picks for upcoming fights?

[Benjiabc]

so who are you all picking for the upcoming fights


Hatton-Paulie
Haye-Barrett
Calzaghe-Jones
Pavlik-Hopkins
Taylor-Lacy
Pac-ODLH
Bute-Andrade


i will get it started

Hatton
Haye
Calzaghe
Hopkins
Taylor
ODLH
Bute

[TFFP]

Fatton - Faggi Undecided
Haye TKO
Calzaghe UD wide
Pavlik UD close
Taylor TKO
Pac - Panties Undecided
Bute UD close

[JonOli]

Last nights, old man V young man, result has changed my opinion on Pavlik-Hopkins. I'm not sure if it should really though as Popkins is a different kind of beast from Tarver.

[antcull]

Hatton UD
Haye TKO
Calzaghe easy UD
Bhop UD
Lacy TKO :yep
DLH KO
Bute UD

[GazOC]

Hatton
Haye
Calzaghe
Pavlik by KO (avatar bet with TFFP)
Taylor
Oscar
Bute

[TFFP]

Pavlik ain't as good as Dawson by a long way either. Different strengths of course, but Pavlik is facing a much worse stylistic matchup whereas Dawson held the advantage in his.

Still, I've changed my mind since that fight was first announced. I think Pavlik will just squeeze this out down the stretch, and even if he doesn't he'll probably get favored by the judges.

[Bonavena25]

Hatton
Haye
Jones
Hopkins
Taylor
Pacquiao
Andrade

[robpalmer135]

Malignaggi to stop Hatton
Haye to KO Barrett within 3
Jones to beat Calzaghe
Pavlik to draw with Hopkins
Taylor to beat Lacy
ODLH to beat pac
Bute-Andrade - couldnt care less.


froch to stop pascal late

i would still class pavlik ahead of dawson.

[D-MAC]

Hatton UD
Haye KO
Calzaghe UD
Pavlik UD
Taylor UD
De La Hoya KO
Andrade UD

The highlighted ones could change. I'm not 100% sure yet.

[Smith]

Doesn't really matter, Audrey Harrison would destroy them all anyway.

Hui-aaaaaaaa.

John Daniels please, because when you've known him as long as I have, you can call him what you want.

[D-MAC]

Malignaggi TO STOP Hatton
Haye to KO Barrett within 3
Jones to beat Calzaghe
Pavlik to draw with Hopkins
Taylor to beat Lacy
ODLH to beat pac
Bute-Andrade - couldnt care less.


froch to stop pascal late

i would still class pavlik ahead of dawson.

Thats a brave call rob. You really think Hatton is that far gone?

[Beeston Brawler]

Hatton-Paulie Hatton brutal KO
Haye-Barrett Haye mid round TKO
Calzaghe-Jones Calzaghe TKO late
Pavlik-Hopkins Hopkins close UD
Taylor-Lacy Taylor embarrassingly easy UD
Pac-ODLH DLH KO mid rounds
Bute-Andrade Bute wide UD

[icemax]

Hatton-Paulie Hatton found guilty of rape mid-rounds
Haye-Barrett Barrett anytime he connects properly
Calzaghe-Jones Jones KO (wishful thinking??)
Pavlik-Hopkins Pavlik wide UD or late stoppage
Taylor-Lacy Lacy by hail mary KO late on
Pac-ODLH DLH ODLH arrested for dwarf throwing
Bute-Andrade Don't know

[Tony Harrison]

I fancy Malignaggi to outpoint Hatton (I hope not as I don't like Paulie).
Haye to knock out Barrett with a few hairy moments beforehand.
Calzaghe to outpoint Jones in a thouroughly inconclusive affair.
Pavlik to finally be the man who catches up with B-Hop. KO.
Taylor will outbox Lacy comprehensively for a UD.
De la Hoya to beat Pac on points, KO if he lands his left hook flush early.
Bute - Andrade I dunno either.

[LiamE]

Hatton-Paulie Fatty Mclardy takes this one late stoppage or UD
Haye-Barrett It'll be like the matrix in there... Haye by KO rnds 3-5
Calzaghe-Jones Calzaghe UD
Pavlik-Hopkins Pavlik should have enough in the tank to do what Calzaghe did, but it wont be pretty. Ghost by narrow decision or late stoppage if he can tire out hops and hops isnt allowed to rub his balls for a 5 minute breather.
Taylor-Lacy Lacy looks to have fallen out of love with the game, but might well see this as his last chance at the big time. If Lacy is fully motivated he might well pull off the upset here. I wont be betting on this either way till much closer to the fight so I can see what sort of shape the guys look in. In the end though it wont matter as the winner will get hammered by Froch.
Pac-ODLH Ladyboy is too big. Panties by domination/KO
Bute-Andrade Andrade will be game as ever but Bute a bit too skilled. Bute on points.

[bored]

Hatton Late KO, If Malignaggi had some KO power I would go with him but Ricky all the way in this one.
Haye
Calzaghe, Calzaghe UD,
Pavlik-Hopkins, Pavlik, easy UD, Hopkins will tire earlier and this time the ref won't let Hopkins spend half an hour pretending to be hurt.
Taylor-Lacy, Taylor, UD
Pac-ODLH Pac SD. Bit of a risky prediction but Pac just seems to get better and better whilst DLH gets worse so why not.
Bute-Andrade, Bute UD.

[draw99]

Malignaggi SD
Haye KO 3
Calzaghe UD
Pavlik KO 10
Taylor UD
Pac SD
Bute UD

[robpalmer135]

Thats a brave call rob. You really think Hatton is that far gone?

i have said it from the day the fight was suggested. its a mix of mallignaggi being under rated, hatton being over rated, hatton being over the hill and the fact mayweather is completley the wrong trainer for ricky, and mallignaggi being completey the wrong sort of fighter for ricky.

hatton will try and boxer one of the worlds best boxers, and be out classed in the first 4. he will revert back to type which will work for a round or so but then mallignaggi will just up the pace and start picking shots. Hatton will cut and the fight will go to scorecars will mallignaggi way ahead. (in my eyes that counts as a stoppage)

mallignaggi is the best light welter hatton has faced, apart from kostya.

[GazOC]

If Paulie didn't have his image and the NY Italian American heritage no one would give a shit about him and he'd be back in the pack with the rest of the (not so hot) contenders at 140. Based on what he's actually done, who he's beat and how he's beat them I'd say he's overrated, not underrated.

[Beeston Brawler]

Interesting point Rob, but sorry I can't agree.

Paulie has been very hittable in his last two fights, and seems to have slowed - now whether that was due to a lack of motivation I have no idea, but if that is true then I see your point of view.

I stick to my original pick, Hatton brutal KO - I feel Paulie is grossly overrated, and is not on Ricky's level. Brave yes, skilful yes - but B- level for me.

[widdy]

only seen malliagnaggi a couple of times,and going off his last fight,hatton will knock him over,pick him up,cut his hair,then knock him out
haye ko 7
calz UD
hopkins SD
taylor UD
odlh KO 11
bute SD

[Beeston Brawler]

A couple of times is a couple too many.

Hate the guido fucker :lol:

[TFFP]

I may well put my faith in Mayweather Sr that he has taught Ricky some skill in this short period. Maybe something novel like throwing a jab.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think the head movement will return, but not a jab.

Against a feather fister like Paulie, the jab isn't really necessary for Hatton's style. But sight of one would be nice - after all, it is hardly the worst jab is it?

He looked pretty sharp in training, so fingers crossed.....

Did anyone see the show last night, I saw about half.....

He even has a couple of new jokes as well, and I don't recall him using the passport and babe jokes :good

[TFFP]

A jab always makes a difference. For his style it should be a key element and he'd be far more effective defensively especially. It should distract his opponent and get him into range, instead of just wading through punches blindly. He could get cut off Malignaggi's type of punches, so just because he can't punch his way out of a greasy bag of chips it is still important to think about defence.

Also its better to get into good habits. If he's thinking about De La Hoya especially he's going to get killed.

[robpalmer135]

I think the head movement will return, but not a jab.

Against a feather fister like Paulie, the jab isn't really necessary for Hatton's style. But sight of one would be nice - after all, it is hardly the worst jab is it?

He looked pretty sharp in training, so fingers crossed.....

Did anyone see the show last night, I saw about half.....

He even has a couple of new jokes as well, and I don't recall him using the passport and babe jokes :good

even if head movment comes back, it will be slow. paulie will be popping shots off all night long.

[Beeston Brawler]

Good point - defence won't be as relevant in this fight as it would in future challenges, but may as well use this fight to get it right.

It would also allow him to frustrate his opponent and make THEM reckless - allowing him to counter and get his own shots off easier and cleaner.

Unless DLH slips plenty I simply cannot see Hatton winning, unless he is able to take Oscar's left hook out of the equation and wear DLH down - because his chin ain't good enough (DLH punches harder than Floyd - though not as accurate) and there is a HUGE size and reach advantage in DLH's favour.

[TFFP]

There is such a danger of cuts against the faggot though. His punches have a quick slashing action to them. With Ricky's paper machet face it could look like a teenager who just burst all his zits if hes not careful.

[Beeston Brawler]

Maybe......

Will he have Mick Williamson though?

If he does I don't see too much of a problem, but if not.....

[GazOC]

Yep, cuts are the only way I can see PM getting a stoppage, although Hatton hasn't had a bad cut in quite a while (since they shaved the bone down on his eyebrows?). I don't see the jab being big weapon for Hatton in this fight, if he's at the range to throw a jab too often then he's spending too much time at the wrong range and fighting Paulies fight.

[robpalmer135]

cuts will be a problem.

also i think hatton is gonna struggle to make weight this time without kerry kayes who was a big part of the team. Hattons training had allot to do with dropping weight, his schedule completly changing could alter this.

and he will fade in the later rounds. Mallignaggi will not slow down, hatton will.

[TFFP]

You don't see the jab as a weapon for Hatton? :scaredas:

Has it ever been? I'm sure he skipped gym the week they taught him that as a kid. He did it use it much better at one point, but since the competition got better he seems to get even more desperate and marches forward relying only on lateral movement and footwork.

[TFFP]

Hatton has been living with his girlfriend though. He said she got sick of seeing him so fat and did some homecooking instead. The pints and kebabs are gone, apparently.

[Beeston Brawler]

I doubt they would have gone, but probably less. He looks leaner six weeks out from a fight for as long as I can remember.....

There was rumours in the paper that she was ready to ditch him unless he cleaned up his act - getting pissed and eating shite included. Ricky probably realised that she was way out of his league, that he was a lucky lad and he ought to do as he is told.

Malignaggi isn't the kind of fighter to force the pace of a fight - if Hatton is in good nick and can get some body shots to slow him down, he will stop him late. If he can't, he will win wide UD via workrate.

There is simply no way Paulie has the style to beat Hatton - I will bet all my VCash & Facebook coins on it :rofl

[BIG WORM]

hatton will be soo mush stronger than him it wont even come down to paulies skills, paulies skills wont help him from getting a kicking

[TFFP]

I doubt they would have gone, but probably less. He looks leaner six weeks out from a fight for as long as I can remember.....

There was rumours in the paper that she was ready to ditch him unless he cleaned up his act - getting pissed and eating shite included. Ricky probably realised that she was way out of his league, that he was a lucky lad and he ought to do as he is told.

Malignaggi isn't the kind of fighter to force the pace of a fight - if Hatton is in good nick and can get some body shots to slow him down, he will stop him late. If he can't, he will win wide UD via workrate.

There is simply no way Paulie has the style to beat Hatton - I will bet all my VCash & Facebook coins on it :rofl
All your 50 vCash? :tired

Don't tell me, you've got it all tied up in bets. Same here.

[GazOC]

You don't see the jab as a weapon for Hatton? :scaredas:

Has it ever been? I'm sure he skipped gym the week they taught him that as a kid. He did it use it much better at one point, but since the competition got better he seems to get even more desperate and marches forward relying only on lateral movement and footwork.

Well we were discussing the jab, wern't we?:huh Sure his jab was more effective against poorer opposition, as he'd moved up its less important so why use it? As I said, too many jabs means he's fighting the fight to suit Paulie.

[robpalmer135]

Hatton has been living with his girlfriend though. He said she got sick of seeing him so fat and did some homecooking instead. The pints and kebabs are gone, apparently.

thats clearly not the case. Hatton lookes as out of shape as always in the press confrences.

[TFFP]

Well we were discussing the jab, wern't we?:huh Sure his jab was more effective against poorer opposition, as he'd moved up its less important so why use it? As I said, too many jabs means he's fighting the fight to suit Paulie.
Why on earth would it get less important as he moved up? That's clearly not the case because he eats a lot of clean counters since his opponents are better themselves. It should be more important.

It's nothing to do with dancing around on the outside fighting Malignaggi's fight. Hatton proclaims himself as the Mexican Mancunian, a great pressure fighter, and pressure fighters always use a jab for very simple reasons. It occupies the opponent and allows you to get inside more effectively to do your best work.

[robpalmer135]

does anybody agree with me that hatton will revert back to his old style within the first half of the fight?

[Beeston Brawler]

All your 50 vCash? :tired

Don't tell me, you've got it all tied up in bets. Same here.

Yes ;)

[GazOC]

Why on earth would it get less important as he moved up? That's clearly not the case because he eats a lot of clean counters since his opponents are better themselves. It should be more important.

It's nothing to do with dancing around on the outside fighting Malignaggi's fight. Hatton proclaims himself as the Mexican Mancunian, a great pressure fighter, and pressure fighters always use a jab for very simple reasons. It occupies the opponent and allows you to get inside more effectively to do your best work.

I meant its less effective, I didn't use "effective" as I'd already used it once in the same sentence and it read poorly. All Hattons jab has been for at top level is to get in close, two jabs to the head/ chest, close the range and work the hooks. He just needs to maintain that and use it a bit more often rather than develop a Liston/ Holmes type weapon over the next few weeks.

[TFFP]

I actually had about 10,000. But I pissed it down the drain when Cory Spinks got robbed against Phillips.

Now I don't have the motivation to build it back up again.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think I got upto about 400, put it all on Marquez to beat Pacquiao - got ripped off.

ESB then gave me 50 for free.

Bless them.

[TFFP]

I meant its less effective, I didn't use "effective" as I'd already used it once in the same sentence and it read poorly. All Hattons jab has been for at top level is to get in close, two jabs to the head/ chest, close the range and work the hooks. He just needs to maintain that and use it a bit more often rather than develop a Liston/ Holmes type weapon over the next few weeks.
I agree. But he hasn't even been doing that well enough recently. What happened to it against Mayweather? He had it in is head pre-fight he was going to continue the blueprint set out by Castillo, well NEWS FLASH Ricky: Castillo used a jab.

This bullrushing tactic is a recipe for distaster at his age with that style. I'm sure Mayweather Sr knows it.

[Beeston Brawler]

No - he was lunging all the time against Lazcano, and in the second five rounds against Floyd.

In his WBU days and against Tyszu/Castillo there was very little lunging - if he cuts that out (I expect that he will) it will be an easy fight.

Lunging is what Paulie will want him to do, so he can use his slashing punches to outland Ricky before skipping out of range - but then Hatton will resort to the pure hit and hold style seen in the second half of the Urango fight to pick up the 10-9's.

[TFFP]

The dreaded hit and hold.

How unexpected

Completely illegal I might add :smoke

[GazOC]

Yawn.....

[JonOli]

Paulie - I just get the feeling it's going to be good bye Hatton... no real logic to the pick...
Haye
Calzaghe
Pavlik
Taylor
ODLH
Bute


I've just stuck 825 of vcash on Hopkins though because of the odds.



Haye is a hot favourite to beat Barrett - which is quite surprising seeing as there are questions about how he will manage the step up in weight. Having said that Barrett is no great shakes.

[slapsSOgood]

Hatton - points
Haye - KO within 3
Calzaghe - points win. difficult early rounds, routine as roy tires.
Pavlik - points, cue me never visiting the American Forum again.
Taylor - points
Pacman - shock upset by KO.

[dwilson]

Hatton-Paulie
Haye-Barrett
Calzaghe-Jones
Pavlik-Hopkins
Taylor-Lacy
Pac-ODLH
Bute-Andrade



Paulie UD.
Barrett by KO round 2.
Calzaghe UD.
Pavlik KO round 8.
Taylor KO round 10.
ODLH UD.
Bute by lucky SD.

[dwilson]

All your 50 vCash? :tired

Don't tell me, you've got it all tied up in bets. Same here.



I had my vcash tied up in bets over the last few week, add the 50's I kept getting and then putting on fights resulted in me winning a grand total of 69v cash.

[Beeston Brawler]

A few people have gone for Malignaggi.....

Strange!

[TFFP]

I was thinking about going for him. So its not that strange.

[GazOC]

I'm glad I'm not on my own going for a Pavlik KO.

[TFFP]

I'm glad I'm not on my own going for a Pavlik KO.
Getting worried for that shemale in your avatar?

[Beeston Brawler]

I went for Hopkins.

For once, I hope Bernard actually wins - then I will be all over the general forum like a fucking rash!

[GazOC]

Getting worried for that shemale in your avatar?

Nah, I'm just having trouble picking out nice Ricky Hatton avatar out for you.

[GazOC]

I went for Hopkins.

For once, I hope Bernard actually wins - then I will be all over the general forum like a fucking rash!

I'm prepared to wait, it'll be so much sweeter if Calzaghe beats Pavlik.

[Decebal]

I'll give my picks with percentages of their chances added in.

IMO:

Hatton-Paulie: 55/45: Hatton 7-5; Paulie is overrated and Hatton is on the slide; don't expect it will be a classic.
Haye-Barrett: 80/20: Haye KO5; would Haye get up if he was KDed? Interesting fight!
Calzaghe-Jones: 65/35: Calzaghe 9-3; a fight for lovers of strategy; look forward to it.
Pavlik-Hopkins: 55/45: Pavlik 7-5, unless Hopkins gets more than a KD; great test for Kelly; interesting
Taylor-Lacy: 80/20: Taylor 10-2, virtual shut-out from Taylor; not that interesting except to see how Taylor fares
Pac-ODLH: I refuse to even pick a winner!:bart :p
Bute-Andrade: 60/40: Bute 8-4, many close rounds, hard, competitive fight; Andrade has a good chance of winning by TKO late on; interesting fight!
:good

[rooq]

Hatton-Paulie...........Hatton UD
Haye-Barrett............Haye TKO
Calzaghe-Jones.........Calzaghe UD
Pavlik-Hopkins...........Pavlik UD (if its close pavlik will surely be given the decision)
Taylor-Lacy..............Taylor TKO
Pac-ODLH.................ODLH TKO
Bute-Andrade............Bute UD

[Benjiabc]

I went for Hopkins.

For once, I hope Bernard actually wins - then I will be all over the general forum like a fucking rash!


you must of read my mind:good


the likes of jetski will be taking the bulk of the punishment

[Bonavena25]

Malignaggi will get totally battered by Hatton if he doesn't recapture some of his old form. He's been utter gash in his last two fights.