View Full Version : Anthony Mundine v Jeff Harding
CarltonBlues
10-24-2008, 12:40 AM
Okay a realistic match up, who wins this scrap?
COULDHAVEBEEN
10-24-2008, 12:51 AM
A match-up made in heaven!
For mine Mundine would make Harding look silly for a few rounds, perhaps half a dozen. Then Harding would catch up with him and we'd really see what all Mundine's hot air amounted to.
Result: Harding by shear brutality!!
WhataRock
10-24-2008, 12:54 AM
We know Choc is a very good supermiddle but we dont know how he goes at middle or light heavy because he has not fought there yet.
He did show against Kessler and Siaca he wasnt a big supermiddle but against Echols, Soliman and others he did not look like he was a natural middleweight.
So against Harding, which I imagine would be at 175, he would be at a disadvantage with his size I reckon.
Choc is the technically better fighter and his speed advantage is considerable but Harding showed he was a truly world class fighter with more guts and heart in his pinky then Mundine Jr has all together.
Close call in many ways but I just think Harding proved himself against the far superior opponants and would probably send Choc into a Siaca-fight shell for most of the night.
Harding via a 116-112 margin with a possible late knockdown.
CarltonBlues
10-24-2008, 12:56 AM
A match-up made in heaven!
For mine Mundine would make Harding look silly for a few rounds, perhaps half a dozen. Then Harding would catch up with him and we'd really see what all Mundine's hot air amounted to.
Result: Harding by shear brutality!!
Yeah I see it going the same way, Harding was relentless.
the beaver
10-24-2008, 12:58 AM
Okay a realistic match up, who wins this scrap?
Ok, Mundine at his best probably does a Danny Green on him unfortunately............... However, Harding is an Aussie lcon and it pains me to say Mundine beats him.
The Mundine re: Crazy Kim fight, gets stopped by the hitman.
BoxingTrashTalk
10-24-2008, 12:58 AM
Slight favourite would be Harding. But i think its just to close to call. Does Brutality and power win out? Or does skill, speed and a shell defence?
50/50
IrnBruMan
10-24-2008, 01:01 AM
But what if they fought now?
But what if they fought now?Mundine wouldnt fight him now, he take one look at Jeff stumbling around the streets drunk and take him in providing him with love and care
the beaver
10-24-2008, 01:06 AM
But what if they fought now?
:lol: :lol: Mundine better not be holding a can of Tooheys :lol: :lol:
IrnBruMan
10-24-2008, 01:08 AM
Mundine wouldnt fight him now, he take one look at Jeff stumbling around the streets drunk and take him in providing him with love and care
Why didn't he show the same love for Lester Ellis?
IrnBruMan
10-24-2008, 01:08 AM
:lol: :lol: Mundine better not be holding a can of Tooheys :lol: :lol:
:lol: That'd be lights out for choc :yep
Kegsy
10-24-2008, 01:30 AM
I reckon Harding would win a close but clear decision.
I did however select Mundine by accident in the poll.:patsch
BoxingTrashTalk
10-24-2008, 01:35 AM
I reckon Harding would win a close but clear decision.
I did however select Mundine by accident in the poll.:patsch
:hat
Kegsy
10-24-2008, 01:43 AM
:hat :drink:secret
Francis75
10-24-2008, 07:49 AM
Harding smashes him over the head with a beer bottle , but Anthony wins a decision.
JOSEY WALES
10-24-2008, 08:05 AM
Harding would out tough Mandy , can you imagine Mundine winning a legit title , defend it a few times ,lose it against Andries ,win it back, defend it a futher half a dozen times and lose it again to the Body snatcher ? Thought not :good
JOSEY WALES
10-26-2008, 06:19 AM
Harding would out tough Mandy , can you imagine Mundine winning a legit title , defend it a few times ,lose it against Andries ,win it back, defend it a futher half a dozen times and lose it again to the Body snatcher ? Thought not :good Ok then i will put it another way , can any ONE of the (11 not 12 ) that voted for Mundine reason that Mandy could do this ?
BIG FELLA
10-26-2008, 06:31 AM
Anyone that picks Mundine has no idea about boxing. Hitman was far to tough for Mundine who lost to guys like Siaca who were pressure fighters.
Harding would be all over Mundine and the Man would be running away the entire fight.
Andries although old was still a lot better than Mundine and it took one hell of an effort to beat him twice.
cookie the carr
10-26-2008, 06:53 AM
Jeff would have been to much for Mundine up in his face i reckon KO in Round 7.
ozziebattler
10-26-2008, 07:50 AM
I doubt this fight would even get pass the pre fight press conference.
Mundine would open his mouth and the hitman wouldnt take his crap to kindly,leading the Hitman to go through all mundine's cronies like a wild dog on his way to giving mundine a beatdown for the ages.
P.s.. we got the sheepshagers covered.lol.
Ok then i will put it another way , can any ONE of the (11 not 12 ) that voted for Mundine reason that Mandy could do this ?You mean like saying Harding would just out tough Mandy? something along those lines
Why didn't he show the same love for Lester Ellis?
He did. He got Khoder to run into the toilet stalls and provide him with the cash for his next 1250 cases of beer.:lol:
BTW, Mundine to be stopped in 10-11 rounds while being well ahead on points.
ozziebattler
10-26-2008, 10:17 AM
ozzie ozzie ozzie bitches.
pecks
10-26-2008, 10:21 AM
I'd actually give Mundine a good chance at outpointing. His style is made for him, but to be fair, I need to see more of Harding.
Phil Austin
10-26-2008, 10:23 AM
Harding would have walked right through him. In his prime which was albeit quite short he would not have been denied by Choc
Green walked through Mundines shit aswell, didnt help him
tooshort
10-26-2008, 10:33 AM
As tough as jeff was he would be out skilled. There is always a chance he could have won through sheer determination and brut even more so that he was the bigger man but mundine has a great game. One of the better talents on the international scene wasting away.
pecks
10-26-2008, 10:34 AM
Green walked through Mundines shit aswell, didnt help himTrue.
Mundine, for all his flaws, has a pretty good defence, and if guys like Kessler who are far more precise and lethal with their punches (not more powerful, but more likely to find the target) than Harding, are unable to get through Mundine enough to hurt him, then I find it hard to see how Harding does so.
It's not as simple as saying Harding's heavy punches will put choc away. It's landing them that'd be the problem.
True.
Mundine, for all his flaws, has a pretty good defence, and if guys like Kessler who are far more precise and lethal with their punches (not more powerful, but more likely to find the target) than Harding, are unable to get through Mundine enough to hurt him, then I find it hard to see how Harding does so.
It's not as simple as saying Harding's heavy punches will put choc away. It's landing them that'd be the problem.Its never as simple as saying he out toughs or his heavy punches etc etc.
I give credit where credit is due. This fight would be a good one and if both are in good form anything can happen.
Phil Austin
10-26-2008, 10:46 AM
Actually Teke in the strictest definition of the word Green did not walk through Mundine at all - he walked up to him and walked into it but did not walk through, not even close! Harding walked have walked through the shots that could not hurt him and would have landed heavy shots to wear Choc down
Harding walks through Mundines shots to try to land his heavy shots but the more nimble man is not there to be hit...you wanna agree with that :p
Phil Austin
10-26-2008, 10:57 AM
he won't be there to start with but as I said he will be worn down and eventually be there for them - still in an agreeable mood? :p
he won't be there to start with but as I said he will be worn down and eventually be there for them - still in an agreeable mood? :pAnything can happen.
Andrade was getting beaten to a pulp by Bute but was still there at the end :p
JOSEY WALES
10-26-2008, 02:19 PM
Harding walks through Mundines shots to try to land his heavy shots but the more nimble man is not there to be hit...you wanna agree with that :p :yikes Of course Harding would have "Out Toughed " Mundine and landed , if a less than stella middle weight like Nelly Kim and a feather punching 168'er like Ottke can have him on Queer st & Ko'd then when a mobile L/heavy like Harding would have caught up with him sooner or later and launched the cunt :deal shear stupidity to suggest otherwise :deal , now i appreciate a wind up Teke old son but if you promise to behave and keep your addiction under control i can send you some "Rocks" in the post . :lol:
ajay11
10-26-2008, 03:55 PM
Harding did have the style to trouble Choc and considering that he was the bigger man he may just catch Choc.
Because Mundine would have to be a his best the entire 12 rounds I would be concerned that somewhere along the fight Harding's reach and aggression would come into play.
With Mundine having to use angles to score he'd be constantly on his toes moving around looking for a way in. Unlike v Green we'd see Harding pour on the pressure and Choc wouldn't want to walk into the ring cold.
Then again Choc could land a sweet counter and finish it early. We never saw JH in enough bouts v quality opposition to know how he'd deal with someone like Mundine.
ajay11
10-26-2008, 03:58 PM
:yikes Of course Harding would have "Out Toughed " Mundine and landed , if a less than stella middle weight like Nelly Kim and a feather punching 168'er like Ottke can have him on Queer st & Ko'd then when a mobile L/heavy like Harding would have caught up with him sooner or later and launched the cunt :deal shear stupidity to suggest otherwise :deal , now i appreciate a wind up Teke old son but if you promise to behave and keep your addiction under control i can send you some "Rocks" in the post . :lol:
On the other hand he did keep his feet v Kessler who landed some clean shots...and Kessler had enough power to destroy Bayer and make Siaca quit.
BoxingTrashTalk
10-26-2008, 11:07 PM
:yikes Of course Harding would have "Out Toughed " Mundine and landed , if a less than stella middle weight like Nelly Kim and a feather punching 168'er like Ottke can have him on Queer st & Ko'd then when a mobile L/heavy like Harding would have caught up with him sooner or later and launched the cunt :deal shear stupidity to suggest otherwise :deal , now i appreciate a wind up Teke old son but if you promise to behave and keep your addiction under control i can send you some "Rocks" in the post . :lol:
Come on Josey your better than that. Ottke was like 8 years ago. With Kim, yeh fair enough.
Thats like saying Margarito will loose his next fight, because his chin is shit, because he got KO'd 8 years ago.
But one thing should be noted for this fight is. Mundine can't be hurt to the body! His preperation is always top notch! Which means Harding has to land some head shots, which are not as likely as everyone thinks.
COULDHAVEBEEN
10-26-2008, 11:23 PM
Can't believe this poll is running 50/50!
An even money odds bet on a 1990 model Harding vs Mundine 2008 has great appeal!
sallywinder
10-26-2008, 11:30 PM
harding would have walked through mundine in the middle rounds. hardings 'peek-a-boo' style would have seen mundine throw lots of ineffective punches at hardings arms, as mundine is too brain dead to go to the body...
harding starts bouncing hard, short, punches off mundines dumb skull from about rnd6 onwards.
mundine shits himself and runs round the ring, with turds falling from his jocks in the 10th. a big chunk of shit bogs mundine and harding catches him with a short right hand to the chin..
mundine wakes up in about a year, crying for his mum....
ozziebattler
10-27-2008, 12:54 AM
harding would have walked through mundine in the middle rounds. hardings 'peek-a-boo' style would have seen mundine throw lots of ineffective punches at hardings arms, as mundine is too brain dead to go to the body...
harding starts bouncing hard, short, punches off mundines dumb skull from about rnd6 onwards.
mundine shits himself and runs round the ring, with turds falling from his jocks in the 10th. a big chunk of shit bogs mundine and harding catches him with a short right hand to the chin..
mundine wakes up in about a year, crying for his mum....
Imagine that.Mundine waking up a year later and seeing this white lady looking at him...Who the fuck are you?
Im your mum Anthony..
No your not im the Aboriginal superman..
Sorry son your halfcast at best mate...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LET ME DIE.
Anyway on a serious note this bout wouldnt get pass the press conference.Harding would ass rape Mundine.
Or bottle him..
oztriker
10-27-2008, 01:02 AM
Imagine that.Mundine waking up a year later and seeing this white lady looking at him...Who the fuck are you?
Im your mum Anthony..
No your not im the Aboriginal superman..
Sorry son your halfcast at best mate...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LET ME DIE.
Anyway on a serious note this bout wouldnt get pass the press conference.Harding would ass rape Mundine.
Or bottle him..
Would he have also said..... "But why did you choose Tony Mundine to be my Dad?.....There are plenty of good looking....:patsch
OOPS!.... I better stop there before I get in trouble:D
JOSEY WALES
10-27-2008, 05:00 AM
Harding did have the style to trouble Choc and considering that he was the bigger man he may just catch Choc.
Because Mundine would have to be a his best the entire 12 rounds I would be concerned that somewhere along the fight Harding's reach and aggression would come into play.
With Mundine having to use angles to score he'd be constantly on his toes moving around looking for a way in. Unlike v Green we'd see Harding pour on the pressure and Choc wouldn't want to walk into the ring cold.
Then again Choc could land a sweet counter and finish it early. We never saw JH in enough bouts v quality opposition to know how he'd deal with someone like Mundine. Well fek me Ajay almost agreeing with me , Thats a raretiy in itself :lol: ..BTW Ajay who did you vote for in the poll :D
JOSEY WALES
10-27-2008, 05:11 AM
Come on Josey your better than that. Ottke was like 8 years ago. With Kim, yeh fair enough.
Thats like saying Margarito will loose his next fight, because his chin is shit, because he got KO'd 8 years ago.
But one thing should be noted for this fight is. Mundine can't be hurt to the body! His preperation is always top notch! Which means Harding has to land some head shots, which are not as likely as everyone thinks.
No thats not what im saying re Margarito Over the years Margarito has improved , the steady rise in his opposition over 8 years has determined that his skill level has HAD to get better or he would't have been able to continue his career and hang & beat the likes of Cotto ,
Mundine got turned off at the mains by Ottke and despite a few outings and defeats by world Class fighters has infact gone downhill due to the fact that the level of his opponents is less tha stella , what im saying is how anyone can even remotley consider Mandy the victor here is pretty :nut to me when you also consider the level Jeff Harding was at when he made at least half a dozen defences during his second reign , the only way imo that Mundine wins is if he like Ajay suggests lands a Hail Mary punch early doors ..:good
JOSEY WALES
10-27-2008, 05:18 AM
Would he have also said..... "But why did you choose Tony Mundine to be my Dad?.....There are plenty of good looking....:patsch
OOPS!.... I better stop there before I get in trouble:D Junior's head looks a lot like a sunburned Nic Valuve's .seperated at birth i reckon these two , both full of shit and like watching paint dry in the ring .:huh
bushboy
10-27-2008, 07:00 AM
Imagine that.Mundine waking up a year later and seeing this white lady looking at him...Who the fuck are you?
Im your mum Anthony..
No your not im the Aboriginal superman..
Sorry son your halfcast at best mate...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LET ME DIE.
Anyway on a serious note this bout wouldnt get pass the press conference.Harding would ass rape Mundine.
Or bottle him..
bottle him lol
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