Liakhovich vs Ruiz or Valuev on Peter vs Maskeav card!

[Vincent Gottschalk]

Thats what Liakhovich's manager wants at the Gerdan:happy :happy :happy :happy

[Zakman]

Hopefully it's Valuev and not that cheater Ruiz. :yep

[markclow]

You mean the Ruiz that beat your Holyfield?

[LONE WOLF]

Ruiz vs Lyakovich would be highly entertaining :lol:

[brooklyn1550]

Thats what Liakhovich's manager wants at the Gerdan:happy :happy :happy :happy

At the what?

[Zakman]

You mean the Ruiz that beat your Holyfield?

He "beat" Holyfield the way he "beat" all of the world class fighters he faced - holding excessively, and, worse, in this case, faking low blows to avoid being counted out!:yep

[Bazooka]

Thats what Liakhovich's manager wants at the Gerdan:happy :happy :happy :happy
isnt the trainer of Liakhovich one of Holyfields cornermen? I think he is, if so why would he want another fight with Ruiz?

[K0NPHL1C7]

He "beat" Holyfield the way he "beat" all of the world class fighters he faced - holding excessively, and, worse, in this case, faking low blows to avoid being counted out!:yep

I guess you missed the firstRuiz vs. Holyfield bout, in which Ruiz clearly out boxed Evander for a full 12 rounds, only to be robbed in one of the worst decisions in the history of the heavywieght division? I guess Don King couldn't use his magic wand to save hime that night? Or perhaps, just perhaps, you want Ruiz to loose so badly that when he wins legitly, you cry foul every time?

Either way, Ruiz would fair pretty well against S.L. He has looked very well in his last couple fights, and could give just about any HW trouble(Except maybe Wlad). He would out-box Peter to an easy UD.

[Zakman]

I guess you missed the firstRuiz vs. Holyfield bout, in which Ruiz clearly out boxed Evander for a full 12 rounds, only to be robbed in one of the worst decisions in the history of the heavywieght division?

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You're joking, right? Close, perhaps. Debatable, maybe.

Robbery? One of the worst decisions of all time?? You MUST be pulling my leg - only a complete nuthugger would say something like that!!:nut

[Bazooka]

The fight was close as I recall it, I could see a Ruiz win there but that third round might have been the deciding factor in the fight, and ever since that fight Ruiz learned how to hold, anyhow the first fight I had Holyfield winning by two rounds.
but you could make a case for Ruiz, the rematch yeah Ruiz won but that was after he was stopped by a Body shot, I dont know why the ref took the word of Ruiz there he didnt see the shot so by the rules he shouldnt have called it, there was a left to the liver that sent Ruiz down but that second hook to the body was borderline and that is what saved John
The third fight Evander clearly won

[ChampionsForever]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You're joking, right? Close, perhaps. Debatable, maybe.

Robbery? One of the worst decisions of all time?? You MUST be pulling my leg - only a complete nuthugger would say something like that!!:nut
I honestly beleive any version of Holyfeild would lose to Ruiz.

[Bazooka]

I honestly beleive any version of Holyfeild would lose to Ruiz.

:patsch

[Zakman]

I honestly beleive any version of Holyfeild would lose to Ruiz.

You're joking? Right? The only time Ruiz actually "beat" a declining Holyfield he had to fake low blows to pull it off, not to mention hold excessively. Surely you cannot be suggesting that that glorified clubfighter would beat a prime Holyfield?? :patsch :lol:

[Bazooka]

Surely you cannot be suggesting that that glorified clubfighter would beat a prime Holyfield?? :patsch :lol:

Thats what he suggested:roll:

[Heavyrighthand]

I can sense it................The Return of the Quiet Man is upon us.

[IntentionalButt]

Sergei brutalizes Ruiz and decisions Valuev. :smoke

Then it's a pickem showdown with Sultan for his old belt.

[Jason997]

Why would Liakhovich take either of these fights? Why not Brock or someone who would provide fewer oddball stylistic issues? Sounds like a bad set of choices for a "rebound" fight.

- Jason

[Farmboxer]

Valouev will knock Lyakhovich out.

Ruiz will win by decision or TKO.

[brooklyn1550]

I like Lyakhovich over Ruiz, Valuev, and Ibragimov...if he comes in like he did against Brewster which is probably a big if. From what I have heard, Lyakhovich wasn't all that impressive before, so the Brewster win may have been the fight of his life.

[spiderricco]

I can sense it................The Return of the Quiet Man is upon us.

We can only hope the Quietman gets a chance to regain his status as America's best heavyweight.:happy

[RUSKULL]

I like Lyakhovich over Ruiz, Valuev, and Ibragimov...if he comes in like he did against Brewster which is probably a big if. From what I have heard, Lyakhovich wasn't all that impressive before, so the Brewster win may have been the fight of his life.

Sergei also beat Guinn in a close but good fight. Back & forth action with Liakhovich just being busier and occasionally beating Dominick to the punch for the decision.

[Zakman]

We can only hope the Quietman gets a chance to regain his status as America's best heavyweight.:happy

If that glorified clubfighter is "America's best heavyweight" boxing in the US is in BIG trouble.:yep

[AJAX]

If that glorified clubfighter is "America's best heavyweight" boxing in the US is in BIG trouble.:yep

well who else is it? briggs and Toney are old and done anyhow, Eddie Chambers?

[brooklyn1550]

well who else is it? briggs and Toney are old and done anyhow, Eddie Chambers?

I'd say Calvin Brock

[Zakman]

well who else is it? briggs and Toney are old and done anyhow, Eddie Chambers?

Brock, for one, is clearly a better fighter. Even Chris Byrd, who is past his best, is better. Toney is far more skilled, and Briggs, although limited, at least has some skills.

Ruiz has NEVER really been one of the best US fighters. Without the excessive holding and other shenanagans - and King's influence to make it possible - he would have been lucky to win a regional belt.

Basically, Ruiz is Rob Calloway with connections - a limited regional fighter who was allowed to cheat his way to a level far beyond what he ever could have attained legitimately.

[seb melmoth]

The best american hw right now is Calvin Brock.

Lyakovich UD12 Ruiz

Valuev UD12 Lyakhovich

[seb melmoth]

Brock, for one, is clearly a better fighter. Even Chris Byrd, who is past his best, is better. Toney is far more skilled, and Briggs, although limited, at least has some skills.

Ruiz has NEVER really been one of the best US fighters. Without the excessive holding and other shenanagans - and King's influence to make it possible - he would have been lucky to win a regional belt.

Basically, Ruiz is Rob Calloway with connections - a limited regional fighter who was allowed to cheat his way to a level far beyond what he ever could have attained legitimately.


:yep :yep :yep

[Alcaldemb]

I had heard Chagaev was targetting Sergei, I guess SL doesn't want that fight. Valuev, especially the one that showed up against Chagaev, punishes and stops Liakhovich.