View Full Version : Why do people think Mayweather will stop Hatton?
Right now, I have it 50/50 as to who will win, and I think most proper fans will accept this fight will be close.
However, one thing I really don't get is people saying Hatton is going to be stopped. On cuts, maybe, but Mayweather KOing him? No chance at all. Hatton has a very good chin, and him hanging on against Collazo was more to do with stamina rather, and I don't think he was hurt despite taking big punches when his defence went completely.
He took a lot of good punches off Tszyu, which says something. Tszyu was definetly one of the hardes hitters P4P when he was in his prime - Maybe even #1. And like they always say, power is the last thing to go in a fighter.
Look at how Judah was ridiculed by Tszyu. Now, he lasted 12 rounds against Mayweather, but was KOed easily by Tszyu. This proves Tszyu hits far harder than Mayweather does, so where is the logic in saying Mayweather will KO Hatton? There is none.
People are expecting a Gatti style beatdown which is insane to me. Not gonna happen in a million years.
I certainly think Mayweather can win this fight, but a stoppage win is off the mark by a long way.
Mayweather has neither the power or the astyle to KO Hatton.
if its a stoppage win got PBF it will be because Ricky got a cut.,
tragicliston
08-02-2007, 04:57 PM
Cuts and bruising.
MacManJr.
08-02-2007, 04:58 PM
He will stop him if he sits down on some punches. Hatton is too damn slow and will get hit so many times his eyes will swell shut.
thewoo
08-02-2007, 04:59 PM
I think that most people making that pick are imagining Floyd doing to hatton like he did to Gatti and the fight being stopped on a TKO. I can't imagine any rationale person that thinks that Ricky will be counted out.
nulty
08-02-2007, 05:00 PM
Hatton hatred. The only way Hatton gets stopped is on cuts and before the hate resumes Tyszu was meant to either blow hatton out or cut him to shreads. Ricky has never been stopped on cuts and has IMO the best cutman in the business.
nulty
08-02-2007, 05:02 PM
I think that most people making that pick are imagining Floyd doing to hatton like he did to Gatti and the fight being stopped on a TKO. I can't imagine any rationale person that thinks that Ricky will be counted out.
To be honest I don't it's rational to even imagine that, Hatton is better than Gatti ever was and is still in his prime, also he won't have buddy telling him boxing PBF is the way to go.
nulty
08-02-2007, 05:05 PM
He will stop him if he sits down on some punches. Hatton is too damn slow and will get hit so many times his eyes will swell shut.
PBF sit down on punches? Forget it, Hatton will be pressuring him so much floyd will cover marathon distance, he will be sticking and running not planting.
Hatton hatred. The only way Hatton gets stopped is on cuts and before the hate resumes Tyszu was meant to either blow hatton out or cut him to shreads. Ricky has never been stopped on cuts and has IMO the best cutman in the business.
I don't hate Hatton one bit yet I believe there is a good chance he might get stopped. There is a good chance he might get stopped on cuts, with the fast punches he WILL eat in this fight over and over the chances for that to happen are pretty high, if not then let me remind you of the Collazo fight when Hatton was nearly stopped or knocked down in the 12th round by Collazo who isn't a big punches and I believe it's safe to say that Mayweather hits WAY harder than Collazo not to forget that Hatton WILL eat punches that he won't see coming A LOT since his style is coming forward expect Floyd to counted with vicious bombs there that have enough power in them to either stun Hatton or even floor him. The reason why not many are picking Hatton to stop Floyd(Even though it's not impossible) is because Floyd's defense is superb, otherwise those body shots can hurt Floyd or even a vicious hook by Hatton.
Right now, I have it 50/50 as to who will win, and I think most proper fans will accept this fight will be close.
However, one thing I really don't get is people saying Hatton is going to be stopped. On cuts, maybe, but Mayweather KOing him? No chance at all. Hatton has a very good chin, and him hanging on against Collazo was more to do with stamina rather, and I don't think he was hurt despite taking big punches when his defence went completely.
He took a lot of good punches off Tszyu, which says something. Tszyu was definetly one of the hardes hitters P4P when he was in his prime - Maybe even #1. And like they always say, power is the last thing to go in a fighter.
Look at how Judah was ridiculed by Tszyu. Now, he lasted 12 rounds against Mayweather, but was KOed easily by Tszyu. This proves Tszyu hits far harder than Mayweather does, so where is the logic in saying Mayweather will KO Hatton? There is none.
People are expecting a Gatti style beatdown which is insane to me. Not gonna happen in a million years.
I certainly think Mayweather can win this fight, but a stoppage win is off the mark by a long way.
they'll stop it because when Mayweather has a fighter figured out he goes for the kill maybe not flooring you but landed clean, accurate, unanswered shots. It's not like Collazo throwing shots missing half the time, it's like left hook lands right hand lands twice, jab to body then right hand lands and with no response ref's stop that kind of consistent head trauma whether concussive or not. Hatton won't be knocked down, but i could see it being stopped.
Tzuyu maybe p4p #1 in punching power? please reword in some way that makes sense. Of our generation? maybe, probably not. Of all-time? NOPE, never, no way.
Boro chris
08-02-2007, 05:07 PM
He will stop him if he sits down on some punches. Hatton is too damn slow and will get hit so many times his eyes will swell shut.
Hatton is not slow. If anything his speed is the only thing that gives him an outside chance. I think he'll force Floyd to react to his FAST remorseless style and try to hurt Hatton to discourage him from his swarming style. Its quite possible that Floyd will stop Hatton late.
PBF sit down on punches? Forget it, Hatton will be pressuring him so much floyd will cover marathon distance, he will be sticking and running not planting.
If movement is considered "chickenish running" to you which is clearly what you're hinting at then so be it. To people that understand love boxing it's great defense and masterful counter punching which you're going to see a lot the night Hatton fights Floyd.
Fab2333
08-02-2007, 05:11 PM
He will stop him if he sits down on some punches. Hatton is too damn slow and will get hit so many times his eyes will swell shut.
yup, Mayweather is a good counter puncher, and Hatton is very slow, his hooks are still a bit wide. He's a decent body puncher I will give him that, but the handspeed difference is going to be his downfall in this fight. Floyd is going to woop him easily. THis is going to be Mayweather vs GAtti 2. Floyd wont have anything to fear from Hatton power wise, so I dont think you will see floyd retreating as much in this fight. He will stand in front of Hatton and basically jab him to death and counter Hatton when he throws his shots. This fight is going to be easy for Floyd
nulty
08-02-2007, 05:12 PM
If movement is considered "chickenish running" to you which is clearly what you're hinting at then so be it. To people that understand love boxing it's great defense and masterful counter punching which you're going to see a lot the night Hatton fights Floyd.
Thats not what I'm implying. Floyds movement is superb, but if Hatton pressures him non stop as Ricky can, when will PBF be able to plant his feet and sit down on his shots?
Caper
08-02-2007, 05:14 PM
I picked PBF by UD or TKO
TKO stoppage not a KO Hatton will not be counted out to strong for that.
Mayweather has never knocked out a guy who was strong enough to keep coming at him.
Sosa managed 12 at lightweight as did Castillo. He most impressive stoppages came against Chcico who looked and fought like he was weight drained and probably was, ndou was a suspect super feather fighting at lightweight and gatti was well past him best and hardly a super talent to begin with.
Hatton will definately be competitibe and will definately not get knocked out!
Still...Mayweather wins on points.
Taffyy
08-02-2007, 05:21 PM
yup, Mayweather is a good counter puncher, and Hatton is very slow, his hooks are still a bit wide. He's a decent body puncher I will give him that, but the handspeed difference is going to be his downfall in this fight. Floyd is going to woop him easily. THis is going to be Mayweather vs GAtti 2. Floyd wont have anything to fear from Hatton power wise, so I dont think you will see floyd retreating as much in this fight. He will stand in front of Hatton and basically jab him to death and counter Hatton when he throws his shots. This fight is going to be easy for Floyd
Come on man be realistic...........Gatti 2...!!!!!!!!!..............I think not mate........To say it is going to be easy for Floyd is a bit naive but if thats what you think then thats up to you...........:roll:
As I have said before Floyd is without doubt the greatest technical boxer of our era but I think if Hatton can enforce his tactics on Floyd & draw him into his type pf fight he can win...........
igotJUIC3
08-02-2007, 05:29 PM
Hatton knows Mayweather is fast but when you experience it....it will really throw your timing and gameplan WAY OFF...this is why Hatton will have trouble....he has not seen this type of speed and movement at all....its another thing to see it on tv or tapes or even live but when your in that ring its way worse and when he finally sees and feels it.....if he doesnt adjust to it while in the fight.....and keep tryin to bully in without a jab.....the fight will be stopped.....you people say we under estimate Hatton but its a lot of you who under estimate PBF's power as well.
igotJUIC3
08-02-2007, 05:31 PM
Come on man be realistic...........Gatti 2...!!!!!!!!!..............I think not mate........To say it is going to be easy for Floyd is a bit naive but if thats what you think then thats up to you...........:roll:
As I have said before Floyd is without doubt the greatest technical boxer of our era but I think if Hatton can enforce his tactics on Floyd & draw him into his type pf fight he can win...........
Floyd ONLY fights his fight...he never deviates from his plan.....Hatton in no way will make him fight his fight...if Floyd fights Hattons fight by trading best believe its Floyds choice.
Thats not what I'm implying. Floyds movement is superb, but if Hatton pressures him non stop as Ricky can, when will PBF be able to plant his feet and sit down on his shots?
Oscar, who was way bigger than him and hits way harder than Hatton, applied pressure from start to finish and Floyd still managed to make it a close tough fight. Castillo did the same twice and those fights were close but Floyd still pulled them off and clearly the second time, don't see how Hatton will do anything WAY different than those guys when it comes to pressure.
younghov2k4
08-02-2007, 05:37 PM
i see Floyd winning by tko. of course it is more likely he will win by decision but Hattons aggression will make it easy for Floyd to land some good shots with.
so yes i def believe he can stop Hatton if a tko counts as that.
igotJUIC3
08-02-2007, 05:38 PM
Oscar, who was way bigger than him and hits way harder than Hatton, applied pressure from start to finish and Floyd still managed to make it a close tough fight. Castillo did the same twice and those fights were close but Floyd still pulled them off and clearly the second time, don't see how Hatton will do anything WAY different than those guys when it comes to pressure.
exactly...with no jab and just coming in bully style.....not good for Hatton...he better find a jab quick....and if the fight is int he middle of the ring....man it could get ugly fast!
Oscar, who was way bigger than him and hits way harder than Hatton, applied pressure from start to finish and Floyd still managed to make it a close tough fight. Castillo did the same twice and those fights were close but Floyd still pulled them off and clearly the second time, don't see how Hatton will do anything WAY different than those guys when it comes to pressure.
They don't need to.
1. If De La Hoya had the same stamina Hatton does, he would have won the fight. Mayweather won it when Oscar got tired. Simple as that. I'm not taking anything away from what Floyd did, by the way. It's not his fault he was the better man on the night, but De La Hoya could have won it.
2. Castillo probably should have won the first fight. In the second, he didn't do anywhere near enough, but when he applied massive amounts of pressure, like Hatton, he was probably the better man.
exactly...with no jab and just coming in bully style.....not good for Hatton...he better find a jab quick....and if the fight is int he middle of the ring....man it could get ugly fast!
Don't expect Hatton to be allowed to apply the tactics he used against Kostya Tszyu either, even if he finds a jab I don't see how it'll totally trouble Mayweather. Might make it more difficult but nothing major, Hatton needs to hurt Floyd and just keep coming with huge bombs over and over, if Hatton's motivation is similar to how it was the night he fought Tszyu then YES it will be an extremely tough battle, if not then Mayweather knocks him out late and we all know what happened to Hatton against Collazo late in the fight, don't forget that it was a close fight that could've gone either way. If Collazo was too difficult and sneaky then what do they expect from Mayweather?
nulty
08-02-2007, 05:55 PM
Oscar, who was way bigger than him and hits way harder than Hatton, applied pressure from start to finish and Floyd still managed to make it a close tough fight. Castillo did the same twice and those fights were close but Floyd still pulled them off and clearly the second time, don't see how Hatton will do anything WAY different than those guys when it comes to pressure.
I see where your coming from but Oscar was fighting in 20 second bursts, Hatton is non stop and he'll come forward all night relentlessly.
Fab2333
08-02-2007, 05:57 PM
Come on man be realistic...........Gatti 2...!!!!!!!!!..............I think not mate........To say it is going to be easy for Floyd is a bit naive but if thats what you think then thats up to you...........:roll:
As I have said before Floyd is without doubt the greatest technical boxer of our era but I think if Hatton can enforce his tactics on Floyd & draw him into his type pf fight he can win...........
Believe wat you want, but Floyd is going to woop Hatton quite easily. Htton doesnt use a jab, and to beat Floyd you need to have a good jab to back him up in the corner, and Hatton doesnt have a jab. THose slow looping shots he throws is going to get picked off. Hatton is going to take a lot of punishment in this fight. And it probably will be stopped from him being opened up by punches. Oscar was able to back floyd up b/c oscar 4 one is bigger and advantage haton doesnt have. 2 Oscar has a great jab, another advantage that Hatton doesnt have. Hatton is shorter, less reach, slower, probably less power as well. Floyd been fighting at 147 for some time now and is a custom to the weight. Hatton had 2 fights at 147.
And FLoyd is just out right better than him skill wise. This is going to be MAyweather v Gatti 2 watch. Floyd is going to keep the fight in the center of the ring and punish Hatton all night
Ramshall1
08-02-2007, 05:58 PM
Only Fraud Groupies are dumb enough to think FMJ will even try to stop Hatton.
BigReg
08-02-2007, 06:00 PM
Only Fraud Groupies are dumb enough to think FMJ will even try to stop Hatton.
Fighters like Floyd really don't go into a fight looking for a KO. Whether or not Hatton gets KO'd depends on how brave he tries to get.
Ramshall1
08-02-2007, 06:02 PM
Fighters like Floyd really don't go into a fight looking for a KO. Whether or not Hatton gets KO'd depends on how brave he tries to get.
the scumbag is a-hole enough to try to hype up the fight by saying he will KO Hatton. . . after he said he was gonna stand toe to toe with DLH, not take a backward step. . . blah blah. . . who listens to this clown anymore?
Pimp C
08-02-2007, 06:03 PM
Hatton knows Mayweather is fast but when you experience it....it will really throw your timing and gameplan WAY OFF...this is why Hatton will have trouble....he has not seen this type of speed and movement at all....its another thing to see it on tv or tapes or even live but when your in that ring its way worse and when he finally sees and feels it.....if he doesnt adjust to it while in the fight.....and keep tryin to bully in without a jab.....the fight will be stopped.....you people say we under estimate Hatton but its a lot of you who under estimate PBF's power as well.
Excellent post I agree. Hatton has never faced someone with PBF's speed, defense and footwork he will be in for a shock when he sees how good PBF actually is...ask Oscar.:deal
They don't need to.
1. If De La Hoya had the same stamina Hatton does, he would have won the fight. Mayweather won it when Oscar got tired. Simple as that. I'm not taking anything away from what Floyd did, by the way. It's not his fault he was the better man on the night, but De La Hoya could have won it.
2. Castillo probably should have won the first fight. In the second, he didn't do anywhere near enough, but when he applied massive amounts of pressure, like Hatton, he was probably the better man.
1) I'm sure you know it by now, Mayweather is one of my favorite fighters all-time and #1 fighter today, and I honestly scored that fight for DLH simply because I believe he did more and was fighting like the challenger when he was the champion that night.
2) I scored both fights for Mayweather, first one too close but second clearly for Mayweather.
Point is, I don't see how Hatton's pressure will be too affective against Mayweather. I mean, it was Mayweather's first fight at Light Middleweight against a proven hard hitting legend in Oscar and Mayweather still handled the pressure without showing signs of going down or being in extremely serious trouble at any time, how will Hatton's blows put PBF in serious danger?, I just don't see it. I'm definitely not hinting that Hatton has 0 chance but if Hatton doesn't bully Floyd around and make it a close ugly fight then he can't win this in my opinion and he won't be allowed to hold and hit the way he did with Kostya all night, even if he was allowed Mayweather will be moving around and will break out of it with extremely fast punches that will keep Hatton backwards. I'm pretty confident that as the fight goes to the late rounds Hatton will already be tried from the punches, not saying that Floyd won't be touched but he'll be in way better shape at that point during the fight and will have the power to land punches strong enough to hurt the already tired Hatton.
Brickhaus
08-02-2007, 06:09 PM
I don't think I've heard anyone who I don't consider to be an ignoramus say Mayweather is going to stop Hatton, or anyone else above 135 for that matter...
Nemesis
08-02-2007, 06:27 PM
Oscar, who was way bigger than him and hits way harder than Hatton, applied pressure from start to finish and Floyd still managed to make it a close tough fight. Castillo did the same twice and those fights were close but Floyd still pulled them off and clearly the second time, don't see how Hatton will do anything WAY different than those guys when it comes to pressure.
you come across as extremely dim :good
you have a schoolboy logic towards boxing, the closest fighter that Floyd has fought that has a similar style to Hatton was Jesus Chavez, and he is nothing like how Hatton fights. Has anyone ever literally pushed Mayweather back (no!), has anyone ever set Mayweather such a gruelling pace (no)
mo only major concern (for RH) is that his body punching will be rendered largely inaffective due to Mayweather's defensive stance
BlueApollo
08-02-2007, 06:45 PM
Is Hatton a better fighter than Gatti? Of course. But is he prone to facial cuts and swelling the way Arturo was? Yes. Is there a decent chance that as the rounds roll on, Hatton's pressure slows, and Floyd lands consecutive accurate power shots upstairs, that Hatton's face will become a mess? Yes. Will it be bad enough for the ref or doctor to stop it? I'd say there's a 20% chance it will be.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. won't stop Hatton. But Margaret Goodman sure could.
you come across as extremely dim :good
you have a schoolboy logic towards boxing, the closest fighter that Floyd has fought that has a similar style to Hatton was Jesus Chavez, and he is nothing like how Hatton fights. Has anyone ever literally pushed Mayweather back (no!), has anyone ever set Mayweather such a gruelling pace (no)
mo only major concern (for RH) is that his body punching will be rendered largely inaffective due to Mayweather's defensive stance
My point wasn't 100% Hatton's style it was AGGRESSIVE fighters, DLH was aggressive against Floyd, Baldomir, Gatti, Castillo(twice), Chavez(thanks for mentioning) and many others. Has Hatton fought anyone like Floyd(Stamina, speed, power, movement, skills), the answer is NO. Get my point now?, and before you call me "dim" or compare my knowledge to a schoolboy's you might want to think properly while reading my post or just save those worthless comments for yourself. I never said that they are 100% Ricky Hatton but the aggressiveness is what I picked from the other fighters and compared with Hatton, it was the "come forward" style not the full package. Hope you get it now.
Shane_Erich
08-02-2007, 08:09 PM
I think the main reason people feel PBF could stop Hatton is due to the fact that he did not look good at 147 and was getting roughed up and hurt late in the fight. If that is a sign of things to come he will get KO'd because PBF is alot sharper puncher then Collazo. That being said-PBF in an easy decision.
Toopretty
08-02-2007, 08:19 PM
The thing his hatton does not mix it up. He does not have that much of an offensive arsenal but enough to whoop a slow flat footed fighter. Hattons lack of jab and reach will hurt him. Floyd will see every single punch hatton has coming. You idiots act like floyd aint been in the ring with a knockout crazed fighter in front of him trying to beat him to a pulp. Matter of fact...floyd whoops there ass worst. Hatton will get stopped late on unanswered punches. HATTON HAS DECENT HAND SPEED BUT HE THROWS EVERY PUNCH WITH HIS FEET PLANTED AND WITH POWER. THAT AINT GOING TO HIT FLOYD. YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOOT A FAST PUNCH QUICK. HATTON CANNOT DO THAT. YOU CAN SEE HATTON PHYSICALLY PLANT HIS FEET IN THE GROUND AND LET LOOSE WITH BODY SHOTS AND HOOKS. FLOYD WILL MAKE HIM MISS AND FLOYD WONT BE THERE WHEN HATTON FALLS IN TO CLINCH. COUNTER RIGHT HANDS ALL NIGHT AND FLOYD WILL FORCE HATTON TO BOX IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING AND HATTON WILL BE A BULL GETTING MATADOR'D.
sonny73
08-02-2007, 09:19 PM
I agree.
Floyd & Calzaghe have by far the best stamina of any active boxers today. They could go 12 rounds easier than most boxers go one. Floyd's coming to box not to KO and he can box all night so maybe his gameplan may be to box hatton into a KO ala the beating he gave Gatti.
Time will tell.....GOD AINT BOXING LOOKING GREAT ALL OF A SUDDEN!!! :happy
Come on,Mayweathers stamina is not that good,he hardly throws as many punches as some heavy weights,having a great defence doesn't take stamina it takes skill,he is class because he wins fights without throwing many punches.Hatton could well land just as many punches as Mayweather when they fight, but obviously will miss more,just depends on what the judges like,aggression by Hatton or technique from Mayweather
Lance_Uppercut
08-02-2007, 09:53 PM
His fanboys predict stoppage EVERYTIME. That should tell you how serious they are or how much they know of the sport.
knockout
08-02-2007, 10:03 PM
Well most people think Mayweather could stop Hatton because hes bigger and he has the style to cause him problems.
Pimp C
08-02-2007, 10:09 PM
His fanboys predict stoppage EVERYTIME. That should tell you how serious they are or how much they know of the sport.
Kinda like you hyping up a guy as limited as Fraudarito shows that you don't know shit about the sport?:deal :hi:
rodney
08-02-2007, 10:53 PM
Because to the number/volume of punches that Floyd Mayweather will land on Hattons face.
Simple as that.
Also ---- Floyd Mayweather is that good.
No1Taylorfan
08-02-2007, 10:54 PM
I believe this fight is 80/20 Mayweather will win. Sorry, Hatton is a very good fighter, but not equipped to take on Mayweather. As to the KO question-- I believe Mayweather CAN knock him out, but he would have to be more aggressive, which opens him up to taking some shots himself.
Ultimately, I think Mayweather will win on points-- why try to knock Hatton out and risk getting hit hard, when he(PBF) KNOWS he can win on points.
It may not be as exciting for fans, but Floyd is about WINNING-- and his best chance to do that is by boxing Hatton and winning 3/4 of the rounds.
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