Bernard Hopkins - WOW !!!

[teke]

Man was that good to watch.

I knew Pavlik had it coming one day but man is Nard one badass boxer.

I suggest everyone watch this fight even if you dont like either, its great to see how Hopkins executes his game plan.

WOW

[jeffradka]

simply amazing! Bernard Hopkins totally cements his place in boxing history as one of the all time greats! Hopkins is my hero

[Kegsy]

Bernard Hopkins...wat can i say.
An absolute legend in & out of the ring.
The way he offered mentoring advise to Pavlik after the fight was also impressive.
I will never let anyone disrespect that bloke.

[pecks]

Am not really surprised as I've always said that Pavlik is a hype job waiting to be exposed.
If it wasn't BHop, it would have been Calzaghe.

[Bentchassis]

Wow alright. I gave Hopkins a chance but never in a million years expected a 12 round demolition like that.

[teke]

I agree Pecks, like i said Pavlik had that coming.

I just admired Bernard and the way he went about it.

Well done Bhop

[pecks]

I agree Pecks, like i said Pavlik had that coming.

I just admired Bernard and the way he went about it.

Well done BhopThe question is, should Hop still retire?
It'd be a great way to bow out, but everyone said that after he schooled Tarver.
Good win for Hopkins. Maybe he should still retire, as he has nothing left to prove obviously, but at the same time, he still has what it takes to mix it with anyone.

Definitely a worryign fight for anyone in the mix of his division, though Dawson would comfortably get through him imo. Too many tools.

Good stuff B-Hop. :good

[teke]

Send Dawson his way :yep

Another young fighter who wont be the same after he fights one of the craftiest men ever

[Sox]

Not only was it a win for Hopkins, but he made Pavlik look silly.

[Peterp]

wonderful performance. Pavlik had no answer. Pavlik wasn't exposed because no one else other than Bhop could do to Pavlik what he did.

This aggressive version of Bhop would have beaten Calzaghe

[pecks]

Send Dawson his way :yep

Another young fighter who wont be the same after he fights one of the craftiest men everEnjoy the win today teks, but try and keep things in perspective. :nono

[T.C.W]

hopkins was amazing

[sambo1987]

Popkins looked good tonight for sure, very fresh and almost reinvented, BUT come on.. don't forget who stepped up 10 pounds above his weight class to put his undefeated record on the line!

Hats off to Hopkins, but I'd like to see him fight somebody next that hasn't come from a weight class below him.

Pavlik is still the man at middleweight.

[WhataRock]

If Roy wins now that would really put the icing on the cake for their careers and they may have fight..who knows.

What this win means still remains to be seen..Kelly is early in his career and may never go on to do great things.
I for one really like Kelly and love to watch him but its his glaring flaws that make him so great to watch. Someone was going to do this to him one day, didnt think Hopkins had enough left to do it though.

Im not shocked by the win but suprised with the ease old Hopkins did it.

Dib = Dud....I dont think anyone is suprised by that fight.

[T.C.W]

Popkins looked good tonight for sure, very fresh and almost reinvented, BUT come on.. don't forget who stepped up 10 pounds above his weight class to put his undefeated record on the line!

Hats off to Hopkins, but I'd like to see him fight somebody next that hasn't come from a weight class below him.

Pavlik is still the man at middleweight.Fuck me, he is 43 and doing this. It was the most amazing thing I have ever seen inside a boxing ring, Pavlik was destroying people and a 43 year old man just put a beat down on him.

[Hmmm]

simply amazing! Bernard Hopkins totally cements his place in boxing history as one of the all time greats! Hopkins is my hero

So where does that place calzaghe then?

[T.C.W]

So where does that place calzaghe then?below hopkin right now but his career is not over yet

[lefty]

I'm happy for Hopkins winning but not happy for myself, i went to the TAB yesterday to put money down on a Hopkins win but it wasn't on the computer for some strange reason. I left it there instead of asking the worker behind the counter whats going on. I could be rich today :patsch
Pavlik is a good fighter but seriously overrated around here, he beat Miranda and Taylor, not the smartest boxers around. He'd never seen anyone like Hopkins, i knew hopkins was never gonna get hit by many punches because of his defence and smarts and land sneaky shots. He won more comprehensively than i expected though, his workrate was great and we actually saw him be the aggressor at times during the fight. Hopkins pre-fight talk was respectful and giving credit while Pavlik was talking about being the first person to stop Hopkins. Hopkins wanted Pavlik to underestimate him and Pavlik fell for it, i knew the fight was sealed before the bell went.

[lefty]

Send Dawson his way :yep

Another young fighter who wont be the same after he fights one of the craftiest men ever

Let's not go over the top here, styles make fights. Calzaghe would beat him again and Dawson is like a faster more skilled southpaw version of Taylor, his athleticsm would be too much for Hopkins.

[lefty]

tody was bernards day against all the haterz, pavlik and calzaghe would be a total different match. if bhop fought like this against calzaghe even though i thought he won by a point would of beaten him without question.

Styles make fights, that's something alot of boxing fans don't comprehend, Calzaghe would win a scrappy fight again if they fought.

[teke]

Enjoy the win today teks, but try and keep things in perspective. :nonoI am, i didnt say Hopkins would def beat him did i...I said Dawson wouldnt not be the same afterwards. He would know that he was in a real fight :deal

[teke]

Let's not go over the top here, styles make fights. Calzaghe would beat him again and Dawson is like a faster more skilled southpaw version of Taylor, his athleticsm would be too much for Hopkins.See post above.

You would hope Dawson athleticism would get him, he's a million years younger and in his prime.

Styles do make fights and Kesslers style is all right for Hopkins :yep

[roscoe]

Hopkins made this fight like the trinidad fight, he shut out the big puncher & made him look foolish. Very impressive victory & honestly why should he retire if he constantly must us look silly at 43 yrs of age. I'll say this if hopkins fougth taylor again he'd definately beat him.

[JOSEY WALES]

This win more than justifys Old Man Enzo Calzaghe's claim that Hopkins was in a different class then kelly Pavlik , Hopkins maybe a freak but he was well beaten by Joe calzaghe last time out imo , Its all about adaptability and Kelly had trouble adapting to Hopkins style where as Calzaghe showed he is the MASTER of adaptability, This leaves Hopkins imo ranked in the very top tier of Middleweights in history , He and Calzaghe should forget all about fighting Dawson , Dawson is the future we need younger fighters fighting each other , the sport will suffer with its developement when these young belt holders get found wanting they way Lacy was with Calzaghe and Pavlik was with Hopkins .

[sambo1987]

Fuck me, he is 43 and doing this. It was the most amazing thing I have ever seen inside a boxing ring, Pavlik was destroying people and a 43 year old man just put a beat down on him.

Yeah for sure, definatley respect him for doing this at his age, but would have rathered see him do it to a natural light heavy.

Dont get me wrong TCW, I give Hopkins his props, but you have to keep things in perspective, 43 or not he was still the bigger man beating up on the middleweight.

[lefty]

See post above.

You would hope Dawson athleticism would get him, he's a million years younger and in his prime.

Styles do make fights and Kesslers style is all right for Hopkins :yep

Kessler? Why bring his name up? He's not gonna be fighting Hopkins anytime soon :huh Kessler would give Hopkins some problems though, that'd be a really tough fight to pick.

[Rise Above]

Great win by Hopkins, definitely one of the modern eras greatest fighters.

[pecks]

Kelly had trouble adapting to Hopkins style where as Calzaghe showed he is the MASTER of adaptabilitySpot on.
Calzaghe has shown many times that he can adapt as the fight changes, the times he hasn't is simply because he hasn't needed to.

Something Kessler needs to do if he is to become great.

[teke]

This win more than justifys Old Man Enzo Calzaghe's claim that Hopkins was in a different class then kelly Pavlik , Hopkins maybe a freak but he was well beaten by Joe calzaghe last time out imo , Its all about adaptability and Kelly had trouble adapting to Hopkins style where as Calzaghe showed he is the MASTER of adaptability, This leaves Hopkins imo ranked in the very top tier of Middleweights in history , He and Calzaghe should forget all about fighting Dawson , Dawson is the future we need younger fighters fighting each other , the sport will suffer with its developement when these young belt holders get found wanting they way Lacy was with Calzaghe and Pavlik was with Hopkins .I thought Joe was effectively outpunched by Hopkins yet i agree with the decision ie. Hopkins landed the better cleaner punches but workrate let him down.

Adaptability - well i for one call it non stop workrate to confuse the judges :yep

If Split decision means well beaten then...

[teke]

Something Kessler needs to do if he is to become great.Something he will never be able to do

He's 36 or something fights into his career, you and i both know it aint gonna happen

[pecks]

Styles do make fights and Kesslers style is all right for Hopkins :yepYou will see a different Hopkins to the one you saw today if he ever fights Kessler.
Hopkins will go back to fighting in patches and will lose rounds due to inactivity simply because he will have top be defending a lot more.
His workrate will be like it was in the calzaghe fight.

It's hard to land flush on Hop, but I think Kessler's crisp, accurate punches will at least force Hopkins to lower his workrate.

Kessler wins this one imo.

[pecks]

Something he will never be able to do

He's 36 or something fights into his career, you and i both know it aint gonna happenTrue, but to be fair, he's only ever really needed to adapt once in those 36 fights and he failed to do so then.

I don't think he'll get much better than how he is atm though.

[JOSEY WALES]

I thought Joe was effectively outpunched by Hopkins yet i agree with the decision ie. Hopkins landed the better cleaner punches but workrate let him down.

Adaptability - well i for one call it non stop workrate to confuse the judges :yep

If Split decision means well beaten then... Teke , DoYou think for one minute that three American Judges were all fooled by a Skinny Welsh lad fighting one of their ledgends in said ledgend's back yard , NO NO NO , If they could have found a way to give the fight to Hopkins they would have , Face facts Teke old son ADAPTABILITY has won Joe Calzaghe more of his fights than i care to remember he adapted v Hopkins where as Pavlik couldn't ..Ps well done on the prediction , Now all we need is for Lacy to best Taylor and Joe's stock will rise even higher than it is tonight in the opinion of any fair minded Boxing Fan :good

[teke]

I'd favour Hopkins to lower Kesslers workrate dramatically and if he achieves this then the fight is his. He's got everything on Kessler even at this age.

I shouldnt even be talking about this as a possible fight...he should retire

[teke]

Teke , DoYou think for one minute that three American Judges were all fooled by a Skinny Welsh lad fighting one of their ledgends in said ledgend's back yard , NO NO NO , If they could have found a way to give the fight to Hopkins they would have , Face facts Teke old son ADAPTABILITY has won Joe Calzaghe more of his fights than i care to remember he adapted v Hopkins where as Pavlik couldn't ..Ps well done on the prediction , Now all we need is for Lacy to best Taylor and Joe's stock will rise even higher than it is tonight in the opinion of any fair minded Boxing Fan :goodNice one missing out the Split decision bit.

Joe has a high standing in my mind but its just not in cloud 9 likes yours :D

I had a wonderful thought today, actually it was a premonition.

Roy Jones Jnr will convincingly beat Joe :deal:deal:deal

This will send Joes stock to the shithouse

[pecks]

I'd favour Hopkins to lower Kesslers workrate dramatically and if he achieves this then the fight is his. He's got everything on Kessler even at this age.

I shouldnt even be talking about this as a possible fight...he should retireI don't see how Hopkins lowers Kesslers workrate.
If Hopkins is to win, it'll be by countering him and makinf Kessler miss, it'd be an ugly win if it happens.

Kessler's workrate would still be fairly high though imo. Hopkins wouldn't force him into retreat.

[teke]

I don't see how Hopkins lowers Kesslers workrate.
If Hopkins is to win, it'll be by countering him and makinf Kessler miss, it'd be an ugly win if it happens.

Kessler's workrate would still be fairly high though imo. Hopkins wouldn't force him into retreat.You should watch todays fight.

Perfect example of how good movement can lower a fighters workrate.

Noone in the whole wide world expected Nard to slow ole punching machine Pavlik down. Emmanual Steward even said he was shocked how good Nards movement was.

[pecks]

I had a wonderful thought today, actually it was a premonition.

Roy Jones Jnr will convincingly beat Joe :deal:deal:deal

This will send Joes stock to the shithouseDidn't I already warn you about not keeping things in perspective?! :D

Joe should win, but the fight wont really do much for his legacy.
Joe has been going well the last few years, but he missed a big chance to become well respected by not fighting any superfights earlier on.

[Rise Above]

I honestly think if Hopkins fought like he did today he would beat Kessler. Kessler and Pavlik do have some similarities, as both rely on alot of straight punching and 1-2 combinations but Kessler would be better at 170 than Pavlik was, not sure that would play a big part in the outcome though.

[pecks]

You should watch todays fight.

Perfect example of how good movement can lower a fighters workrate.

Noone in the whole wide world expected Nard to slow ole punching machine Pavlik down. Emmanual Steward even said he was shocked how good Nards movement was.Hopefully someone will upload it to beatstube. :p

[lefty]

Nice one missing out the Split decision bit.

Joe has a high standing in my mind but its just not in cloud 9 likes yours :D

I had a wonderful thought today, actually it was a premonition.

Roy Jones Jnr will convincingly beat Joe :deal:deal:deal

This will send Joes stock to the shithouse

Here's something, Roy Jones is gonna get stopped by Calzaghe, put your money on it.

[teke]

I honestly think if Hopkins fought like he did today he would beat Kessler. Kessler and Pavlik do have some similarities, as both rely on alot of straight punching and 1-2 combinations but Kessler would be better at 170 than Pavlik was, not sure that would play a big part in the outcome though.Pretty similar aye. Straight punching would not be difficult for Hopkins to fight imo.

[JOSEY WALES]

Nice one missing out the Split decision bit.

Joe has a high standing in my mind but its just not in cloud 9 likes yours :D

I had a wonderful thought today, actually it was a premonition.

Roy Jones Jnr will convincingly beat Joe :deal:deal:deal

This will send Joes stock to the shithouse Split decision Teke ? winning a split in Vegas v a Legend like Hopkins is a decent enough result (im sure Pavlik would be happy to take one at this moment in time ) lol Joe Calzaghe Proved he is teh best S/Middleweight out there by beating Lacy & Kessler ) and he fought this Hopkins fella at L/Heavy first time fighting @ Said weight to capture the RING MAG L/Heavy title , sotes i do rate him above anyone in the division presently .
now we move onto RJJ ,If RJJ beats Calzaghe there will be no shame in it as far as Calzaghe's concerned as the whole boxing world will realise Roy's jmp up to Heavy gave his career a blip when he came back down . Roy Jones is a fantastic fighter probably the best in teh last 20 years so how would that make Joe Calzaghe any less impresive ? and send his stock to teh shit house ?

[teke]

Here's something, Roy Jones is gonna get stopped by Calzaghe, put your money on it.No no no brother.

My power of positive thinking will get Roy the win, hopefully...maybe...please let it be so :yep

[pecks]

I honestly think if Hopkins fought like he did today he would beat Kessler. Kessler and Pavlik do have some similarities, as both rely on alot of straight punching and 1-2 combinations but Kessler would be better at 170 than Pavlik was, not sure that would play a big part in the outcome though.If Kessler fails to deal with Hopkins from the beginning, it's likely he'd lose because he isn't real good at adapting from what we've seen.
Kessler does rely on his jab a lot, and imo, but it's more lethal than Pavlik's and Kessler's punches are more quicker and precise.
He also showed during the calzaghe fight that he isn't too bad on the inside.

Would be an interesting fight, probably not one thats pleasing on the eyes though, as it could very well be boring or ugly to see.

[kel]

I'm happy for Hopkins winning but not happy for myself, i went to the TAB yesterday to put money down on a Hopkins win but it wasn't on the computer for some strange reason. I left it there instead of asking the worker behind the counter whats going on. I could be rich today :patsch
Pavlik is a good fighter but seriously overrated around here, he beat Miranda and Taylor, not the smartest boxers around. He'd never seen anyone like Hopkins, i knew hopkins was never gonna get hit by many punches because of his defence and smarts and land sneaky shots. He won more comprehensively than i expected though, his workrate was great and we actually saw him be the aggressor at times during the fight. Hopkins pre-fight talk was respectful and giving credit while Pavlik was talking about being the first person to stop Hopkins. Hopkins wanted Pavlik to underestimate him and Pavlik fell for it, i knew the fight was sealed before the bell went.

What u need my friend is a betfair account, i got 5/1 on Bhop and topped up half way through the fight taking 1.50 in the running after 4rds. Can u believe he was still 1.20 with 2rds to go

[JOSEY WALES]

Mental note Josey .Learn THE fuck how to spell THE .

[teke]

Split decision Teke ? winning a split in Vegas v a Legend like Hopkins is a decent enough result (im sure Pavlik would be happy to take one at this moment in time ) lol Joe Calzaghe Proved he is teh best S/Middleweight out there by beating Lacy & Kessler ) and he fought this Hopkins fella at L/Heavy first time fighting @ Said weight to capture the RING MAG L/Heavy title , sotes i do rate him above anyone in the division presently .
now we move onto RJJ ,If RJJ beats Calzaghe there will be no shame in it as far as Calzaghe's concerned as the whole boxing world will realise Roy's jmp up to Heavy gave his career a blip when he came back down . Roy Jones is a fantastic fighter probably the best in teh last 20 years so how would that make Joe Calzaghe any less impresive ? and send his stock to teh shit house ?no it wouldnt make it less impressive, just some shit stirring.

More directed at the far-out Joe huggers

[pecks]

.
now we move onto RJJ ,If RJJ beats Calzaghe there will be no shame in it as far as Calzaghe's concerned as the whole boxing world will realise Roy's jmp up to Heavy gave his career a blip when he came back down . Roy Jones is a fantastic fighter probably the best in teh last 20 years so how would that make Joe Calzaghe any less impresive ? and send his stock to teh shit house ?It'd be a bad loss for Calzaghe if it were to happen, simply because Jones is a shadow of the fighter he was before.

[JOSEY WALES]

Earth to Teke , These days Roy Jones Junior ain't a Bernard Hopkins and Joe Calzaghe ain't a Kelly Pavlik ....

[JOSEY WALES]

It'd be a bad loss for Calzaghe if it were to happen, simply because Jones is a shadow of the fighter he was before.

So is Joe ,

[teke]

Earth to Teke , These days Roy Jones Junior ain't a Bernard Hopkins and Joe Calzaghe ain't a Kelly Pavlik ....The fight aint too far away brother, getting nervous :hey

[Rise Above]

Pretty similar aye. Straight punching would not be difficult for Hopkins to fight imo.

Hopkins has good defence, the way he was slipping punches and countering with good combinations was great today.

[pecks]

So is Joe ,I wouldn't say Joe is a shadow of the fighter he was, he is on the decline a bit, but he hasn't faded nowhere near as much as Jones has.

Though if you ask deram, he'll tell you that the Calzaghe that fought Kessler is 160% of any Calzaghe we've ever seen.



Damn, I really miss this guy.

[teke]

I wouldn't say Joe is a shadow of the fighter he was, he is on the decline a bit, but he hasn't faded nowhere near as much as Jones has.

Though if you ask deram, he'll tell you that the Calzaghe that fought Kessler is 160% of any Calzaghe we've ever seen.



Damn, I really miss this guy.:lol::lol::lol:

[JOSEY WALES]

lol No mate i have had complete confidence in this kid Calzaghe since i saw him fight when he was 14 years old down the local club , Jones will get beaten , That is all ...

[teke]

lol No mate i have had complete confidence in this kid Calzaghe since i saw him fight when he was 14 years old down the local club , Jones will get beaten , That is all ...Its a great matchup.

Mosley surprised me with his KO win over Mayorga, Hopkins surprised me today and Roys 5 punch KO over Joe in the 8th round will cement a good year for me :yep

[kel]

lol No mate i have had complete confidence in this kid Calzaghe since i saw him fight when he was 14 years old down the local club , Jones will get beaten , That is all ...

So it's safe to say u could be biased? following his career since he was 14 seems like nuthugger heaven :yep Anyway he's doing a good job so far :lol:

[Rise Above]

lol No mate i have had complete confidence in this kid Calzaghe since i saw him fight when he was 14 years old down the local club , Jones will get beaten , That is all ...

I have to agree, I do think Calzaghe will win but if they were both in their primes Roy would take the W.

[T.C.W]

hopkins won the calzaghe fight in my eyes, but it was super close, I had no problem with the result going to Joe because I have watch alot of boxing in the last 20 years and fights like that can go either way

[JOSEY WALES]

So it's safe to say u could be biased? following his career since he was 14 seems like nuthugger heaven :yep Anyway he's doing a good job so far :lol: Joe Calzaghe nuthugger I AM 100% i was in my early 20's when i first saw him fight and turned to my mate and said this kid looks ok , a bit skinny but he got skillz , my mate said fuck off that skinny cunt is usless lol

[JOSEY WALES]

hopkins won the calzaghe fight in my eyes, but it was super close, I had no problem with the result going to Joe because I have watch alot of boxing in the last 20 years and fights like that can go either way We are all entitled to our opinions mate thats why its the best sport in the world . :good

[kel]

hopkins won the calzaghe fight in my eyes, but it was super close, I had no problem with the result going to Joe because I have watch alot of boxing in the last 20 years and fights like that can go either way

You are wrong my friend, Calzaghe won that........even allowing for the 10-8 knock down in the first.

[pecks]

I had Calzaghe up by about 4 or 5 points I think.
Terrible scoring imo.

[lefty]

What u need my friend is a betfair account, i got 5/1 on Bhop and topped up half way through the fight taking 1.50 in the running after 4rds. Can u believe he was still 1.20 with 2rds to go

5/1, fuck me. I could've taken the next week off work unpaid :patsch

[JOSEY WALES]

I dont know why people continue to bag Calzaghe. I was one who thought he'd be exposed at some stage, but he's taken on the best in and around his weight and beat them all. What more can he do? Tiger thats the thing with Calzaghe mate if old man Enzo had travelled to America with his new Welsh wife instead of the UK , Joe Calzaghe would have been the bastard son of Rocky Marciano lol some people just can never give props no matter how well a lads career goes ..:-(

[IrnBruMan]

Great fight by Hopkins, he outworked Pavlik and never let him get into a rhythm.

Hopkins was super busy and very aggressive, Pavlik looked like a kid in there, very one-dimensional.

He was lucky if he landed 10 punches on Hopkins today.

I was thinking of all the seppo Hopkins huggers who were saying Hopkins was old/past it/shot when Calzaghe beat him, then a few months later he puts on this clinic :yep

He never looked like slowing down for the whole 12 rounds, yet the abovementioned nuthuggers were saying Hopkins doesn't have the stamina to go 12 anymore, etc. :nut

[teke]

You are wrong my friend, Calzaghe won that........even allowing for the 10-8 knock down in the first.He is right my friend, i too had Bhop winning but wont argue the result which i kinda am right now :huh:p

Pecks how the fuck could you have him up by 5 rounds. I had him losing by 4 pts after the 1st 3 rounds

[teke]

I was thinking of all the seppo Hopkins huggers who were saying Hopkins was old/past it/shot when Calzaghe beat him, then a few months later he puts on this clinic :yep

He never looked like slowing down for the whole 12 rounds, yet the abovementioned nuthuggers were saying Hopkins doesn't have the stamina to go 12 anymore, etc. :nutHopkins is just entering his prime :D

[pecks]

He is right my friend, i too had Bhop winning but wont argue the result which i kinda am right now :huh:p

Pecks how the fuck could you have him up by 5 rounds. I had him losing by 4 pts after the 1st 3 rounds5 points, not rounds.

[JOSEY WALES]

Great fight by Hopkins, he outworked Pavlik and never let him get into a rhythm.

Hopkins was super busy and very aggressive, Pavlik looked like a kid in there, very one-dimensional.

He was lucky if he landed 10 punches on Hopkins today.

I was thinking of all the seppo Hopkins huggers who were saying Hopkins was old/past it/shot when Calzaghe beat him, then a few months later he puts on this clinic :yep

He never looked like slowing down for the whole 12 rounds, yet the abovementioned nuthuggers were saying Hopkins doesn't have the stamina to go 12 anymore, etc. :nut Mutt that Hopkins fella surprised me winning that , i knew he had the stamina and the skillz to see the fight through but had Pavlik by UD :patsch

[teke]

5 points, not rounds.arent they the same? :blood

[Wrangler]

Hopkins demonstrated his true 7class and the sort of thing that makes a 7champion. After giving Pavlik a hiding, he had enough grace to make sure the young fella wasn't distraught. He is o9bviously a champion bloke as much as a boxer.

[this bloke]

i thought hopkins would win,but not like that
its gotta be one of the most incredible things ive seen in a boxing ring,or anywhere

its right up there, or maybe just below the mighty eagles in the gf

[pecks]

arent they the same? :blood :oops: I guess so.

Yeah, I did have Calzaghe winning that easily then.
Cant remember exactly, but apart from the first few rounds, I had Calzaghe winning just about every round since, maybe Hopkins won one of the later ones.

[IrnBruMan]

Mutt that Hopkins fella surprised me winning that , i knew he had the stamina and the skillz to see the fight through but had Pavlik by UD :patsch

I couldn't pick a winner before the fight, the only thing I was sure of was that B-Hops was not going to be KOd, but I thought it'd go the way of Calzaghe vs Hopkins with Hopkins spoiling and tying Pavlik up every chance he got, and Pavlik winning by UD, or even SD.

But Hopkins came out with a game plan and executed it to a T.

I was thinking how Calzaghe vs Pavlik would look, if B-Hops was outworking and outhustling Pavlik, what would Calzaghe do to him? :scaredas:

[pecks]

I was thinking how Calzaghe vs Pavlik would look, if B-Hops was outworking and outhustling Pavlik, what would Calzaghe do to him? :scaredas:I've always said that Calzaghe would school Pavlik.
His angles and trickery would give Pavlik nightmares. It would be a fairly easy night at the office for Calzaghe imo.

Shame Hopkins got to him first, it would have risen Calzaghe's stocks more to the US audience.

[THN]

B-hop is the man

[JOSEY WALES]

I've always said that Calzaghe would school Pavlik.
His angles and trickery would give Pavlik nightmares. It would be a fairly easy night at the office for Calzaghe imo.

Shame Hopkins got to him first, it would have risen Calzaghe's stocks more to the US audience. :lol: I bet Joe's fucking spewing this morning $15 million just went down the swanny :patsch Now i see a distinct possibility he will fight Dawson as way of conpen$ation . that im afraid could be his arse ..

[pecks]

:lol: I bet Joe's fucking spewing this morning $15 million just went down the swanny :patsch Now i see a distinct possibility he will fight Dawson as way of conpen$ation . that im afraid could be his arse ..Dawson is beatatble though as he is still learning his trade I think.
As skillful as he is, he still has question marks hanging over him, and Calzaghe is always good at finding answers.

[JOSEY WALES]

Dawson is beatatble though as he is still learning his trade I think.
As skillful as he is, he still has question marks hanging over him, and Calzaghe is always good at finding answers. Yea ,Your Probably right there, i saw Dawson v TArver the other day but Tarver grew old before my eyes that fight ..

[teke]

:lol: I bet Joe's fucking spewing this morning $15 million just went down the swanny :patsch Now i see a distinct possibility he will fight Dawson as way of conpen$ation . that im afraid could be his arse ..He'd get a fair few dollars in a Hopkins rematch.

[pecks]

Yea ,Your Probably right there, i saw Dawson v TArver the other day but Tarver grew old before my eyes that fight ..Whats the site that has many fights and gets updated often?
It's kind of like the youtube for boxing. Do you know the url?

[pecks]

He'd get a fair few dollars in a Hopkins rematch.Pointless fight mate. It's not as if Hopkins could do anything more differently this time around.

[teke]

Pointless fight mate. It's not as if Hopkins could do anything more differently this time around.Money for Joe im talking about.

I wouldnt mind seeing him put on his ass again :D

[kel]

Can people please go to boxrec and look at Pavliks resume again.

Apart from the Taylor fights what other notable opponent is listed?

[pecks]

Money for Joe im talking about.

I wouldnt mind seeing him put on his ass again :DI doubt there would be money for that fight also. There will be big money fights out there for Hopkins though, just not against Calzaghe because it has already been done and not so long ago as well.

[JOSEY WALES]

Whats the site that has many fights and gets updated often?
It's kind of like the youtube for boxing. Do you know the url?

Not sure mate but try [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) :good

[THN]

He'd get a fair few dollars in a Hopkins rematch.
You think like Mouthdine money- money, where is the pride?

[JOSEY WALES]

He'd get a fair few dollars in a Hopkins rematch. ROLMFAO @Teke Desperate to see Calzaghe beaten , you sure you ain't a Yank ? Joe Calzaghe is in the record books as going to America and beating Bernard Hopkins to capture te Ring mag title " you know THAT ring mag title the one 99% of boxing fans recognise as being THE ONLY TITLE to consider Get over it Teke he lost bro

Joe V B/Hop here in Cardiff two miles from my manor ? oh go on then :good

[teke]

You think like Mouthdine money- money, where is the pride?:fuckoff

[ashley]

BHOP was better than one would have thought but Pavlik looked like he never left second gear. Looked like a spar session.......he only threw 15 puncheds all fight that could have hurt Bhop. :huh

[teke]

ROLMFAO @Teke Desperate to see Calzaghe beaten , you sure you ain't a Yank ? Joe Calzaghe is in the record books as going to America and beating Bernard Hopkins to capture te Ring mag title " you know THAT ring mag title the one 99% of boxing fans recognise as being THE ONLY TITLE to consider Get over it Teke he lost bro

Joe V B/Hop here in Cardiff two miles from my manor ? oh go on then :goodHave i missed something.

I just threw out an idea for Joe to make money now that Pavlik just got dusted. If i was desperate for Joe to get beaten then i sure as shit wouldnt be pinning my hopes on Bhop doing it in Wales

[mundinechamp]

What a win, what a fighter! Here comes the movie, autobiography and motivational speech circuit.

If Roy Jones can beat Calzaghe then a career finale against RJJ would be the perfect way to farewell the sport.

[ashley]

What a win, what a fighter! Here comes the movie, autobiography and motivational speech circuit.

If Roy Jones can beat Calzaghe then a career finale against RJJ would be the perfect way to farewell the sport.

I think Bhop may have 2 years left in him now or 4 or 5 more fights.

[jack 27]

I think Bhop may have 2 years left in him now or 4 or 5 more fights.i agree with you ashley.

how can a 43 year old keep moving like he did for 12 rounds....

unbelievable..

[Francis75]

There is no way Bernard will retire. Even if he had lost today he would have still fought on imo.

[THN]

:fuckoff
I love you to :smooch

[ipswich express]

Great effort by Hopkins. Calzaghe's stock continues to go up as well.

[The Mighty Bolo]

Sorry I'm late.:party Just woke up from the fight party.:tired

[Kegsy]

Can people please go to boxrec and look at Pavliks resume again.

Apart from the Taylor fights what other notable opponent is listed?
Edison Miranda in a world title eliminator.
Knockouts of tough Jose Luis Zertuche, Fulgencio Zuniga & Bronco McKart.

[Marcus]

arghhh dam, my man Pavlik got school, back down to middle for him and defend the wbc belt against rubio or whatever his name was that fought on the undercard.

huge props to b-hop, beat him to the punch all night, he didnt wait to counter, nard just beat him up all night.

hard to watch for me, feed was great for undercard then shitfull for main event.

dont know who b-hop will target next, but i cant see him fighting roy or joe again.

[stiflers mum]

:happyMan was that good to watch.

I knew Pavlik had it coming one day but man is Nard one badass boxer.

I suggest everyone watch this fight even if you dont like either, its great to see how Hopkins executes his game plan.

WOW
disappointes.thought he was gonna KO in the 12 th. ala Trinidad but he let him see out the fight:-(
j/k awesome display.im v/cash rich again.

[ipswich express]

It's probably a better effort than his Tito mastering as Trinidad is a naturally smaller man than Hopkins. He's cemented his legacy as an ATG.