The Germans are on fire - Greatest ring entrance in history

[DaSweetScience]

Did anybody see the Klitschko v Peter fight on Youtube.

The ring entrance was just unbelievable. Check it.

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What about the camera angles in the actual fight!!!

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And the German silent crowds.. truly special.

And I almost forgot about the Pussycat Dolls before the fight

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Very very impressive.

[JOSEY WALES]

Did anybody see the Klitschko v Peter fight on Youtube.

The ring entrance was just unbelievable. Check it.

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What about the camera angles in the actual fight!!!

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And the German silent crowds.. truly special.

And I almost forgot about the Pussycat Dolls before the fight

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Very very impressive. The Pussycat Dolls preformance outshone that of Peter's , the ring entrance was quality ( a real treat seeing past champions like that pre fight as it added to the excitment ) . good post .

[shiner]

great stuff by the germans! your right, they spend the bux and no doubt got the return with klitschko the king again.

[ozziebattler]

His entrance was great.probably best ever.Besides my ring entrance at mt druitt pcyc a few years ago.lol.

My man Iron Mike got the biggest roar. man i miss him.Put the beef on though the poor bugger.

[Kegsy]

That ring entrance was insane!!!!

Go Vitali....

[Rise Above]

Great idea having all the old champs introducing it.

[ranser]

if Ali was there, that would have been the ultimate.

[ozziebattler]

if Ali was there, that would have been the ultimate.

Lets be honest mate it wouldnt of been that inspiring seeing the GOAT dribble a few words.

Frazier sounded like the punches have caught up.

[teke]

Joe Frazier has some condition i forget what it is.

Tyson is fuckin fat as...imo Vitali would hold his own with any of those former champs.

[ipswich express]

Joe Frazier has some condition i forget what it is.

Tyson is fuckin fat as...imo Vitali would hold his own with any of those former champs.

Really? Based on what? The biggest notch in his belt was getting stopped on cuts by Lennox Lewis in 6 rounds and now beating the great Sam Peter. Admittedly I'm impressed that he did it so convincingly after 4 years off, but then again I don't imagine any mid level Heavyweight champion of the past struggling too much either.

[pecks]

Really? Based on what? The biggest notch in his belt was getting stopped on cuts by Lennox Lewis in 6 rounds and now beating the great Sam Peter. Admittedly I'm impressed that he did it so convincingly after 4 years off, but then again I don't imagine any mid level Heavyweight champion of the past struggling too much either.Peter is garbage, but the way Vitali disposed of him was impressive.

I do believe that Lewis would have won a rematch had it had happened, but Vitali would have had his moments again.

He is better than most give him credit for imo.

[ipswich express]

Peter is garbage, but the way Vitali disposed of him was impressive.

I do believe that Lewis would have won a rematch had it had happened, but Vitali would have had his moments again.

He is better than most give him credit for imo.

Yeah he disposed of him in a bit of style. Would loved to have seen how he went with those hands down low against Big George or Joe. Lewis was 38 years old when Vitali had his moments. He's rugged and has a much better chin than his brother but his resume is so far short of being considered a top Heavyweight it's not even funny.

[teke]

Really? Based on what? The biggest notch in his belt was getting stopped on cuts by Lennox Lewis in 6 rounds and now beating the great Sam Peter. Admittedly I'm impressed that he did it so convincingly after 4 years off, but then again I don't imagine any mid level Heavyweight champion of the past struggling too much either.Holding his own doesnt mean winning dippy :D

He has size, great chin, reach in his punches, strong, stamina, mixes his punches up well with shots and power. He's a bloody good boxer when he's on.

Was punching the piss out of Lewis at times up until the stoppage. Has disposed with almost every fighter he has fought in good fashion. Please dont tell me the past champs walk over him. Im the biggest Tyson nuthugger there is so im fairly neutral on this.

[teke]

Yeah he disposed of him in a bit of style. Would loved to have seen how he went with those hands down low against Big George or Joe. Lewis was 38 years old when Vitali had his moments. He's rugged and has a much better chin than his brother but his resume is so far short of being considered a top Heavyweight it's not even funny.His resume could be alot better than it is if he kept fighting regularly.

Young big George would have his own problems with Vitali hanging his own hands down low. Prime George would be outweighed by some 20 pounds.

[JOSEY WALES]

Tyson would have bobbed and waved his way into Vitaly's torso and destroyed the cunt , in his prime it wouldn't have even been close , big George would have mullered the fella also , putting Klitchko in the same bracket as the likes of Foreman , Clay , Holmes etc is fucking dull anyone saying different sould be shot with shit on an hourly basis for a week . lol

[teke]

Tyson would have bobbed and waved his way into Vitaly's torso and destroyed the cunt , in his prime it wouldn't have even been close , big George would have mullered the fella also , putting Klitchko in the same bracket as the likes of Foreman , Clay , Holmes etc is fucking dull anyone saying different sould be shot with shit on an hourly basis for a week . lolYeah cause Tyson destroyed every cunt he fought........wrong.

Im not putting Klitschko in the same bracket as all time greats but am saying he wouldnt have been walked over. My point is the more likely as every all time great DID NOT walk over every single opponent of theirs

[JOSEY WALES]

Yeah cause Tyson destroyed every cunt he fought........wrong.

Im not putting Klitschko in the same bracket as all time greats but am saying he wouldnt have been walked over. My point is the more likely as every all time great DID NOT walk over every single opponent of theirs PRIME was the word i used mate and i stand by it a Prime Tyson would have destroyed the robotic VK as he did V Anyone , Foreman would , Clay , Would , Marciano would , Louis Would , Bear Would Etc however your point about Klit not being a walk over is correct and noted , Box on . :good

[DaSweetScience]

I'm glad the debate is even happening after the Heavyweight low water mark of W. Klitschko and Tony Thompson. Vitali looked looser than he has ever been, his handspeed was magnificent by todays heavy standards and he made Sam Peter quit on his stool with his awkward and battering style.

The fact we aren't embarassed by a heavyweight fight is a giant leap forward at this low point.

[JOSEY WALES]

I'm glad the debate is even happening after the Heavyweight low water mark of W. Klitschko and Tony Thompson. Vitali looked looser than he has ever been, his handspeed was magnificent by todays heavy standards and he made Sam Peter quit on his stool with his awkward and battering style.

The fact we aren't embarassed by a heavyweight fight is a giant leap forward at this low point. Spot on Da Sweet , It only takes a decent fight for interest to be rekindled in the division , Haye is a mouthy guy but with potential , Johnson could be the dark horse though he's just quiet and going about his buisness correctly , all it takes is three or four decent heavies all fighting each other and it soon will become the greatest show on earth again .

[ozziebattler]

PRIME was the word i used mate and i stand by it a Prime Tyson would have destroyed the robotic VK as he did V Anyone , Foreman would , Clay , Would , Marciano would , Louis Would , Bear Would Etc however your point about Klit not being a walk over is correct and noted , Box on . :good


Marciano would of been brutally beaten by Klit..Klit would be servinbg life for fistfucking Rocky's mug without concent.

All the others would own Klit..My man Tyson would of had Klit scared before the bell had sounded so the rest wouldnt of mattered.

[teke]

Marciano would of been brutally beaten by Klit..Klit would be servinbg life for fistfucking Rocky's mug without concent.

All the others would own Klit..My man Tyson would of had Klit scared before the bell had sounded so the rest wouldnt of mattered.I was waiting for someone to mentin wee little 180 pound Marciano.

Without taking away from what he achieved he would have been waaaay too small to beat Klit.

[teke]

PRIME was the word i used mate and i stand by it a Prime Tyson would have destroyed the robotic VK as he did V Anyone , Foreman would , Clay , Would , Marciano would , Louis Would , Bear Would Etc however your point about Klit not being a walk over is correct and noted , Box on . :goodLike i said im a Tyson Nuthugger from way back. I agree Tyson would have won but i kinda like what i see in the big Klit.

[ozziebattler]

Like i said im a Tyson Nuthugger from way back. I agree Tyson would have won but i kinda like what i see in the big Klit.

Klit is just so big and strong.When he fights it looks like he does so with ease.Thats why i feel a pressure fighter who can band would rip him apart.He is way too laxy dazy.

But luckily for him Heavyweights these days are overweight and have next to know work rate.He will stop a few more duds then retire again.

[ipswich express]

I was waiting for someone to mentin wee little 180 pound Marciano.

Without taking away from what he achieved he would have been waaaay too small to beat Klit.

Size difference would've been too much most likely. Rocky fought someone 254lbs and Joe Louis who was 210-215lbs. Dempsey much the same. That being said, Klitschko lost to Chris Byrd who certainly wasn't the biggest Heavy. If it were a pound-for-pound match up, Dempsey and the Brockton Blockbuster walk all over Frankenstein. Otherwise the size disparity would be too great.

[teke]

Size difference would've been too much most likely. Rocky fought someone 254lbs and Joe Louis who was 210-215lbs. Dempsey much the same. That being said, Klitschko lost to Chris Byrd who certainly wasn't the biggest Heavy. If it were a pound-for-pound match up, Dempsey and the Brockton Blockbuster walk all over Frankenstein. Otherwise the size disparity would be too great.Agree.

Yeah Ozzie, with the 4 year layoff and state of the heavyweight division V Klit can def win a few more.

I wanna see Vitali v Haye :yep

[ipswich express]

War Haye!! I'd take him over Vitali for sure. Too much lateral movement and enough crack to have his respect. Haye on points. Would be the kind of fight the division needs.

[teke]

Well i will take Vitali by bruising beating.

[pecks]

Well i will take Vitali by bruising beating.Same, although I think Haye does just about anyone else in the division. Wlad/Haye would be tighter.

[TheDuke]

1. Despite having 2 losses on his record - has Vitali ever looked like losing? I mean both losses were essentially stoppages due to injury.

2. Secondly, he generates incredible power for such economy of movement. I think the reason that he is labeled 'robotic' is that he doesn't need to wind up on his punches, so he looks 'boring' to some. However, his opponents usually crumble under the accumulated weight of these very accurate, very hard punches.

Throw in a decent chin and good reflexes for such a big un and you have a guy that deserves more respect than he gets.

[ipswich express]

1. Despite having 2 losses on his record - has Vitali ever looked like losing? I mean both losses were essentially stoppages due to injury.

2. Secondly, he generates incredible power for such economy of movement. I think the reason that he is labeled 'robotic' is that he doesn't need to wind up on his punches, so he looks 'boring' to some. However, his opponents usually crumble under the accumulated weight of these very accurate, very hard punches.

Throw in a decent chin and good reflexes for such a big un and you have a guy that deserves more respect than he gets.

Who has he really fought that any decent Heavyweight champion from the past wouldn't beat, apart from Lewis? It'll take a lot more than Kirk Johnson, Larry Donald and Corrie Sanders to boost his historical standing. Hell I'd back Donovan Ruddock against every one of the fighters he's beat.

[Kegsy]

Who has he really fought that any decent Heavyweight champion from the past wouldn't beat, apart from Lewis? It'll take a lot more than Kirk Johnson, Larry Donald and Corrie Sanders to boost his historical standing. Hell I'd back Donovan Ruddock against every one of the fighters he's beat.
:lol: Ruddock was a good 1.

[DaSweetScience]

I don't know if the heavyweight holograms have made me a bit loose but I would say that Klitschko's win on the weekend was the best performance I have seen from a heavyweight in the past 5 years.

[TheDuke]

Who has he really fought that any decent Heavyweight champion from the past wouldn't beat, apart from Lewis? It'll take a lot more than Kirk Johnson, Larry Donald and Corrie Sanders to boost his historical standing. Hell I'd back Donovan Ruddock against every one of the fighters he's beat.

It's impossible to argue with you with regards to record. However, and not being completely familiar with his whole career, outside of Lewis has he not just beaten, but dominated close to everyone he has fought?

Until he does face worthy foes (if ever), who knows where he deserves to stand?

[JOSEY WALES]

Marciano would of been brutally beaten by Klit..Klit would be servinbg life for fistfucking Rocky's mug without concent.

All the others would own Klit..My man Tyson would of had Klit scared before the bell had sounded so the rest wouldnt of mattered.
Why would Marciano have been brutaly beaten ? size ? if that was the case Tyson would have never had a career , Marciano always found a way to win , his adaptability was outstanding if we based the result of our mythical fights on size only then the ambling alp would have ruled the world , VK is a latter day Pino Carrera imo his skill level is way below that of a Marciano , same as Nic "old cabbage head " Valuve the guy is 7 foot tall but a heap of shite , VK is a better fighter than NV but no ATG

[DaSweetScience]

He has much more than Carnera. That is a brutal and unrealistic comparison.

[JOSEY WALES]

He has much more than Carnera. That is a brutal and unrealistic comparison. lol Why ? Vitaly has been made to look as clumsy as the Alp in the past , VK by sheer advancments in the sport in general is above the Italian but if he were fighting back in the day he would imo be looked upon as Carnera was ie a freak , i would like to see a time machine fight between VK & Louis , would VK last longer than the Alp ? Who knows ? . Bear V VK would be a war whilst it lasted . how would Vitaly have coped if faced with a Marciano who was split to the bone of his nose still coming forward at him , would he have dug in like a warrior or fled like a lamb , who knows its all pie in the sky , but good .

[teke]

Why would Marciano have been brutaly beaten ? size ? if that was the case Tyson would have never had a career , Marciano always found a way to win , his adaptability was outstanding if we based the result of our mythical fights on size only then the ambling alp would have ruled the world , VK is a latter day Pino Carrera imo his skill level is way below that of a Marciano , same as Nic "old cabbage head " Valuve the guy is 7 foot tall but a heap of shite , VK is a better fighter than NV but no ATGEven Tyson was a fair bit bigger than Marciano.

Marciano def did find a way to win each time but you must realise he consistently fought fighters in the 175-210 pound (say 75% of his fights) weight group with a few above that.

Vitali is alot better skilled than Carrera :lol:

Still good to talk about but this matchup is boy v man.

[ipswich express]

Hell if there's a time machine to the 90s let alone the golden eras I'm not sure he gets through.

Holyfield
Tyson
Ruddock
Mercer
Morrison
Bowe
Lewis
Moorer

[JOSEY WALES]

what i laugh at is this VK comes out of a 3 year 8 month rest and beats a plodding unskilled fighter with no plan A let alone plans B,C or D and the world raves about him , it tells us a great deal about the current "Champs" doesn't it . seeing these Brothers try and be amusing was as funny as death itself , VK , I like your belt , WK No its mine :patsch

[JOSEY WALES]

Hell if there's a time machine to the 90s let alone the golden eras I'm not sure he gets through.

Holyfield
Tyson
Ruddock
Mercer
Morrison
Bowe
Lewis
Moorer :deal

[pecks]

Vitali's resume isn't good, though he is better than his resume suggests. He's never really been dominated, and while I don't think he's a legend or anything, he doesn't deserve to be held in the same regard as the other heavies in todays game.

[JOSEY WALES]

Even Tyson was a fair bit bigger than Marciano.

Marciano def did find a way to win each time but you must realise he consistently fought fighters in the 175-210 pound (say 75% of his fights) weight group with a few above that.

Vitali is alot better skilled than Carrera :lol:

Still good to talk about but this matchup is boy v man. :huh

[teke]

I'll gladly take Vitali over Moorer, Morrison and possibly Rodduck.

Bowe drifted in and out of comas in his career, the Riddick that fought Golota would be in trouble aswell.

Id actually picture a good fight between Golota and Vitali, two big men with good boxing skills.

[teke]

:huhwhat you confused about ole man :think

[JOSEY WALES]

I'll gladly take Vitali over Moorer, Morrison and possibly Rodduck.

Bowe drifted in and out of comas in his career, the Riddick that fought Golota would be in trouble aswell.

Id actually picture a good fight between Golota and Vitali, two big men with good boxing skills. Ruddock pushed Tyson and got prematurley stopped and Golota quit on his stool after a round but you would pick Golota to have a better chance v Klitchko ?

[teke]

Ruddock pushed Tyson and got prematurley stopped and Golota quit on his stool after a round but you would pick Golota to have a better chance v Klitchko ?I did not say that.

I said "possibly Rudduck aswell" and "Golota that fought Riddick" which was years before Tyson had a crack at him.

[JOSEY WALES]

what you confused about ole man :think Boy v Man comment i certainly hope you don't see Marciano as the boy and Klitchko as the man :twisted: .Ps yea i may be 45 but what with my daughter about to drop Grandson #1 i am feeling a tad sensitive re the o'l man comment :-(

[JOSEY WALES]

I did not say that.

I said "possibly Rudduck aswell" and "Golota that fought Riddick" which was years before Tyson had a crack at him. Love the windy city riot lmao Golota had him fucked why fould pole his way out ? :shock:

[teke]

Boy v Man comment i certainly hope you don't see Marciano as the boy and Klitchko as the man :twisted: .Ps yea i may be 45 but what with my daughter about to drop Grandson #1 i am feeling a tad sensitive re the o'l man comment :-(I was referring to the size difference really.

I saw pics of Tyson and Vitali together when Klit took him around a city in Russia. Tyson looked like a tiny boy standing next to him.

It was only guess you were older than I by a bit and i was correct :D

Still Id rather talk to you than listen to Pecks urging me on to visit beasttube :lol::lol:

[teke]

Love the windy city riot lmao Golota had him fucked why fould pole his way out ? :shock:Yeah i know, i dont think there was one person that was not shocked. He was beating him up bigtime.

Was never really a big Golota fan but his last fight against Molo he earnt my respect. If he had that attitude his whole career things could have gone alot differently

[JOSEY WALES]

Yeah i know, i dont think there was one person that was not shocked. He was beating him up bigtime.

Was never really a big Golota fan but his last fight against Molo he earnt my respect. If he had that attitude his whole career things could have gone alot differently That Golota is a total head job mate throughout his career he lacked confidence when things went pair shaped for him in the ring i don't think it was a matter of bottle as cowards don't step through the ropes at any level never mind mixing it up with the blokes he was in with , that mollo fight was an unexpected treat mate i agree , but then again he knew he was in the last chance saloon , Fear of not having any more paydays far out strips fear of having a beating any day of the week .

[JOSEY WALES]

Ps , Thanks for the link :good :lol:

[pecks]

Still Id rather talk to you than listen to Pecks urging me on to visit beasttube :lol::lol:You were probably a member there anyway, probably even a mod.

[ozziebattler]

Why would Marciano have been brutaly beaten ? size ? if that was the case Tyson would have never had a career , Marciano always found a way to win , his adaptability was outstanding if we based the result of our mythical fights on size only then the ambling alp would have ruled the world , VK is a latter day Pino Carrera imo his skill level is way below that of a Marciano , same as Nic "old cabbage head " Valuve the guy is 7 foot tall but a heap of shite , VK is a better fighter than NV but no ATG

Yes size was a factor for me.Among with Vitali's strength and accuracy with his shots..Marciano would take his fair share of shots to get a few off himself..Couldnt see him getting inside of V.K. who would more then likely keep him at bay with his huge reach..

Marciano always found a way to win but one can only take punishment from a devastating(very accurate) puncher such as V.K for so long..

V.K has alot more skills then you give him credit for.The bloke rarely has had to use them as his superior size and placement of pretty damn strong punches have usually kept his opponents at bay.

Comparing V.K to Carrera and Valuev is just showing your hate for the bloke.Any serious boxing fan with any amount of knowledge of the fightgame would know better then making stupid comparisons like that.

(Didnt expect this from you:nono ).

You named 2 sideshow attractions to a Olympic gold medallist/multiple times champion of the world and future HOF.I feel V.K.'s legacy has suffered due to the dire state of the Heavyweight scene throughout most of his career.Other then when he fought Lewis(and got robbed) there really hasnt been too many name fighters in his prime to step up against.

Its hard when throughout your career the only real big scalp you can shoot for is your brother.

[LeonMcS]

Robbed against Lewis? Please.

He was lucky to be allowed to fight on as long as he did, the cut over his eye was one of the worst I've seen.

Quit on his stool against Chris Byrd. Hardly a recognisable name on his resume. Maybe this time round will achieve something but the opposition for him is even weaker now.

[ozziebattler]

Robbed against Lewis? Please.

He was lucky to be allowed to fight on as long as he did, the cut over his eye was one of the worst I've seen.

Quit on his stool against Chris Byrd. Hardly a recognisable name on his resume. Maybe this time round will achieve something but the opposition for him is even weaker now.

Maybe i used the wrong word..

I mean if he werent to suffer such a nasty cut i believe he had Lewis.

Man i cant believe there wasnt a re match.

Hardly a name on his resume??

Yeah no legends but he has beaten most of todays decent pros.

[ipswich express]

Quite simply, his title reign is abysmal. He won the WBO title (never a stronghold for Heavyweights) against blown up Cruiser Herbie Hide. Admittedly, he blew him out, just as he should. Successful defences against Ed Mahone and Obed Sullivan followed before quitting on his stool against Chris Byrd.

Wins the WBC title against Corrie Sanders, defends against Danny Williams and retires. Beats Sam Peter. Hardly the stuff of legends. I understand there's not much competition in the Heavyweight ranks, but do you know what, there was a drought in the 80s too. Holmes cleaned up the entire division. That's how he cemented his legacy.

If the pair of them cleaned up Chagaev, Valuev, Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Juan Carlos Gomez, Chris Arreola, Golota (for what it's worth), David Haye it'd certainly improve their standing historically.

[teke]

Quite simply, his title reign is abysmal. He won the WBO title (never a stronghold for Heavyweights) against blown up Cruiser Herbie Hide. Admittedly, he blew him out, just as he should. Successful defences against Ed Mahone and Obed Sullivan followed before quitting on his stool against Chris Byrd.

Wins the WBC title against Corrie Sanders, defends against Danny Williams and retires. Beats Sam Peter. Hardly the stuff of legends. I understand there's not much competition in the Heavyweight ranks, but do you know what, there was a drought in the 80s too. Holmes cleaned up the entire division. That's how he cemented his legacy.

If the pair of them cleaned up Chagaev, Valuev, Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Juan Carlos Gomez, Chris Arreola, Golota (for what it's worth), David Haye it'd certainly improve their standing historically.Agree,

Im not too fussed about his resume at this point, i just like watching the big fella fight cause he's a good fighter, a fighter that seems very hard to beat

[ipswich express]

Agree,

Im not too fussed about his resume at this point, i just like watching the big fella fight cause he's a good fighter, a fighter that seems very hard to beat

I don't disagree with that, but it just takes a lot more than looking good against Danny Williams or Sam Peter before I call him a tough fight for the greats of the Heavyweight division. :yep

[JOSEY WALES]

QUOTE , (Comparing V.K to Carrera and Valuev is just showing your hate for the bloke.Any serious boxing fan with any amount of knowledge of the fightgame would know better then making stupid comparisons like that).

Ah well i may not have expert knowledge Ozzie mate but i at least know its not insulting to anyone to compare them with a guy that went something like 90-15 especially given the era which the guy was fighting in and the similar size between then .

Anyway where did i say i hate the fella i was one of the first on the main board to give him his props and saying i compared VK to Cabbage head is a bit of a Porky ( Go back and read where i said VK is a more skilled fighter than Nic Valuve ) ,

As for Marciano well its widley excepted that Tyson would have given VK hell with his style and as you said Marciano had a way of winning , mainly due to his adaptability so why wouldn't Marciano have employed such tactics ( he did have the ability to do so ) to do a similar job ?

[madpup]

lol Why ? Vitaly has been made to look as clumsy as the Alp in the past , VK by sheer advancments in the sport in general is above the Italian but if he were fighting back in the day he would imo be looked upon as Carnera was ie a freak , i would like to see a time machine fight between VK & Louis , would VK last longer than the Alp ? Who knows ? . Bear V VK would be a war whilst it lasted . how would Vitaly have coped if faced with a Marciano who was split to the bone of his nose still coming forward at him , would he have dug in like a warrior or fled like a lamb , who knows its all pie in the sky , but good .

This is a nonsense post. When was Vitaly ever made to look clumsy?

[JOSEY WALES]

This is a nonsense post. When was Vitaly ever made to look clumsy? For clumsy read "Robotic" and what other part of my post is nonsense ? Fek me suggest anything other than VK is GOD and a bloke gets jumped on lol . i didn't realise the Ukraine had such a fan base but then again the division is such a load of bollocks these days i can understand people thinking the guy was the second coming after beating the outstanding Sam Peter's :patsch

[madpup]

For clumsy read "Robotic" and what other part of my post is nonsense ? Fek me suggest anything other than VK is GOD and a bloke gets jumped on lol . i didn't realise the Ukraine had such a fan base but then again the division is such a load of bollocks these days i can understand people thinking the guy was the second coming after beating the outstanding Sam Peter's :patsch

I never said VK is god. What you said that in the past times VK would be considered a freak show, that is nonsense. The guy is no all-time great, but he is a good fighter and would be competetive in any era.

I am no VK nuthugger, but you are a VK hater.

[JOSEY WALES]

I never said VK is god. What you said that in the past times VK would be considered a freak show, that is nonsense. The guy is no all-time great, but he is a good fighter and would be competetive in any era.

I am no VK nuthugger, but you are a VK hater.

Any boxer standing @ 6' 8" tall fighting when PC was fighting WOULD be considered a FREAK ,,, RIGHT OR WRONG ?

Just because i disagreed with a few comments regarding Vitaly Does that make me a hater ? Go look on the main board where i was one of the first to give the man his due props after he did exactly what i predicated he would do v Peter .. Fuck me this is what i hate about some boxing sites you question a man's standing in the all time rankings and you get labled a hater FFS LMFAO :-(

[teke]

I don't disagree with that, but it just takes a lot more than looking good against Danny Williams or Sam Peter before I call him a tough fight for the greats of the Heavyweight division. :yepHe certainly was a tough fight for Lewis :p

[ipswich express]

Yeah a 37 year old Lewis that took him on with 12 days notice after Kirk Johnson pulled out....and still made his face look like it'd been through a meat grinder. :)

[ipswich express]

...at a career high 256 1/2 lbs and 54 weeks after his last fight :) ....

[Serenata]

Lewis did neither look fat nor shot. A bit past his prime perhaps...

[teke]

Yeah a 37 year old Lewis that took him on with 12 days notice after Kirk Johnson pulled out....and still made his face look like it'd been through a meat grinder. :)ha ha 12 days notice my arse and i knew you would bring up the 37 years old bit. As Lewis and most boxing analyst said...he got better with age which i agree with, dont try this angle :nono:yep

He was getting beat on for the first time hn his career...poor fellow didnt want no rematch :yep

[teke]

Vitali also fought Lewis on short notice :deal:deal:deal

Dont discredit Vitali effort Ippy cause you are afraid to admit his form that night was good and would be a hard match for a few other ATGs :yep

[Serenata]

Without the cut both could have won this bout. But still Lewis won fair and square. But he should at least have given Vitali a rematch where they could have found out who of them realy is the better fighter. :)

[teke]

Without the cut both could have won this bout. But still Lewis won fair and square. But he should at least have given Vitali a rematch where they could have found out who of them realy is the better fighter. :)I agree, it was one of the best big heavy events i can think of.

Rematch would have been awesome

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It was 12 days notice. There's not a single doubt in the world about that. Johnson pulled out and Vitali, who was due to fight on the undercard, stepped in.

Lewis got better with age? His prime years were clearly 95-2000, not long after his stoppages of Ruddock, Bruno and loss to McCall.

Ray Mercer gave him a closer fight ;)

[teke]

It was 12 days notice. There's not a single doubt in the world about that. Johnson pulled out and Vitali, who was due to fight on the undercard, stepped in.

Lewis got better with age? His prime years were clearly 95-2000, not long after his stoppages of Ruddock, Bruno and loss to McCall.

Ray Mercer gave him a closer fight ;)Mercer gave him a great fight, some say he won. If the fight was allowed to continue i would have liked Vitali for the victory ;)

I thought Vitali stepped in a month beforehand, doesnt matter both had equal time to prepare for each other. Lewis was still good, he was still an atg and Vitali gave him trouble - we both can agree on this :yep

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Vitali also fought Lewis on short notice :deal:deal:deal

Dont discredit Vitali effort Ippy cause you are afraid to admit his form that night was good and would be a hard match for a few other ATGs :yep

Hey Vitali put up a good effort against a fading champion. By that logic, Carl Williams and Jimmy Young must be a hard match for the ATGs?

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Mercer gave him a great fight, some say he won. If the fight was allowed to continue i would have liked Vitali for the victory ;)

I thought Vitali stepped in a month beforehand, doesnt matter both had equal time to prepare for each other. Lewis was still good, he was still an atg and Vitali gave him trouble - we both can agree on this :yep

Just as long as we agree that Lewis in his worst shape still made Klitschko in his best shape look like he'd been hit with an axe... :yep

I'm not even a Lewis fan :lol:

[teke]

Just as long as we agree that Lewis in his worst shape still made Klitschko in his best shape look like he'd been hit with an axe... :yep

I'm not even a Lewis fan :lol:Im not a Vitali hugger either, couple more posts and i could be classified as one :lol:

[Serenata]

Not in his worst shape, but there were truly times where he was in better shape :D

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I can't remember him looking any worse. Maybe South Africa. Much in a muchness, 3 or so pounds.

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Or maybe this one is more to your liking Teke :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jack Dempsey is turning in his grave....

[teke]

Or maybe this one is more to your liking Teke :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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[Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])You do realise you will get Kesslersexuals in here trying to better this pic using Kess dont you?!

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Or maybe this one is more to your liking Teke :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Defo suited more to Teke's taste , ( well they are looking rather bronzed ) :yep :yep :yep

Sorry Hombre i couldn't resist :good I was going to use the "two thumbs up" smiley but thought better of it .

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Mercer gave him a great fight, some say he won. If the fight was allowed to continue i would have liked Vitali for the victory ;)

I thought Vitali stepped in a month beforehand, doesnt matter both had equal time to prepare for each other. Lewis was still good, he was still an atg and Vitali gave him trouble - we both can agree on this :yep

Watch the Mercer bout.Decent scrap.Mercer was a very good fighter when on song.I had Ray up by 2rounds..

[teke]

Watch the Mercer bout.Decent scrap.Mercer was a very good fighter when on song.I had Ray up by 2rounds..I've only watched it once a fair few years ago, i think i had mercer up aswell.

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You do realise you will get Kesslersexuals in here trying to better this pic using Kess dont you?!

Im sure Markus Beyer fans could compete too :D

[pecks]

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True that Lewis came in in bad shape, though Vitali did take the fight at short notice as well.

The pic is a bit misleading too, it's not like Vitali got blasted all night long, or like he copped a Lacy.

[teke]

Very misleading, especially for our new boxing fans in here like Ippy.

I think Vitali was ahead on all the judges scorecards, he was on mine.

[JOSEY WALES]

Very misleading, especially for our new boxing fans in here like Ippy.

I think Vitali was ahead on all the judges scorecards, he was on mine. Judges scorecards mean fuck all in a TKO mate , Klit had his face mullered in that fight lewis made him look like a Pussy on Blob, now he wants to face the fella who made his face look like a Maxipad again , Lenneox Lewis is now 103 years old and probably knocking on for 280lbs ffs , Pecks Re sticking your "Old boy " into the cut , I suggest you seek real help whilst your out of the country mate , they can sort you out and the Aussie authoritys won't know a thing about it so it won't go down on your record and effect your future :lol: :good

[teke]

Judges scorecards mean fuck all in a TKO mate , Klit had his face mullered in that fight lewis made him look like a Pussy on Blob, now he wants to face the fella who made his face look like a Maxipad again , Lenneox Lewis is now 103 years old and probably knocking on for 280lbs ffs , Pecks Re sticking your "Old boy " into the cut , I suggest you seek real help whilst your out of the country mate , they can sort you out and the Aussie authoritys won't know a thing about it so it won't go down on your record and effect your future :lol: :goodI was just commenting on the picture as misleading, nothing more nothing less.

Vitali would have fought the final rounds even with Peck's dick in there, thats one tough hombre :deal

[JOSEY WALES]

I was just commenting on the picture as misleading, nothing more nothing less.

Vitali would have fought the final rounds even with Peck's dick in there, thats one tough hombre :deal Teke man i agree 100% he showed real bollocks in that fight mate , trying to fight on for the ko when your proper fucked like that indicates Guts in spades :good

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Very misleading, especially for our new boxing fans in here like Ippy.

I think Vitali was ahead on all the judges scorecards, he was on mine.

:patsch:lol:

[teke]

:patsch:lol::lol: