Hats off to Bhop

[LiamE]

Superb performance by Bernard tonight. So much for Bernard being an old man.

[GazOC]

Yep, amazing. His hand speed surprised me, Pavlik didn't have the speed or the know how to win the fight.

[1stcontact]

Exactly It wasnt even like he turned back the years and became the Hopkin's of old.............that was a whole new B-Hop in there tonight

I havent ventured into the general forum yet but I should imagine the place is in chaos

[JonOli]

Yes well done to Bhop.

[JonOli]

ha ha check out my Vcash...:D granpa popkins served me well...

[Strike]

Didn't really expect Hopkins to do so well, but I am not surprised he won. I have been saying for so long that Pavlik is way overrated, has awful footwork which leaves him wide open whenever a shot does not land and is slow and predictable.

Totally hyped based off two wins, Taylor and Miranda and the latter is not proven at the highest level either.

[fidds]

pavlik over hyped off beating jermaine

Stepped up and fought joe's step son and got lacy'd and people in the genral forum still think kelly beats joe :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Beatboxer]

Very impressive indeed.

[scurlaruntings]

pavlik over hyped off beating jermaine

Stepped up and fought joe's step son and got lacy'd and people in the genral forum still think kelly beats joe :rofl :rofl :roflWho knows maybe Kelly DOES beat Joe. The facts remain the maths are poor. Taylor beat Hop twice. Taylor lost to Pavlik twice. Hop just schooled Pavlik but lost to Joe. Does that mean that Taylor is better than Joe or Joe is better than Taylor? Or does it prove that the scoring in Hopkins Calzaghe was farcical?! Either way its immaterial and insignificant.

A Pavlik Calazghe fight is still a great fight considering both guys styles.Both are very open defensively and both like to slug. That means a knockout for either man.

NO ONE expected Hopkins to do that. He certainly is one of the most amazing 43 year olds i have ever seen. But to be frank his victory isnt surprising its the manner of his victory that is surprising. As iv said a zillion times on the General Forum, Pavlik is a crude slugger. Hopkins proved this to be completely true. The problem with the muppets on the GF is they jump on anything thats new. None of them are old enough to remember the times when Kelly was a protected prospect fighting tons of stiffs.

[icemax]

None of them are old enough to remember the times when Kelly was a protected prospect fighting tons of stiffs.

To be fair Bernard went down exactly down the same route for his first twenty odd fights and then happened upon a certain young Roy Jones Jnr who UD'd him. Was Hopkins overhyped or exposed at this point?

[scurlaruntings]

To be fair Bernard went down exactly down the same route for his first twenty odd fights and then happened upon a certain young Roy Jones Jnr who UD'd him. Was Hopkins overhyped or exposed at this point?Was Tua exposed vs Ike? Both were rising prospects at the time. Jones was on the fast track to being an ATG as he was literally blowing away all competition at 160. Ironically Jones was blessed with an enormous amount of talent. Hop made up for that with SOUND fundamentals and an unreal work ethic. Right now the smart money irrespective of last nights fight would be on Hop over RJJ and his consumate professionalism and in ring style have allowed him to achieve longevity in this sport because of the way he treats his body and his rise in weight. Jones on the other hand went to 200lbs and came back down. That was a catastrophic move at his age. And to think Hop came in 4lbs below at 156 for Oscar?! The man is incredible. He knows his body better than any fighter iv seen in recent years.

[bizzer07]

ha ha check out my Vcash...:D granpa popkins served me well...

same!!!

i knew pavlik would have all kinds of problems.

bet Calzaghes at home laughing

Gary lockett should come back and challenge him again!!!

[headhunter]

Well done Hopkins.

[Fat Joe]

Yep, amazing. His hand speed surprised me, Pavlik didn't have the speed or the know how to win the fight.

His speed didn't really surprise me after watching the Calzaghe fight, until he started tiring he was as fast or faster than Joe who is very quick in his own right.

[Fat Joe]

Who knows maybe Kelly DOES beat Joe.

I don't think he would but I know what you mean, it could be a far easier match up for Pavlik due to styles.

[scurlaruntings]

I don't think he would but I know what you mean, it could be a far easier match up for Pavlik due to styles.No question about that. Joe likes to slug and CAN slug. Pavlik is just a slugger and nothing else. Joe has the busier hands but when he does put butter on them he can hurt you. Toss up fight for me. But stylistically Pav will never beat Hop. As for the Hop Joe fight i scored it a UD for Hopkins. On the back of this we need to see a rematch between Joe and Hopkins.

[scurlaruntings]

His speed didn't really surprise me after watching the Calzaghe fight, until he started tiring he was as fast or faster than Joe who is very quick in his own right.Iv not seen Hop this busy since he beat Tito. The man is absolutely incredible. He looks and fought like a young man last night. Increidble performance.

[D-MAC]

Hopkins: underdog against Trinidad at MW - schooled and stopped him.

Hopkins: underdog against Tarver at LHW - schooled him and put him down.

Hopkins: underdog against Pavlik at a catch-weight - schooled him and all but knocked him out.

Throw in the fact that he is only fighter to stop De la Hoya and Glen Johnson, that he out-smarted ring general Winky Wright, and that all his losses bar Roy Jones were debateable, then you can see that the guy is something special. A true great who would have excelled in ANY era. The sport will be the poorer when he finally decides to hang-em-up.

[berserkafied]

Amazing performance...One of his all time best performances IMO.
I expected him to win a close but clear UD but not a near shutout...Amazing

[TFFP]

That was a virtuoso display in distance management, ring intelligence, counterpunching and inside fighting. Pavlik got utterly destroyed, I am absolutely sure he will never be quite the same.

[Diablo]

Great performance from Hopkins. He really dished out a beating on Pavlik who was clueless what to do. I was kinda surprised with Hopkins workrate but he was setting the pace.

I scored it 119 - 109 for Bernard..but u could have had it wider.

This would be a great momemt for Hopkins to retire, but iv got a feeling Dawson will be next.

[VIP]

Yes, very well done, I thought he would win but didn't expect him to do this well. He is definitely a modern marvel.

[phonk]

Who'd have thunk that Hopkins would have came out swinging.

He fought a truly exception fight. Can we add Pavlik to the list of recent American hype jobs? Two other notable members are Lacy and Taylor.

[mike464]

Hopkins is an absolute legend. That was a amazing, especially at the age of 43. I had it 119-107 for Hopkins although both point deductions looked pretty harsh. Hopkins's putting his hand behind his head trick was very clever. He never explicitly complained about Pavlik hitting behind the head but just put his hand there whenever there was a clinch.

It would be great if he fought the Jones-Calzaghe winner. It's funny, I really wanted him to retire after the Calzaghe fight but now I just have to see him fight again.

[kosaros]

surely his performance ranks in the top 5 of the last 10-15 years when considering all the factors - age, power, work rate, and even speed was all against hopkins, yet he did completely the opposite by looking the younger fighter, having more power, better work rate and certainly better speed to win every round (what i think) of the fight.

[scurlaruntings]

By far the greatest performance considering all factors i have ever seen in the history of boxing for a man that age.

[Strike]

I'm just glad to see Pavlik shown to be exactly what I said he was. No shame at all in losing to Hopkins, but to be totally dominated in every round is something that did not even happen to Eastman and several other fighters who lost to Hopkins.

Pavlik is a world level fighter no doubt, but he has been criminally hyped and overrated based off two names on what is frankly a very very thin resume.

The Pavlik fans have been some of the most ignorant I have come across, claiming he would KO Calzaghe and Kessler with ease, destroy Hopkins, obliterate Dawson.
It is a farce, and if he steps up to Super Middle he will be thrashed by Kessler, KO'd by Froch and beaten comfortably by Bute.

Calzaghe is an idiot for taking the RJJ fight. He could have been the one to shut out Pavlik and he would have done. It would have done his reputation a huge boost in the states and then he could have fought RJJ for one last pay day.

[Max Molyneux]

Who knows maybe Kelly DOES beat Joe.

Pavlik Is as bad as Lacy except his chins worse than Jeff's, Calzaghe would do a Lacy job. Pavlik Is basically come forward which Is made for Calzaghe's style.

[scurlaruntings]

Pavlik Is as bad as Lacy except his chins worse than Jeff's, Calzaghe would do a Lacy job. Pavlik Is basically come forward which Is made for Calzaghe's style.As iv said time and again Pavlik is nothing more than a crude slugger. BUT he does have a better dimension than Jeff Lacy. Joe has many holes in his defense and was bewildered by Hopkins much the same as Pavlik was. Both though were incredible hype jobs but the facts remain it would have made more sense for Joes legacy to fight Pavlik rather than take the easiest route. Jones and Hopkins have everything to win in those fights. Joe has nothing to win and nothing to gain other than increasing his already fat wallet.