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freddy-wak
10-21-2008, 12:12 PM
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freddy-wak
10-21-2008, 12:21 PM
What happened? :lol:
boxing has
HBO
SHOWTIME
VS NETWORK
ESPN
TELEFUTURA
TV AZTEKA
TELEMUNDO
GALAVISION
and by the looks of it, those shows aint going no where for a while :good
so mma has ppv only now...and an occasional spikeTV show twice a year
bladerunner
10-21-2008, 12:27 PM
theres a reason why boxing has been around for all this time.
MMA was never a threat to boxing.
elite xc is 2nd rate lol (my friend was fighting for it)
..that's like saying no more Boxing After Dark on HBO..
It means nothing.
freddy-wak
10-21-2008, 12:39 PM
elite xc is 2nd rate lol (my friend was fighting for it)
..that's like saying no more Boxing After Dark on HBO..
It means nothing.
bullshit...BAD has had a lot of great shows
including 3 triple headers that would shit on anything the ufc has ever produced :good
bullshit...BAD has had a lot of great shows
including 3 triple headers that would shit on anything the ufc has ever produced :good
BAD has had good shows but UFC has put on as good as BAD if not better.
All I am saying is comparing Elite XC to HBO to dumb, Elite XC is second rate in mma.
LeadLeftHook
10-21-2008, 01:15 PM
So what, UFC is here to stay and is getting bigger.
tays001
10-21-2008, 01:16 PM
dam oh well
truewarrior
10-21-2008, 01:17 PM
All I have to say is that the Bernard Vs Pavlik fight alone last saturday had more action than the UFC 89 that was on the same night.
Marnoff
10-21-2008, 01:18 PM
No surprise. After Kimbo's jaw got exposed, I expected EliteXC to fall on rocky times. He was their name.
hitman_hatton1
10-21-2008, 01:21 PM
kimbo to try his hand at boxing perhaps.
UFC are closing there doors to him.
kimbo vs butterbean anyone. :lol:
Flyin Ryan
10-21-2008, 01:24 PM
All I have to say is that the Bernard Vs Pavlik fight alone last saturday had more action than the UFC 89 that was on the same night.
Which one had more PPV buys? Because that's all that matters to the people that control the sport of boxing.
Boxing long ago ceased to be a sport about putting out the best fight. Case in point, all the fans that b*tch on here about fighters ducking opponents which makes up 3 out of every 4 threads on this forum (honestly, get a room). Boxing long ago went into "it's just a way to make a lot of money" mode, so boxing putting up a better fight and crowing about that is pretty ridiculous considering boxing's business model is the antithesis of that and is instead geared toward maximizing the rate of return by charging $50 for a PPV for what is half the time a crap fight.
As far as all the networks that show boxing, when was the last time there was a big fight in boxing not on PPV? You want me to get hyped about the boxing on ESPN or Versus, fine, put a decent fight or a title defense on regular TV. UFC does that occasionally, why doesn't boxing?
EL-MATADOR
10-21-2008, 01:31 PM
what happened to kimbo slice? :lol:
Tuffnutz
10-21-2008, 01:35 PM
If UFC 89 was on PPV it woudl haver destoryed Pavlik vs Hopkins figures.
Stezzie
10-21-2008, 01:36 PM
It never was...Of coarse that foolish delusion will be brought up again...
sitiyzal
10-21-2008, 01:42 PM
what happened to kimbo slice? :lol:
He walked into a girly "jab" thrown by a 205 pounder who was leaning back standing on one leg. Ray Mercer must be kicking himself.
Sp_Immortal
10-21-2008, 01:59 PM
Yeah I hate to break it to you guys but UFC pay per views last year outsold all of the boxing pay per views combined, in a year that featured superbouts like De La Hoya/Mayweather.
It's likely that UFC's numbers will far outstrip boxing this year, with Couture/Lesnar maybe getting as many as a million buys all by itself.
I love boxing, but this thread feels like a bunch of people whistling past the graveyard.
venomus_p4p
10-21-2008, 02:01 PM
kimbo to try his hand at boxing perhaps.
UFC are closing there doors to him.
kimbo vs butterbean anyone. :lol:
Butter is doing wrestling these days :deal
PolishPummler
10-21-2008, 02:02 PM
I knew this would happen after watching there first CBS broadcast.
WWF feel with low quality overhyped fighters.
realsoulja
10-21-2008, 02:27 PM
In UFC you will never get
castilo vs corrales
Ward vs Gatti
Ali vs Frazier...............
freddy-wak
10-21-2008, 02:31 PM
dont get me wrong, i'm a fan of mma and will continue to be one.
i for one never thought mma would affect boxing, but i posted this for the people that thought it would.....
freddy-wak
10-21-2008, 02:33 PM
BAD has had good shows but UFC has put on as good as BAD if not better.
All I am saying is comparing Elite XC to HBO to dumb, Elite XC is second rate in mma.
not really considering that millions of people know kimbo and gina, but can't pick out perro angulo or gamboa from a load of beaners :deal
you might not be able to compare the channels, but the fighters alone as far as popularity goes, goes to kimbo and gina....
sitiyzal
10-21-2008, 02:34 PM
Why can't people seem to see beyond ppv figures in the u.s. when sports are viewed all over the world??
1lehudson
10-21-2008, 02:42 PM
What happened? :lol:What happened?? too many of them bums are being knocked out by jabs and other shots that SHOULDNT do the kinds of damage that they are doing....Over exposure, every day you can flip though the channels and find some clubkid or skinny kid who couldnt make his highschool wrestling team going at it.
marauder1999
10-21-2008, 02:55 PM
If UFC 89 was on PPV it woudl haver destoryed Pavlik vs Hopkins figures.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
SouthpawSlayer
10-21-2008, 03:06 PM
i fell asleep during ufc 89 and was bored shitless, the hopkins pavlik fight had me wide awake, the ufc is putting on terrible shows these days and is also in decline with the loss and exposure of major stars ie, liddell
Rattler
10-21-2008, 03:33 PM
In UFC you will never get
castilo vs corrales
Ward vs Gatti
Ali vs Frazier...............
Of course not.... of course, 99% of the time, you don't get that in boxing either.
jimmie
10-21-2008, 03:39 PM
boxing has
HBO
SHOWTIME
VS NETWORK
ESPN
TELEFUTURA
TV AZTEKA
TELEMUNDO
GALAVISION
and by the looks of it, those shows aint going no where for a while :good
so mma has ppv only now...and an occasional spikeTV show twice a year
Twice a year ? UFC has already had 6 live shows on Spike with 2 more coming so where you get 2 at I dont know.
freddy-wak
10-21-2008, 03:55 PM
Twice a year ? UFC has already had 6 live shows on Spike with 2 more coming so where you get 2 at I dont know.
still can't compare to all the free boxing we get to watch....
we get about 50 shows alone from telefutura...
about 20+ from showtime
about 10 from tv azteka
about 30+ from hbo
another 10 from the vs network
about 50 from espn (counting both wednesday and friday night fights)
and ppv has about 12-18 a year
sugarngold
10-21-2008, 07:13 PM
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The Elite XC was a second hand MMA org at best.
The UFC is not going anywhere. It's one of the smartest run businesses and highest money making franchises in any sport today. Period. End of sentence. And :deal
That said - this rivalry between MMA/UFc and boxing is purely fictitious and is wholly a fabrication of boxing fans that feel threatened by the emergence of a new fighting sport.
I am a boxing fan as well as a fan of mixed martial arts. It is OK to enjoy both.
Beebs
10-21-2008, 09:10 PM
EliteXC was a poorly managed company that probably commited felonies in their last show, MMA as a whole, and the UFC in particuarly, are still "taking over"
Not actually taking over, because both sports will always exist, its just that MMA is becoming mainstream, and hitting the right demographics.
jimmie
10-21-2008, 09:29 PM
still can't compare to all the free boxing we get to watch....
we get about 50 shows alone from telefutura...
about 20+ from showtime
about 10 from tv azteka
about 30+ from hbo
another 10 from the vs network
about 50 from espn (counting both wednesday and friday night fights)
and ppv has about 12-18 a year
You really cant compare one company with 200 fighters to boxing who has thousands on top of thousands. Sure MMA isnt free very much but im ok with it I have no problem paying for a PPV that has 5 fights that im very much looking forward to instead of paying 10 dollars more usually to see one fight that winds up sucking most of the time.
Dostoevsky
10-21-2008, 09:32 PM
boxing has
HBO
SHOWTIME
VS NETWORK
ESPN
TELEFUTURA
TV AZTEKA
TELEMUNDO
GALAVISION
and by the looks of it, those shows aint going no where for a while :good
so mma has ppv only now...and an occasional spikeTV show twice a year
In the US the UFC made more money than boxing ALL ON ITS OWN in 2006.
You act like MMA died with the folding of EliteXC/Pro Elite.
SouthpawSlayer
10-22-2008, 04:14 AM
[quote=Beebs]EliteXC was a poorly managed company that probably commited felonies in their last show, MMA as a whole, and the UFC in particuarly, are still "taking over"
taking over is a strong statement, i believe the ufc is great but is not big enough to take over a whole sport, saying that if there were some more folk like dana white in boxing then maybe things would be better, whatever white does he should keep on doing it
it would be hilarious if dana signed kimbo but my hopes are high
PUMPERG
10-22-2008, 03:27 PM
All I Know Is Boxing Is Still Counting On All These Old Fighters That Were Contenders 10 Yrs Ago. One Of There Up Comers Got Whip Up To A 43 Yr Old This Weekend. Mma Is Were It Is At, Boxing Can't Compete Wit Mma!!jmo
PUMPERG
10-22-2008, 03:29 PM
That Was Ufc Free Event And Still Clowned The Paper View Event, Under Cards Were Horrible For The Boxing.
Club Fighter
10-22-2008, 11:03 PM
boxing has
HBO
SHOWTIME
VS NETWORK
ESPN
TELEFUTURA
TV AZTEKA
TELEMUNDO
GALAVISION
and by the looks of it, those shows aint going no where for a while :good
so mma has ppv only now...and an occasional spikeTV show twice a year
Negatory. WEC on Versus is always welcome in my home and the homes of many other MMA fans.
getup
10-26-2008, 08:01 PM
to me it seems if ya watch one ya'd watch the other one...,
ya think baseball fans were saying this kinda shit when football was comin into its own during the '50's?
come on guys there is room for both..,boxing has had a resugence lately with the best fighting the best..,
while UFC has had a slight drop with its a few of its big stars doppin off..,
no worries if 2 guys are fightin on the box im watchin what else the fuck im gonna watch?richard dawson aint on the fued no more so fuck it!
DAN LAW
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