Any of you guys put YOUNG STRIBLING in the all-time top 10?

[timgentry]

Read "King of the Canebrakes" to hear his story. Great book. Great fighter!!!!!!!! Check him out on Boxrec:


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[My2Sense]

All time top 10?? No way! His record was largely padded (he was carefully guided my his father, who managed him), and he failed badly when he stepped up his competition.

[Ramon Rojo]

All time top 10?? No way! His record was largely padded (he was carefully guided my his father, who managed him), and he failed badly when he stepped up his competition.

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[Ramon Rojo]

No.

He didn't win any world titles if i recall right.

[timgentry]

All time top 10?? No way! His record was largely padded (he was carefully guided my his father, who managed him), and he failed badly when he stepped up his competition.


u call almost beating max schmelling at young's weight failing badly. imo he wasnt guided, he fought anybody anytime but i respect ur opinion.

[Brian123]

He was only 28 when he died (and a great human story for anyone that has not read up on him) he fought several bouts that ended "strangely" in losses for Stribling and surely won the light heavyweight title before being coruptly stripped (see link below).

All time top ten-no, deserving hall of famer and still underrated to this day-yes.

BTW he beat Tommy Loughran twice, the Max Schmeling bout was Ring's fight of year, he is second all-time in knockouts and in his last fight he beat the great Maxie Rosenbloom.

Again at only 28 a clean living (obsessed with training) family man, there is no telling what more he would have done in no doubt what would have been a long career.

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[TommyV]

He's got a few decent wins like Rosenbloom, Carnera, McTigue, Loughran, Levinsky etc, but he's miles away from being top 10 material.

[timgentry]

He was only 28 when he died (and a great human story for anyone that has not read up on him) he fought several bouts that ended "strangely" in losses for Stribling and surely won the light heavyweight title before being coruptly stripped (see link below).

All time top ten-no, deserving hall of famer and still underrated to this day-yes.

BTW he beat Tommy Loughran twice, the Max Schmeling bout was Ring's fight of year, he is second all-time in knockouts and in his last fight he beat the great Maxie Rosenbloom.

Again at only 28 a clean living (obsessed with training) family man, there is no telling what more he would have done in no doubt what would have been a long career.

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fair enough........good observation. I may be a little biased being from georgia.

[Russell]

He's got a few decent wins like Rosenbloom, Carnera, McTigue, Loughran, Levinsky etc, but he's miles away from being top 10 material.

Decent? :lol:

[TommyV]

Decent? :lol:

You know what I mean. :D

Typed it very quickly.

I often use words that are under-stating. I do recognise that they are very good wins.

[My2Sense]

u call almost beating max schmelling at young's weight failing badly.

"Almost beat" Schmeling?? Schmeling made him look amateurish for most of the fight, and then brutally KO'd him.

[Russell]

"Almost beat" Schmeling?? Schmeling made him look amateurish for most of the fight, and then brutally KO'd him.

And Schemeling did the exact same thing to Walker, who's a certifed great.

Schmeling was death to smaller fighters, great or not.

[mcvey]

And Schemeling did the exact same thing to Walker, who's a certifed great.

Schmeling was death to smaller fighters, great or not.
Stribling ,at 6' 1'' was the same height as Schmeling ,and only 2 1/2 lbs lighter.

[Loewe]

Well, he certainly is an atg and HoF fighter and he also is overlooked very often. Nice to see him getting some praise. How is the book on him? anybody read it?

[mcvey]

He was only 28 when he died (and a great human story for anyone that has not read up on him) he fought several bouts that ended "strangely" in losses for Stribling and surely won the light heavyweight title before being coruptly stripped (see link below).

All time top ten-no, deserving hall of famer and still underrated to this day-yes.

BTW he beat Tommy Loughran twice, the Max Schmeling bout was Ring's fight of year, he is second all-time in knockouts and in his last fight he beat the great Maxie Rosenbloom.

Again at only 28 a clean living (obsessed with training) family man, there is no telling what more he would have done in no doubt what would have been a long career.

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I would say at least 50 of his 128 kos are "dubious" ,to put it kindly.You will notice if you go through his record the regular reappearance of" Joe this "and "Joe that",Stribling kod his chauffeur in most of the tank towns outside the big cities,and also met old victims pretty frequently to pad out his records .While he did have some good wins he rarely kod a top fighter and was involved in several highly dubious results ,including the two dsq' with Carnera ,and the attempt to intimidate the referee Harry Ertle in the Mctigue fight,which Ertle scored for Mctigue,only to have both hands raised by an outside party ,to signal a draw ,which Ertle repudiated from the safety of his hotel room.

[mcvey]

u call almost beating max schmelling at young's weight failing badly. imo he wasnt guided, he fought anybody anytime but i respect ur opinion.
Both Schmeling and Stribling were 6'1'' and Schmeling was only 2 1/2 lbs the heavier man ,look it up.By the way the referee George Blake came from Georgia, so Stribling was given every chance in this fight.

[Senya13]

What I considered weird was what kind of weight limits did they use in the South to call 133-pounders featherweights. Or 156-pounders - welterweights.

[Jack Dempsey]

The biography 'King of the Canbrakes' is a great read if you can track it down

[My2Sense]

And Schemeling did the exact same thing to Walker, who's a certifed great.

No he didn't. Walker showed very good form in that fight, and held his own until running out of gas. He just didn't have the power all the way up at heavyweight to bother Schmeling.


Schmeling was death to smaller fighters, great or not.

How on earth was Stribling "smaller"?? They were both longtime light-heavyweights who moved up to cruiserweight.

[Brian123]

FWIW Max Schmeling was in his prime when he fought Stribling and it was close although Schmeling was the only one to stop him in 287 bouts!

Young Stribling was one of the most popular athletes in America at the time of his death.

[OLD FOGEY]

I would say at least 50 of his 128 kos are "dubious" ,to put it kindly.You will notice if you go through his record the regular reappearance of" Joe this "and "Joe that",Stribling kod his chauffeur in most of the tank towns outside the big cities,and also met old victims pretty frequently to pad out his records .While he did have some good wins he rarely kod a top fighter and was involved in several highly dubious results ,including the two dsq' with Carnera ,and the attempt to intimidate the referee Harry Ertle in the Mctigue fight,which Ertle scored for Mctigue,only to have both hands raised by an outside party ,to signal a draw ,which Ertle repudiated from the safety of his hotel room.

Yes. I have read these stories also. Apparently Stribling sent a partner ahead to Southern tank towns to win a couple of fixed fights while "playing the Yankee" and really rubbing the Southerners the wrong way. Southern boy Stribling would then show up to give the "Yankee" his comeuppance in what appeared to be a hotly contested fight. Strib was certainly a talented fighter, but much of his record smells at least as much as Carnera's.

[mcvey]

Some of the "opponents
from Stribling's last year as a boxer,when he had engaged in upwards of 250 fights.
Odell 4-3-0
Neron 9-32-5 x2
Corri 10-44-4 x2
Fay 0-0-0
Gorsline 2-2-0 x2
Packo[Joe] 15-29 -2 x2
Griselle 5-3-0
Fay 14 -16 - 2 x2
Stone 0-1-0 x2
Blackstock 0- 30
Harris0-1-0
Rowe1-0-0
Cook 0-1-0
King [Joe] 0-0-0
Rammell 0-2-0
Gubinella 0-0-0
Quite a few of Striblings "Foes " turn up in Carnera's resume.