Mundine v Pintos

[ipswich express]

A little birdy tells me that this will be moved from Perth to Sydney. No doubt the Perth fans will be absolutely gutted... :lol:

[LeonMcS]

As barren as this place is for live events I think I'll manage.

[Kegsy]

A little birdy tells me that this will be moved from Perth to Sydney. No doubt the Perth fans will be absolutely gutted... :lol:
:lol:
Ohh well i probably would have attended, due to the lack of boxing here.

[IrnBruMan]

Gee, how is he going to coax Green out of retirement if he doesn't fight this tin can in Perth :nut

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Gee, how is he going to coax Green out of retirement if he doesn't fight this tin can in Perth :nut

I seriously doubt we will ever see the rematch. Maybe in 2011.

[daz52]

A little birdy tells me that this will be moved from Perth to Sydney. No doubt the Perth fans will be absolutely gutted... :lol:


Any reason in particular you can share? Bad ticket sales? Will Cool Willie still be on the card?

[Dr Gonzo]

i was hoping it would be moved to iraq so i wouldnt have to be subject to all the oohing and ahhing from fags at the local pub who know nothing of boxing :(

[Kegsy]

Any reason in particular you can share? Bad ticket sales? Will Cool Willie still be on the card?
Ticket sales were bad.
Last week i enquired about getting the best non-ringside seats & they were like only a couple rows odd sold.:lol:

[daz52]

Ticket sales were bad.
Last week i enquired about getting the best non-ringside seats & they were like only a couple rows odd sold.:lol:

Mayb this will force Mundine to step it up? I honestly dont think that he will do alot better in Sydney?

[perfect jet]

Any reason in particular you can share? Bad ticket sales? Will Cool Willie still be on the card?

Kickett v Elomar now moved to Nov 7 at the Central Coast Leagues Club.

[WhataRock]

Kickett v Elomar now moved to Nov 7 at the Central Coast Leagues Club.

That appears to be a Nitro format card Kegs..

How many rounds will the fight be over??

Edit..Sorry Perfect I gave Kegs credit for your scoop...must have slight dyslexia.

[LeonMcS]

Originally posted by Kegsy
Ticket sales were bad.
Last week i enquired about getting the best non-ringside seats & they were like only a couple rows odd sold.

One of the few times the residents of WA have demonstrated good taste.

[Hmmm]

Basically what this means is that Green has made it clear he will NOT be fighting Choc again. End of story.

So now there's no real need to have it in perth.

[Kegsy]

That appears to be a Nitro format card Kegs..

How many rounds will the fight be over??
Yeah that card is very different to the 1 thats on boxrec at the moment.
Only a couple of those fights remain as they stand.
Should be about 8 matches, with only the main event Kickett vs Elomar over 10 probably.
All the rest will be 6 or 4 rounders.

[Kegsy]

Kickett v Elomar now moved to Nov 7 at the Central Coast Leagues Club. :good

[Kegsy]

Mayb this will force Mundine to step it up? I honestly dont think that he will do alot better in Sydney?
I dont think it will either.
I doubt they actually sold much more than a couple hundred tickets thus far at Challenge Stadium.

[kel]

Hopefully they now realise the gravy train has finally come to a sudden halt, throw in the credit crunch and no more nice little pay days for the mouth :lol:

[pecks]

Hopefully they now realise the gravy train has finally come to a sudden halt, throw in the credit crunch and no more nice little pay days for the mouth :lol:I think they're moving it to Sydney so that they can cater for more people.
I hear Telstra stadium and Khoder have almost come to an agreement on the venue for this fight.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Honestly guys. I think its funny, how everyones bagging ticket sales on here. Really no tickets need to be sold, and everything is still fine. Its PPV.

[JOSEY WALES]

Honestly guys. I think its funny, how everyones bagging ticket sales on here. Really no tickets need to be sold, and everything is still fine. Its PPV. I reckon PPV sales will probably take a nose dive as well , if the live crown is low the atmosphere is going to be shit , but shed no tear for the atmosphere it will soon have the only MIDDLEWEIGHT is outa Mongolia's head to keep it company :yep

[BoxingTrashTalk]

I reckon PPV sales will probably take a nose dive as well , if the live crown is low the atmosphere is going to be shit , but shed no tear for the atmosphere it will soon have the only MIDDLEWEIGHT is outa Mongolia's head to keep it company :yep

They haven't over the past 24 months.

[JOSEY WALES]

They haven't over the past 24 months. You can only squeeze the Lemon until its dry Trash mate, :deal

Question ? Does Mandy read ESB like Joe , Kelly , & Nate does ?

[BoxingTrashTalk]

You can only squeeze the Lemon until its dry Trash mate, :deal

Question ? Does Mandy read ESB like Joe , Kelly , & Nate does ?

Of course.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

I could drop another hint. Felix Sturm is set to be sparring with Manny Pacquaio this week. Someone else was in the same gym the other day.

[JOSEY WALES]

Of course. :hi: Mandy ,

[JOSEY WALES]

I could drop another hint. Felix Sturm is set to be sparring with Manny Pacquaio this week. Someone else was in the same gym the other day. Tell Amir to stay there and listen to the coaching :good

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Tell Amir to stay there and listen to the coaching :good

:lol:

[JOSEY WALES]

So then you are claiming to be in the States with Mandy now aye ? ( Now Aye ) ? Fuck im starting to think in Australian now FFS . lol

[TheDuke]

BoxingTrashTalk types coherent sentences

[JOSEY WALES]

BoxingTrashTalk types coherent sentences Ive been awake 27 hours ,

[perfect jet]

I think they're moving it to Sydney so that they can cater for more people.
I hear Telstra stadium and Khoder have almost come to an agreement on the venue for this fight.

I'm hearing The Whitlam Centre, Liverpool is the new venue.

Slightly smaller than Telstra Stadium. :lol:

[teke]

I could drop another hint. Felix Sturm is set to be sparring with Manny Pacquaio this week. Someone else was in the same gym the other day.Choc you are da man :deal:happy

[JOSEY WALES]

Choc you are da man :deal:happy Hook Line & sinker ,
Nice work GAV :deal

[Hmmm]

didnt i say he was gav.....

[teke]

I dont think its gav.

Ajay would be closer :D

[TheDuke]

Josey, I wasn't having a go at you. I was ruling out the possibility of him being Mundine.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Might have to stop Daniel Geale and take his IBO belt (January). Before a bout with Sturm. Depending on how quickly the fight with Sturm can be organized.

[Kegsy]

Might have to stop Daniel Geale and take his IBO belt (January). Before a bout with Sturm. Depending on how quickly the fight with Sturm can be organized.
Alot of things are MIGHT with Mandy.

[JOSEY WALES]

Josey, I wasn't having a go at you. I was ruling out the possibility of him being Mundine. No worries Duke mate :good

[JOSEY WALES]

Might have to stop Daniel Geale and take his IBO belt (January). Before a bout with Sturm. Depending on how quickly the fight with Sturm can be organized. That would make a lot of sense the IBO title is being recognised amongst the ABC's a lot more these days , why not fight Danny boy it would get Mundine more props and (Prestige) than fighting that fella he's bout to launch next . anyway like i said the next year is going to be crucial in Mandy's career . SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT . :deal

[daz52]

That would make a lot of sense the IBO title is being recognised amongst the ABC's a lot more these days , why not fight Danny boy it would get Mundine more props and (Prestige) than fighting that fella he's bout to launch next . anyway like i said the next year is going to be crucial in Mandy's career . SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT . :deal

We all would have liked alot of these years to have been crucial in Mundines career... What can you do? If he really wants respect? If i had it my way:

Fight this Pintos taxi driver then:

Geale
Sturm
Pavlik

[greenghost]

We all would have liked alot of these years to have been crucial in Mundines career... What can you do? If he really wants respect? If i had it my way:

Fight this Pintos taxi driver then:

Geale
Sturm
Pavlik

That quote sounds very familiar.....
"Fight this guy", and then..........?

How many this guy's and then... can he keep fighting?

[BoxingTrashTalk]

We all would have liked alot of these years to have been crucial in Mundines career... What can you do? If he really wants respect? If i had it my way:

Fight this Pintos taxi driver then:

Geale
Sturm
Pavlik

I'll give you my honest intake of what will likely happen over the next 12-18 months.

Definite : Sturm

Likely : Geale (January), with Sturm not taking the voluntary.

September : (Vacant IBF title), Or Contender type fighter such as Espino.

2010 : Whoever is still fighting and winning out of Abraham, Pavlik or Hopkins.

If Anthony fights to his potential he can beat any fighter in the world from 160 to 168.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

That would make a lot of sense the IBO title is being recognised amongst the ABC's a lot more these days , why not fight Danny boy it would get Mundine more props and (Prestige) than fighting that fella he's bout to launch next . anyway like i said the next year is going to be crucial in Mandy's career . SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT . :deal

I have a few questions to ask. Is everyone upset with Anthony because of his talent? Or personality?

Its going to come out of left field. But in 18 months time, Mundine will be in 24/7 pre fight videos etc etc.

[teke]

Its going to come out of left field. But in 18 months time, Mundine will be in 24/7 pre fight videos etc etc.Holy shit Bro :lol::lol:

Now thats confidence right there :deal

[Kegsy]

Holy shit Bro :lol::lol:

Now thats confidence right there :deal
More like bullshit.:deal

[JOSEY WALES]

I have a few questions to ask. Is everyone upset with Anthony because of his talent? Or personality?

Its going to come out of left field. But in 18 months time, Mundine will be in 24/7 pre fight videos etc etc. Mate Mandy's talent has never been in question as far as im concerened , he is a quality fighter . however any respect i had for him vanished up in smoke along with the Union Jack he burned in his "pop video" , also i have seen him on Aussie Tv calling himself the champ and saying shit to the host like yea man Joe Calzaghe is ducking me when we all know it ain't the case , remember Joe had the Real WBA Supper middle weight belt and Mundine was down under calling himself the Champ , :-( he fights blokes like Ric chong lee etc and rates himself as the "Best thats ever been " , He refused to fight Kessler for the Vacant REAL WBA titte and threw it in the bin rather than face the Dane , Then we hear he is going to Middle Weight to take on the best there is but fights Soliman again ( No Diss Sam Soliman ) A Nelly Kim type middle at catch weight and an unheared of Urugyan middle Weight ( Their only one ) so yes its a mixture of ambition and talking a complete load of bollocks out side of the ring that makes me dislike a fighter i once admired . :good

[JOSEY WALES]

Holy shit Bro :lol::lol:

Now thats confidence right there :deal :patsch

[ajay11]

I dont think its gav.

Ajay would be closer :D

Fuck of you brown tongue lizzard, have never used any other name but my own on this site.

As for the comment .... don't understand the connection to the thread and I've never been to the US and never will with my criminal history.

What can I say.....I was young and had addictions to drugs, money and pussy....I spent money on transvestite prostitutes and needed drugs to relax the muscles around my anus....

as I said, I don't use any other name here or in real life, except Frak, Gloria and Nancy. :smooch

[ipswich express]

Mate Mandy's talent has never been in question as far as im concerened , he is a quality fighter . however any respect i had for him vanished up in smoke along with the Union Jack he burned in his "pop video" , also i have seen him on Aussie Tv calling himself the champ and saying shit to the host like yea man Joe Calzaghe is ducking me when we all know it ain't the case , remember Joe had the Real WBA Supper middle weight belt and Mundine was down under calling himself the Champ , :-( he fights blokes like Ric chong lee etc and rates himself as the "Best thats ever been " , He refused to fight Kessler for the Vacant REAL WBA titte and threw it in the bin rather than face the Dane , Then we hear he is going to Middle Weight to take on the best there is but fights Soliman again ( No Diss Sam Soliman ) A Nelly Kim type middle at catch weight and an unheared of Urugyan middle Weight ( Their only one ) so yes its a mixture of ambition and talking a complete load of bollocks out side of the ring that makes me dislike a fighter i once admired . :good

Must admit, I've got no problems what so ever with him burning the Union Jack. JMO, but it's a flag that represents colonial oppression. Apart from all that, I reckon the union will be over within the next 10 years or so. The movement in Scotland is strong and getting stronger. What's it like in your part of the woods Josey?

[teke]

What can I say.....I was young and had addictions to drugs, money and pussy....I spent money on transvestite prostitutes and needed drugs to relax the muscles around my anus....
Throw a little love Marcus's way and i have no doubt you could get a tranny for free

[JOSEY WALES]

Must admit, I've got no problems what so ever with him burning the Union Jack. JMO, but it's a flag that represents colonial oppression. Apart from all that, I reckon the union will be over within the next 10 years or so. The movement in Scotland is strong and getting stronger. What's it like in your part of the woods Josey? The Union will never be over as in seperate countries for the Scots and us Welsh and the English we will always all be tied together in one way or another , i was talking to a few Scots last week up in Ayr Scotland and on this we all agreed . I myself would never burn a Danish flag because 400 years ago the vikins oppressed our little rock in the North Atlantic and feel Mundine's actions were not only a direct INSULT to my Forefathers who died defending this Island but to Every Member of the Commonwealth ( including Austarlia ) who has the Jack on their flag , it was a direct FUCK OFF to Australia as well but hidden under the pretence it was directed to the UK only , seeing as you asked .

[JOSEY WALES]

Btw Ippy if Cook didn't run into the landmass now known today as Australia some other cunt would have , ie the Japs etc so i think you got a good deal out of it as it provided an English speaking haven for your family to settle in . i just wonder what will become of your island when you do eventually let go of the apron strings ? it all ain't beer and skittles when your an island on your own , especially when a cunt with a massive army is poised 26 miles away across the drink eyeing your island up as an extention to his empire as was the case in 39 when that cunt Adolph was in his pomp :lol:

[ipswich express]

Don't disagree with your sentiments about someone else finding it, no doubt they would've. As I stated, it's just my opinion. Quite personally, I don't think there'll be a single change when Australia becomes a republic. It didn't happen in Canada, South Africa or anywhere else. Whatever relationship exists now won't change that drastically IMO.

If someone were to attempt to invade now, I don't think Britain would leap at the chance to get involved anyway. They didn't in Vietnam (not that that war was legitimate) and certainly not in East Timor when things could've gone completely pair shaped with Indonesia.

[JOSEY WALES]

Don't disagree with your sentiments about someone else finding it, no doubt they would've. As I stated, it's just my opinion. Quite personally, I don't think there'll be a single change when Australia becomes a republic. It didn't happen in Canada, South Africa or anywhere else. Whatever relationship exists now won't change that drastically IMO.

If someone were to attempt to invade now, I don't think Britain would leap at the chance to get involved anyway. They didn't in Vietnam (not that that war was legitimate) and certainly not in East Timor when things could've gone completely pair shaped with Indonesia.

:tired
Listen mate if Australia was invaded or under direct attack I MYSELF would come running , when we stood alone ( And we were fucking alone for a long time ) we will never forget the debt we owe our allies especiall the Anzac forces and neither would the UK parliment ( no matter what fucked up party were in power ) the British public wouldn't stand for it , As for Vietnam well thats a conflict im proud our goverment didn't get us involved in and Auusie wouldn't have either if they didn't feel geographicaly at threat by the Communists . as for East Timor well who gives a flying fuck what happens there all i know is Australia will never be left fighting alone , republic or not :good

[ipswich express]

I dunno mate, East Timor was one of the few times our Government did the right thing and stopped a human rights atrocity from getting out of control. Of course I'm sure there's ulterior motives, there always is at that level.

I guess really after reading your post that we're in an agreement to a degree. Nothing drastically changes when Australia becomes a republic, and I don't think that day is too far away.

Sounds like a referendum in Scotland isn't too far away either...

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[JOSEY WALES]

I dunno mate, East Timor was one of the few times our Government did the right thing and stopped a human rights atrocity from getting out of control. Of course I'm sure there's ulterior motives, there always is at that level.

I guess really after reading your post that we're in an agreement to a degree. Nothing drastically changes when Australia becomes a republic, and I don't think that day is too far away.

Sounds like a referendum in Scotland isn't too far away either...

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Ippy im not disputing your involvment in ET you had to keep the peace after independance or a blood bath would have ensued however its not close enough to the UK for me to have been concerned with , if you were getting your arse kicked over there you wouldn't have been just left alone , i wonder if the islands were not in such close proximity to Darwin if you would have bothered either ? . Im all for Australian independance as it makes no difference to the UK either way but its a different thing with Us and the Scots going for it , can Scotland finance its own country ? I know Wales would struggle despite all the romantic nationalistic bollocks spouted by people with alterior motives i reckon Scotland would struggle to . here in Wales we are a nation of roughly 2.7 million people and i would say 2-3 % of that figure are immigrants many of whom rely on benefits to survive , we would be fucked as i suspect Scotland would . like it or not 48 million english subsidies both countrys to a certain extent .

[ipswich express]

I honestly don't think Scotland would struggle, if for no other reason than the Texas T lying off the coast of Aberdeen. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out over there. The Scottish Independence movement is gaining strength.

I wonder if Choc and Pintos would be upset at the way this thread has turned out :)

[JOSEY WALES]

I honestly don't think Scotland would struggle, if for no other reason than the Texas T lying off the coast of Aberdeen. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out over there. The Scottish Independence movement is gaining strength.

I wonder if Choc and Pintos would be upset at the way this thread has turned out :) Do you think the Scotish would have all that Texan Tea to themselves ? lol i dont it will be bannockburn Nr Stirling all over again mate with you playing the part of Wallace i suspect :yep
Independance is all well and good until it comes to finance , What part of Scotland are your folks from Ippy ? I was up there last week for work and the work got cancelled on the Monday but i had to stay until Saturday so i went on a tour of the Country , Stranrar is ok Ayr is a quality place looking out to the Mull of Kintyre , Glasgow was just as i remembered it :nut , Falkirk was a good night out on the piss ,I went to Capital down princes St , Scary when sober lol Then i headed North to Perth and Dundee turned back just shy of Inverness , Good people i had a ball , Scots fucking hilerious . 8 hours drive to get home was the only downer :-( BTW this thread turned out more intresting than the fight is going to be probably . :deal

[Sox]

I'll give you my honest intake of what will likely happen over the next 12-18 months.

Definite : Sturm

Likely : Geale (January), with Sturm not taking the voluntary.

September : (Vacant IBF title), Or Contender type fighter such as Espino.

2010 : Whoever is still fighting and winning out of Abraham, Pavlik or Hopkins.

If Anthony fights to his potential he can beat any fighter in the world from 160 to 168.
Where does this logic come from? :patsch
Mundine had his work cut out for him with his last 3 opponents, how the hell would he cope with the best? Mundine has never showed that he can mix it with the A graders and win.

[kel]

Gotta agree with most of Josey's views on these side issues. However i think the republic debate will definately be back on the agenda once Elizabeth passes away. Added to that, wld be Malcolm Turnbull getting into power over the nxt 3yrs.

P.S I found Ippy's and Josey debate so much more uplifting and interesting than the chocolate superman topic :lol:

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Where does this logic come from? :patsch
Mundine had his work cut out for him with his last 3 opponents, how the hell would he cope with the best? Mundine has never showed that he can mix it with the A graders and win.

Okay first of all Anthony is not past his peak. And i will get into this in a bit of detail to help you out. Now Its either 1 or 2 fights under De La Hoya next year, depending on if he beats Sturm, which all he needs to do is make weight.

Now do you honestly think Anthony was going out hard trying to get Hamden out of there? He wanted to drag the Clavero fight on for longer. The earlier he stops the fight, the more the cries of mismatch.

Im not confident a lot of you have seen the fight with Crazy Kim. The guy throws a solid left, and Anthony isn't concentrating and he drops his dukes, well hes going down. The corner yelled "you deserved that, now wake up", (how concerned they were about his chin). It holds up well during sparring, even when sparring high quality fighters, just a lack in concentration from Anthonys part.

Against Soliman 3 he came in with the wrong game plan. He wanted to fight Sakio over the past 12 months, but obviously Sakio had to turn that down. He wanted Kessler after the Danny Green fight, but smartly gave him the chance to unify. Why fight a tough fighter coming off a loss? The logic simply insn't there.

Now if Anthony comes in at anything close to 100% he will beat Paul Williams and i would tip him over Abraham any day of the week. Quintana beat Williams for gods sake. Also Pavlik has looked very ordinary in some fights, sure he looks strong in others, but he looks his greatest when his opponents stand there and want to train. With the right sparring, Anthonys defensive abilities will shine in such a fight.

To say he can't do anything at the top level is not remotely close to being true. Everything in the past has been to get himself ready for 2009/10. This year will define him. And everyone around him (not the crowd) will be backing him up to triumph.

I support boxers for what they do inside the ring. I didn't dump Tim Cahill as one of my favourite soccer players because he did a salute directed at his brother who assaulted someone to the point where they went blind (check that, could be a little in accurate).

I just can't see how it is a shock to you guys, that guy who runs 50 miles a week, has one of the best training routines and work ethics in the sport. And who is naturally confident. Is not going to fight top tier fighters again. Its only a matter of time. Months away now.

[ozziebattler]

I seriously doubt we will ever see the rematch. Maybe in 2011.

With the now trend of old timers wanting to jump in the ring again i wouldnt be surprised if Mundine and Green fight in say 2020 just to boost anticipation.

No point fighting now.Wait 10-20years then sell it off as a real grudge match.

By that time it will be Danny the oldfart surfy bogan Green Vs Sheik Mohommad mustafa Mundine.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

With the now trend of old timers wanting to jump in the ring again i wouldnt be surprised if Mundine and Green fight in say 2020 just to boost anticipation.

No point fighting now.Wait 10-20years then sell it off as a real grudge match.

By that time it will be Danny the oldfart surfy bogan Green Vs Sheik Mohommad mustafa Mundine.:lol:

[JOSEY WALES]

Mate , listen to yourself for a minute ,

You confirm Mundine has been selecting fighters that are not fit to lace his gloves in order to grab the Aussie boxing fans PPV $$$$$$$'s then he has to carry them around a ring to make it appear he ain't fighting scrubs ,

Then you go onto slagging Paul williams and Quintana out and indicate Abrahams would be in for a hiding as well , not to mention the lame as fuck excuse as to why he ducked Mundine & all he has to do is show up and make weight to beat current middle champ strum lol

Mate Mundine is in for a shock pretty soon but not as big a shock as your in for when it happens ,

Good luck though i can't fault you for your loyalty towards your favorite fighter . hope you get well soon :good

[JOSEY WALES]

Gotta agree with most of Josey's views on these side issues. However i think the republic debate will definately be back on the agenda once Elizabeth passes away. Added to that, wld be Malcolm Turnbull getting into power over the nxt 3yrs.

P.S I found Ippy's and Josey debate so much more uplifting and interesting than the chocolate superman topic :lol: :lol:

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Mate , listen to yourself for a minute ,

You confirm Mundine has been selecting fighters that are not fit to lace his gloves in order to grab the Aussie boxing fans PPV $$$$$$$'s then he has to carry them around a ring to make it appear he ain't fighting scrubs ,

Then you go onto slagging Paul williams and Quintana out and indicate Abrahams would be in for a hiding as well , not to mention the lame as fuck excuse as to why he ducked Mundine & all he has to do is show up and make weight to beat current middle champ strum lol

Mate Mundine is in for a shock pretty soon but not as big a shock as your in for when it happens ,

Good luck though i can't fault you for your loyalty towards your favorite fighter . hope you get well soon :good

You need to see some things for the way they are Josey. Froch is nothing more then a glorified RSL fighter. Jean Pascal can't take a good shot. Shannon Taylor went 12 with Abraham. At 160, Abrahams power is vastly over rated. Pavlik is there waiting to loose. In fact i think Hopkins might do him on saturday night.

I don't think a lot of you recognize how close he is to the other top fighters. Working behind the scenes, getting the chances to watch the likes of Mikkel Kessler, Lucian Bute and Joe Calzaghe spar. Although the Calzaghe was an open training day.

A lot of you here. Actually have a deep hatred for Mundine. Yet you try to act neutral in a majority of the discussion. With that deep hatred burning deep down inside. And when the chance is here to ridicule him, like this thread, you unleash it. Im not fooled.

No ones in for a shock here. Some people are actually tipping Geale to beat him. Says everything really.

[daz52]

You need to see some things for the way they are Josey. Froch is nothing more then a glorified RSL fighter. Jean Pascal can't take a good shot. Shannon Taylor went 12 with Abraham. At 160, Abrahams power is vastly over rated. Pavlik is there waiting to loose. In fact i think Hopkins might do him on saturday night.

I don't think a lot of you recognize how close he is to the other top fighters. Working behind the scenes, getting the chances to watch the likes of Mikkel Kessler, Lucian Bute and Joe Calzaghe spar. Although the Calzaghe was an open training day.

A lot of you here. Actually have a deep hatred for Mundine. Yet you try to act neutral in a majority of the discussion. With that deep hatred burning deep down inside. And when the chance is here to ridicule him, like this thread, you unleash it. Im not fooled.

No ones in for a shock here. Some people are actually tipping Geale to beat him. Says everything really.
You call people glorified RSL fighters and cant take a shot?! Anthony fights Clavero, Nievas, Crazy Kim... Well what the hell do you rate them as ?!

You know what i agree you cant fight the big fight every time but that DOES NOT mean you have to PAY THE WBA to rank bums so you can fight them... Why couldnt he fight the number 1 ranked WBA as a voluntary or even the number 5 or 6.... Im not saying im an expert but i know a little something about boxing ... When you get injued the way Choc has, fight the oppositon he has, get as old as he is you lose your prime and it HAS shown in his past 5 or 6 bouts... I dont hate Mundine but im not a nut hugger either... When he FINALLY decides to fight someone who can fight back LEGITIMATELY i will support him but until then if he just wants to run around and bullshit the public he gets no love...

Oh and BTW he has NEVER been a legitmate world champion

[BoxingTrashTalk]

You call people glorified RSL fighters and cant take a shot?! Anthony fights Clavero, Nievas, Crazy Kim... Well what the hell do you rate them as ?!

You know what i agree you cant fight the big fight every time but that DOES NOT mean you have to PAY THE WBA to rank bums so you can fight them... Why couldnt he fight the number 1 ranked WBA as a voluntary or even the number 5 or 6.... Im not saying im an expert but i know a little something about boxing ... When you get injued the way Choc has, fight the oppositon he has, get as old as he is you lose your prime and it HAS shown in his past 5 or 6 bouts... I dont hate Mundine but im not a nut hugger either... When he FINALLY decides to fight someone who can fight back LEGITIMATELY i will support him but until then if he just wants to run around and bullshit the public he gets no love...

Oh and BTW he has NEVER been a legitmate would champion

You honeslty think Froch has a better record then Anthony. :lol:

Anthony has fought some very tough fights early on in his career.

Froch has fought 20 rsl fighters, and now thinks he deserves a big fight. Its ludicrous. I noticed how Josey laughed when Anthony demanded the winner of Pavlik - Hopkins at the De La Hoya luncheon. Well Froch is more out of his league demanding Taylor.

I can't stay around posting on here. I don't think others would think this is a wise idea.

But theres to much hate. Maybe you guys should jump in the ring with Kessler? Or Danny Green?

Anyways my brief time on here was good. :hi:

[JOSEY WALES]

You need to see some things for the way they are Josey. Froch is nothing more then a glorified RSL fighter. Jean Pascal can't take a good shot. Shannon Taylor went 12 with Abraham. At 160, Abrahams power is vastly over rated. Pavlik is there waiting to loose. In fact i think Hopkins might do him on saturday night.

I don't think a lot of you recognize how close he is to the other top fighters. Working behind the scenes, getting the chances to watch the likes of Mikkel Kessler, Lucian Bute and Joe Calzaghe spar. Although the Calzaghe was an open training day.

A lot of you here. Actually have a deep hatred for Mundine. Yet you try to act neutral in a majority of the discussion. With that deep hatred burning deep down inside. And when the chance is here to ridicule him, like this thread, you unleash it. Im not fooled.

No ones in for a shock here. Some people are actually tipping Geale to beat him. Says everything really.

Mate your not the only one to watch top lads spar and i go to my fair share of live fights also , Froch will show you he belongs in the upper tier of S.Midldeweights come december , as for hating Mundine ? well hatred would be too strong a description for my opinion on the bolke , Sure i dislike him and his big headed arrogant attitude when in effect he has done fek all in his career to warrant him swaning around the gold coast signing autographs claiming to be the WBA champ and bullshitting people into beliving Joe Calzaghe etc are all ducking him , Hopkins won't beat Pavlik either and neither will Mundine if he ever step up to world class level again .

[JOSEY WALES]

You honeslty think Froch has a better record then Anthony. :lol:

Anthony has fought some very tough fights early on in his career.

Froch has fought 20 rsl fighters, and now thinks he deserves a big fight. Its ludicrous. I noticed how Josey laughed when Anthony demanded the winner of Pavlik - Hopkins at the De La Hoya luncheon. Well Froch is more out of his league demanding Taylor.

I can't stay around posting on here. I don't think others would think this is a wise idea.

But theres to much hate. Maybe you guys should jump in the ring with Kessler? Or Danny Green?

Anyways my brief time on here was good. :hi: I thought you were staying around here for a while ? :huh

[daz52]

You honeslty think Froch has a better record then Anthony. :lol:

Anthony has fought some very tough fights early on in his career.

Froch has fought 20 rsl fighters, and now thinks he deserves a big fight. Its ludicrous. I noticed how Josey laughed when Anthony demanded the winner of Pavlik - Hopkins at the De La Hoya luncheon. Well Froch is more out of his league demanding Taylor.

I can't stay around posting on here. I don't think others would think this is a wise idea.

But theres to much hate. Maybe you guys should jump in the ring with Kessler? Or Danny Green?

Anyways my brief time on here was good. :hi:

I didnt say, nor do i think Froch record is any better than Anthonys... Mundine has fought the much better fighters no doubt... What im saying is you call Froch an RSL fighters but certainly fighting him is better then Crazy Freakin Kim?

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Mate your not the only one to watch top lads spar and i go to my fair share of live fights also , Froch will show you he belongs in the upper tier of S.Midldeweights come december , as for hating Mundine ? well hatred would be too strong a description for my opinion on the bolke , Sure i dislike him and his big headed arrogant attitude when in effect he has done fek all in his career to warrant him swaning around the gold coast signing autographs claiming to be the WBA champ and bullshitting people into beliving Joe Calzaghe etc are all ducking him , Hopkins won't beat Pavlik either and neither will Mundine if he ever step up to world class level again .

You don't know what your on about. I could hurl insults all day. But i think you have made your point. Which is total nonsense.

You will see some big fights over 2009/10. You will always find ways to discredit him. If you can't see a fight with Stum very soon, then your possibly blind with hate. The Golden Boy Promotions is a done deal.

Its not wise me being opinionated and posting etc etc.

Cya. Might come back on in a few months. :hi:

[BoxingTrashTalk]

I thought you were staying around here for a while ? :huh

I don't think its a wise idea. I'll ask others what they think. Anyway even though we haven't agreed on everything. Its good talking about boxing.

[JOSEY WALES]

You don't know what your on about. I could hurl insults all day. But i think you have made your point. Which is total nonsense.

You will see some big fights over 2009/10. You will always find ways to discredit him. If you can't see a fight with Stum very soon, then your possibly blind with hate. The Golden Boy Promotions is a done deal.

Its not wise me being opinionated and posting etc etc.

Cya. Might come back on in a few months. :hi: Who's hurling insults ? You need to chill out a bit its only the internet :deal if you really are going well good luck to you and your boy , hope he does step up in Class again and proves me wrong ,

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Who's hurling insults ? You need to chill out a bit its only the internet :deal if you really are going well good luck to you and your boy , hope he does step up in Class again and proves me wrong ,

Sorry Josey. All is good. It was a pleasure talking boxing with you all. Thanks everyone.

[daz52]

Sorry Josey. All is good. It was a pleasure talking boxing with you all. Thanks everyone.

Cya soon :hi: :deal

[JOSEY WALES]

Sorry Josey. All is good. It was a pleasure talking boxing with you all. Thanks everyone. Same to you BTT its been good talking to you also , if any of these futue bouts that you talked of apart form the Strum / Sylvester bout come about i will give you your desered props for being "in the know " and sharing it with us mere fans :good

[Sox]

Okay first of all Anthony is not past his peak. And i will get into this in a bit of detail to help you out. Now Its either 1 or 2 fights under De La Hoya next year, depending on if he beats Sturm, which all he needs to do is make weight.

Now do you honestly think Anthony was going out hard trying to get Hamden out of there? He wanted to drag the Clavero fight on for longer. The earlier he stops the fight, the more the cries of mismatch.

Im not confident a lot of you have seen the fight with Crazy Kim. The guy throws a solid left, and Anthony isn't concentrating and he drops his dukes, well hes going down. The corner yelled "you deserved that, now wake up", (how concerned they were about his chin). It holds up well during sparring, even when sparring high quality fighters, just a lack in concentration from Anthonys part.

Against Soliman 3 he came in with the wrong game plan. He wanted to fight Sakio over the past 12 months, but obviously Sakio had to turn that down. He wanted Kessler after the Danny Green fight, but smartly gave him the chance to unify. Why fight a tough fighter coming off a loss? The logic simply insn't there.

Now if Anthony comes in at anything close to 100% he will beat Paul Williams and i would tip him over Abraham any day of the week. Quintana beat Williams for gods sake. Also Pavlik has looked very ordinary in some fights, sure he looks strong in others, but he looks his greatest when his opponents stand there and want to train. With the right sparring, Anthonys defensive abilities will shine in such a fight.

To say he can't do anything at the top level is not remotely close to being true. Everything in the past has been to get himself ready for 2009/10. This year will define him. And everyone around him (not the crowd) will be backing him up to triumph.

I support boxers for what they do inside the ring. I didn't dump Tim Cahill as one of my favourite soccer players because he did a salute directed at his brother who assaulted someone to the point where they went blind (check that, could be a little in accurate).

I just can't see how it is a shock to you guys, that guy who runs 50 miles a week, has one of the best training routines and work ethics in the sport. And who is naturally confident. Is not going to fight top tier fighters again. Its only a matter of time. Months away now.


I personally feel Mundine is past past his peak.
Top class fighters don't get caught by the Crazy Kims of the world. They do get caught by world class fighters like Calzaghe did by Hopkins.
Mundine never wanted Bika or Kessler, that was just salad dressing, when it came to the crunch, he decided to drop to middlewight to avoid Kessler. Yeh right.

You think Mundine is coasting when he looks ordinary, however you think Pavlik just 'ordinary' at times (but isn't coasting). Double standards.

I never said Mundine can't do anything against top level fighters, what I am saying is that he can't beat top level fighters.
Nothing in the past has indicated that he could. Everytime he's stepped it up he's been made to look silly.
This year will not define anything for Mundine except that he has is a good B grade fighter and will only ever fight B grade and lesser opponents.

I support boxers or what they do in the ring too, and Mundine is pretty good in the ring. However he has not backed up his claims. This is what I have problems with.

And it's not a shock to me, I know the guy is fit and talented, however I also recognise he isn't top shelf. I'm not sure why anyone would think otherwise.

The media doesn't make a great boxer, great boxing makes a great boxer.

[Hmmm]

Sure Mundine is past his peak. And yes I did see the Crazy Kim fight. I think Mundine needed that KD too. But take nothing away from Kim he took some whopper shots. At the end of the fight I couldnt believe Kim was still standing.

BTT (trash talk, will call u BTT from now on), this 09/10 greatness you speak of should have been 07/08, and Mundine DID have a chance to make it so. After the 2nd Soliman fight he had NOTHING left to prove but to take on a big name. He proved he can beat cab drivers, KO journeyman who've never been KO'd, KO journeyman who gave P4P champs trouble and took to school a man who went on to be world title holder.

It was definitely time for him to take on a big name but it didnt happen. Instead he has 6 fights of little importance or consequence. But In boxing every single fight takes a little something out of you, and Im sure 6 fights would speed up the clock. In todays boxing when fighters reach their peak and have a title they carefully plan 6 to 8 fights before retiring, not 6 fights till their next big opponent.

Choc will probably beat Sturm, but so what. Lets just assume that somewhere down the track in say 2010 he fights a real big name (eg Pavlik), I really dont want to watch a 35 year old Mundine taking on a Champ. And you cant compare it to Calzaghe who was impressive at 35 coz at that point he was already a well established champ.

Mundine has disappointed many of his fans (myself included) and its now too late to undo the damage.