The Best Night of Their Lives Game

[Russell]

Lets see how long this one can go for. ;)

One poster names a boxer, the next poster names what they think is the best performance in that boxers career. Elaborate on why if you want to add a bit more to this.

Obscure, well known, current, turn of the century... Name whoever you want to. Look and say what boxers have already been mentioned if possible.

Hmm... I'll start with a simple one, with a well known boxer.

Joe Frazier.

[Two Fisted Piston]

Fight Of the Century vs Ali



Erik Morales

[Lex]

Morales v. Pacquiao I.

Surprising, huh? Most folks would name one of the Barrera fights. But Morales was at the ragged edge of the end of a brilliant career against Pacquiao, and this was the new and improved, post-Freddie Roach Pacman. There's no way Erik should have won that fight, but he did. I wish he'd stopped there and gone out in a blaze of dignified glory.

Okay, next... Danny "Little Red" Lopez, one of my all-time fave featherweights.

[JohnThomas1]

Morales v. Pacquiao I.

Surprising, huh? Most folks would name one of the Barrera fights. But Morales was at the ragged edge of the end of a brilliant career against Pacquiao, and this was the new and improved, post-Freddie Roach Pacman. There's no way Erik should have won that fight, but he did. I wish he'd stopped there and gone out in a blaze of dignified glory.

Okay, next... Danny "Little Red" Lopez, one of my all-time fave featherweights.
I'll go for the closet classic, over Ruben Olivares. Tho faded and up in weights Olivares was the 10 to 8 favourite and still a dangerous fighter. Danny showed his usual mettle by coming off the floor (some believe a slip) in round 1 and winning a thrilling slugfest over his idol.

I'll likely get debated on that one....

Super Greg Page

[Titan1]

Page vs Marty Monroe.

Michael Spinks.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Has to be his first fight with The Mallard.


Corny Boza Edwards.

[Russell]

Got to be his 14th round stoppage over the iron chinned Chacon. Ahead quite comfortably on two of judges cards as well.

George Foreman.

[salsanchezfan]

Got to be his 14th round stoppage over the iron chinned Chacon. Ahead quite comfortably on two of judges cards as well.

George Foreman.


...........Russell, if no one has yet, please allow me to thank you for your input here. Your stuff has been great so far, and has spawned a lot of good threads. Just what this place sorely needed.

Foreman was at his terrifying best against Norton.



Arguello? :blood

[Thread Stealer]

Got to be his 14th round stoppage over the iron chinned Chacon. Ahead quite comfortably on two of judges cards as well.

George Foreman.

The night in Jamaica when he nearly took Joe Frazier's head off.

Very few great fighters on the level of Frazier, at or near their primes, get dominated to the extent that Frazier was.

Eusebio Pedroza

...........Russell, if no one has yet, please allow me to thank you for your input here. Your stuff has been great so far, and has spawned a lot of good threads. Just what this place sorely needed.

Foreman was at his terrifying best against Norton.



Arguello? :blood

The Alfredo Escalera rematch. Good fight between 2 excellent fighters, but Arguello was just too much. Dropped him 3 times, weren't they all with left hooks? And his best punch was usually the straight right.

Eusebio Pedroza

[Russell]

I'm completely and totally "green", just to let it be known. But I'm doing my best to be a sponge and just learn everything that I can. I'm glad I'm not just taking things in but contributing too.

I've actually browsed through your older posters too because I've always found them to be some of the most informative ones on here. So thank you. :)

[salsanchezfan]

The night in Jamaica when he nearly took Joe Frazier's head off.

Very few great fighters on the level of Frazier, at or near their primes, get dominated to the extent that Frazier was.

Eusebio Pedroza


..........Pat Ford.


Gavilan?

[ironchamp]

Got to be his 14th round stoppage over the iron chinned Chacon. Ahead quite comfortably on two of judges cards as well.

George Foreman.

His fight against Norton. Surprised? Well before Norton it was Frazier and though he blew Joe out in 2 rounds it was only after that fight that he became this dynamo. He went into that fight with Norton Supremely confident (unlike the Ali fight where he was overconfident) and stopped a cagey fighter.



Trinidad?


Didnt notice the Gavilan post but salsanchez I can admit this is the first time I've agreed with you on something, I too think Foreman was at his best vs. Norton

[Thread Stealer]

His fight against Norton. Surprised? Well before Norton it was Frazier and though he blew Joe out in 2 rounds it was only after that fight that he became this dynamo. He went into that fight with Norton Supremely confident (unlike the Ali fight where he was overconfident) and stopped a cagey fighter.



Trinidad?


Didnt notice the Gavilan post but salsanchez I can admit this is the first time I've agreed with you on something, I too think Foreman was at his best vs. Norton

While Trinidad's biggest wins were probably Fernando Vargas and William Joppy (I thought he lost the Oscar fight), I think he might've been at his best early in his career against Oba Carr. After suffering an early 2nd round KD (as he often did), Trinidad got up and gradually broke Carr down. This wasn't really the plodding Tito we saw later. He seemed better on his feet and not trying to knock his opponent out with every punch. He picked his punches extremely well, and gave Oba a beating until he dropped him 2x in the 8th and the fight was eventually stopped.

Oscar De La Hoya

[salsanchezfan]

While Trinidad's biggest wins were probably Fernando Vargas and William Joppy (I thought he lost the Oscar fight), I think he might've been at his best early in his career against Oba Carr. After suffering an early 2nd round KD (as he often did), Trinidad got up and gradually broke Carr down. This wasn't really the plodding Tito we saw later. He seemed better on his feet and not trying to knock his opponent out with every punch. He picked his punches extremely well, and gave Oba a beating until he dropped him 2x in the 8th and the fight was eventually stopped.

Oscar De La Hoya


...........Chavez II.


...........Gavilan. :(

[Russell]

Hahaha, salsa is laying down the lay and fucking demanding Gavilan. :)

[salsanchezfan]

Hahaha, salsa is laying down the lay and fucking demanding Gavilan. :)


.........Well no one will answer the damn question. :lol:

[salsanchezfan]

His fight against Norton. Surprised? Well before Norton it was Frazier and though he blew Joe out in 2 rounds it was only after that fight that he became this dynamo. He went into that fight with Norton Supremely confident (unlike the Ali fight where he was overconfident) and stopped a cagey fighter.



Trinidad?


Didnt notice the Gavilan post but salsanchez I can admit this is the first time I've agreed with you on something, I too think Foreman was at his best vs. Norton


.........:huh What specifically have we disagreed about? I don't recall.

[ironchamp]

I think you underrate Tyson.

[salsanchezfan]

I think you underrate Tyson.


..........Fair enough. Just Tyson though? I've posted here more often than that. :lol: It's rare I even poke my head into a thread about heavyweights.

[ironchamp]

..........Fair enough. Just Tyson though? I've posted here more often than that. :lol: It's rare I even poke my head into a thread about heavyweights.


True I think one of the last threads I was posting in was the thread about Tyson Holy 91. We had conflicting views throughout. Maybe that's what's fresh in my head

But with regards to other divisions I think we're ok...

[salsanchezfan]

True I think one of the last threads I was posting in was the thread about Tyson Holy 91. We had conflicting views throughout. Maybe that's what's fresh in my head

But with regards to other divisions I think we're ok...


............Variety; she is the spice of life, no? :smoke

[Russell]

Back to the game...? Anyone? :)

[salsanchezfan]

Gavilan! :(

[Lex]

Gavilan! :(
No fan of Salvador Sanchez should be denied!

Okay, I'll bite.

Either...

Carmen Basilio...

or...

that guy on the porch in "L.A. Confidential." :boogie

Next nominee: Carlos Zarate

[OLD FOGEY]

No fan of Salvador Sanchez should be denied!

Okay, I'll bite.

Either...

Carmen Basilio...

or...

that guy on the porch in "L.A. Confidential." :boogie

Next nominee: Carlos Zarate

Alfonso Zamora for Zarate

Joe Brown

[jyuza]

I would have said Wilfredo Gomez for Zarate.

[Russell]

Someone want to throw a name out there, since jyuza didn't?

How about Holyfield.

[jyuza]

Oh excuse me !

Anyway you said Holyfield.

Dwight Muhammad Qawi

Now for Pernell Whitaker

[doublesuited]

Julio Cesar Chavez.

Julian Jackson.

[Russell]

His destruction of a prime Terry Norris. I would of said the Graham fight, but that was more luck than a performance.

Marco Antonio Barrera.

[Thread Stealer]

His destruction of a prime Terry Norris. I would of said the Graham fight, but that was more luck than a performance.

Marco Antonio Barrera.

Some might say Hamed, or maybe even the first Morales fight, but I'm going to pick the rubber match with Morales. After the first two controversial fights, Barrera moved up and won a close war with Morales to settle the score. Barrera was a little more controlled than the first fight, but more aggressive than he was in the rematch. Barrera was supposed to be on the way down but he pulled off the upset.

Erik Morales

[Thread Stealer]

Oscar De La Hoya

...........Chavez II.


You really thought Chavez 2 was impressive?

I didn't think it was too impressive. Chavez wasn't really effective above 140, and he was 36 anyway and about a decade past his peak. Oscar traded more than expected, which gave Chavez more opportunities and allowed him to get more offense going, but still...I'd consider performances such as Ruelas, Gonzalez, Rivera, Vargas, Hernandez, etc...better ones than this one.

[Russell]

Morales was already mentioned earlier.

Could you come up with another fighter, Erratic Behavior?

[Thread Stealer]

Long day.

Edwin "El Chapo" Rosario

[Nemesis]

Alfonso Zamora for Zarate

Joe Brown

Since everyone has ignored this one I'll bite;
Dave Charnley, one of Britains best never to win a world title, an excellent all rounder and a great win for Brown.



Ray Robinson

[CASH_718]

Long day.

Edwin "El Chapo" RosarioHector Camacho SR I thought he won that fight.

Terry Norris

[Thread Stealer]

Hector Camacho SR I thought he won that fight.

Terry Norris

Carl Daniels. Brilliant display of combination punching and accuracy against a pretty good southpaw contender.

Sonny Liston

[CASH_718]

Carl Daniels. Brilliant display of combination punching and accuracy against a pretty good southpaw contender.

Sonny ListonPatterson 1 & 2

Mike McCallum

[Mike T]

Jackson or McCrory


Hearns

[Russell]

Tie between his two round destructions vs. of Duran and a streaking Cuevas.

John Ruiz.

[Manassa]

Since everyone has ignored this one I'll bite;
Dave Charnley, one of Britains best never to win a world title, an excellent all rounder and a great win for Brown.



Ray Robinson

Gavilan II.

Jimmy Carter.

[ironchamp]

Jackson or McCrory


Hearns

Duran is far to tempting, so I'll stick with it.

Torres?

[Mike T]

Willie Pastrano


Larry Holmes?

[CASH_718]

Willie Pastrano


Larry Holmes?Shavers 1 or Cooney

Emile Griffith

[jyuza]

Since everyone has ignored this one I'll bite;
Dave Charnley, one of Britains best never to win a world title, an excellent all rounder and a great win for Brown.



Ray Robinson

I didn't ignore this one :D

[jyuza]

Gavilan II.

Jimmy Carter.

Ike Williams

Billy Conn

[CASH_718]

Ike Williams

Billy ConnJoe Louis 1

Again Emile Griffith

[jyuza]

Joe Louis 1

Again Emile Griffith

This one is hard. I would say Kid Paret II

Now a good one : Roberto Duran

[CASH_718]

This one is hard. I would say Kid Paret II

Now a good one : Roberto DuranThat's easy SRL 1

Bernard Hopkins(this should be easy)

[jyuza]

That's easy SRL 1

Bernard Hopkins(this should be easy)

Tito Trinidad of course.

Marvin Hagler ?

[ThePlugInBabies]

Tito Trinidad of course.

Marvin Hagler ?

'the war' v hearns in '85.

nigel benn?

[jyuza]

Well, i would argue that Hopkin´s performance against Johnson was better than his performance in the Trinidad fight.

Well, in the Johnson fight Bernard was at his physical prime no doubt about it.
But his career best night was definitely against a prime young undefeated Tito Trinidad. Plus he was much more masterful with Tito than he was against a non-stop coming forward Johnson.
So, for me, it is Tito :good

[Lex]

I gotta go back to Emile Griffith...

I'd pick his second fight against Benvenuti. Nino was bigger, stronger and really gave Emile difficulty in every match.

Griffith had more important wins in his career, but this one was pretty impressive.

Lessee... I'm gonna toss in Carmen Basilio. Should be fun.

[MrSmall]

Nigel Benn would probably be McLellan.

John Ruiz? :D

[C. M. Clay II]

I gotta go back to Emile Griffith...

I'd pick his second fight against Benvenuti. Nino was bigger, stronger and really gave Emile difficulty in every match.

Griffith had more important wins in his career, but this one was pretty impressive.

Lessee... I'm gonna toss in Carmen Basilio. Should be fun.

Robinson I

Jack Dempsey

[OLD FOGEY]

Willard.

Again: Eckhard Dagge

Emile Griffith

Joe Shugrue (let's make this a bit tougher)

[My dinner with Conteh]

Tobkhan: Have you ever seen the Griffith fight? I know the crowd roundly booed the decision but both Boxing News and Ring had Dagge winning.

[Titan1]

Hector Camacho SR I thought he won that fight.

Terry Norris

Nice pick, but personally, I thought his destruction of Edwin Viruet was awesome.

[Russell]

Someone pick a name and keep this going...

[quintonjacksonfan]

Larry Holmes

[Russell]

I'd probably say blowing Lounghran out of there in three. Very, very few men did that in a career that spanned almost 200 fights.

John Conteh.

[TBooze]

He never truly did himself justice once he won the title, but going to Denmark and beating the forever unlucky Yaqui Lopez was Conteh's best win IMO.


Keep going with 70s 175lbers... Matthew Saad Muhammad (Franklin)

[Russell]

Hehhee, round about! His wrecking of Conteh comes to mind.

Harry Greb...

[red cobra]

Tom Sharkey's best moment in his career came against Jim Jeffries in what was an epic. give and take struggle, from what I have read about it. Try Willie Pastrano.

[TBooze]

Tom Sharkey's best moment in his career came against Jim Jeffries in what was an epic. give and take struggle, from what I have read about it. Try Willie Pastrano.

Rex Layne had seen better days so I say his best win was to snap Harold Johnson's seven year unbeaten run.

Ray Robinson...

[OLD FOGEY]

So, what was his performance?

He knocked out Benny Leonard.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Hehhee, round about! His wrecking of Conteh comes to mind.

Harry Greb...


Conteh was completely shot by the time of the rematch. He hadn't much left in their first encounter, while Saad was at his peak. And the decision was disputed (hence the rematch). John of 1974 beats 1979 Saad easy.

[Manassa]

Rex Layne had seen better days so I say his best win was to snap Harold Johnson's seven year unbeaten run.

Ray Robinson...

Gavilan II.

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Paul 'Scrap Iron' Ryan.