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Russell
08-02-2007, 10:13 PM
Occupy a place on your all time P4P list?

If so, why?

If not... well... why?

Thoughts on this one? Just how great was he at his prime weight?
Russell
08-02-2007, 10:36 PM
Two of Ezzard's losses, the Bivins and Ray loss, came back to back once he had to basically completely stop boxing to enter the service.

Not to mention he was outweighed 20 pounds by Ray, and he STILL came back to KO Ray and beat Bivins numeros times.

In Ezzard's prime, he was literally nearly unstoppable.

He eventually killed a guy in the ring and that plus age just took so much from him.

Who's above him P4P out of curiousity, in your opinion...?
Russell
08-02-2007, 10:43 PM
Hmm, gotcha.

What do you think Ezzard's greatest assets were?

What holds him back from potentially being a little higher on your list?

How close to unbeatable to you think he was during his best years?
Russell
08-02-2007, 10:48 PM
Ezzard didn't "age" as gracefully as a lot of other great fighters, I think.

Probably had something to do with him being so far out of his best weight, among other things.
Marnoff
08-02-2007, 11:25 PM
How could he not occupy a place on anyone's list? The question is only how high.
Russell
08-02-2007, 11:41 PM
How could he not occupy a place on anyone's list? The question is only how high.

Where does he rank on yours?
Senya13
08-02-2007, 11:55 PM
In his prime he looked almost like a bigger Ray Robinson.
I'd alter that to 'Prime Ezzard Charles looked like a past his prime middleweight Ray Robinson'.
C. M. Clay II
08-03-2007, 02:10 AM
Of course. He is one of the most underrated boxers of all-time. IMO, he is the #1 LHW ever, despite never winning the title. He has great names on his resume and also became a very good / great heavyweight. He's #7 on my list.

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Gans
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Ezzard Charles

:good
Marciano Frazier
08-03-2007, 02:57 AM
Two of Ezzard's losses, the Bivins and Ray loss, came back to back once he had to basically completely stop boxing to enter the service.

Not to mention he was outweighed 20 pounds by Ray, and he STILL came back to KO Ray and beat Bivins numeros times.
A minor correction of here- you're thinking of Lloyd Marshall, not Ray.


In Ezzard's prime, he was literally nearly unstoppable.

He eventually killed a guy in the ring and that plus age just took so much from him.

Who's above him P4P out of curiousity, in your opinion...?
I would have Charles around #8-15 all-time pound-for-pound. Pound-for-pound lists are awfully convoluted for me.
Imira
08-03-2007, 08:04 AM
What do you think Ezzard's greatest assets were?

Personally, I believe his greatest assets were his reflexes, his right hand and his defensive ability.