***Hopkins v Pavlik-Brit Forum picks***

[ishy]

Who you got?

[1stcontact]

I hoping for a Hopkins win (I never thought i'd ever say that)

**edit** not really bothered how he wins just that he does......even if its by headbutt straight right combination does that make me a bad person??

[ishy]

Yea, I think Hopkins can pull off the upset as well. Tentatively picking Hopkins by UD.

[Claypole]

This could be one fight too many for Hopkins. Pavlik to win by a fair margin with Hopkins hanging on at the end.

[nulty]

I've got Hopkins

[JOSEY WALES]

Pavlik

[Claypole]

I've got HopkinsYou will let him go before the fight, won't you?

[nulty]

You will let him go before the fight, won't you?

Lol.

I've got money on hopkins. But nothing I can't afford to lose just sense an upset.

[GazOC]

Pavlik KO.

[icemax]

I think that Pavliks pressure tactics combined with his power might just age Bernard very quickly in there. Pavlik TKO 10

[biglads]

Pavlik UD.

[FLINT ISLAND]

This could be one fight too many for Hopkins. Pavlik to win by a fair margin with Hopkins hanging on at the end.


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[FLINT ISLAND]

I think Pavlik is a quite straight forward fighter.

Hopkins is a crafty fucker and a ring general.

He will school Pavlik and hurt Pavlik and stop Pavlik in about 9 rounds.

I am putting a few quid on a Hopkins win by TKO or KO

[Claypole]

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(Fail.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Fail.


we will see who fails on the predictions tommorow night

you heard it your first

HOPKINS TKO PAVLIK

[FLINT ISLAND]

Pavlik KO.


I know it is Friday night / Saturday morning and understand if you are quite pissed

But whatever you been drinking Gaz better stop now as it is making your mind go crazy

Who has ever stopped Hopkins before - Calzaghe said he was gonna and he didnt come close

[FLINT ISLAND]

This could be one fight too many for Hopkins. Pavlik to win by a fair margin with Hopkins hanging on at the end.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl :rofl :rofl :nut :nut :nut

They been saying that for every fight Hopkins as had for the last few years

I seen enough of Hopkins in the Calzaghe fight to tell me he can school and hurt Kelly Pavlik

[mattress]

Pavlik TKO

[FLINT ISLAND]

Listen Hopkins is a ignorant idiot who thinks he has the wisdom of Sun Tzu

So if Hopkins gets beaten up and knocked out it would be quite satisfying to see not to mention the anticaption and demand for Calzaghe to face Pavlik after a performance like that

However I am making my prediction of my mind not my heart

Hopkins TKO for me

[Claypole]

Who has ever stopped Hopkins before - Calzaghe said he was gonna and he didnt come closeCalzaghe didn't have the power to even rattle Hopkins. With his fragile hands he stopped punching hard some years ago.

Hopkins hasn't faced anybody like Pavlik since I don't know when. Pavlik is strong enough to fight his own fight, and will not get dragged down by old man spoiling tactics. When Hopkins wants a breather, Pavlik won't let him.

I'm not saying Hopkins can't win this, but he can't keep fighting at this level for ever.

[GazOC]

I'm posting from work Flint, I'm as sober as they come. I think Pavlik will be able put Hopkins under enough pressure that he'll run out of steam and be a sitting duck for Pavliks heavy punches. Calzaghe knew he could win even if he didn't pressure Hopkins 3 minutes of every round so didn't need to force the pace (Hopkins was still fucked at the end) or hit him with heavy punches, Pavlik on the otherhand needs to pressure Hopkins in order to win and has naturally pretty heavy hands.

[Diablo]

Pavlik isnt as fast and smart a fighter as Calzaghe. I would like to see Hopkins win and im sure he'll have his moments in the fight.

But Pavlik will prolly win this based on youth overcoming Bernards diminished stamina.

Pavlik MD - unless the judges favor quality rather than volume

[slip&counter]

pavlik dodgy decision

[Small Print]

Hopkins, close but clear decision.

[Claypole]

pavlik dodgy decisionThey're the best kind.

[Fat Joe]

Hopkins TKO. I rewatched a bit of Pavli V JT 2 last night. BHOP will have plenty of opportunities to nail him.

[Ilesey]

Hopkins lands his right enough to win rounds clearly. I see him edging a close decision with Pavlik coming on strong late.

[LiamE]

Gonna stick a little money on the draw.....

[El Cepillo]

Hopkins UD

[jc]

I can see both winning for different reasons. Im a fence sitter in this one...

[robpalmer135]

after seeing the weigh in, defo going for hopkins. he got to pavlik.

[djb2009]

Pavlik UD

[D-MAC]

Pavlik UD

Kelly takes this one on a higher workrate. It'll be close though.

[mrbassie]

Probably another of those Hopkins fights that should be a draw so they give it to the young guy. Pavlik pts.

[brown bomber]

Pavlik 115-113... He'll try and box Hopkins at range. Get nailed and drawn into a bit if a brawl but he'll be too fresh and will take a slightly clearer verdict then Calzaghe. A stoppage either way is highly unlikely, Hopkins is too smart to get nailed by Pavliks predictable punch selection and Hopkins doesn't have the speed or ferocity to wobble then stop the resilient Pavlik nor the one punch power to take him out..

[box3r86]

i really want b-hop to win, dont know why. but i see a pavlik win.

[icemax]

I think Pavlik is a quite straight forward fighter.

Hopkins is a crafty fucker and a ring general.

He will school Pavlik and hurt Pavlik and stop Pavlik in about 9 rounds.

I am putting a few quid on a Hopkins win by TKO or KO

Cpome on Flint, save your money and put it on something realistic like Doncaster Rovers winning the FA Cup and Championship :good

[FLINT ISLAND]

Cpome on Flint, save your money and put it on something realistic like Doncaster Rovers winning the FA Cup and Championship :good

when Hopkins stops Pavlik - the drinks will be on me :D

[FLINT ISLAND]

be under no mistake

Hopkins will have a well disciplined stragey to beat Kelly Pavlik

He nearly pulled it off against Joe a established World Champion but just faded towards the end

In contrast to the modern day champions Hopkins and Calzaghe were - Pavlik is just a young pup with alot to prove compared to them

[mike464]

I really want Hopkins to win but I expect Pavlik to.

[bored]

Same as everyone else, I hope Hopkins wins but he won't.

[196osh]

Hopkins close UD

[Smith]

Hopkins should win for me.

But Pavlik may get a dodgy decision.

[Fat Joe]

Hopkins doesn't have the speed or ferocity to wobble then stop the resilient Pavlik

I think he can with one of those sneaky right hands that Pavlik won't see coming.

[ishy]

As Flint said, Hopkins is a 'crafty fucker' and will make it really awkward for Pavlik. Also, I Pavlik won't punch as hard at the higher. There was an interview posted a few months back on the general forum where Pavlik's trainer said the only worry he has with Pavlik stepping up is that he doesn't have enough snap in his punches, as shown in the second Taylor fight.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Pavlik 115-113... He'll try and box Hopkins at range. Get nailed and drawn into a bit if a brawl but he'll be too fresh and will take a slightly clearer verdict then Calzaghe. A stoppage either way is highly unlikely, Hopkins is too smart to get nailed by Pavliks predictable punch selection and Hopkins doesn't have the speed or ferocity to wobble then stop the resilient Pavlik nor the one punch power to take him out..

Calzaghe thought that too - and was looking up at the arena lights in the first round wondering where he was

[realsoulja]

Hopkins UD Pavlik

Pavlik on the canvas a few times in the process

[PrideOfWales]

Unchartered water for Pavlik - Hopkins is by far the smartest fighter Pavlik has ever seen. Two fights with Taylor can't prep him for this. What happens when regular punches don't work? What happens when Pavlik can't get into a rhythm? What happens when he can't land and finds himself knackered after running around chasing all night? Too many ??'s for me to pick Pavlik for this fight. We all know what Hopkins is about.

The prediction: The general forum will be in meltdown this time tomorrow with use of the words such as "over-rated bum".

[brown bomber]

Calzaghe thought that too - and was looking up at the arena lights in the first round wondering where he was The knockdown was caused by one well timed counter- not a ferocious burst of fast, power shots. My point is Pavlik has demonstrated remarkable resiliance so a well timed counter might well put him over but its highly unlikely that he will score a one punch KO. Additionally Hopkins is not an aggresive fighter... he's unlikely to his Pavlik with anywhere near the tenacity Taylor managed in round 2 of the first fight.

[GazOC]

You can tell when a fighter isn't hurt by a knockdown, they look embarrassed. Calzaghe looked embarrassed, he just got caught a little square and paid the price.

[draw99]

I'm surprised so many people are going for Hopkins - I think Pavlik wins this fairly easily.

[Beatboxer]

Pavlik UD

[Boro chris]

Hopkins ud. Pavlik looks to easy to hit imo. And whilst he's certainly not chinny he can be hurt.

[stuey]

i am taking pavlik by 9th round tko.....

hopkins to moan it was early and demand a rematch...

[fidds]

To be honest i really don't know :think


Pavlik is young heavy handed fantastic work rate and that is everything you need to beat hopkins who is even older now.


But

Hopkins can tottaly ruin any ones game plan and spoil (old man) fighters to fighting his kind of fight, plus im not overly sold on pav's chin and hopkins is sneaky with hurtfull counters.


Ok to conclude :patsch

Pavlik wins this one for me, hopkins runs out of steam and either gets stopped late (i can't beleive ive said that) or loses a ud. Of course i think there is every chance hopkins can catch pav and finish him but he will have to show more then the last fight and im not sure he can do it not at 43 anyway. Old hops is just so cagey :think

[9Ball]

Opinion is certainly divided on this one....and I can see why, there are many ifs and buts which could swing this fight in any direction....

For Pavlik - he has speed, hunger and power (although not really sure at the higher weight).
For Hopkins - he has true ring craftmanship and knows how to nulify opponents strengths.

I see Pavlik showing up good in the first 2-3 rounds but after Hopkins takes his big shots Pavlik will question himself.
Then I see Hopkins take a few scrappy rounds and by the mid point the fight will be pretty close.
The second half of the fight is where it will be won or lost imo.
Much depends on if Hopkins still has enough in the tank. Pavlik will keep coming forward throwing and pressuring and if Hopkins can deal with it I see him taking control in the later rounds and possibly even stopping Pavlik :yikes

I just think that if Calzaghe wasn't fast enough to regularly trouble Hopkins then Pavlik will struggle.

Hopkins TKO Round 9.

However if Hopkins has finally started to feel his age then I can also see Pavlik stopping him early. In which case.

Pavlik TKO Round 3.

If pushed I would have to lean towards a late Hopkins win though :cool:

[FLINT ISLAND]

i am taking pavlik by 9th round tko.....

hopkins to moan it was early and demand a rematch...


what does Stuey know he reckons Haye beats Enzo Macc 10 times out of 10 :-( :-( :-(

Enzo KO Haye in rematch

[TFFP]

Pavlik SD, or very close decision.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if the old fox exposed this plodder as the predictable fighter that he is, just to hedge my bets. A could see Hopkins hurting him early on, when his counterpunching and power is at its strongest.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Pavlik SD, or very close decision.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if the old fox exposed this plodder as the predictable fighter that he is, just to hedge my bets. A could see Hopkins hurting him early on, when his counterpunching and power is at its strongest.

fucking hell TFFP

your avater picture

it looks like Napa is wearing pillows

no wonder he couldnt break a egg wearing those

[TFFP]

fucking hell TFFP

your avater picture

it looks like Napa is wearing pillows

no wonder he couldnt break a egg wearing those
But mate - his power is clearly improving. He put the Belgian Chocolate on his arse, unlike many before him.

I think the size of Napa exaggerates the gloves somewhat.

[TommyV]

what does Stuey know he reckons Haye beats Enzo Macc 10 times out of 10 :-( :-( :-(


That's what everybody reckons.

And everybody knows it's 100% true.

[FLINT ISLAND]

That's what everybody reckons.

And everybody knows it's 100% true.

Bollocks it is

Frogememni the little guy who punches about with the same power pound for pound as Ian Napa nearly had Haye crumbling

If Enzo Macc managed to get his shots off in a remtach

Haye be on the flooor with the ref counting to 100

[TFFP]

He did get a couple of shots off in the first round. At least one jab and a hook I think. Neither did shit.

This is because Enzo's power is vastly overrated. He hasn't knocked anybody good out. He hit Braithwaite with the kitchen sink and did not budge him an inch. Guillermo Jones ripped Big Truck apart. That is the difference between genuine power and overrated power based on a high KO ratio against cans.

[FLINT ISLAND]

But the Bruce Scott KO was truley devesating .........its why I would never give Enzo any grief if I see him in town

Gomez went 7 rounds with him

Johnny Nelson 12 rounds

Enzo knocked him unconcious in 4 rounds

[JonOli]

I have a free £50 bet, I am slightly tempted to put it on Hopkins but I'm just not convinced his work rate is good enough nowadays.

It's a tough one to call, I can't decide for sure - but I will say Pavlik pts UD, and save my free bet for another day. :D

[Redondo5]

i hope Hopkins wins, but Pavlik is the favourite

[alba]

I have a free £50 bet, I am slightly tempted to put it on Hopkins but I'm just not convinced his work rate is good enough nowadays.

It's a tough one to call, I can't decide for sure - but I will say Pavlik pts UD, and save my free bet for another day. :D

i got 9/1 for hopkins to win and 66/1 for hopkins to win by ko/tko in the 8th round.had a few quid on either.

[bigG]

hopkins by clear u/d or later rounds stoppage..not ko...i can just see kelly gassing somewhat after trying to take hop. out for the first half of the fight and hokins turning him and launching an accurate, befuddling barrage....

i cant see a pavlik ko and just think he hasnt enough facets to huis game to do enought for a ud over the wily older fighter...i actually thought hopkins edged the calzaghe fight...and pavlik aint no joe c.......


nb...i have been very, very wrong in the past....haha

[Beatboxer]

Congratulations Hopkins and all those that picked him...the old man does it again.

[mattress]

Man, did I get that one wrong! I gotta admit that BH is a master craftsman. Superlative performance.

[icemax]

Man, did I get that one wrong! I gotta admit that BH is a master craftsman. Superlative performance.

You and me together. Pavlik looked absolutely awful at the weight which was a surprise to me.

Its absolutely insane on the general forum with all the wrestling fans using words like "shot" and "exposed" :-(

[Govanmauler]

i got 9/1 for hopkins to win and 66/1 for hopkins to win by ko/tko in the 8th round.had a few quid on either.

Ka - Ching !

Congrats reilly :good

[Fat Joe]

i actually thought hopkins edged the calzaghe fight...and pavlik aint no joe c.......

From the second I heard about this fight I immediately picked Hopkin's to win using that logic (apart from the Calzaghe losing bit). I couldn't understand how all these Pavlik nuthuggers could use Calzaghe's performance as a reason why Pavlik would win easy.

[D-MAC]

I predicted Pavlik by UD, but I put all my vcash on full distance: ching ching!

Great performance by Hopkins, truly awesome. Pavlik looked flat as a pancake the whole fight, just couldn't get anything going.

[draw99]

I'm surprised so many people are going for Hopkins - I think Pavlik wins this fairly easily.


Which twat wrote this?!

Oh, wait a minute - it was me :patsch

[Imperfect Recor]

I predicted Pavlik by UD, but I put all my vcash on full distance: ching ching!

Great performance by Hopkins, truly awesome. Pavlik looked flat as a pancake the whole fight, just couldn't get anything going.

Agree totally, Pavlik looked haunted at the end of the fight as a clearly emotional BHop gave him a verbal going over. But what a performance from Hopkins; a true masterclass. He made Pavlik look very very ordinary and I don't think he's a bad fighter.

In truth, I fancied Hopkins to negate Pavlik by mauling and cancelling out his big right hand; not by matching him toe-to-toe and out thinking and out boxing him in every department.

The only thing that spoiled it for me, and I don't know why, was that fekin stupid mask. Come on Bernard, you're 40+ mate; but maybe he too wants to fight the Big show on WWE!

[stuey]

hands up. B hop was class. Kelly looked very flat though, maybe the extra pounds did not suit him:huh

all credit the old git. first one i have picked wrong for a while...

[PrideOfWales]

Pavlik is flat, he fights exactly the same every fight. Same pace, same combos. Last night was no different. I've never been blown away by Pavlik and his hype - there are consistant, obvious flaws and if you can move out of his punching range, a decent boxer will beat him. Hopkins is exceptional and the step up to his class (not weight) was just too much for Pavlik last night.

Jeff was correct about Pavlik taking shots well - he took beefy shots in pretty much every round - I thought at one point he was going to quit on his stool but credit goes to his heart and guts.

Hopkins was exposing Pavlik's lack of change of pace - when Hopkins put on a burst, Pavlik couldn't live with him. He just kept plodding forward (when not being backed up). The fight wasn't really that much of a surprise to me to be honest as Hopkins performance levels against Calzaghe were still very high.

[robpalmer135]

i was going for hopkins but didnt think it would be that bad. he needs to stay at 160 forever.

[bored]

Pavlik lost, I am happy. I have predicted wrong again but I don't care. Although I have to admit I am a bit worried that it's 3 wrong predictions in a row now :D

[GazOC]

I picked woefully wrong and await my new avatar from TFFP (I'd guess there will be a turnbuckle involved!!!) but at least this will shut up all the ridiculous threads in the GF about Pavlik at cruiserweight, Pavlik vs Hagler etc based soley on him having beaten the very average Taylor.

[TFFP]

:lol:

Don't worry about it. I can't bring myself to award you a new avatar because Hopkins didn't get knocked out, when I changed my prediction to Pavlik at the last moment after months of claiming Hopkins would own him. I should have stuck to my gut instinct instead of listening to the muppets on here.

[GazOC]

:lol:

Don't worry about it. I can't bring myself to award you a new avatar because Hopkins didn't get knocked out, when I changed my prediction to Pavlik at the last moment after months of claiming Hopkins would own him. I should have stuck to my gut instinct instead of listening to the muppets on here. You still won the bet....

[TFFP]

You still won the bet....
And I spared you. Or maybe, I've gotta think about it.

[SleazeNation]

Come on, I bet you can't find a worse avatar than that ugly bint he's got now.

[GazOC]

Come on, I bet you can't find a worse avatar than that ugly bint he's got now.

:lol:

[TFFP]

I always said it looked like a tranny he got on there. I'm tempted to get him a real ladyboy, but I fear I'm only playing into his hands.

[GazOC]

And I spared you. Or maybe, I've gotta think about it.

I'd rather have the new avatar than be in your thrall...:D

[Fat Joe]

this will shut up all the ridiculous threads in the GF about Pavlik at cruiserweight

I've seen numerous times in the GF, "Pavlik @ HW, he's got the frame, etc, etc"

[FLINT ISLAND]

I've seen numerous times in the GF, "Pavlik @ HW, he's got the frame, etc, etc"

and to think these same people ridculed my Enzo Maccarenelli V Muhammed Ali thread :nut