Vitali Klitschko is a Coward

[Bazooka]

We all know the reality of this bum, he avoided a fight with Rahman for two years keeping the heavyweight divison on hold, after all the shit talking he did about Lewis when he was on hold pondering his retirment, what does Vitali do? especially when he is forced to take his mandotory, pathetic, since he fought Lennox Vitali showed great heart in fighting guys like Danny Williams:roll: Kirk Bubba Johnson :roll: and old ass Corrie I am washed up and a part time fighter Sanders:roll:

The very moment he was mandated to face Hasim Rahman all of the sudden he had injuries how pathetic, all the shit talking about Lewis retiring yet he does the same thing.

The only difference is he comes out of retirment to prove he was fucking lying all together from the start and who does he take in his first fight? McClein, he could have easily fought Rahman and cleared the smoke up, but elected to fight this fucking bum instead.
V Klitschko is a fucking coward straight up, and he is a crybaby who has nothing better to do other than to stalk a 43 year old Lennox Lewis.

[Chileno606]

Lock the fucking thread NOW Mods, he doesnt even know what the fuck he is talking about
:dealowned.

[Bazooka]

:deal :rofl atleast my shit makes sense and its the truth

[BewareofDawg]

Yeah you got it, Vitali was afraid of Hasim Rahman :roll:

Next topic.

[Bazooka]

Yeah you got it, Vitali was afraid of Hasim Rahman :roll:

Next topic.

That isnt the point the point is he should have taken that fight instead of the McClein fight honestly and I doubt you can even disagree with that.

[DonPrestige]

Oh Yeh coz Rahman, was a real contender and one of the most feared boxers out there. C'mon be serious man.

Also I dont get it from your other post I would assume you hated both Lewis and Vitali if it wasnt for the fact I know you know nothing about boxing.

This forums going to the dogs. All we need now is someone like Carlito to jump in and it would be done.

[Thread Stealer]

Hasim Rahman may suck compared to the praise he often got, but he's still a more accomplished fighter than Shitali Quitschko.

[Bazooka]

Hasim Rahman may suck compared to the praise he often got, but he's still a more accomplished fighter than Shitali Quitschko.

he is a former two time HW champion that is far more than what McClein has been able to do.
Rahman also holds a 5th round knock out over Lewis, something that will stand out if Vitali did fight and beat him. He also beat James Toney on most logical score cards. He has also knocked out Kali Meehan who really did beat Lamon Brewster. He has also knocked out Corrie sanders in an all out war and he knocked out a younger sanders than either klitschko faced, and he knocked him out faster than V Klitshcko did.
This fight in so many ways makes sense, I just wish Vitali had the heart to step up and realize this fight could do him more than the fight he has chosen to take.

[SevenSamurai]

Yeah, Hasim Rahman has proved in his career since his fallen through fights with Vitali what a major threat he would have been to Vitali if they had fought. The fact that Vitali had an injury, which forced him to retire, has nothing to do with it either.

I swear there are more irrational haters on this forum then ever before.:rofl

[jason]

Hasim who o yea lucky punch guy that beat lennox then got his azz kicked

[Bazooka]

Yeah, Hasim Rahman has proved in his career since his fallen through fights with Vitali what a major threat he would have been to Vitali if they had fought. The fact that Vitali had an injury, which forced him to retire, has nothing to do with it either.

I swear there are more irrational haters on this forum then ever before.:rofl

The injurie must not have been that bad considering he is comming back, lets not also forget the fact the the Dr appointed by the WBC said that the injury was not as bad as they made it out to be and he declaired Vitali fit to fight.
However Vitali went to his own Dr against the wishes of the WBC and had a second opinion which could have easily been bought. but i mean come on if the injury was that serious that he needed to retire then why is he comming back?

[Bazooka]

Hasim who o yea lucky punch guy that beat lennox then got his azz kicked

You talking about the same Lewis that WLAD fought:huh

[SevenSamurai]

The injurie must not have been that bad considering he is comming back, lets not also forget the fact the the Dr appointed by the WBC said that the injury was not as bad as they made it out to be and he declaired Vitali fit to fight.
However Vitali went to his own Dr against the wishes of the WBC and had a second opinion which could have easily been bought. but i mean come on if the injury was that serious that he needed to retire then why is he comming back?

It has been well document that for years before his retirement he was not 100% fit, due to the legacy of kick boxing injuries. He was able to came back, because he gaves his body time to rest. I think the injury was genuine, and therefore I doubt his comeback will be successful as I know for a fact that those injuries have not gone away and that he will get injured again- maybe even in training and he might not even fight again. I think Vitali is really coming back for a last pay day, knowing that he will get injured again...

[kaygb]

he is a former two time HW champion that is far more than what McClein has been able to do.
Rahman also holds a 5th round knock out over Lewis, something that will stand out if Vitali did fight and beat him. He also beat James Toney on most logical score cards. He has also knocked out Kali Meehan who really did beat Lamon Brewster. He has also knocked out Corrie sanders in an all out war and he knocked out a younger sanders than either klitschko faced, and he knocked him out faster than V Klitshcko did.
This fight in so many ways makes sense, I just wish Vitali had the heart to step up and realize this fight could do him more than the fight he has chosen to take.

Damn good post. When Vitali held the heavyweight division for that length of time I was realy pissed and then he comes back to face McClane who threw 2 punches when he faced Wlad and ran like a scared jackrabbit all during the fight. No Rahman, hell no, McClane. If Vitali was any kind of a guy who had high regard for the sport he would never had held the heavyweight division up like that. Almost two years. That's really pathetic and only Klit nuthuggers would ever dsagree with that.

[Bazooka]

It has been well document that for years before his retirement he was not 100% fit, due to the legacy of kick boxing injuries. He was able to came back, because he gaves his body time to rest. I think the injury was genuine, and therefore I doubt his comeback will be successful as I know for a fact that those injuries have not gone away and that he will get injured again- maybe even in training and he might not even fight again. I think Vitali is really coming back for a last pay day, knowing that he will get injured again...

Then knowing this why would or how could any of you fuckers support that? comming back just to take advantage of his fans thats not what you call a champion that is what you call a fucking Joke, its almost like Tyson and his come backs against soft opposition its not respected at all.
Truely if this is the case Vitali is a punk bitch who plays his fans as such.

[Bazooka]

Damn good post. When Vitali held the heavyweight division for that length of time I was realy pissed and then he comes back to face McClane who threw 2 punches when he faced Wlad and ran like a scared jackrabbit all during the fight. No Rahman, hell no, McClane. If Vitali was any kind of a guy who had high regard for the sport he would never had held the heavyweight division up like that. Almost two years. That's really pathetic and only Klit nuthuggers would ever dsagree with that.

Exactly, and those are the only ones talking shit about it, its funny how they all talk shit about Lennox hanging them up, yet Vitali does it and we are supposed to respect that fuck that shit, what goes around comes around.
Atleast Lewis had the balls to fight Rahman after being knocked out by him, VItali just avoided the man and like I said he had an opportunity to fight Rahman instead of McClein but decided not to, I wonder why.:think

[SevenSamurai]

Then knowing this why would or how could any of you fuckers support that? comming back just to take advantage of his fans thats not what you call a champion that is what you call a fucking Joke, its almost like Tyson and his come backs against soft opposition its not respected at all.
Truely if this is the case Vitali is a punk bitch who plays his fans as such.

I dont support Vitali, and i dont think anyone really can. I think even his die hard fans deep down know the truth about his comeback like I explained. He is just here really to see how far he can go financially, before the injury stops him again. He is getting in the ring and fighting guys who want to knock him out and he should be respected for that though.

[Bazooka]

I dont support Vitali, and i dont think anyone really can. I think even his die hard fans deep down know the truth about his comeback like I explained. He is just here really to see how far he can go financially, before the injury stops him again. He is getting in the ring and fighting guys who want to knock him out and he should be respected for that though.

Every fighter gets respect, but that doesnt mean I wont tell the truth about them, THe Klitschko Nuthuggers here are out of control worse than the Floyd boys here, I have no respect for idiots like that, these guys make it seem like VK and WK are the best thing since sliced bread, as if they are far better than Louis, and Ali its a fucking joke what these guys come up with.
its amazing that after how many years they are still crying over the loss to Lennox Lewis, you would think they would have gotten over that shit now and accepted the reality of this sport and that Lewis won with in the rules, I am 100% positive that had Lewis got stopped on cuts they would be arguing the same shit, its truely pathetic. :verysad

[RUSKULL]

Troll thread.

[Bazooka]

Troll thread.

I beleive you mis spelled your statement, True thread:good

[magnificentdave]

do you think rahman wants to fight vitali without a title?

[Bazooka]

I started a thread this week on the smae subject, I listed all the fight offers that VK had on the table that he rejected.

No one person was able to dispute it. They just keep calling me names and cursed at me for bringing it up.

Kind of like what the Clits are doing to you right now.:-(

its expected of these guys, but make no mistake I am always up to put these fuckers in their place, especially when they go out of their way to talk shit about Lewis, or to say so and so is avoiding Wlad blah blah blah, i get sick of reading their ignorance time and time again.

[RUSKULL]

I started a thread this week on the smae subject, I listed all the fight offers that VK had on the table that he rejected.

No one person was able to dispute it. They just keep calling me names and cursed at me for bringing it up.

Kind of like what the Clits are doing to you right now.:-(

Well you're in some great company with Bazooka, KayGB and rest of the usual Klitschko hater crowd. Like a circle jerk of sorts......................where each of you commend each other for calling a professional fighter a pussy from the comfort of your computer chairs................:lol: :yep

[Bazooka]

do you think rahman wants to fight vitali without a title?

why wouldnt he its still a big fight, it would still bring in money and that is what Rahman is all about anyways

[RUSKULL]

its expected of these guys, but make no mistake I am always up to put these fuckers in their place, especially when they go out of their way to talk shit about Lewis, or to say so and so is avoiding Wlad blah blah blah, i get sick of reading their ignorance time and time again.

When was the last time you put anyone in their place? Puhlease..................:rofl

[Bazooka]

When was the last time you put anyone in their place? Puhlease..................:rofl

When is the last time you made any logical sense in a post?

[RUSKULL]

2 posts ago moron.

[Zakman]

We all know the reality of this bum, he avoided a fight with Rahman for two years keeping the heavyweight divison on hold,

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You can't be serious. Vitali would have DESTROYED the glass-jawed Rahman. How many times does Rahman have to get knocked cold before some of you people wise up to the fact that he can't take a punch!:patsch

[Bazooka]

2 posts ago moron.

if that is what you call logic its no wonder you love VK

[Bazooka]

cus injuries get fixed youi fuckin moron. its called time to heal or surgeries. look at holyfield. he def looks better than the human punching back he was 4 years ago.

I am not saying that they dont heal, However what I am saying is that he should have faced Rahman isntead of this meatball who doesnt even have the balls to pull the fucking trigger, that is what I am saying.

[Bazooka]

Hm, it is just me or became the klitscko haters worse than the Klitschko nuthuggers?

How does that make me a hater? I am simply pointing out there was a better fight for Vitali to take than this one, and its true, a fight with Rahman would have done more for Vitalis career than McClein you cant deny that.
and I dont hate the Klits I hate the nuthuggers, so yes I am a hater but not of the Klitschkos I am a hater of their nuthuggers ie Redskull etc..

[Bazooka]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You can't be serious. Vitali would have DESTROYED the glass-jawed Rahman. How many times does Rahman have to get knocked cold before some of you people wise up to the fact that he can't take a punch!:patsch

not saying Vitali woulndt have just saying that its un finished business and like I said Rahman is a far better fight than McClein how could you even disagree with that?

[AJAX]

The injurie must not have been that bad considering he is comming back, lets not also forget the fact the the Dr appointed by the WBC said that the injury was not as bad as they made it out to be and he declaired Vitali fit to fight.
However Vitali went to his own Dr against the wishes of the WBC and had a second opinion which could have easily been bought. but i mean come on if the injury was that serious that he needed to retire then why is he comming back?

not that bad? he has had back and knee injuries and hasn't fought in yrs.He's had multiple surgeries.do you think it's possible he was really hurt because he didn't fight Rachman or are that dillusional and think he was afraid? Honestly if you think he was afraid of Rachman you are a retard!!!:verysad :-( :nut

[Bazooka]

not that bad? he has had back and knee injuries and hasn't fought in yrs.He's had multiple surgeries.do you think it's possible he was really hurt because he didn't fight Rachman or are that dillusional and think he was afraid? Honestly if you think he was afraid of Rachman you are a retard!!!:verysad :-( :nut

I didnt say he was affraid of Rahman I said that its funny how he was forced to fight him all of the sudden these injuries came up, they never showed when he fought Williams or Sanders or Johnson out of no where they came about.
I can tell you this had Lewis decided to come out of retirement Vitali wouldnt have retired.

[A-50]

Vitali Klitschko would destroy Glass Jaw Hasbeen Rahman.

[Bazooka]

Vitali Klitschko would destroy Glass Jaw Hasbeen Rahman.

Like I said that is up to Vitali to prove just becuase you say so doesnt mean it would have happend style wise I have always felt that this was a bad fight for Vitali, Hasim has better footwork and with the way Vitali keeps his left hand down low everytime he jabs he brings it back below his waste, I think Rahmans right hand would have made for a hard nights work for Vitali not saying he would win, but i can tell you this, had the fight took place when it was supposed to Vitali would have had serious trouble with Hasim.
Rahman was clearley ready for V Klitschko you could easily see that in the James Toney fight of which Rahman looked to be in teh best shape of his life, i have never seen him that good on the scales he was ready for Vitali and how funny it was that the inury popped up just before the fight.

[Zakman]

not saying Vitali woulndt have just saying that its un finished business and like I said Rahman is a far better fight than McClein how could you even disagree with that?

Actually, it's also a far easier fight. Unless he gets injured, McCline will go a few rounds. Vitali would blast Rahman out within 3 at the most.

[Bazooka]

Actually, it's also a far easier fight. Unless he gets injured, McCline will go a few rounds. Vitali would blast Rahman out within 3 at the most.

This is where I disagree, remember McClein is comming off an injury himself easy fight for V Klitschko and yeah McClein would last a bit longer becuase he will be too scared to do anything as was the case in the Wlad fight, Rahman will atleast try to make it a fight, meaning he will take more risk in there and more than likely get something done before he losses

[A-50]

The nuthugger keeps blowing off the fact that VK ducked Rahman saying that VK would have walked thru him.

But they can never come up with an explaination why in the 2 years he didn't fight him. Why did he step over Rahman to fight Danny Williams?

You cant say VK needed a warm up fight with Danny before Rahman if you believe he would have had such a cakewalk with him.

Any which way you cut it, VK ducked Rahman!

And it wasn't just Rahman.

VK had a whole gang of valid and moneymaking offers on the table and he rejected them all to fight Danny Williams.

Besides Rahman you had Valuev, Toney, Bryd, Golota, Brewster and Ruiz all of them money making fights and valid comp. But the only fights that Clit seemed interested in making were one with washed up Holyfeld who was just coming off a whupping from James Toney. Masakiev, who was viewed as a past-it journeyman fighter, at the time. And with Danny Williams a pussy who beat up on a washed and past it Mike Tyson, who would have gotten him pregnant in his prime.

VK was and still is a pussy. if he had any balls he would clean up his unfinished business with Rahman and go on from there.


Ruiz is not valid competition, he was a cheating fraud. Ruiz is/was a joke. Klitschko never avoided Rahman, he was not Klitschko mandatory until well after the Williams fight.

[Bazooka]

Ruiz is not valid competition, he was a cheating fraud. Ruiz is/was a joke. Klitschko never avoided Rahman, he was not Klitschko mandatory until well after the Williams fight.

Wrong he was the mandotory, he became the interm champion after the Williams fight

[AJAX]

Actually, it's also a far easier fight. Unless he gets injured, McCline will go a few rounds. Vitali would blast Rahman out within 3 at the most.

I think Mcline is a much better match, rachman came in at around 260 in his last fight, he's not even a remote threat anymore.

[Scar]

Stopped reading after "Avoided Rahman" because it proved that you're an idiot. He's afraid to fight Rahman but was running after the man who knocked Rahman senseless within 4 rounds?

[Bazooka]

Stopped reading after "Avoided Rahman" because it proved that you're an idiot. He's afraid to fight Rahman but was running after the man who knocked Rahman senseless within 4 rounds?

because that man he was running after was old

[AJAX]

because that man he was running after was old

your losing more credability with every statement:patsch an old Lewis is still a bigger threat then any form of Rachman:verysad

[Bazooka]

your losing more credability with every statement:patsch an old Lewis is still a bigger threat then any form of Rachman:verysad

True and an old Lewis still beat Vitali Klitschko beleive me Vitali is lucky the fight was stopped there, he was on his way to getting knocked out by Lewis.
and whats this credability shit you speak of anyways? what kind of credit do you have? what are your credentials in the sport, mine are minimum but i can bet they are much more than what you have.

[Scar]

because that man he was running after was old

And young Rahman is way more dangerous?

[Bazooka]

And young Rahman is way more dangerous?

Dangerous enough to knock out Lennox Lewis, and Corrie Sanders I would say so. much more dangerous than Danny Williams, More Dangerous than Kirk Johnson more dangerous than McClein if you disagree then I dont know what to say to you

[kaygb]

Typical Ruskull, just calls people names. Nothing to add.
I can not believe some of you condone someone holding the heavyweight division up for 2 years! "I am ok to fight" then "I am not ok to fight" etc., etc. And comes back to fight guy who doesn't fight. Where is Mccline ranked??
#41. Wow! Vitali is playing you guys for chumps. It's incredible you are that naive'. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Bazooka]

So why didn't he fight him then? Why did he fight Danny Williams instead?

I wish a Clit would expalin this so I can finally be at peace.

Didnt he say that Danny destroyed his dream to fight Mike Tyson that is why he wanted Williams? I mean come on Vitali Really wanted to fight Tyson after the way Lewis dominated him how pathetic is that?

[RUSKULL]

Actually, it's also a far easier fight. Unless he gets injured, McCline will go a few rounds. Vitali would blast Rahman out within 3 at the most.

I agree. McCline's chin is better than Rahman's and he has the height to give VK some work.

Rahman is done fighting quality opposition.

[RUSKULL]

And young Rahman is way more dangerous?

Exactly. I have a hard time believing that anyone who wants to fight Lewis is afraid of Rahman. Call me crazy........................

[Bazooka]

I agree. McCline's chin is better than Rahman's and he has the height to give VK some work.

Rahman is done fighting quality opposition.

And when is the last time McClein looked good fighting any Quality opposition? Shannon Fucking Briggs, oh wait Michael Grant I forgot, your right Ruskull Vitali is fighting a man who brings it all to the table:roll:

[RUSKULL]

I respect Bazooka most of the time and I love to point out the many Klit flaws and BS all the damn time, but I cannot for one moment think Vitali is a coward in fear of Rahman, damn it....

This is your first step toward redemption Mr. Doyle! :happy

[Thread Stealer]

So why didn't he fight him then? Why did he fight Danny Williams instead?

I wish a Clit would expalin this so I can finally be at peace.

Vitali didn't fight Danny Williams instead of Hasim Rahman. Rahman became the WBC mandatory about a month before Vitali beat Williams. Williams was Vitali's optimal defense, so Vitali was required to fight Hasim in his next fight. Vitali wanted to fight Calvin Brock instead, but the WBC said he had to fight Rahman, so Vitali and Rahman were scheduled to fight (the last date being November 2005), but Vitali got injured 3 or 4 times, so it never took place.

[Bazooka]

This is your first step toward redemption Mr. Doyle! :happy

Like the man really needs your approval to feel accepted

[RUSKULL]

True and an old Lewis still beat Vitali Klitschko beleive me Vitali is lucky the fight was stopped there, he was on his way to getting knocked out by Lewis.
and whats this credability shit you speak of anyways? what kind of credit do you have? what are your credentials in the sport, mine are minimum but i can bet they are much more than what you have.

"I know you are but what am I?"

Are you like 10 or 12 years old?

[AJAX]

So why didn't he fight him then? Why did he fight Danny Williams instead?

I wish a Clit would expalin this so I can finally be at peace.

first of all it's a non issue, and the reason ...my guess would be that he wanted to fight the guy who just beat mike Tyson. and at that time Williams was a name at that point. Bringing this stupid subject up is a joke to begin with.

[RUSKULL]

And when is the last time McClein looked good fighting any Quality opposition? Shannon Fucking Briggs, oh wait Michael Grant I forgot, your right Ruskull Vitali is fighting a man who brings it all to the table:roll:

I thought Rahman beat Toney fairly easily although the judges thought otherwise. That was his last good fight and now he's done.

[kaygb]

Mccline could not even beat Zuri Lawrence for Christs sake. Let's see now he went to the third round in his last fight. Incredible!

[Bazooka]

I thought Rahman beat Toney fairly easily although the judges thought otherwise. That was his last good fight and now he's done.

Again when was the last time McClein looked good against any quality opposition? dont avoid that question answer it since you claim to be all knowing.
And the Toney fight wasnt Rahmans last good performance he did look good with Maskaev even though he lost, I mean Vitali did look good against Lewis which is why he has gotten as much credit as he has.

[Bazooka]

Mccline could not even beat Zuri Lawrence for Christs sake. Let's see now he went to the third round in his last fight. Incredible!

Which is exactly the reason Vitali is fighting him

[Zakman]

Again when was the last time McClein looked good against any quality opposition? dont avoid that question answer it since you claim to be all knowing.
And the Toney fight wasnt Rahmans last good performance he did look good with Maskaev even though he lost, I mean Vitali did look good against Lewis which is why he has gotten as much credit as he has.
Rahman didn't look particularly good against Oleg before he got starched (AGAIN) - I think the judges, or at least one or two of 'em, had it for Oleg.

Rahman is, and always has been, a glass jawed JOKE, a one-hit wonder who has basically been beaten, and usually by KO, every time he's stepped it up - and sometimes even when he hasn't.

People seem to forget that Rahman "earned" his title shot against Vitali by fighting a bunch of low-level tomato cans, and I believe he almost LOST to an ancient Al Cole! It was a joke he was getting a title shot against Vitali, and he would have been KTFO early - far earlier than Danny Williams, btw.

[Bazooka]

You do realize, that Vitali was also willing to fight Big George Foreman had he beat Lennox Lewis, I mean during that fight on the HBO telecast Lampley Merchant and Foreman were all in discussion about it saying that Vitali would love to give Foreman a shot, pretty fucking pathetic that someone would actually consider fighting a 50 plus year old man

[kaygb]

I think the whole point here is why is vitali fighting #41 ranked Mccline who could not even go 3 rounds in his last fight? This guy doesn't even throw punches. We wait years to se Vitali fight again and he picks Mccline. What a
waste of time. "Oh he's a big guy and he'll give Vitali some work" :patsch

[BewareofDawg]

I think the whole point here is why is vitali fighting #41 ranked Mccline who could not even go 3 rounds in his last fight? This guy doesn't even throw punches. We wait years to se Vitali fight again and he picks Mccline. What a
waste of time. "Oh he's a big guy and he'll give Vitali some work" :patsch
Go bury your face back in Presscotts ass you fucking fag :deal What the hell do you expect the guy to do? He tried to comeback after a ridiculously long layoff and fight for the title but everyone bitched and moaned that he was stepping on Peters dick. So he's taking a tune-up.....something you should do anyway after a long layoff.

[Bazooka]

Go bury your face back in Presscotts ass you fucking fag :deal What the hell do you expect the guy to do? He tried to comeback after a ridiculously long layoff and fight for the title but everyone bitched and moaned that he was stepping on Peters dick. So he's taking a tune-up.....something you should do anyway after a long layoff.

you consider McClein a tune up? for what? a fight with Michael Grant?

[BewareofDawg]

you consider McClein a tune up? for what? a fight with Michael Grant?
It was alright when brock beat him wasn't it? Brock was the NEXT BIG THING after he beat McCline :lol: Don't worry, Vitali will kick the shit out of one of the title holders soon enough :good

[AJAX]

You do realize, that Vitali was also willing to fight Big George Foreman had he beat Lennox Lewis, I mean during that fight on the HBO telecast Lampley Merchant and Foreman were all in discussion about it saying that Vitali would love to give Foreman a shot, pretty fucking pathetic that someone would actually consider fighting a 50 plus year old man

now your grasping for straws and your starting to remind me of VB77 and all of his brilliance:roll:

[Bazooka]

now your grasping for straws and your starting to remind me of VB77 and all of his brilliance:roll:

its the truth watch that Lewis Klitschko fight and listen they were really considering this shit.

[Bazooka]

I remember that. I bet it's on YouTube.

But yeah, I remember George and Lampley talking about that.

They will deny that fact though to their last breath ohh no god no Vitali would never do something like that, get fucking real

[kaygb]

Back to name calling I see Beware of Dawg. I don't see how you can show your face around here anymore as you were the only one who tried to come back under an alias when you were off the board during the PBF/Oscar loss.
Admin almost banned you and should have. Trying to sneak back in is just like a worm like you would try to do. A man with no honor. What a waste!

[Bazooka]

Back to name calling I see Beware of Dawg. I don't see how you can show your face around here anymore as you were the only one who tried to come back under an alias when you were off the board during the PBF/Oscar loss.
Admin almost banned you and should have. Trying to sneak back in is just like a worm like you would try to do. A man with no honor. What a waste!

Wow he doesnt even honor a bet how fucking pathetic is that? I man with out his word is no man thats a bitch straight up

[Sputnik44]

OK seriously this is the worst attempt to put down a Klitschko I've seen in a long time...First if you're gonna bitch about the fighter he chose to fight at least spell the name right...

I've watched your ignorant posts call him McClein...It's Jameel McCline not a hard name...

beyond that for you to say that Vitali ducked Rahman at any point past or present carries with it the stench of hating

Listen Rahman is washed up he hasn't done anything worthwhile in years, but Vitali would step in to fight Lennox Lewis on short notice and then run away from Rahman?? come on

if Vitali comes out of retirement and beats a Rahman that struggled with taurus sykes what does that accomplish other than haters claiming it would have been diffrent 3 or 4 years ago...

your argument is laughable, your posts are filled with hate spite and jelousy and your credibility for any future post has been greatly diminished

[Bazooka]

What Jelousy? get fucking real and re read my post I spelled the mans name correct you just cant see it becuase your have Vitalis Balls covering your eyes becuase you have his cock so far down your god damn throat.

[Sputnik44]

Again when was the last time McClein looked good against any quality opposition? dont avoid that question answer it since you claim to be all knowing.
And the Toney fight wasnt Rahmans last good performance he did look good with Maskaev even though he lost, I mean Vitali did look good against Lewis which is why he has gotten as much credit as he has.



Tell me you spelled Jameel's name correctly you ignorant waste of oxygen...just another example of you making things up to suite your delusional reality

[Bazooka]

Tell me you spelled Jameel's name correctly you ignorant waste of oxygen...just another example of you making things up to suite your delusional reality

Sure it is, But then again your all for the man fighting this bum, whats that say about you.

[Bazooka]

Anybody who bought into that ridiculous hype by Rahman's promotional team has to be delusional. Vitali wanted to punish Rahman, which he could have done in his sleep. No one in all of boxing ever avoided Rahman, no one. Vitali was plagued by recurring injuries, end of story, unless you just like swallow ridiculous hype. If you do I got a great bridge in Minneapolis I'd like to sell you, slightly used, slightly in need of repair, but perfect for a genius who thinks anyone, especially vitali, was/is scared of Rawman.

Well Vitali seemingly found every excuse not to fight Rahman and like I said he could have taken that fight instead of the shit he took with McCline McClein or who ever the fuck that bum is, Vitali vs Rahman would have made much more money anyways, and if you think not your an idiot.

[Zakman]

People seem to forget that Rahman "earned" his title shot against Vitali by fighting a bunch of low-level tomato cans, and I believe he almost LOST to an ancient Al Cole! It was a joke he was getting a title shot against Vitali, and he would have been KTFO early - far earlier than Danny Williams, btw. :nod

At least Danny Williams - and McCline - have chins. Rahman is, and always has been, a glass-jawed JOKE. Vitali would have annihilated him then, and he would today.

[AJAX]

Go back to your VB77 confrontation, he's the only one who you have any hope of winning an arguement. I think Bazooka trolls more than Sweet Pea Zelelnoff

[Bazooka]

Go back to your VB77 confrontation, he's the only one who you have any hope of winning an arguement. I think Bazooka trolls more than Sweet Pea Zelelnoff

Whats the matter AJAX am I being to hard on your boyfriend?

[Bazooka]

People seem to forget that Rahman "earned" his title shot against Vitali by fighting a bunch of low-level tomato cans, and I believe he almost LOST to an ancient Al Cole! It was a joke he was getting a title shot against Vitali, and he would have been KTFO early - far earlier than Danny Williams, btw. :nod

At least Danny Williams - and McCline - have chins. Rahman is, and always has been, a glass-jawed JOKE. Vitali would have annihilated him then, and he would today.

Rahman might have a glass chin true, hell he might even be a joke in the sport but he has accomplished more in the sport than Vitali Williams and McCline all combined, and one thing about this joke he has never quit a fight NEVER.
True champions never quit.

[AJAX]

Whats the matter AJAX am I being to hard on your boyfriend?

that's the most intelligent thing you've said all day:good

[Thread Stealer]

True champions never quit.

I beg to differ.

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[Bazooka]

that's the most intelligent thing you've said all day:good

Oh Shit :gayfight Looks like the secret is out:hey

[Bazooka]

I have come to grips with the reality that I know absolutely Squat about analyzing and picking outcomes of fights. My most recent gems are:
Hoya TKO Floyd
Judah TKO Cotto
Wright TKO Hopkins :rofl :patsch (I'm serious with this one :verysad )


From your own words yourself son!!! so what the fuck are you doing talking shit since you yourself said you dont know squat about analyzing and picking out comes of fights. this is boxing you cant just predict em all correct, you can voice your opinion but that isnt always the truth sometimes.

[Zakman]

Rahman might have a glass chin true, hell he might even be a joke in the sport but he has accomplished more in the sport than Vitali Williams and McCline all combined, and one thing about this joke he has never quit a fight NEVER.
True champions never quit.

Rahman has accomplished more in the sport than Vitali, Williams and McCline combined??? You've gotta be joking. The ONE thing he did worth mentioning was to knock out Lewis, who was exactly ironed-chinned himself, and who then disposed of the china-chinned Rahman quickly like he should have the first time. That's it. Otherwise he's basically lost against any decent fighter he's ever faced - and some not so decent - often getting knocked into "bolivian." Hardly much to crow about.

[Bazooka]

Rahman has accomplished more in the sport than Vitali, Williams and McCline combined??? You've gotta be joking. The ONE thing he did worth mentioning was to knock out Lewis, who was exactly ironed-chinned himself, and who then disposed of the china-chinned Rahman quickly like he should have the first time. That's it. Otherwise he's basically lost against any decent fighter he's ever faced - and some not so decent - often getting knocked into "bolivian." Hardly much to crow about.

he is a two time Heavyweight Champion Vitali isnt, McCline isnt Williams isnt. so yes when you combine the three you still dont get that out come.

[Zakman]

he is a two time Heavyweight Champion Vitali isnt, McCline isnt Williams isnt. so yes when you combine the three you still dont get that out come.
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You can't be serious! You're counting Rahman as a "two-time champion" because he was GIVEN a belt he didn't fight for in the ring when Vitali retired. Those fractional belts are about as legitimate as something you'd get out of a Crakker Jack box! Quit grasping at straws.

[Thread Stealer]

he is a two time Heavyweight Champion Vitali isnt, McCline isnt Williams isnt. so yes when you combine the three you still dont get that out come.

Well by that criteria, Rahman could be more accomplished than Langford, Shavers, Burley, and Willis put together. :lol:

But Rahman was/is more accomplished than Vitali.

Sure Vitali probably would have been a favorite over Rahman and probably would have beaten him.

But that's speculation, and Rahman achieved more. At least when he had an underprepared Lewis in front of him, he WON the fight.

[Bazooka]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You can't be serious! You're counting Rahman as a "two-time champion" because he was GIVEN a belt he didn't fight for in the ring when Vitali retired. Those fractional belts are about as legitimate as something you'd get out of a ******* Jack box! Quit grasping at straws.

he fought for it, he beat Monte Barrett for it, let me put it to you this way, Had you fought in a WBC ordered box off for a vacant title, and won would you consider yourself not a champion? I didnt think so, So why should Rahman not consider that a title, its not his fault Vitali retired, Rahman won that belt by following the rules of the WBC no different than the way Lennox Lewis won his second title, and the first title Lewis got was straight out of the trash can, isnt he to recogonized as a three time Heavyweight champion?

[Zakman]

Arguing with you Klit-haters is a waste of time. I'm not even a fan of the Klitschkos, but if you can't see that Vitali was ten time the fighter glass-jawed joke Rahman was, there is just not much more to discuss.

[Bazooka]

Arguing with you Klit-haters is a waste of time. I'm not even a fan of the Klitschkos, but if you can't see that Vitali was ten time the fighter glass-jawed joke Rahman was, there is just not much more to discuss.

Zak--

Be honest though just answer me, had you fought in a WBC ordered Box off for the vacant title and won would you not consider yourself a world champion? yes or no its a simple one Zak and being as educated about this sport as you are I am sure you can answer this honestly.

[Zakman]

Zak--

Be honest though just answer me, had you fought in a WBC ordered Box off for the vacant title and won would you not consider yourself a world champion? yes or no its a simple one Zak and being as educated about this sport as you are I am sure you can answer this honestly.

You mean AFTER the title was vacant? Sure. But this practice of awarding titles is THOROUGHLY illegitimate - and in any event it's not the "real" title.

Basically, if Rahman had one the belt, he would have been a fractional beltholder, nothing more. This business of calling guys "three time champs" based on winning a fractional belt is only debtably valid in the case of guys who recognized top fighters in the sport like Lewis or Holyfield - let alone guys like Rahman, who NOBODY recognized as the top fighter in the sport.

[Mrboogie23]

You mean AFTER the title was vacant? Sure. But this practice of awarding titles is THOROUGHLY illegitimate - and in any event it's not the "real" title.

Basically, if Rahman had one the belt, he would have been a fractional beltholder, nothing more. This business of calling guys "three time champs" based on winning a fractional belt is only debtably valid in the case of guys who recognized top fighters in the sport like Lewis or Holyfield - let alone guys like Rahman, who NOBODY recognized as the top fighter in the sport.


good post Zakman. I agree.

[Bazooka]

You mean AFTER the title was vacant? Sure. But this practice of awarding titles is THOROUGHLY illegitimate - and in any event it's not the "real" title.

Basically, if Rahman had one the belt, he would have been a fractional beltholder, nothing more. This business of calling guys "three time champs" based on winning a fractional belt is only debtably valid in the case of guys who recognized top fighters in the sport like Lewis or Holyfield - let alone guys like Rahman, who NOBODY recognized as the top fighter in the sport.

So then in your eyes Lennox Lewis is not a three time world champion, you still didnt answer the qusetion though, would you not consider yourself a champion had you won that title? and he did win it through the box off becuase the WBC did state that Vitali must face the winner with in so many days or the winner would be declaired the champion how fucking hard is that for you to understand?

[Bazooka]

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[madpup]

Bazooka....you need psychiatric help

[Bazooka]

Bazooka....you need psychiatric help

For what telling the truth?

[AJAX]

your really not even worth debating with, bringing up something from a few yrs back to try to hate on somebody is really pathetic:tired

[Bazooka]

your really not even worth debating with, bringing up something from a few yrs back to try to hate on somebody is really pathetic:tired

You mean like crying about Lewis retiring?

[paulfv]

Yeah you got it, Vitali was afraid of Hasim Rahman :roll:

Exactly.

One of the weakest arguments ever.

What was VK afraid of, knocking him only 5 feet out of the ring instead of the 7-8 Maskaev did?

Rahman was twiced OWNED by Oleg Maskaev. That's about all you need to know. Vitali would have decapitated him.

[El Bombasto]

We all know the reality of this bum, he avoided a fight with Rahman for two years keeping the heavyweight divison on hold, after all the shit talking he did about Lewis when he was on hold pondering his retirment, what does Vitali do? especially when he is forced to take his mandotory, pathetic, since he fought Lennox Vitali showed great heart in fighting guys like Danny Williams:roll: Kirk Bubba Johnson :roll: and old ass Corrie I am washed up and a part time fighter Sanders:roll:

The very moment he was mandated to face Hasim Rahman all of the sudden he had injuries how pathetic, all the shit talking about Lewis retiring yet he does the same thing.

The only difference is he comes out of retirment to prove he was fucking lying all together from the start and who does he take in his first fight? McClein, he could have easily fought Rahman and cleared the smoke up, but elected to fight this fucking bum instead.
V Klitschko is a fucking coward straight up, and he is a crybaby who has nothing better to do other than to stalk a 43 year old Lennox Lewis.

so i guess you think rahman can beat klitschko?

[Bazooka]

Exactly.

One of the weakest arguments ever.

What was VK afraid of, knocking him only 5 feet out of the ring instead of the 7-8 Maskaev did?

Rahman was twiced OWNED by Oleg Maskaev. That's about all you need to know. Vitali would have decapitated him.

Paul, nobody said he was affraid of Rahman, I simply stated that VK should have took that fight rather than the fight he has now, McCline isnt shit and wont do shit for his career, Rahman still has a win over Lewis is a former two time HW champion and basicly this is un finished business this fight would do far better for VK than the fight he has now that simple.
but he has chosen to take a fight with a guy who is known for freezing in big fights its pathetic. if your going to pick a bum pick the one that you had lined up to fight before you retired, dont pick the one who never did anything in the sport.

[Bazooka]

so i guess you think rahman can beat klitschko?

No! but I will tell you this its a better fight than a fight with McCline.

[AJAX]

I actually thought he should have fought rachman as well, but there could be many reasons why it didn't happen.Is Rachman still with King? I'm not sure anymore but that would be one reason. after getting KO'd by Oleg the second time his stock has fallen to an all time low. and after his last fight he prooved he is finshed.

[paulfv]

Paul, nobody said he was affraid of Rahman, I simply stated that VK should have took that fight rather than the fight he has now, McCline isnt shit and wont do shit for his career, Rahman still has a win over Lewis is a former two time HW champion and basicly this is un finished business this fight would do far better for VK than the fight he has now that simple.
but he has chosen to take a fight with a guy who is known for freezing in big fights its pathetic. if your going to pick a bum pick the one that you had lined up to fight before you retired, dont pick the one who never did anything in the sport.

Oh, ok. I got it. :good

I wish he would fight Rahman now. That would be great.

[Bazooka]

I actually thought he should have fought rachman as well, but there could be many reasons why it didn't happen.Is Rachman still with King? I'm not sure anymore but that would be one reason. after getting KO'd by Oleg the second time his stock has fallen to an all time low. and after his last fight he prooved he is finshed.

I dont think it proves he is finished I just think that he feel asleep in the second half of that fight and paid for it. or maybe he didnt train as much you never know, I doubt Rahman is with King anymore but I cant be sure about that.
However Vitali does want to fight the winner of Oleg vs Peter, and being that Oleg is a live guy even against Peter and being that Oleg did knock Vitali out in the amateurs it would be good fight for Vitali to take with Rahman as a messuring stick if Oleg should get past Peter.
However I am not so sure he gets past Peter, what I do know though is taking a fight with a lesser guy who has done absoloutly nothing isnt going to help him, Especially when that guy is comming off of an injury himself.

[AJAX]

don't forget Vitali hasn't fought in years, he is fighting a big guy who was somewhat of a contender at one point. I'm sure he wants to see where he stands before he goes against Oleg-Peter.

[Bazooka]

don't forget Vitali hasn't fought in years, he is fighting a big guy who was somewhat of a contender at one point. I'm sure he wants to see where he stands before he goes against Oleg-Peter.

I understand that, But at the same time you have to understand that while Vitali left due to injurys he comes back to fight a man comming off of an injury during a big fight, so really Vitali as it stands gets little credit if any for this fight, and with the previous injury of McClines he will not get any credit if that injury becomes a factor

[AJAX]

well, I don't think he's looking for credit in this one, he's trying to shake the rust and see where he's at. He's also gettin up there in age. Look who chris Bryd, Brock,Toney, Rachman and even Valuev have fought or are fighting. Cut him some slack

[Suge Green]

The way some of you are holding on tightly to your biases is predictable. What happened Zakman...???
Although you've always disliked Rahman you seem to have combined your dislike for Ruiz, with your's for him.

Although not a fan of Hasim Rahman, I am able to look at this thing with the proper perspective, unlike some here. You all are looking at things with todays prespective, and things have changed. The key words are "at the time..."

at the time...Vitklit backed out of a Rahman encounter on four different occasions.

at the time...Hasim was 1-1 with Lewis (aka undisputed and no unavenged losses), a fighter who had recently performed major eye surgery on V.KLIT.

at the time...the only other losses on Rahman's record were to Oleg Maskaev (who obviously has his number), who happened to beat Vitali in the amateurs...also a hard hitting Tua in his prime (who also stopped Maskaev)...and the freak Holyfield fight. Losses to Ruiz don't count. A loss to Ruiz does not require an asterisk...the name Ruiz is an asterisk.

at the time...the glass jaw that Zak believes is checked so easily,(and who am I to argue...???) hadn't been exposed yet.

At this time, nobody believes VITkLIT is afraid of Rahman. Still though, the developments that have taken place should not cloud our memories as to how things were back then. :bart

[RUSKULL]

And when is the last time McClein looked good fighting any Quality opposition? Shannon Fucking Briggs, oh wait Michael Grant I forgot, your right Ruskull Vitali is fighting a man who brings it all to the table:roll:

McCline is just off a title shot in which he did fairly well until his knee, ankle or whatever went out on him.

All in all Jameel is a real challenge for any guy coming out of being retired for over 2 years. Maybe a spot or 2 below the likes of Brock, who he lost a close one to Brock, after knocking Brock down for the first time in Calvin's career if I remember correctly.



I honestly think it's a pretty bold move on VK's part.

[RUSKULL]

Go bury your face back in Presscotts ass you fucking fag :deal What the hell do you expect the guy to do? He tried to comeback after a ridiculously long layoff and fight for the title but everyone bitched and moaned that he was stepping on Peters dick. So he's taking a tune-up.....something you should do anyway after a long layoff.

:lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol:

[RUSKULL]

Back to name calling I see Beware of Dawg. I don't see how you can show your face around here anymore as you were the only one who tried to come back under an alias when you were off the board during the PBF/Oscar loss.
Admin almost banned you and should have. Trying to sneak back in is just like a worm like you would try to do. A man with no honor. What a waste!

Here you go with the honor bullshit, what are you,? A Boyscout?

[H .]

McCline is just off a title shot in which he did fairly well until his knee, ankle or whatever went out on him.

All in all Jameel is a real challenge for any guy coming out of being retired for over 2 years. Maybe a spot or 2 below the likes of Brock, who he lost a close one to, after knocking Brock down for the first time in Calvin's career if I remember correctly.



I honestly think it's a pretty bold move on VK's part.

:yep

[RUSKULL]

well, I don't think he's looking for credit in this one, he's trying to shake the rust and see where he's at. He's also gettin up there in age. Look who chris Bryd, Brock,Toney, Rachman and even Valuev have fought or are fighting. Cut him some slack

Byrd just fought some guy from North Carolina that I never heard of and I live here!

Brock KO'd a tomato can, then UD'd another one.

Toney should've lost to some tomato can.

Rachman UD'd Taurus Sykes, a punching bag.

Valuev is set to face some rare Canadian tomato named Bergeron or something like that.

[Bazooka]

McCline is just off a title shot in which he did fairly well until his knee, ankle or whatever went out on him.

.

Get fucking real you cant tell me how McCline was doing off of a fight that lasted less than three rounds stop sucking Vitalis dick already.

[Suge Green]

Vitali is not even HALF the man his brother is.

Wlad, even with his lame chin, takes on the best the Hvywt division has to offer.

I don't know...If it was Wlad vs. Lewis, I don't think there would be any speculation about a 7th round (WLAD probably would have gone down already, or TKO). Although again and again he has proved injury prone prior to bouts, VITKLIT at the same time has proved himself to be the more durable KLIT in the ring when he makes it to the bout.

Also...I'd hardly call the list of sacrifices to the boxing gods that W.KLIT is executing, courtesy of the International Bum Federation, the best. :smoke

[Zakman]

at the time...Vitklit backed out of a Rahman encounter on four different occasions.

at the time...Hasim was 1-1 with Lewis (aka undisputed and no unavenged losses), a fighter who had recently performed major eye surgery on V.KLIT.

at the time...the only other losses on Rahman's record were to Oleg Maskaev (who obviously has his number), who happened to beat Vitali in the amateurs...also a hard hitting Tua in his prime (who also stopped Maskaev)...and the freak Holyfield fight. Losses to Ruiz don't count. A loss to Ruiz does not require an asterisk...the name Ruiz is an asterisk.

at the time...the glass jaw that Zak believes is checked so easily,(and who am I to argue...???) hadn't been exposed yet.
AT THE TIME, all Rahman had done to justify his title shot was to fight a bunch of tomato cans. It wasn't until after the last postponement that he fought his first live body since Holyfield beat him, fringe contender Monte Barrett. You guys make out like this china-chinned loser was some big threat to Vitali, but he was mediocre - everyone KNEW he was mediocre, and so did Vitali and his advisors. The idea that Vitali would retire because he was "scared" of this glass-jawed joke is LUDICROUS.

[Cruiser1]

Vitali Klitschko never beat anybody special. He quit on his stool against feather fisted Byrd while Holyfield and Lacy fought on with basically the same injuries. He made Rahman jump through hoops to fight him postponing the fight like 3 times before ducking out the back door with injuries that aren't really ever capable of fully healing.

Then he comes back and has the nerve to wanna fight Oleg Maskaev and just step right in front of Samuel Peter who won not one but TWO eliminators against James Toney. When the WBC comes to their senses and gives Peter his fight Vitali then goes after Jameel McCline. :-(

The guy is more politician than fighter. He should take notes from his brother Wlad, who does seem willing to want to fight the best.

[Suge Green]

"Not a Shot" Brock and Ray "Who?" Austin...the best.

He got out of the Briggs matchup and had Lyakhovich calling him out before settling for the #1:lol: Brock.

"WLAD fights the best" is bullshit.

[Suge Green]

I dont know if you noticed, but there not alot of talent out there in the Hvywt divison.

So yeah, those are the best that are out there now.

I'm not trying to make a case for Wlad to be considered an ATG. I'm just saying the dude is active and defending his belt. The comp was just as weak when Vitali was champ, and he did neither.

I understand what you are saying about VITKLIT, I just don't see how WLAD is a positive contrast with him. I previously stated that both Lyakhovich and Briggs were both wanting the fight, and Sergei had a damned belt...WLAD fights what the International Bum Federation sends his way, not by any stretch the best.

[Zakman]

Hey Zakman, how come the thread shuts down everytime I ask questions like this?:yep

It's like you Vitali Clits never has a respone.:yep

Jeez, can't a guy go outside and have a freakin's smoke?? Let's get something straight, OK - I'm no big fan of Vitali. But his fighting Maskaev is a whole different ballgame that Rahman - or Briggs, for that matter - getting title shots they don't deserve fighting a bunch of stiffs. Maskaev is the belt-holder - sure he also got a undeserved title shot, but he took advantage of Rahman's glass jaw and won. Of course, Vitali doesn't deserve his title shot at all either, but that's a whole 'nuther can of worms. The bottom line is that neither Rahman nor Maskaev are as good as Vitali, that's all I'm saying.

[Suge Green]

The bottom line is that neither Rahman nor Maskaev are as good as Vitali, that's all I'm saying.

A fine point...but, you quickly disregard that Maskaev took him in the amateurs. They've only gone head to head the one time, but you can't disregard it until they meet again.

Afterall, Maskaev has proven on two occasions he has Rahman's number, Vitali on four occasions has proven nothing.:smoke

[Shotgun]

People are still talking about the Maskaev shit?

The only reason the Maskaev match was proposed was because Rahman was going to fight Barrett in August, and would've taken place in September. The Maskaev match would've been a tuneup for VK coming off an injury, and would not have delayed the Rahman fight unless he lost

How the fuck can someone say a proposed tuneup against Maskaev shows he was scared of that chump Rahman, when Maskaev owned and humiliated Rahman TWICE :rofl

[SevenSamurai]

Hm, it is just me or became the klitscko haters worse than the Klitschko nuthuggers?

There are more haters for sure on this forum for the Klitschko's- irrational haters. It is a backlash I think to how this forum used to be. Three years ago plus on this forum, it was definately a pro-Klitschko forum to an absurd level, but those days are long gone.

[Odo]

We all know the reality of this bum, he avoided a fight with Rahman for two years keeping the heavyweight divison on hold, after all the shit talking he did about Lewis when he was on hold pondering his retirment, what does Vitali do? especially when he is forced to take his mandotory, pathetic, since he fought Lennox Vitali showed great heart in fighting guys like Danny Williams:roll: Kirk Bubba Johnson :roll: and old ass Corrie I am washed up and a part time fighter Sanders:roll:

The very moment he was mandated to face Hasim Rahman all of the sudden he had injuries how pathetic, all the shit talking about Lewis retiring yet he does the same thing.

The only difference is he comes out of retirment to prove he was fucking lying all together from the start and who does he take in his first fight? McClein, he could have easily fought Rahman and cleared the smoke up, but elected to fight this fucking bum instead.
V Klitschko is a fucking coward straight up, and he is a crybaby who has nothing better to do other than to stalk a 43 year old Lennox Lewis.

:yepHasim Rahman the most intimidating fighter on earth.Hell's living terror on our planet.
Of course Vitaly didnt want to fight that all time great.
Damn! Vitaly,you are a coward!:rofl

[Zakman]

:yepHasim Rahman the most intimidating fighter on earth.Hell's living terror on our planet.
Of course Vitaly didnt want to fight that all time great.
Damn! Vitaly,you are a coward!:rofl

Yeah, I'm sure Rahman's china chin had him quivering in his boots!:lol::lol:

[Shotgun]

Yeah, I'm sure Rahman's china chin had him quivering in his boots!:lol::lol:
:rofl

These guys don't even understand what they're talking about. They need to check the facts, when bringing stuff up like the proposed Maskaev bout

That bout was only considered with the following timeline

1. Vitali had back surgery and it was announced he'd be ready to return to the ring by September

2. In a cash grab move to line their pockets and give a Don King fighter an undeserved title shot, the WBC ordered that Rahman and Barrett fight for the "interim" WBC title and right to fight Vitali. This fight was scheduled for August

3. Vitali had been planning on returning to the ring to defend against Rahman in September. When it was announced that Rahman would be fighting in August, Vitali and his team kicked around the idea of fighting Maskaev in September as a tune up for a fight in December with Rahman. Either way, regardless of whether or not he fought Maskaev, the plan was for him to fight Rahman in December

Injuries did him in. He became frustrated with repeated injuries. These injuries were serious enough to require surgery. The idea that he had reputable doctors perform fake surgeries on him and left a guaranteed $8 million on the table because he was scared of Hasim Rahman is absolutely hysterical :rofl

And what's more ironic is that they claim he was trying to "duck" Rahman to fight Maskaev. Firstly, that's not the case. The idea that you would "duck" someone in order to fight an opponent that KTFO and humiliated the guy you're "ducking" on two separate occasions :lol:

[AJAX]

I find it amazing how people even talk about ameteur fights to try to bring him down, and talk about things from yrs ago again and again.It must make people quiver when the K's win fights, because some of them only post about the K's nothing else. It must be tough going through life trying to do nothing but bring someone else down.

[RUSKULL]

Get fucking real you cant tell me how McCline was doing off of a fight that lasted less than three rounds stop sucking Vitalis dick already.

:nut What's with you and men sucking dick? I'm happily married so no, you can't suck my dick. :nono May I suggest you seek out one of the flamboyant posters in the Lounge..................:hey

[RUSKULL]

I don't know...If it was Wlad vs. Lewis, I don't think there would be any speculation about a 7th round (WLAD probably would have gone down already, or TKO). Although again and again he has proved injury prone prior to bouts, VITKLIT at the same time has proved himself to be the more durable KLIT in the ring when he makes it to the bout.

Also...I'd hardly call the list of sacrifices to the boxing gods that W.KLIT is executing, courtesy of the International Bum Federation, the best. :smoke

Superman, Spiderman & Batman weren't available so Wlad had to fight an undefeated Sam Peter, Chris Byrd for the IBF belt, undefeated Calvin Brock, mandatory Ray Austin and avenge a previous defeat to Brewster. What the fuck more do you want?

Speak up there Sugie, who is worthy to challenge the HW King? Last month you were crying for Wlad to fight Briggs.........sounds like that may be a bad idea at this point since Briggs can only stay awake for a couple of rounds.

[RUSKULL]

Hey Zakman, how come the thread shuts down everytime I ask questions like this?:yep

It's like you Vitali Clits never has a respone.:yep

We speak English here.........................:deal

[RUSKULL]

I understand what you are saying about VITKLIT, I just don't see how WLAD is a positive contrast with him. I previously stated that both Lyakhovich and Briggs were both wanting the fight, and Sergei had a damned belt...WLAD fights what the International Bum Federation sends his way, not by any stretch the best.

Open a book and read a bit. Reading comprehension isn't your thing. A while back Liakhovich pulled out of a fight against Wlad because he couldn't get a Visa.

[Bazooka]

Dog Rahman all you want, the man has never quit a fight, you cant say the same for either Klitschko. Vitali was never a True HW Champion that is a fact how do you become the ring champion when you do not face the ring champ to get that title? and you cant say that he beat Sanders for it, becuase Sanders was not ranked by the Ring, and he was not rated at all by the WBC IBF or the WBA, if you remember correctly Sanders held the WBO title when their fight was put together and when you hold one title the remaining sanctioning mobs do not rate you.
So as far as Lewis vacating the title according to the rules of the WBC the vacant title is supposed to be fought by the #1 and #2 contender if not #2 then #3 no where in the top 15 was Sanders rated becuase he was the WBO title. so like it or not, Vitali really never was a Heavyweight champion

[don owens]

Vitali Klitschko is no coward. afraid of what, Rahman? Rahman is a lucky one punch wonder. Klitschko once fought a kick boxing bout in which his leg was broken during the fight and he kept fighting and won. Ive had a torn rotator cuff and can be a bitch. he gave Byrd a gift and was able to fight again and become wbc champ. he will kick McClines ass and demolish Sam Peter. Peter is vastly overrated. Anybody that steps in the ring has courage and to say otherwise doesnt hold water. however it turns out it is interesting that Lewis is expressing interest in a rematch if the money is right. I guess according to your reasoning, since Klitschko is a coward, then what does that reason make Lewis for coming back and fighting him if the money is right. Your just a hater, admit it. your reasoning is in the shitter.

[A-50]

There is not a fighter today that could KO Dr. Vitali Klitschko. Vitali wil resume his status as the emporer of the Heavyweight division. He would brutaly KO Wlad.

[Suge Green]

Open a book and read a bit. Reading comprehension isn't your thing. A while back Liakhovich pulled out of a fight against Wlad because he couldn't get a Visa.

...and memory isn't yours. Being the KLIT-ite that you are, you know that the KLITs don't even hold the visa thing against Sergei, they claim Sergei really wanted the fight...and besides Lyakhovich called him out since then, so who the fuck are you kidding...??? Don't post such selective BS.

I didn't think KLIT should have fought Briggs one month ago, several actually. Back when Finkel used his name to get MSG.

Asking me to speak up about who WLAD should fight is lame. I am vocal enough in this area. He should unify, and rematch Peter asap.

[Brent]

I'd love to see one of the keyboard warriors here on ESB call VK a coward to his face.

Vitali Klitschko was the best of a mediocre bunch, but he was pretty fucking dominant HW fighter among his peers and had a great KO percentage. He gave the last unified champion 6 rounds of hell in their meeting, losing due to a cut while ahead on the scorecards.

Most of all, the guy had the guts to face professional HW boxers in the ring - he didn't hide behind a keyboard. He took shots from Lewis and Sanders.

And some ESB keyboard warrior geek calls the man a coward.

[Shotgun]

how do you become the ring champion when you do not face the ring champ to get that title? and you cant say that he beat Sanders for it, becuase Sanders was not ranked by the Ring

So as far as Lewis vacating the title according to the rules of the WBC the vacant title is supposed to be fought by the #1 and #2 contender if not #2 then #3 no where in the top 15 was Sanders rated becuase he was the WBO title. so like it or not, Vitali really never was a Heavyweight champion

Now you're just making things up. Sanders vacated the WBO title in 2003. Vitali was WBC #1, Sanders WBC #2. Vitali was Ring #1, Sanders was Ring #3. Saying he wasn't ranked by the Ring or WBC is incorrect, he was ranked by both

[Thread Stealer]

Dog Rahman all you want, the man has never quit a fight, you cant say the same for either Klitschko. Vitali was never a True HW Champion that is a fact how do you become the ring champion when you do not face the ring champ to get that title? and you cant say that he beat Sanders for it, becuase Sanders was not ranked by the Ring, and he was not rated at all by the WBC IBF or the WBA, if you remember correctly Sanders held the WBO title when their fight was put together and when you hold one title the remaining sanctioning mobs do not rate you.
So as far as Lewis vacating the title according to the rules of the WBC the vacant title is supposed to be fought by the #1 and #2 contender if not #2 then #3 no where in the top 15 was Sanders rated becuase he was the WBO title. so like it or not, Vitali really never was a Heavyweight champion

The Ring had Sanders at #3 when he fought Vitali. Vitali was the #1 contender in The Ring at the time.

Vitali was #10 when he fought Lewis, then they shot him up 6 spots to #4 once he lost to Lewis, and then to #1 when he beat Kirk Johnson.

[AJAX]

...and memory isn't yours. Being the KLIT-ite that you are, you know that the KLITs don't even hold the visa thing against Sergei, they claim Sergei really wanted the fight...and besides Lyakhovich called him out since then, so who the fuck are you kidding...??? Don't post such selective BS.

I didn't think KLIT should have fought Briggs one month ago, several actually. Back when Finkel used his name to get MSG.

Asking me to speak up about who WLAD should fight is lame. I am vocal enough in this area. He should unify, and rematch Peter asap.

very brilliant!!! When you were living in a cave I guess you didn't notice that Peter will be tied up for a while he's got Oleg-Vitali-and Mcall to contend with. So that leaves Sultan-Ruslan who are unifying and avoiding Wlad and with that fight off Sultan jumped on a fresh evander holyfield and Ruslan will be out for a while. So you can talk all you want about the same crap that you know won't change. why don't you bring up the Sanders fight or the first Brewster fight.......something a little more refreshing.:good

[BoxingGuru]

The name should be Stupid X 3 because he's just that.

[Suge Green]

very brilliant!!! When you were living in a cave I guess you didn't notice that Peter will be tied up for a while he's got Oleg-Vitali-and Mcall to contend with. So that leaves Sultan-Ruslan who are unifying and avoiding Wlad and with that fight off Sultan jumped on a fresh evander holyfield and Ruslan will be out for a while. So you can talk all you want about the same crap that you know won't change. why don't you bring up the Sanders fight or the first Brewster fight.......something a little more refreshing.:good

Who's living in a cave...WLAD fights the International Bum Federation's "best," you know like Calvin "Not a Shot" Brock and Ray "Who?" Austin, and you claim 2 champs that are unifying are doing so in avoidance of WLAD. Pass me some of what you are smoking.

If Chagaev and Ibragimov ever get around to unifying, it won't be for an alibi, as to why they didn't get in the ring with WLAD. It would be a case of the best, making an honest effort to fight the best.

What do you think asap means mr billiant...??? When I say KLIT should rematch Peter asap that means as soon as possible, as in after his immediate obligations are handled.

Another thing, there are enough WLAD threads...this one is about VITKLIT. I was here to give some additional insight on some events that may have been blocked out of the KLIT-ite psyche, either selectively or otherwise...which I did. But you're here to request more WLAD material in a Vitali thread...??? :oops:

[Fighting Weight]

Ive had a torn rotator cuff and can be a bitch.

Sorry, but :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Axe]

So an injury which forces one into retirement suggests cowardice? Funny, that.

[don owens]

tear one and fight with it is what i mean.

[Bazooka]

So an injury which forces one into retirement suggests cowardice? Funny, that.

No picking McCline as a first opponent is cowardly especially after you tried to get a immediate shot at the title first.

[H .]

No picking McCline as a first opponent is cowardly especially after you tried to get a immediate shot at the title first.

I thought McCline was a fair "stay busy" opponent. The best heavyweights seem occupied for now (not that there are many options).

[RUSKULL]

Who's living in a cave...WLAD fights the International Bum Federation's "best," you know like Calvin "Not a Shot" Brock and Ray "Who?" Austin, and you claim 2 champs that are unifying are doing so in avoidance of WLAD. Pass me some of what you are smoking.

If Chagaev and Ibragimov ever get around to unifying, it won't be for an alibi, as to why they didn't get in the ring with WLAD. It would be a case of the best, making an honest effort to fight the best.

What do you think asap means mr billiant...??? When I say KLIT should rematch Peter asap that means as soon as possible, as in after his immediate obligations are handled.

Another thing, there are enough WLAD threads...this one is about VITKLIT. I was here to give some additional insight on some events that may have been blocked out of the KLIT-ite psyche, either selectively or otherwise...which I did. But you're here to request more WLAD material in a Vitali thread...??? :oops:

Hypocrite.

[RUSKULL]

...and memory isn't yours. Being the KLIT-ite that you are, you know that the KLITs don't even hold the visa thing against Sergei, they claim Sergei really wanted the fight...and besides Lyakhovich called him out since then, so who the fuck are you kidding...??? Don't post such selective BS.

I didn't think KLIT should have fought Briggs one month ago, several actually. Back when Finkel used his name to get MSG.

Asking me to speak up about who WLAD should fight is lame. I am vocal enough in this area. He should unify, and rematch Peter asap.

So Wlad should pick a guy he already beat, who has a title shot lined up and not one but two immediate mandatories. :huh

I don't see you complaining about Sultan replacing Chagaev with Holyfield. That deal was done so fast that no one else had a chance. If it wasn't a pay off and Sultan really wanted to unify he could've at least tried to get a fight done vs. Wlad. But he didn't did he? Wait, that's right, somehow that's Wlad's fault too...................

[RUSKULL]

I thought McCline was a fair "stay busy" opponent. The best heavyweights seem occupied for now (not that there are many options).

McCline is a better choice of opponent than either Rahman's or Briggs opponents during their respective comebacks. You can add McCall to that list as well.

[RUSKULL]

No picking McCline as a first opponent is cowardly especially after you tried to get a immediate shot at the title first.

No, posting about how a professional fighter is a coward from the comfort of your trailer :yep is cowardly.