Choc on Channel 9 footy coverage

[kel]

Just said after his next fight with Pinto, that he'll be heading to American next year with the goal of winning the middleweight title.

BTW, still the same dumb cunt not able to string a sentence together:patsch

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Just said after his next fight with Pinto, that he'll be heading to American next year with the goal of winning the middleweight title.

BTW, still the same dumb cunt not able to string a sentence together:patsch

Thats not very nice at all. Can't see the reason why you have to call him a dumb cunt.

[daz52]

How good were the war cries!

[BoxingTrashTalk]

How good were the war cries!

What war cries? Haka?

[wangman]

The aboriginals did a War cry the same time as the haka, it was pretty entertaining.

[nomas]

CHOCS DE MAN NO MATTER WHAT U HATERS SAY HE PUT AUSTRALIAN BOXING BACK ON THE MAP..:lol:

[smellmyfinger]

I'm sure he called the Kumuls, Camels, and not just once, but twice.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

I'm sure he called the Kumuls, Camels, and not just once, but twice.

LOL Only he can manage that.

Hes unique.

[oztriker]

Thats not very nice at all. Can't see the reason why you have to call him a dumb cunt.

Ummm....... Cos he is a Dumb Cunt....

No amount of money in the world can change that fact....

He is an ugly dumb Cunt:D

[oztriker]

LOL Only he can manage that.

Hes unique.

Unique?...... Is that another word for Dumb Cunt?:huh

[smellmyfinger]

LOL Only he can manage that.

Hes unique.

Been waiting to catch up with u BoxingTrashTalk. Pretty offended to be called a Mundine hater in anither thread by u, when ive been a supporter of his. I dont get offended easily, but u would know the shit we go through supporting the guy, and to be called a hater touches a nerve.

No big deal i know brotha, but wanted to point it out to u.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Ummm....... Cos he is a Dumb Cunt....

No amount of money in the world can change that fact....

He is an ugly dumb Cunt:D

Boxers read these boards man.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Been waiting to catch up with u BoxingTrashTalk. Pretty offended to be called a Mundine hater in anither thread by u, when ive been a supporter of his. I dont get offended easily, but u would know the shit we go through supporting the guy, and to be called a hater touches a nerve.

No big deal i know brotha, but wanted to point it out to u.

Okay sorry. I get a little moody myself sometimes.

[oztriker]

Boxers read these boards man.

You give Mundine way too much credit....:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[BoxingTrashTalk]

You give Mundine way too much credit....:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

But imagine reading the boards and someone randomly calls you a stupid ugly cunt.

:patsch

[teke]

Just said after his next fight with Pinto, that he'll be heading to American next year with the goal of winning the middleweight title.

BTW, still the same dumb cunt not able to string a sentence together:patschI understod him fine, maybe you had trouble?

[BoxingTrashTalk]

I understod him fine, maybe you had trouble?

What did he say Teke? Im sure you can give me a non-bias interpretation.

[teke]

What did he say Teke? Im sure you can give me a non-bias interpretation.Didnt say much, just was on the sideline with Matty Johns chatting about the game and in the last bit he said he has a fight coming up Nov 12 and then hopefully a world title shot next year.

[lefty]

But imagine reading the boards and someone randomly calls you a stupid ugly cunt.

:patsch

So what. I think you're a stupid ugly cunt .

[BoxingTrashTalk]

So what. I think you're a stupid ugly cunt .

Thats not a nice thing to say. Im like Chris Eubank. I can't take it.

[lefty]

Thats not a nice thing to say. Im like Chris Eubank. I can't take it.

Good. Kill yourself.

[Sox]

But imagine reading the boards and someone randomly calls you a stupid ugly cunt.

:patsch
I think if anyone got offended by what's said on internet forums, they need rootin', I mean for fucks sakes who gives a shit what we're called at any time. :-(

Don't take things so seriously. :rasta

In any case, Mundine deserves everything he gets, not because he's a dumb cunt, but more so because he's full of shit and full of himself.

Who knows, maybe he's ok in person, but the way he presents himself to the media, he comes across as a total wanker.

[smellmyfinger]

Okay sorry. I get a little moody myself sometimes.


:good

[pecks]

tVzGM99ZIMQ

[Sox]

:rofl :rofl :rofl
Brilliant Pecks...... :happy

[THN]

I think if anyone got offended by what's said on internet forums, they need rootin', I mean for fucks sakes who gives a shit what we're called at any time. :-(

Don't take things so seriously. :rasta

In any case, Mundine deserves everything he gets, not because he's a dumb cunt, but more so because he's full of shit and full of himself.

Who knows, maybe he's ok in person, but the way he presents himself to the media he comes across as total wanker.
:lol::lol::lol::good

[shanemfr]

Is the dumb ass still bitter he never was good enough to play for Australia or win a real boxing title.

[Phil Austin]

Fucking love it Pecks! :p

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Is the dumb ass still bitter he never was good enough to play for Australia or win a real boxing title.

Never good enough?

Come on mate.

He was a match winner in every sense of the word. And with that, he could be a match loser. On his day, he was great.

[teke]

Is the dumb ass still bitter he never was good enough to play for Australia or win a real boxing title.Australia had players like Jamie Ainscough and Rod Wishart :lol:

[ozziebattler]

Australia had players like Jamie Ainscough and Rod Wishart :lol:

And have continued on with my old penny teammate.

Luke''good years''Rooney..

Best brakes in the business.

Unfortunetly for choc he was good but not Fittler,Daley like.

GREATS.

Oh and choc didnt like to tackle either.bit like his boxing career.He shys away from the hard stuff.

[ajay11]

And have continued on with my old penny teammate.

Luke''good years''Rooney..

Best brakes in the business.

Unfortunetly for choc he was good but not Fittler,Daley like.

GREATS.

Oh and choc didnt like to tackle either.bit like his boxing career.He shys away from the hard stuff.

Wipe your chin after you talk shit...and have a mint or somethin' (try bleach) :scaredas:

For starters Mundine was a different style of player to Fittler and Daley, the latter two more suited to the five eighth/lock style ball running No.6 that had the football brains to also be creative. Both were safe type of players that could be relied on to get the job done.

Mundine on the other hand was more "ad-lib" and possessed a brilliance that the other two did not. His ability to create something out of nothing with explosive acceleration and agilty, combined with great vision is one of the reasons he has successfully crossed over from league to boxing.

The problem was that he was not seen as a team player. Any coach of a rep team wants players who'll do as they're told and follow their game plan but Choc has always been his own man, unlike Daley who was seen as solid and safe. That's not to say that Daley or Fittler didn't have the capacity to to break a game wide open, they did, but there wasn't to many games where Daley didn't have great players inside and outside of him to help alleviate some of the pressure, unlike Choc. Having Daley at No.6 was always seen as the way to go with Alf or Sticky at No.7, Freddy often playing at No.8 (unless they were short on backs where Freddy played 6 and Daley No.3 or 4.)

As for Mundine having suspect defence that's bullshit. He went in low and took them down as often as any half or five eighth.

Simple fact is that Anthony Mundine was playing so well it was criminal that he never got an Australian jumper. Regardless of who was playing at the time they could have found him a spot as he could also play centre or even on the bench as an attacking player. If your team if down by a try with less than 10 minutes to go he was THE PLAYER you would want at your disposal.

That said, Mundines ommision wasn't as bad as Wayne Bennett overlooking every Wests Tigers player for the Australian team after they won the grand final...except for Scott Prince who was 2nd choice halfback.

Australia lost.

[ajay11]

Ummm....... Cos he is a Dumb Cunt....

No amount of money in the world can change that fact....

He is an ugly dumb Cunt:D

When you make your television debut in a grand final, boxing title fight, as a chanel nine commentator....let us know.

Even if SBS come calling for you to take a bit part giving a BJ to an alcoholic invalid out in the scrub, again, let us know. :verysad

[pecks]

Wipe your chin after you talk shit...and have a mint or somethin' (try bleach) :scaredas:

For starters Mundine was a different style of player to Fittler and Daley, the latter two more suited to the five eighth/lock style ball running No.6 that had the football brains to also be creative. Both were safe type of players that could be relied on to get the job done.

Mundine on the other hand was more "ad-lib" and possessed a brilliance that the other two did not. His ability to create something out of nothing with explosive acceleration and agilty, combined with great vision is one of the reasons he has successfully crossed over from league to boxing.

The problem was that he was not seen as a team player. Any coach of a rep team wants players who'll do as they're told and follow their game plan but Choc has always been his own man, unlike Daley who was seen as solid and safe. That's not to say that Daley or Fittler didn't have the capacity to to break a game wide open, they did, but there wasn't to many games where Daley didn't have great players inside and outside of him to help alleviate some of the pressure, unlike Choc. Having Daley at No.6 was always seen as the way to go with Alf or Sticky at No.7, Freddy often playing at No.8 (unless they were short on backs where Freddy played 6 and Daley No.3 or 4.)

As for Mundine having suspect defence that's bullshit. He went in low and took them down as often as any half or five eighth.

Simple fact is that Anthony Mundine was playing so well it was criminal that he never got an Australian jumper. Regardless of who was playing at the time they could have found him a spot as he could also play centre or even on the bench as an attacking player. If your team if down by a try with less than 10 minutes to go he was THE PLAYER you would want at your disposal.

That said, Mundines ommision wasn't as bad as Wayne Bennett overlooking every Wests Tigers player for the Australian team after they won the grand final...except for Scott Prince who was 2nd choice halfback.

Australia lost.It was a trend back then that you had to apply your trade to make the national team. They were usually reluctant to blood young guys in the team regardless of if they were good enough or not. Similar to how Gilchrist was killing it at state level cricket while Healy was fading out at international level.

Also, Mundine's arrogance and his speaking out on certain issues didn't do him any favours either.

I disagree a bit about Mundine being more explosive than Fittler. Fittler was a game breaker, and knew how to organize a team, which was something Mundine couldn't really do.
He was very dynamic too Fittler, he was just more humble in his manner as opposed to Mundine who was doing backflips, ect.

Bottom line is, Mundine probably would have got his cap had he stuck around longer, but as is the case with Mundine, he is fairly ambitious and is always looking for the short road to glory.

Mundine wanted to be capped for australia after just a few years, and also wanted to be a world champion after just 10 fights and 2 years in the business. With a bit more time and patience, he could have achieved both.

[stiflers mum]

Boxers read these boards man.
but im sure they couldnt care less what a bunch of anonymous strangers think of them.lighten up.hes made millions being the man you love to hate im sure that soothes the pain of being unpopular with some.

[ozziebattler]

Wipe your chin after you talk shit...and have a mint or somethin' (try bleach) :scaredas:





What exactly about my post was shit??

Fittler and Daley being greats of the game??

Mundine being a good footy player??But not GREAT??

Or Mundines dodgy defence??Yes he can tackle but so can Preston Campbell...though both miss or in Mundines case missed their fair share of tackles.(pull out some old tapes)

All the truth and even most Mundine nuthuggers would agree with that...:deal

[stiflers mum]

Wipe your chin after you talk shit...and have a mint or somethin' (try bleach) :scaredas:

For starters Mundine was a different style of player to Fittler and Daley, the latter two more suited to the five eighth/lock style ball running No.6 that had the football brains to also be creative. Both were safe type of players that could be relied on to get the job done.

Mundine on the other hand was more "ad-lib" and possessed a brilliance that the other two did not. His ability to create something out of nothing with explosive acceleration and agilty, combined with great vision is one of the reasons he has successfully crossed over from league to boxing.

The problem was that he was not seen as a team player. Any coach of a rep team wants players who'll do as they're told and follow their game plan but Choc has always been his own man, unlike Daley who was seen as solid and safe. That's not to say that Daley or Fittler didn't have the capacity to to break a game wide open, they did, but there wasn't to many games where Daley didn't have great players inside and outside of him to help alleviate some of the pressure, unlike Choc. Having Daley at No.6 was always seen as the way to go with Alf or Sticky at No.7, Freddy often playing at No.8 (unless they were short on backs where Freddy played 6 and Daley No.3 or 4.)

As for Mundine having suspect defence that's bullshit. He went in low and took them down as often as any half or five eighth.

Simple fact is that Anthony Mundine was playing so well it was criminal that he never got an Australian jumper. Regardless of who was playing at the time they could have found him a spot as he could also play centre or even on the bench as an attacking player. If your team if down by a try with less than 10 minutes to go he was THE PLAYER you would want at your disposal.

That said, Mundines ommision wasn't as bad as Wayne Bennett overlooking every Wests Tigers player for the Australian team after they won the grand final...except for Scott Prince who was 2nd choice halfback.

Australia lost.
i agree.matthew johns was once picked ahead of him.:patsch

[ozziebattler]

i agree.matthew johns was once picked ahead of him.:patsch

When the knights were top of the league and Johns was in career best form..

[WhataRock]

Fittler and Daley > Mundine...end of story. They proved this week in and week out at the elite level for many years, whereas Choc did not.

But Johns getting picked in front of him...wow. I mean it was pretty much bullshit, Choc didnt have the best game in the grandfinal but he carved up Cronulla in the prelim final and was in decent form.
He played origin that year, though he didnt get much of a start, he didnt play bad and Im pretty sure he picked up a try.

The whole racial thing didnt help him, as it is well known that there were Aboriginal selectors and Aboriginals playing in the side, it made him look stupid. He just didnt realise that doesnt matter what race you are, if you rub people to wrong way they aint going to like you.

[stiflers mum]

When the knights were top of the league and Johns was in career best form..
i am no mundine fan but he was at the time much better than M.Johns IMO.

[IrnBruMan]

But Joey was incumbent halfback and Matty was in good form, and I don't blame the selectors for wanting to keep the Johns brothers combination intact.

[ozziebattler]

Fittler and Daley > Mundine...end of story. They proved this week in and week out at the elite level for many years, whereas Choc did not.

But Johns getting picked in front of him...wow. I mean it was pretty much bullshit, Choc didnt have the best game in the grandfinal but he carved up Cronulla in the prelim final and was in decent form.
He played origin that year, though he didnt get much of a start, he didnt play bad and Im pretty sure he picked up a try.

The whole racial thing didnt help him, as it is well known that there were Aboriginal selectors and Aboriginals playing in the side, it made him look stupid. He just didnt realise that doesnt matter what race you are, if you rub people to wrong way they aint going to like you.

The whole racial thing was ridiculous forsure.

Laurie Daley has asmuch aboriginal in him as Mundine..Mundine is only half cast at best.His fucking mum is anglo..He must be colour blind or something when it comes to the lady that poped him out.

The bloke really liked shooting himself in the foot and done so bigtime with all that bullshit..

[ozziebattler]

i am no mundine fan but he was at the time much better than M.Johns IMO.

As a individual.Probably yes but the selectors looked at who would be the best halves combination and felt at the time(like most people would) that the Johns boys would be the best6-7 as the know eachother's game and can stick to a structured gameplan etc.

Dont think the selectors wanted his chip and chases for himself in there gameplan..

Mundine was a individual who generally played with blinkers on...As shown in the Storm-Dragons GF when he lost them the game by being his usually glory hound self and knocking the ball on over the line when he had unmarked players outside him.

I know people who want to kill him for that..lol..and im being serious. literally want to kill him.

I hate the Dragons so couldnt care less.

UP THE PANTHERS

[WhataRock]

I hate the Dragons so couldnt care less.



You are my favourite now Ozzieb..

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Wipe your chin after you talk shit...and have a mint or somethin' (try bleach) :scaredas:

For starters Mundine was a different style of player to Fittler and Daley, the latter two more suited to the five eighth/lock style ball running No.6 that had the football brains to also be creative. Both were safe type of players that could be relied on to get the job done.

Mundine on the other hand was more "ad-lib" and possessed a brilliance that the other two did not. His ability to create something out of nothing with explosive acceleration and agilty, combined with great vision is one of the reasons he has successfully crossed over from league to boxing.

The problem was that he was not seen as a team player. Any coach of a rep team wants players who'll do as they're told and follow their game plan but Choc has always been his own man, unlike Daley who was seen as solid and safe. That's not to say that Daley or Fittler didn't have the capacity to to break a game wide open, they did, but there wasn't to many games where Daley didn't have great players inside and outside of him to help alleviate some of the pressure, unlike Choc. Having Daley at No.6 was always seen as the way to go with Alf or Sticky at No.7, Freddy often playing at No.8 (unless they were short on backs where Freddy played 6 and Daley No.3 or 4.)

As for Mundine having suspect defence that's bullshit. He went in low and took them down as often as any half or five eighth.

Simple fact is that Anthony Mundine was playing so well it was criminal that he never got an Australian jumper. Regardless of who was playing at the time they could have found him a spot as he could also play centre or even on the bench as an attacking player. If your team if down by a try with less than 10 minutes to go he was THE PLAYER you would want at your disposal.

That said, Mundines ommision wasn't as bad as Wayne Bennett overlooking every Wests Tigers player for the Australian team after they won the grand final...except for Scott Prince who was 2nd choice halfback.

Australia lost.

I will second that.

But its not a big deal missing out on NSW and Australian honours.

Australia has a few genuine match winners. The rest are solid players, who are just consistent. And Mundine was better then those consistent type players.

Also with NSW they look for the same thing consistency. But its not a big deal missing out on NSW. Especially when players like Brett White and Steve Turner are picked. (kind of same thing back in the day).

I guess im saying NSW and Australia isn't exactly the best team on the park. For which they can choose. They choose a few match winners e.g Thurston, Slater, Cameron Smith. And then build the team around them through the likes of Gallen, Perry, Stewart etc etc. (Although Glen Stewart is heavily under rated).

Mundine at his peak was good enough to play for both NSW and Australia.

Who gives a shit if hes arrogant.

If anyone has played sport at a high level. You know, you have to be arrogant, in the sense of backing yourself, telling yourself that you are the best, to succeed.

E.G Im sure fighters like Carl Froch and Jean Pascal tell themselves they are the best when they go into the ring, but they don't convey that to the media like Mundine does.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

As a individual.Probably yes but the selectors looked at who would be the best halves combination and felt at the time(like most people would) that the Johns boys would be the best6-7 as the know eachother's game and can stick to a structured gameplan etc.

Dont think the selectors wanted his chip and chases for himself in there gameplan..

Mundine was a individual who generally played with blinkers on...As shown in the Storm-Dragons GF when he lost them the game by being his usually glory hound self and knocking the ball on over the line when he had unmarked players outside him.

I know people who want to kill him for that..lol..and im being serious. literally want to kill him.

I hate the Dragons so couldnt care less.

UP THE PANTHERS

Depends what way you look at it mate.

He probably lost them the grand final.

But he won them the game the week before, by scoring a hat trick against Cronulla. (If you doubt his ability as a player, watch that game).

[oztriker]

When you make your television debut in a grand final, boxing title fight, as a chanel nine commentator....let us know.

Even if SBS come calling for you to take a bit part giving a BJ to an alcoholic invalid out in the scrub, again, let us know. :verysad

So what arguement are you trying to present?....:huh

He is still as bloody ugly as a hat full of arseholes....

And he is still as dumb as dogshit....and nothing you said changes that fact...:lol: :lol: :lol:


As for informing you of any future TV appearances....

It's too late DAMMIT!..... If I had realised that it was so important to you , I would have let you know sooner..:yep

I did have a 2 day filmshoot for "Beyond Tomorrow".....which was syndicated worldwide on the "Discovery Channel".... and I also was asked to appear with the "American Chopper" boys...after they viewed it on US TV......Does that count?

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I realise none of this ranks near as high with you as giving a blowjob to an invalid alcoholic out in the scrub somewhere.....But HEY..... To each his own....Whatever takes your fancy...(or should I say..."Fantasy"):rofl :rofl :rofl

And as for Channel 9.....You know damn well that he was there for novelty value only.... Also he makes Vautin and Sterling look good..... and even Mario Fenech sound literate.....Just one of the advantages of being an UGLY DUMB CUNT:D

[BoxingTrashTalk]

So what arguement are you trying to present?....:huh

He is still as bloody ugly as a hat full of arseholes....

And he is still as dumb as dogshit....and nothing you said changes that fact...:lol: :lol: :lol:


As for informing you of any future TV appearances....

It's too late DAMMIT!..... If I had realised that it was so important to you , I would have let you know sooner..:yep

I did have a 2 day filmshoot for "Beyond Tomorrow".....which was syndicated worldwide on the "Discovery Channel".... and I also was asked to appear with the "American Chopper" boys...after they viewed it on US TV......Does that count?

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I realise none of this ranks near as high with you as giving a blowjob to an invalid alcoholic out in the scrub somewhere.....But HEY..... To each his own....Whatever takes your fancy...(or should I say..."Fantasy"):rofl :rofl :rofl

And as for Channel 9.....You know damn well that he was there for novelty value only.... Also he makes Vautin and Sterling look good..... and even Mario Fenech sound literate.....Just one of the advantages of being an UGLY DUMB CUNT:D

Don't knock head jobs off alcoholics. :D

But on a serious note.

Which one are you?

[oztriker]

:D Depends what way you look at it mate.

He probably lost them the grand final.

But he won them the game the week before, by scoring a hat trick against Cronulla. (If you doubt his ability as a player, watch that game).


His giant ego and the need to be a hero ...lost the game that counted...


Just like his Boxing career..... He looks real good against also rans.... and when it doesn't matter...:D

When the chips are down...he always goes missing...:yep

[the beaver]

Not saying i wld pick Johns over Mundine or vice versa, however when it comes to rep footy u pick the best player in each position and not best combinations in my opinion.

It's like in junior rep team when 8 or 9 guys get picked in a side because the coach of the club side is the rep coach and they won GF etc................. it's not an acceptable excuse.

Best players must be picked, it's a rep side FFS

[oztriker]

Don't knock head jobs off alcoholics. :D

But on a serious note.

Which one are you?

You should recognise me Gav...:D

[BoxingTrashTalk]

:D


His giant ego and the need to be a hero ...lost the game that counted...


Just like his Boxing career..... He looks real good against also rans.... and when it doesn't matter...:D

When the chips are down...he always goes missing...:yep

The fight with Danny Green was the biggest fight in Australia. Soliman 2 was a big fight. Against Kessler he performed well.

Its a bit much to say he doesn't perform. Because on an Australian basis, he does on the big stage.

However i see where your coming from, if you expected him to be in the US by now, with a few more titles, which most of us did.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Not saying i wld pick Johns over Mundine or vice versa, however when it comes to rep footy u pick the best player in each position and not best combinations in my opinion.

It's like in junior rep team when 8 or 9 guys get picked in a side because the coach of the club side is the rep coach and they won GF etc................. it's not an acceptable excuse.

Best players must be picked, it's a rep side FFS

What was Brett White doing playing for NSW? Or Steve Turner?

Or Josh Perry or Paul Gallen for Australia?

[IrnBruMan]

Depends what way you look at it mate.

He probably lost them the grand final.

But he won them the game the week before, by scoring a hat trick against Cronulla. (If you doubt his ability as a player, watch that game).

This is one word that is constantly used when referring to Mundine, and the people who use it use it too much, because they have nothing else to back up their claims of Mudnine's greatness e.g. actual events.

To succeed at the highest level in anything you have to have more than just ability.

Mundine has shown he is incapable of hanging with the top boys in both league and boxing, which is why he was never selected to play for Australia, and why he is where he is now in boxing.

[oztriker]

The fight with Danny Green was the biggest fight in Australia. Soliman 2 was a big fight. Against Kessler he performed well.

Its a bit much to say he doesn't perform. Because on an Australian basis, he does on the big stage.

However i see where your coming from, if you expected him to be in the US by now, with a few more titles, which most of us did.


I disagree..... Green was on the slide.... Soliman couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding ... so Mundine had nothing to fear......

And Kessler beat him convincingly... (and lets not get into the arguement about whether he took 2 or 3 rounds off Kessler).... I've already PWNED Teke on that one...:yep

[IrnBruMan]

What was Brett White doing playing for NSW? Or Steve Turner?

Or Josh Perry or Paul Gallen for Australia?

Turner's a good winger - he knows how to finish off a backline movement and score a try. He's also a handy goalkicker.

Josh Perry has just had a belter of a season and won a GF - why shouldn't he be there? As for White and Gallen, I can't say, they haven't impressed me too much this season, but then again there are a lot of factors that go into selection - they could be good influences on the other players.

[pecks]

So what arguement are you trying to present?....:huh

He is still as bloody ugly as a hat full of arseholes....

And he is still as dumb as dogshit....and nothing you said changes that fact...:lol: :lol: :lol:


As for informing you of any future TV appearances....

It's too late DAMMIT!..... If I had realised that it was so important to you , I would have let you know sooner..:yep

I did have a 2 day filmshoot for "Beyond Tomorrow".....which was syndicated worldwide on the "Discovery Channel".... and I also was asked to appear with the "American Chopper" boys...after they viewed it on US TV......Does that count?

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I realise none of this ranks near as high with you as giving a blowjob to an invalid alcoholic out in the scrub somewhere.....But HEY..... To each his own....Whatever takes your fancy...(or should I say..."Fantasy"):rofl :rofl :rofl

And as for Channel 9.....You know damn well that he was there for novelty value only.... Also he makes Vautin and Sterling look good..... and even Mario Fenech sound literate.....Just one of the advantages of being an UGLY DUMB CUNT:DNice toys there Oz, buit your real claim to fame was watching the Kessler/Calzaghe fight with the Pecktor. :cool:

[oztriker]

Nice toys there Oz, buit your real claim to fame was watching the Kessler/Calzaghe fight with the Pecktor. :cool:

DAMMIT!.... I forgot:patsch


I'm thinking that I just PWNED that greasy little Mundine cum swallowing Ajay....:yep

[BoxingTrashTalk]

This is one word that is constantly used when referring to Mundine, and the people who use it use it too much, because they have nothing else to back up their claims of Mudnine's greatness e.g. actual events.

To succeed at the highest level in anything you have to have more than just ability.

Mundine has shown he is incapable of hanging with the top boys in both league and boxing, which is why he was never selected to play for Australia, and why he is where he is now in boxing.

Incapable? What are you looking at mate? Sure he fights shitty opponents.

But he was hurting Ottke. Beat Siaca, even though he fought shit, on my scorecard. And gave Kessler his 2nd toughest fight, that Kessler has mentioned.

Yet Andrades world class? Even though he lost every round?

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Turner's a good winger - he knows how to finish off a backline movement and score a try. He's also a handy goalkicker.

Josh Perry has just had a belter of a season and won a GF - why shouldn't he be there? As for White and Gallen, I can't say, they haven't impressed me too much this season, but then again there are a lot of factors that go into selection - they could be good influences on the other players.

Did you watch the 2nd State of origin game? Did you see Steve Turner?

:lol: :patsch

[BoxingTrashTalk]

I disagree..... Green was on the slide.... Soliman couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding ... so Mundine had nothing to fear......

And Kessler beat him convincingly... (and lets not get into the arguement about whether he took 2 or 3 rounds off Kessler).... I've already PWNED Teke on that one...:yep

Well he won the first 2 rounds, the 4th, and then the 12th against Kessler.

Green wasn't on the slide mate. Even Green at his best would have got schooled.

Im not saying hes Jesus. But Choc Mundine is world class (doesn't fight best though), and he has been competitive every time he stepped it up).

A lot of hogwash going around.

[IrnBruMan]

Incapable? What are you looking at mate? Sure he fights shitty opponents.

But he was hurting Ottke. Beat Siaca, even though he fought shit, on my scorecard. And gave Kessler his 2nd toughest fight, that Kessler has mentioned.

Yet Andrades world class? Even though he lost every round?

Yes, incapable - every time he has stepped up he has lost. He may have the physical ability, but he is not the complete package.

Now you're relying on your opinion instead of facts to back yourself up -whether or not he was 'hurting Ottke' is irrelevant, because Ottke knocked him out. Result - Mundine loss.

Siaca knocked him down and beat him on points. Result - Mundine loss.

Kessler won at least 9 rounds when they fought, and Mundine was reluctant to engage, and apart form a brief flurry here and there, ran for most of the fight. Yet somehow the fact that he survived 12 rounds is basis for belief in him. Result - Mundine loss.

Who mentioned Andrade?

[IrnBruMan]

Did you watch the 2nd State of origin game? Did you see Steve Turner?

:lol: :patsch

Did you watch any of Mundine's footy career? Did you never see him have a bad game?

Oh yeah, what about the 99 GF? :lol: :patsch

[teke]

I disagree..... Green was on the slide.... Soliman couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding ... so Mundine had nothing to fear......

And Kessler beat him convincingly... (and lets not get into the arguement about whether he took 2 or 3 rounds off Kessler).... I've already PWNED Teke on that one...:yepYou've pwned yourself for constantly saying that Mundine actually won any rounds unanimously :yep

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Yes, incapable - every time he has stepped up he has lost. He may have the physical ability, but he is not the complete package.

Now you're relying on your opinion instead of facts to back yourself up -whether or not he was 'hurting Ottke' is irrelevant, because Ottke knocked him out. Result - Mundine loss.

Siaca knocked him down and beat him on points. Result - Mundine loss.

Kessler won at least 9 rounds when they fought, and Mundine was reluctant to engage, and apart form a brief flurry here and there, ran for most of the fight. Yet somehow the fact that he survived 12 rounds is basis for belief in him. Result - Mundine loss.

Who mentioned Andrade?

Your highly critical mate. You really are.

Kessler did not win 9 rounds. Mundine won the 1st, 2nd, 7th and 12th rounds.

He hurt Ottke in the 8th round. And Siaca yeh he fought shit.

But in no means, was this a one sided beatdown like Kessler vs Andrade.

Whom Andrade is widely referred to as world class.

On this forum. Hate takes a new meaning.

[pecks]

Your highly critical mate. You really are.

Kessler did not win 9 rounds. Mundine won the 1st, 2nd, 7th and 12th rounds.

He hurt Ottke in the 8th round. And Siaca yeh he fought shit.

But in no means, was this a one sided beatdown like Kessler vs Andrade.

Whom Andrade is widely referred to as world class.

On this forum. Hate takes a new meaning.I remember the fight well, I've seen it a few times, and I could only really give Mundine the 1st (mainly due to Kessler not doing much, the 3rd, and the 9th.
The 12th was close, but a Kessler round.
Hell, even Barry Michaels had it a Kessler round before then umming and arring and calling it a draw.

Normally if Michaels calls it even, it's a 10 - 8 round to the other guy.

[IrnBruMan]

Your highly critical mate. You really are.

Kessler did not win 9 rounds. Mundine won the 1st, 2nd, 7th and 12th rounds.

He hurt Ottke in the 8th round. And Siaca yeh he fought shit.

But in no means, was this a one sided beatdown like Kessler vs Andrade.

Whom Andrade is widely referred to as world class.

On this forum. Hate takes a new meaning.

No, I'm realistic.

Who said Mundine won those rounds vs Kessler? Do you understand the concept of unanimous scoring? The 3 refs scored the fight 116-112, 120-108 and 117-113.

Firstly, for Mundine to have won 4 rounds, at least 2 judges would have had to score the fight 116-112.

Secondly, those 2 judges who actually did score rounds for Mundine would have had to both score exactly the same rounds as each other for Mundine, otherwise he would not have won those rounds unanimously.

I never said it was a one-sided beatdown like Kessler vs Andrade, however, it was a pretty one-sided fight - look at the scores, watch the fight again. Apart from a few flurries every now and then in an attempt to steal rounds, and trashtalking to Kessler on a couple of occasions while he was on the ropes. Mundine did nothing else but run. Kessler landed many more punches on Mundine than Mundine did on Kessler.

I didn't see Ottke get hurt in the 8th round, I saw Ottke starting to slow Mundine down with his right hand thereabouts. Unless you're referring to the KD that was ruled a slip? That was a line ball as far as I'm concerned, because Ottke's momentum was what carried him into the ropes and he bounced off and fell. Granted Mundine landed a punch during this, but Ottke was up and unfazed, definitely not hurt.

[oztriker]

Well he won the first 2 rounds, the 4th, and then the 12th against Kessler.

Green wasn't on the slide mate. Even Green at his best would have got schooled.

Im not saying hes Jesus. But Choc Mundine is world class (doesn't fight best though), and he has been competitive every time he stepped it up).

A lot of hogwash going around.

Where do you come up with this 4 rounds bullshit?:patsch

The scorecards were available for a while after the fight.... and there were only 2 rounds where a majority (2 out of 3) Judges gave the round to Mundine...

Therefore... Mundine took 2 rounds only off Kessler on the official scorecards...

[ozziebattler]

Depends what way you look at it mate.

He probably lost them the grand final.

But he won them the game the week before, by scoring a hat trick against Cronulla. (If you doubt his ability as a player, watch that game).

His individualism definetly worked in that game.No doubting that.He was on fire.

But in the end it was the death of him in the GF..Look i hate the dragons so much but IF ONLY HE PASSED THE FUCKING BALL.Y MUNDINE Y??

He still would of looked like a legend setting up the try..But mundine always wants the whole cake to himself...

[WhataRock]

Your highly critical mate. You really are.

Kessler did not win 9 rounds. Mundine won the 1st, 2nd, 7th and 12th rounds.

He hurt Ottke in the 8th round. And Siaca yeh he fought shit.

But in no means, was this a one sided beatdown like Kessler vs Andrade.

Whom Andrade is widely referred to as world class.

On this forum. Hate takes a new meaning.

I didnt think Mundine took the 12th. Very clear Kessler round, Mundine came out more aggressive but by the end of the round was trying to stay out of trouble.

I recall Mundine getting comprehensively beaten in the mid-rounds, cant remeber him winning a round there.

The 3rd was probably his best round because he landed a couple of solid shots on Kessler but so did Mikkel on him. The 2nd Im pretty sure Kessler was starting to get into it and Choc didnt throw much so I dont think I scored him that round.

And believe me I was going for Choc, had money on Choc and truly believed he could win, I was looking for any chance to score a round for him but even 117-111 flatters him. I had it 118-110. And honestly I dont really have any problem with the 120-108 scoreline the dutchman had because even the rounds Choc wrestled away from Kessler were more or less a toss up. Whilst maybe not an indication of the effort Choc gave, thats how boxing is scored and you can have fights that are highly competitive shutouts or you can have fight were Fighter A beats the shit out of Fighter B but gives a few rounds away in the process and a closer appearing 116-112 is the outcome.

Whether he scraped a round here or there isnt really important in the wash, he was well beaten and was never really in ascendecy at any point in the fight.

[ozziebattler]

What was Brett White doing playing for NSW? Or Steve Turner?

Or Josh Perry or Paul Gallen for Australia?

Lokk who coached those sides..

Melbourne coach for nsw and Cronulla for Australia.

Though Gallen goes pretty good.Glad i dont have to watch Greg Bird's act as a five-eight.As a five-eight myself it pains me to watch him just tuck the ball under his arm starving the centres.

[oztriker]

I didnt think Mundine took the 12th. Very clear Kessler round, Mundine came out more aggressive but by the end of the round was trying to stay out of trouble.

I recall Mundine getting comprehensively beaten in the mid-rounds, cant remeber him winning a round there.

The 3rd was probably his best round because he landed a couple of solid shots on Kessler but so did Mikkel on him. The 2nd Im pretty sure Kessler was starting to get into it and Choc didnt throw much so I dont think I scored him that round.

And believe me I was going for Choc, had money on Choc and truly believed he could win, I was looking for any chance to score a round for him but even 117-111 flatters him. I had it 118-110. And honestly I dont really have any problem with the 120-108 scoreline the dutchman had because even the rounds Choc wrestled away from Kessler were more or less a toss up. Whilst maybe not an indication of the effort Choc gave, thats how boxing is scored and you can have fights that are highly competitive shutouts or you can have fight were Fighter A beats the shit out of Fighter B but gives a few rounds away in the process and a closer appearing 116-112 is the outcome.

Whether he scraped a round here or there isnt really important in the wash, he was well beaten and was never really in ascendecy at any point in the fight.

GOOD POST!.... By someone who knows more about boxing than most:good

[silvy_chris]

its not the specific episode from the footy show but its better then nothing..
its a video of when mundine was on the footy show back in may i think it was. there is also a couple of other videos too...just thought u guys would want to know

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[BoxingTrashTalk]

Where do you come up with this 4 rounds bullshit?:patsch

The scorecards were available for a while after the fight.... and there were only 2 rounds where a majority (2 out of 3) Judges gave the round to Mundine...

Therefore... Mundine took 2 rounds only off Kessler on the official scorecards...

Watched the fight about 5 times.

Mundine won 3-4 rounds. And the fight was highly competitive.

I suggest you watch Kessler - Andrade. And that is one heavy beat down.

:patsch

[BoxingTrashTalk]

No, I'm realistic.

Who said Mundine won those rounds vs Kessler? Do you understand the concept of unanimous scoring? The 3 refs scored the fight 116-112, 120-108 and 117-113.

Firstly, for Mundine to have won 4 rounds, at least 2 judges would have had to score the fight 116-112.

Secondly, those 2 judges who actually did score rounds for Mundine would have had to both score exactly the same rounds as each other for Mundine, otherwise he would not have won those rounds unanimously.

I never said it was a one-sided beatdown like Kessler vs Andrade, however, it was a pretty one-sided fight - look at the scores, watch the fight again. Apart from a few flurries every now and then in an attempt to steal rounds, and trashtalking to Kessler on a couple of occasions while he was on the ropes. Mundine did nothing else but run. Kessler landed many more punches on Mundine than Mundine did on Kessler.

I didn't see Ottke get hurt in the 8th round, I saw Ottke starting to slow Mundine down with his right hand thereabouts. Unless you're referring to the KD that was ruled a slip? That was a line ball as far as I'm concerned, because Ottke's momentum was what carried him into the ropes and he bounced off and fell. Granted Mundine landed a punch during this, but Ottke was up and unfazed, definitely not hurt.

I can't take you seriously. You think the guy who scored it 120-108 for Kessler is right?

Sums it up.

:patsch

And he was one big right away from stopping Ottke. :patsch

[oztriker]

Watched the fight about 5 times.

Mundine won 3-4 rounds. And the fight was highly competitive.

I suggest you watch Kessler - Andrade. And that is one heavy beat down.

:patsch

Don't you :patsch me.... He was given 2 rounds on the scorecards....What you think doesn't mater a shit...:roll:

[IrnBruMan]

I can't take you seriously. You think the guy who scored it 120-108 for Kessler is right?

Sums it up.

:patsch

And he was one big right away from stopping Ottke. :patsch

Where did I say I thought the judge who scored it 120-108 was right?

Can't you see the facts in front of you?

The other 2 judges scored it more realistically, and even then the most Mundine could have possibly won was 3 rounds, provided both judges scored the same 3 rounds for him as each other :patsch

Fucking hell man, see how you jumped on the 120-108 thing instead of understanding what I went to the trouble of fucking typing out for you?

Christ almighty :-(

One big right away from stopping Ottke? :rofl

What was Ottke then? :lol:

[oztriker]

I can't take you seriously. You think the guy who scored it 120-108 for Kessler is right?

Sums it up.

:patsch

And he was one big right away from stopping Ottke. :patsch

And Kim was one big right away from stopping Mundine.... :roll: Makes as much sense as your post...:patsch

[BoxingTrashTalk]

And Kim was one big right away from stopping Mundine.... :roll: Makes as much sense as your post...:patsch

How can you say Ottke vs Mundine was uncompetitive? Thats the general thought around here.

[IrnBruMan]

How can you say Ottke vs Mundine was uncompetitive? Thats the general thought around here.

Where does he say it was uncompetitive?

Do you see dead people as well?

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Where did I say I thought the judge who scored it 120-108 was right?

Can't you see the facts in front of you?

The other 2 judges scored it more realistically, and even then the most Mundine could have possibly won was 3 rounds, provided both judges scored the same 3 rounds for him as each other :patsch

Fucking hell man, see how you jumped on the 120-108 thing instead of understanding what I went to the trouble of fucking typing out for you?

Christ almighty :-(

One big right away from stopping Ottke? :rofl

What was Ottke then? :lol:

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[IrnBruMan]

WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE OFFICIAL SCORING OF THE BOUT?!?!?!

ARE YOU VASMAN? :lol:

[IrnBruMan]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I'm in stitches here :lol: :lol: :lol:

[oztriker]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I'm in stitches here :lol: :lol: :lol:

Me too....:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Round 4 : big left hand by Kessler. Big right hand Kessler. Mundine lands to jabs. Goes to the body. Left hook Mundine, hit the gloves of Kessler. Good chopping right hand by Mundine. Mundine jabbing. Left lands by Choc, Kessler jabbing. Choc lands a good left, Kessler walks back from it, then comes forward again. Kessler 3 punch combo.

The power punches probably win Kessler the round. 10-9. Although if he was with De La Hoya it would have been 10-10.

And if Mundine was with De La Hoya he would have only lost by a split decision.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Yeh watching it now. Kessler does win this probably 9-3. In saying that, a lot of Kesslers rounds apart from 6, 7,8, 10, were highly competitive.

And this fight was high quality. I doubt Bute could fight this well against Kessler.

And i do think this was a great, competitive fight.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE OFFICIAL SCORING OF THE BOUT?!?!?!

ARE YOU VASMAN? :lol:

Im Vasman on mondays. and Gav for the rest of the week.

[IrnBruMan]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Some people just can't be reached

[ashley]

Its no problem that Mundine got beaten against Kessler.....no shame in that.

Mundine lost but went better than these guys went against Kess;

Haussler
Bika
Sartison
Andrade
Lucas
Siaca
Thysse

To me this means that Mundine was number 3 at SMW......not bad for a NRL player.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Its no problem that Mundine got beaten against Kessler.....no shame in that.

Mundine lost but went better than these guys went against Kess;

Haussler
Bika
Sartison
Andrade
Lucas
Siaca
Thysse

To me this means that Mundine was number 3 at SMW......not bad for a NRL player.

Actually i thought Bika vs Kessler was a lot closer.

[Kegsy]

Actually i thought Bika vs Kessler was a lot closer.
Please elaborate on this Bika-Kessler matchup.:yep

[WhataRock]

Bika vs Kessler...when did this happen?

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Please elaborate on this Bika-Kessler matchup.:yep

:lol: :lol:

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Bika vs Kessler...when did this happen?:patsch

[WhataRock]

:patsch

Hey...you said it ya goober :lol:

[oztriker]

Please elaborate on this Bika-Kessler matchup.:yep


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I thought that maybe I'd missed something...:D

[ashley]

Sorry I ment Beyer :patsch

[oztriker]

Its no problem that Mundine got beaten against Kessler.....no shame in that.

Mundine lost but went better than these guys went against Kess;

Haussler
Bika
Sartison
Andrade
Lucas
Siaca
Thysse

To me this means that Mundine was number 3 at SMW......not bad for a NRL player.

Using your fucked up logic....

Siaca took Mundine's pissarse Title..... So Siaca should be rated No 3 SMW......Not bad for a no account journeyman:yep

[ashley]

Using your fucked up logic....

Siaca took Mundine's pissarse Title..... So Siaca should be rated No 3 SMW......Not bad for a no account journeyman:yep

Point I was making is that Mundine fought better against kessler than the other guys on that list.

Kesslers stock went up on the weekend as did Mundine for lasting 12 against him.

Siaca fucked off home half way through the fight.....I think :hey

If the WBA and Ring rated Mundine at #3 they must have been wrong hey OZ......using your fucked up logic.

[ajay11]

It's not a bad call to give Kessler a 120 -108 victory over Choc because 4 or 5 of the rounds were very close while Kessler won the others without dispute.

If you give Choc some of the close ones he could go down 116-112 but if you gave Kessler the close rounds then he wins every round BUT that would not be a fair indication of how well Choc done.

[ajay11]

This is one word that is constantly used when referring to Mundine, and the people who use it use it too much, because they have nothing else to back up their claims of Mudnine's greatness e.g. actual events.

To succeed at the highest level in anything you have to have more than just ability.

Mundine has shown he is incapable of hanging with the top boys in both league and boxing, which is why he was never selected to play for Australia, and why he is where he is now in boxing.

INCAPABLE OF HANGING WITH THE BOYS AT THE TOP ???

Are you aware what an idiotic comment that is ?

They guy was one of the highest paid players in rugby league due to his attacking brilliance. He helped St.George win so many games it wasn't funny...games which included the 1999 semi final v Freddy Fittler's Roosters that saw the loser eliminated !!!

So the guy leaves for boxing and the press have a field day, suggesting that he'll be exposed and back playing league within a year. After 10 professional fights he takes on an undefeated WORLD CHAMPION and gets smashed...FRONT PAGE SYDNEY TELEGRAPH, they loved it.

Does he give up? Does he go back to league where he is an elite player? NO, he shows heart and fights Antwon Echols for a world title.

Since then he has been ranked in the top 5 super middleweights IN THE FUCKING WORLD YOU STUPID CLOWN which I suggest puts him right up there HANGING WITH THE BOYS AT THE TOP.

What a fucking moron. :nutcase

[IrnBruMan]

INCAPABLE OF HANGING WITH THE BOYS AT THE TOP ???

Are you aware what an idiotic comment that is ?

They guy was one of the highest paid players in rugby league due to his attacking brilliance. He helped St.George win so many games it wasn't funny...games which included the 1999 semi final v Freddy Fittler's Roosters that saw the loser eliminated !!!

So the guy leaves for boxing and the press have a field day, suggesting that he'll be exposed and back playing league within a year. After 10 professional fights he takes on an undefeated WORLD CHAMPION and gets smashed...FRONT PAGE SYDNEY TELEGRAPH, they loved it.

Does he give up? Does he go back to league where he is an elite player? NO, he shows heart and fights Antwon Echols for a world title.

Since then he has been ranked in the top 5 super middleweights IN THE FUCKING WORLD YOU STUPID CLOWN which I suggest puts him right up there HANGING WITH THE BOYS AT THE TOP.

What a fucking moron. :nutcase

:lol: Right on cue to defend Mundine's honour is my leedle bitch agay :yep

So much vitriol in your post, you really are a biscuit-ersed bitch :lol:

Funny how you have to fall back on how much he was getting paid as some sort of evidence of his ability in league - yep, there's that word again, ability :yep

The amount he was getting paid per season didn't help him get an Aussie jumper, and he only got one NSW benchwarmers jumper out of it all. Superleague had a lot to do with the ridiculous amounts some players were getting back then :deal

Every time he's stepped up to fight the best he's lost.

If you think him being ranked in the top 5 while he fights tin cans and cab drivers somehow equates to him hanging with the top guys well, good luck to you - if it helps you sleep at night, go for it! :thumbsup

[ajay11]

I'll start this post by saying that Brad Fittler was one of my favourite players. While he did have a tendency to go quiet during some games there have not been many more dangerous players when it came to attacking an opponents tryline. He had a fine kicking game, tight defence and could inspire any player that had a soul. In a word he was the complete league player and stood out as a leader among men in one of the toughest team sports in the world.

Leading up to the Tri Nations at the end of the 1999 season Fittler had been leading the Roosters into the semi finals as did Mundine with St.George. Daley on the otherhand had a poor year and Mundine was spot on suggesting that he was "running on old legs." Daley did perform well in the Origin Series although most first graders would playing outside Andrew Johns who has always been the primary target of opposition defenders.

What can't be overlooked Simple Fact Is That Anthony Mundine was the form player of year 1999 and was selected in all three games for the NSW team as a utility player due to the fact that the current five eighth, Brad Fittler, was also the captain. After coming off the bench he scored a try in NSW's 9-8 loss yet Coach Wayne Pearce gave him hardly any game time in the 2nd or 3rd match due to the fact that it it was a tight game and he has always been a conservative coach.

With Andrew Johns at half Pearce went with Fittler at lock and Daley at five eighth after losing game 1 by a point so Johns would have options both sides of the ruck in the form of running pivots. No surprise as this was how his Balmain team played back in the day with himself at lock, especially when guys like Ellery Hanley played at No.6. Simple fact is that Wayne Pearce was tactically flawed as a coach, his attacking game plan based on territorial dominance and completed sets.

Now don't forget that Anthony Mundine represented the junior Kangaroos. Follow through to 1999 where he played five eighth for City Origin and all three games for NSW plus helped St.George to the Grand Final as the most electric player in the NRL (alongside team mate Nathan Blacklock)....how did he not get chosen for the Tri Nation series ? Had I been coaching the Australian team I would have loved to throw Joey and Choc side by side just to see what eventuated...DYNAMITE.

The team was not chosen on form or he would have been the first player picked.

The answer lay squarely at the feet of coach Chris Anderson. This was the guy that constantly put Brett Kimmorley in at halfback ahead of Andrew Johns, who played out of position at No.9. Anderson coached his teams to play a flat attacking style game which was based around Kimmorley rarely going wide, instead offloading to forwards hitting flat passes on the advantage line. To sustain the his teams throughout the heavy workload Anderson would have all his interchange bench consisting of forwards.

Secondly, Chris Anderson was brought up playing for a team that had a strict policy of only allowing Catholics into the fold. The Canterbury Bankstown club under Peter Bullfrog Moore discriminated against anyone and everyone and there's little doubt that he wanted no part of Mundine in the Australian team. Mundine's criticism wasn't some verbal shit spray lacking credibility. Everyone within league circles was well aware of the bias towards certain players from clubs aligned along the Super League War.

Secondly there was a belief that Mundine needed the stability of his captain and halfback Trent Barett to bring out the best in him. Barrett and Mundine were brilliant together with the former moving his forwards around the park while Choc set the outside backs alight when his general gave approval.

SO why apart from Anthony Mundine was there not one St.George Dragon in either of the Origin teams throughout the three game series? This statistic is unbelievable at first glance but a deeper look reveals the truth.

Justification. Selectors can justify Mundine's omission by claiming they're going with team combinations if they leave out every member of the 1999 grand final favourites.

Finally, any suggestion that Mundine lost St.George the GF by losing the ball over the line is nothing more than a low blow. The simple fact is that Mundine's brilliant play was what put him in that position to begin with and there's nothing to say that had he passed the ball that a try would have been scored. Mundine backed his ability and it was this self belief that sets him apart from all his detractors that will never go close to achieving what he has because they don't take a chance and go for glory.

Had Mundine not been the player that backed his own ability they would not have made the GF to begin with. In fact his bravado was contagous with other players within the team playing the most wonderful rugby league ever seen, their slaughter of Cronulla a week before as underdogs the standout.

Now I'm off to Melbourne to see a man about a horse....:hi:

[ajay11]

:lol: Right on cue to defend Mundine's honour is my leedle bitch agay :yep

So much vitriol in your post, you really are a biscuit-ersed bitch :lol:

Funny how you have to fall back on how much he was getting paid as some sort of evidence of his ability in league - yep, there's that word again, ability :yep

The amount he was getting paid per season didn't help him get an Aussie jumper, and he only got one NSW benchwarmers jumper out of it all. Superleague had a lot to do with the ridiculous amounts some players were getting back then :deal

So what's you greatest achievement in life apart from putting Mundine in his place? :lol:

The simple fact is that he is among the best fighters in the world and you can't get away from that. If Ring Magazine ranks him up there then that's good enough for me.

Every time he's stepped up to fight the best he's lost.

If you think him being ranked in the top 5 while he fights tin cans and cab drivers somehow equates to him hanging with the top guys well, good luck to you - if it helps you sleep at night, go for it! :thumbsup

So what's your greatest achievement in life apart from putting Choc back in his place.

Forget that Ring Magazine has him ranked up near the top in his division...

Forget that Choc has St.George and Brisbane first grade jerseys alongside his City Origin, NSW Origin and Junior Kangaroo jerseys hanging in his cupboard...

Nope, he is a bum and you are the man !!!! :nut

Seriously, when you lay awake at night do you get depressed with the knowledge that your life has been nothing but waste ? Tell me about it when I get back next week.

:smooch

[BoxingTrashTalk]

InBruMan he was highly competitive with Ottke, Siaca and Kessler. On my scorecard he beat Siaca, yes he fought poorly. But im confident as a boxing observor hes improved since then.

Im going to watch Felix Sturm this weekend and i will give you an honest assesment on monday.

[stiflers mum]

InBruMan he was highly competitive with Ottke, Siaca and Kessler. On my scorecard he beat Siaca, yes he fought poorly. But im confident as a boxing observor hes improved since then.

Im going to watch Felix Sturm this weekend and i will give you an honest assesment on monday. Mate he was competitive and is probably better then Siaca.His talent is undeniable but IMO he has been poorly advised and managed. 11th pro fight your fighting for a world title and your only training partner is your father :patschDefending your title and you are told your well in front so just jab out the last three rounds :patsch His bright spot where he showed IMO that he could become world class if not great was his 3 fights where he lost to Kessler but unlike previous opponents managed to win a few rounds and his victorys over Green and Soliman. This was where RJS and that were helping him out.It was then that he should of went to America but instead his greedy manager chose to fight shit competition so he could milk his 10%.I can understand him not dumping his dad as his trainer as people love their fathers but he should have said Dad I want you as my assistant trainer.Now that the Green rematch is not happening he should do that now but I fear he has left his run to late.

[IrnBruMan]

So what's your greatest achievement in life apart from putting Choc back in his place.

Forget that Ring Magazine has him ranked up near the top in his division...

Forget that Choc has St.George and Brisbane first grade jerseys alongside his City Origin, NSW Origin and Junior Kangaroo jerseys hanging in his cupboard...

Nope, he is a bum and you are the man !!!! :nut

Seriously, when you lay awake at night do you get depressed with the knowledge that your life has been nothing but waste ? Tell me about it when I get back next week.

:smooch

Just wondering what I have or haven't achieved in life has got to do with my comment that Mundine has ability but can't hang with the top guys in league and boxing :think

Let me guess, next you'll come at me with the old "Choc's got a bigger bank balance than you so he is good and you are a bum" logic :roll:

The difference between you and I is that I couldn't care less what you think of me, but you can't handle my opinion of Mundine :lol:

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Just wondering what I have or haven't achieved in life has got to do with my comment that Mundine has ability but can't hang with the top guys in league and boxing :think

Let me guess, next you'll come at me with the old "Choc's got a bigger bank balance than you so he is good and you are a bum" logic :roll:

The difference between you and I is that I couldn't care less what you think of me, but you can't handle my opinion of Mundine :lol:

InBruMan, do you honestly think that Mundine can't hang with Sturm? Or go 12 with Abraham? Considering Shannon Taylor went 12 with Abraham? Etc Etc.

There are a lot of winnable fights out there for him. Even at SMW, he could beat Jermain Taylor (would start as underdog).

We expect him to loose, but if he shows up hungry, who knows.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Mate he was competitive and is probably better then Siaca.His talent is undeniable but IMO he has been poorly advised and managed. 11th pro fight your fighting for a world title and your only training partner is your father :patschDefending your title and you are told your well in front so just jab out the last three rounds :patsch His bright spot where he showed IMO that he could become world class if not great was his 3 fights where he lost to Kessler but unlike previous opponents managed to win a few rounds and his victorys over Green and Soliman. This was where RJS and that were helping him out.It was then that he should of went to America but instead his greedy manager chose to fight shit competition so he could milk his 10%.I can understand him not dumping his dad as his trainer as people love their fathers but he should have said Dad I want you as my assistant trainer.Now that the Green rematch is not happening he should do that now but I fear he has left his run to late.

While he may be ageing.

I have seen some improvements in his combinations. And his attacking arsenal was his weakness.

Although it was only against Kim.

So i can't really justify comments.

[IrnBruMan]

InBruMan, do you honestly think that Mundine can't hang with Sturm? Or go 12 with Abraham? Considering Shannon Taylor went 12 with Abraham? Etc Etc.

There are a lot of winnable fights out there for him. Even at SMW, he could beat Jermain Taylor (would start as underdog).

We expect him to loose, but if he shows up hungry, who knows.

Exactly, who knows.

I have yet to see him fight at MW to be able to make any such call.

[the beaver]

I'll start this post by saying that Brad Fittler was one of my favourite players. While he did have a tendency to go quiet during some games there have not been many more dangerous players when it came to attacking an opponents tryline. He had a fine kicking game, tight defence and could inspire any player that had a soul. In a word he was the complete league player and stood out as a leader among men in one of the toughest team sports in the world.

Leading up to the Tri Nations at the end of the 1999 season Fittler had been leading the Roosters into the semi finals as did Mundine with St.George. Daley on the otherhand had a poor year and Mundine was spot on suggesting that he was "running on old legs." Daley did perform well in the Origin Series although most first graders would playing outside Andrew Johns who has always been the primary target of opposition defenders.

What can't be overlooked Simple Fact Is That Anthony Mundine was the form player of year 1999 and was selected in all three games for the NSW team as a utility player due to the fact that the current five eighth, Brad Fittler, was also the captain. After coming off the bench he scored a try in NSW's 9-8 loss yet Coach Wayne Pearce gave him hardly any game time in the 2nd or 3rd match due to the fact that it it was a tight game and he has always been a conservative coach.

With Andrew Johns at half Pearce went with Fittler at lock and Daley at five eighth after losing game 1 by a point so Johns would have options both sides of the ruck in the form of running pivots. No surprise as this was how his Balmain team played back in the day with himself at lock, especially when guys like Ellery Hanley played at No.6. Simple fact is that Wayne Pearce was tactically flawed as a coach, his attacking game plan based on territorial dominance and completed sets.

Now don't forget that Anthony Mundine represented the junior Kangaroos. Follow through to 1999 where he played five eighth for City Origin and all three games for NSW plus helped St.George to the Grand Final as the most electric player in the NRL (alongside team mate Nathan Blacklock)....how did he not get chosen for the Tri Nation series ? Had I been coaching the Australian team I would have loved to throw Joey and Choc side by side just to see what eventuated...DYNAMITE.

The team was not chosen on form or he would have been the first player picked.

The answer lay squarely at the feet of coach Chris Anderson. This was the guy that constantly put Brett Kimmorley in at halfback ahead of Andrew Johns, who played out of position at No.9. Anderson coached his teams to play a flat attacking style game which was based around Kimmorley rarely going wide, instead offloading to forwards hitting flat passes on the advantage line. To sustain the his teams throughout the heavy workload Anderson would have all his interchange bench consisting of forwards.

Secondly, Chris Anderson was brought up playing for a team that had a strict policy of only allowing Catholics into the fold. The Canterbury Bankstown club under Peter Bullfrog Moore discriminated against anyone and everyone and there's little doubt that he wanted no part of Mundine in the Australian team. Mundine's criticism wasn't some verbal shit spray lacking credibility. Everyone within league circles was well aware of the bias towards certain players from clubs aligned along the Super League War.

Secondly there was a belief that Mundine needed the stability of his captain and halfback Trent Barett to bring out the best in him. Barrett and Mundine were brilliant together with the former moving his forwards around the park while Choc set the outside backs alight when his general gave approval.

SO why apart from Anthony Mundine was there not one St.George Dragon in either of the Origin teams throughout the three game series? This statistic is unbelievable at first glance but a deeper look reveals the truth.

Justification. Selectors can justify Mundine's omission by claiming they're going with team combinations if they leave out every member of the 1999 grand final favourites.

Finally, any suggestion that Mundine lost St.George the GF by losing the ball over the line is nothing more than a low blow. The simple fact is that Mundine's brilliant play was what put him in that position to begin with and there's nothing to say that had he passed the ball that a try would have been scored. Mundine backed his ability and it was this self belief that sets him apart from all his detractors that will never go close to achieving what he has because they don't take a chance and go for glory.

Had Mundine not been the player that backed his own ability they would not have made the GF to begin with. In fact his bravado was contagous with other players within the team playing the most wonderful rugby league ever seen, their slaughter of Cronulla a week before as underdogs the standout.

Now I'm off to Melbourne to see a man about a horse....:hi:


This is a gee up right :huh

Is that you Anthony? :lol:

Mate that Catholic statement is bordering on ridiclous :patsch

[TheDuke]

This is a gee up right :huh

Is that you Anthony? :lol:

Mate that Catholic statement is bordering on ridiclous :patsch

I got fucking gipped bro. I went to mass every Sunday for years growing up and Anderson didn't offer me so much as a position as lemon slicer for the Bulldogs jersey flegg side.

Beaver, the Catholic statement didn't just border on the ridiculous. It jumped the border and brought it's whole fucking family along.

[IrnBruMan]

Fuck's sakes, I didn't read far enough into his longwinded post to see the Catholic bit! :lol:

So what were Rod Silva and the young Hasim El Masri then? Catholics? :rofl

[BoxingTrashTalk]

I hate to say it guys, but Choc could end up facing Winky in March.

Kessler is at 168. And Winky is going back down to 160 after the fight on Versus.

[ozziebattler]

I hate to say it guys, but Choc could end up facing Winky in March.

Kessler is at 168. And Winky is going back down to 160 after the fight on Versus.

Once again choc COULD:tired be fighting a big name.

[BoxingTrashTalk]

Once again choc COULD:tired be fighting a big name.

The question is whether hes going to take it or not?

I mean im sure Winky has no one to fight. With Arthur moving up to 168. And Mundine is the biggest name HBO could probably get, being so weak the division.

[ozziebattler]

The question is whether hes going to take it or not?

I mean im sure Winky has no one to fight. With Arthur moving up to 168. And Mundine is the biggest name HBO could probably get, being so weak the division.

The question is who gives a fuck??

Seriously Mundine aint fighting any big names like Wright.

Im a realist.

Try it some time.

[Marcus]

winky would be a better name to beat then sturm, even though he couldnt beat either of them lol

taxi !!!!!!!!!!!!

[ozziebattler]

winky would be a better name to beat then sturm, even though he couldnt beat either of them lol

taxi !!!!!!!!!!!!

Im seriously over talking about possible fights for Mundine.The guy has been in the fightgame awhile now and has had many chances 2 win me over..

Now lets talk about your mo.lol