View Full Version : Great question:Who's The Best Sh** Talker Toney Or Hopkins And Who Do U Like Better
I love hopkins,but there's something about james toney that tells me he's the best at sh** talking,because he told everybody he was gonna beat the breaks off holyfield and he tko'ed him not even lennox or tyson could say that.
Remember he was a middleweight and he's at heavyweight taking guy's like peter's punches,not even klitschko could take peter's punches like toney did.
I also believe that toney would have beat hopkins prime for prime and i would have loved to see that fight.
Marnoff
08-03-2007, 09:18 PM
Sweet Pea said it, prime Hopkins is underrated big time. I see Hopkins taking Toney in a prime for prime showdown. They both have great chins and great technique, so it goes to the scorecards, but it would be a classic battle with Hopkins coming out on top.
Pimp C
08-03-2007, 09:22 PM
I agree a prime Hopkins would beat a prime Toney 8/10 times.
Marnoff
08-03-2007, 09:32 PM
I agree a prime Hopkins would beat a prime Toney 8/10 times.
Yep, big time.
boxingcar
08-03-2007, 09:50 PM
Toney is the best shit talker...you can't take that away from him.
BlueApollo
08-03-2007, 10:41 PM
Toney is the best shit talker...you can't take that away from him.
Yeah, I agree. But it has gotten harder to decipher his rumbling ass in recent years.
God, a Hopkins - Toney prime matchup... I'd lean toward 'Nard because he could control James from range with his height. And if it did come down to a war of attrition, I'd give Hopkins the edge in heart and conditioning. But man, its a damn shame we only get to "see" this fight on a message board...
:patsch
digiram
08-03-2007, 11:15 PM
Ooooh....I don't know about this one. Prime Hop vs. Prime Toney....tough one. Coin Flip pretty much.
Carlos Primera
08-03-2007, 11:26 PM
toney>hopkins in trash talking, mayorga gives him a run for his money though.
brixtonbeat
08-03-2007, 11:27 PM
I go with a prime hop prime vs. prime.
Hop did better with Roy than Toney did. imo
EL MATADOR13
08-03-2007, 11:43 PM
i think TOney is the best shit talker and then mayOrga I rarely see hopkins talkin that bad of shit like the other 2
paulfv
08-04-2007, 01:47 AM
Toney is the king of sh*t-talking, and I like him and Hopkins about the same -- dig them both
Hopkins likes to talk and can talk a lot about stuff. As a shit talker though he doesn't really compare with Toney. Head to head, prime against prime, I'd favour Hopkins but I can see it being a close fight. Hopkins has so much more variety in his fighting style though and I can see him adapting a style which involves a lot of lateral movement to take Toney out of his element.
Piffer
08-04-2007, 10:09 AM
Toney was and is a more precise puncher than Hopkins. His arsenal is way more diverse as well. Hopkins relied on jabs, short left hooks, and counter rights. Toney could show all that and then some. Defensively he's better than Hopkins too, being more fluid at the lower weights as well as having legendary punch resistance.
Decebal
08-04-2007, 10:10 AM
Would you like me to post the Glen Johnson fight or some of his earlier fights to show you just how skilled Hopkins was?
Yes, please!:D
El Bombasto
08-04-2007, 11:00 AM
Toney is by far the better shit talker. Hopkins tries too hard to come across as 'smart' and often just sounds pathetic.
Shotgun
08-04-2007, 11:08 AM
Toney is a better shit talker and a better boxer. Hopkins is more dedicated to his craft and to staying in great shape, but as far as skills and talent goes Toney is on a higher level
Betty Swollocks
08-04-2007, 11:12 AM
Toney is a much better trash talker.
he also beats Hopkins in a fight prime for prime, and he does it without constant fouling like Hopkins does and has been doing for years.
MrSmall
08-04-2007, 11:12 AM
Toney fo soh.
J_Roth
08-04-2007, 11:36 AM
I'm a fan of B-Hop no doubt. I would even favor him in his prime vs Toney. People act like Toney couldn't be beat.
samita
08-04-2007, 01:52 PM
currently there are no better shit talkers than toney and mayorga. hopkins doesn't even come close to those two.
brooklyn1550
08-04-2007, 03:53 PM
Toney is a better shit talker, but Hopkins is a greater fighter and at 160 when both were at their best, would beat Toney. Hopkins is more versatile than Toney in my opinion and is one of the most adjustable fighters I have ever seen.
Toney is a better shit talker, but Hopkins is a greater fighter and at 160 when both were at their best, would beat Toney. Hopkins is more versatile than Toney in my opinion and is one of the most adjustable fighters I have ever seen.
Toney vs jirov show's u how versatile toney is,because at that time jirov was the best cruiserweight and toney made him look silly and to make it bad toney made him look silly against the ropes.
And toney punished holyfield who has a title shot coming up and is still a top heavyweight,now do u think hopkins could do that.
Toney is 1 of the greatest fighter's next to ali who could sit on the ropes and make u miss and make u pay.
brooklyn1550
08-04-2007, 04:04 PM
Toney vs jirov show's u how versatile toney is,because at that time jirov was the best cruiserweight and toney made him look silly and to make it bad toney made him look silly against the ropes.
And toney punished holyfield who has a title shot coming up and is still a top heavyweight,now do u think hopkins could do that.
No I don't, but that really isn't important...could Marvin Hagler? Probably not, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't as good as James Toney. All that means is that James Toney carries the weight better at HW than Hopkins most likely would.
Hopkins is a great counterpuncher, as is Toney. Both are great defensive fighters and can fight on the inside and from outside. Hopkins has better footwork than Toney.
JAM Killer
08-04-2007, 08:15 PM
Hopkins is the best shit talker, because for one I can understand him, and two he wins and backs it up. Toney on the other hand, is not on the same level as his mouth.
Alo2006
08-04-2007, 08:34 PM
Toney is the best shit talker...you can't take that away from him.
Yeah he is, but prime for prime, I pick B-Hop
magnificentdave
08-04-2007, 10:08 PM
Toney is the better shit talker, I like hops' style better, both great boxers, i think Toney relied on his power too much at middleweight, he could be outquicked if you could take his best shots and keep coming- he could catch anybody at middleweight with his technique and timing, but he didn't always win rounds with his style
Thread Stealer
08-06-2007, 01:14 AM
"Tell Felix Trinidad and his father to stop pussyfooting with the dick. If they want to get fucked all they need to do is knock on the door and they'll get their shot. Trinidad didn't just get beat he got knocked out…and I know his father doesn't like to hear these words, but if his son wants to become a champion at middleweight he needs to see me…I came at him the same way he came at Oscar by telling them to switch the names and we have a fight, and I kicked that ass without controversy. He wanted Oscar De La Hoya to do something he wasn't willing to do with me, so that should show you how stupid and scared they are…I love sticking it to them, because all that you need to ask him is, Did Bernard Hopkins kick your son’s ass? Shit, his son probably kicked his ass when they got home for putting him in there with that kind of animal. What Trinidad Sr. did to his son is considered child abuse in some states. Trinidad's father should have been institutionalized for putting his son in there with me. Every time he brings my name up he needs to look at that tape to know what kind of man and what kind of athlete Bernard Hopkins is. The only thing I haven't figured out yet is who regrets it more, Trinidad, Trinidad Sr. or Don King?"
Marnoff
08-06-2007, 01:33 AM
"Tell Felix Trinidad and his father to stop pussyfooting with the dick. If they want to get fucked all they need to do is knock on the door and they'll get their shot. Trinidad didn't just get beat he got knocked out…and I know his father doesn't like to hear these words, but if his son wants to become a champion at middleweight he needs to see me…I came at him the same way he came at Oscar by telling them to switch the names and we have a fight, and I kicked that ass without controversy. He wanted Oscar De La Hoya to do something he wasn't willing to do with me, so that should show you how stupid and scared they are…I love sticking it to them, because all that you need to ask him is, Did Bernard Hopkins kick your son’s ass? Shit, his son probably kicked his ass when they got home for putting him in there with that kind of animal. What Trinidad Sr. did to his son is considered child abuse in some states. Trinidad's father should have been institutionalized for putting his son in there with me. Every time he brings my name up he needs to look at that tape to know what kind of man and what kind of athlete Bernard Hopkins is. The only thing I haven't figured out yet is who regrets it more, Trinidad, Trinidad Sr. or Don King?"
Yep, that's some good stuff.
Mind Reader
08-06-2007, 03:03 AM
Both of them are damn good at what they do... but gotta go with Toney as the shit talker.
ozziebattler
08-06-2007, 03:31 AM
Roy jones owned both toney and hopkins.....CASE DISMISSED..
ozziebattler
08-06-2007, 03:33 AM
Hey mindreader you like silverchair???
I didnt think the were even heard of in U.S..
They have been huge here in oz for over 10years..class band...
Farmboxer
08-06-2007, 04:05 AM
I like Hopkins.
PH|LLA
08-06-2007, 04:13 AM
Hopkins wins the fight but Toney is a better thrash talker
platnumpapi
08-06-2007, 10:09 AM
Mike Tyson
And Mayorga, That Man Told Spinks He Was Going To Bury Him Next To His Dead Mother !!
Mike Tyson Said I Fuck You To You Love Me Faggot.
jlrivera81
08-06-2007, 10:31 AM
you have to put Mayorga in there as far as talking smack is concerned. he may not always back it up in the ring, but he is entertaining as hell.
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