into a ring.....................I agree!
Uppercut83
10-12-2008, 05:40 PM
Dawson points
Was impressed with Dawson's hand speed but was alarmed at his chin. Tarver landed a couple of half decent shots, one of which landed in the 12th and saw Dawson crawling towards the final bell when his overall performance was dominant. Fortunately for him Tarver didn't have any zip to his performance and couldn't capitalise on those rare occasions though. Joe on points
Max Molyneux
10-12-2008, 07:28 PM
A mismatch, Calzaghe by easy UD. Dawson Is troubled by Johnson's old man workrate, he wouldn't handle Joe's workrate and superior skill.
Dawson has a shaky jaw too.
Max Molyneux
10-12-2008, 07:31 PM
Tarver Is not that good, Wood's was under the illusion he was fighting a legend just because Tarver beat a shot Roy. He let Tarver beat him, Woods thinks If he's American and beat someone good, he will lose to them.
I can;t believe he let Tarver get away with calling him a hand picked opponent and letting Tarver say "look how pretty I am".
David UK
10-13-2008, 03:11 AM
Tarver has always been shite. To be honest Woods was a disgrace in their fight. Dawson looked quite good but was allowed to. Calzaghe has beaten better fighters than Dawson. Calzaghe points
achillesthegreat
10-13-2008, 03:29 AM
Calzaghe by UD or late stoppage. Dawson has got talent and tools but I fail to see a consistent approach through out. Against Tarver and others he will look amazing when opening up but then look like ordinary.
Calzaghe is too consistent over 12. He'll just keep touching him to head and body. Joe will be too awkward. He'll be catching Dawson with his head in the air. If Joe gets past Jones he could beat Dawson.
Fat Joe
10-13-2008, 03:51 AM
I don't think Dawson has enough power to trouble Calzaghe, and like TFFP said Dawson tends to have periods where he doesn't throw anything for a minute or two. Calzaghe would not give him any opportunity to do this.
madpup
10-13-2008, 04:46 AM
Even after watching him beat Tarver, I don't reckon Dawson's stamina is that great. He looked good in spurts but took too many breaks and allowed Tarver more success than he should have.
Dawson wouldn't get a moments rest against Joe. He would start well but lose it in the last third of the fight. I would love to see this fight, though.
Thats the way Dawson fights and thats his biggest weakness and I do think this what could be his downfall against Calzaghe, although in every other aspect, Dawson is a match for him right now.
Tony Harrison
10-13-2008, 06:27 AM
Tarver looked extremely lethargic in large parts of the fight, Dawson's body attack and movement slowed him right down but he seemed unable to capitalise on it. In spurts Dawson looked awsome but was clearly taking breathers - something Calzaghe won't allow him to do as others have stated.
Tarver is a strange fighter, he was never Grease Lightening but he looked totally past it against Dawson. He fought at a similar pace against Woods but got away with it due to Woods inexplicably poor performance. He was there for the taking and while Dawson did so convincingly it was no grounds to suggest he would beat Calzaghe.
Calzaghe would take a fairly competetive decision imo.
JediPimp007
10-13-2008, 08:09 AM
Calzaghe on points for me in this one. Still not convinced about Dawson and he can only fight in spurts, Calzaghe would be in his face all night throwing shots though. Dawson I thought looked good against Tarver, but Tarver himself was poor. He looked all 39 years of age after 6-7 rounds. A good couple of rounds of bodywork would have made sure he wouldn't have got up, he was exhausted and wasn't putting much of anything on his punches. This could be due to Dawson's bodywork, but I thought he didn't land that much due to Tarver excellent defense.
Just to add, Clinton will have watched that performance and cried, had he pressure Tarver and thrown shots I think he would have UD'd him or possibly stopped him late.
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